HI Everone:
I'm in the middle of my first cycle (July) of IVF/ICSI. I am clueless while reading a lot of the acronyms everyone uses, but am slowly figuring them out. I have a 4 year old conceived naturally, but ttc 2 years with the second try! Everything looks fine on my end (for a 35 year old as my Dr. seems to always mention), but my husand has lower sperm count and bad morphology, only 2% normal.
So, I'm on my 4th day so shots (Follistim/Repronex), which I am a train wreck mixing up and injecting, good thing I didn't choose nursing school.
My abdomin is ultra puffy, which I suppose is to be expected......am I supposed to be drinking a lot of water? Or is this only for overstimulation?
I was so glad to find this board, it really helps just to hear about everything everyone is going through with me.
Paige
July cycle buddies
Hi Paige
Welcome to the site and to the July cycle buddies. I am on the 2ww (2 week wait) and going insane.
You say you are on day four of your injections so your body will be reacting in quite a few ways like getting a swollen belly and twitchy ovaries. You should drink as much fluid as you can during treatment as your body needs it. You should drink at least 2.5 litres of water a day anyway so during treatment it's really important to keep your body hydrated. Your ovaries will be producing extra follicles which take fluid from your body which needs to be replenished. I can't stress enough about drinking as I have been on the tail end of being VERY de-hydrated in the past and it's awful. Especially after Egg Collection (EC) as that's when OHSS (Ovarian Hyperstimulation) can be at it's worst.
You are at an advantage as you and your doctor knows you can conceive and carry a baby as you have a child already and as you are having ICSI there is a high chance of your eggs being fertilised too.
Keep it up and keep in touch. Good luck with it all.
Love Dagny xkx
PS Are there any more abbreviations you need to know??
Welcome to the site and to the July cycle buddies. I am on the 2ww (2 week wait) and going insane.
You say you are on day four of your injections so your body will be reacting in quite a few ways like getting a swollen belly and twitchy ovaries. You should drink as much fluid as you can during treatment as your body needs it. You should drink at least 2.5 litres of water a day anyway so during treatment it's really important to keep your body hydrated. Your ovaries will be producing extra follicles which take fluid from your body which needs to be replenished. I can't stress enough about drinking as I have been on the tail end of being VERY de-hydrated in the past and it's awful. Especially after Egg Collection (EC) as that's when OHSS (Ovarian Hyperstimulation) can be at it's worst.
You are at an advantage as you and your doctor knows you can conceive and carry a baby as you have a child already and as you are having ICSI there is a high chance of your eggs being fertilised too.
Keep it up and keep in touch. Good luck with it all.
Love Dagny xkx
PS Are there any more abbreviations you need to know??
Me 38 DH 40
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
1st 2nd & 4th IVF/ICSI -ve
3rd +ve DD Katelyn born @ 24wks & sadly died
5th +ve m/c 9wks
6th +ve Twins Sadly DD Leah stillborn @20wks and DS Kieran born @22wks but sadly died too
7th +ve - DD Chloë Mae born @38wks our precious miracle
reply to Dagny - Tracy
Dagny:
Thanks for your response. I do need help with the abbreviations! Can you tell me what these mean: sniffing, GA for EC, DH, DP?
Also, thanks so much for the water advise.....I just put my Pepsi One away and got a glass of water instead! I wonder why my Dr. didn't say anything?
Also, for anyone who is experiencing IVF failures....a good friend had 4 failed cyles in Chicagoland...her Dr recommended a clinic in Colorado (the best in the US supposedly) they have around 60% + success rate with fresh cycles, she got PG and has a 6 month old. She was in Colorado for over 2 weeks and a lot of families couldn't do that, but it worked out for her and she's going back the next time instead of trying the Chicago clinic again.
I honestly don't know how many cycles we'll try......I do feel very blessed that we were successful 5 yrs ago, I'm adopted...so maybe we'll go that route if nothing works out for us. I really hope July is a fertile month for all of us!
Tracy: I have a Weimeraner who is going to be 8 yrs old in September, she is awesome and I love her tremendously. Although they do have separation anxiety when they are alone...I highly recommend crate training as I can safely estimate that we've spent close to $10K replacing 6 panel wooden doors, carpet, trim, etc. We even have sedatives for the fourth of July. All of the damage has occured when we were gone.
Paige
Thanks for your response. I do need help with the abbreviations! Can you tell me what these mean: sniffing, GA for EC, DH, DP?
Also, thanks so much for the water advise.....I just put my Pepsi One away and got a glass of water instead! I wonder why my Dr. didn't say anything?
Also, for anyone who is experiencing IVF failures....a good friend had 4 failed cyles in Chicagoland...her Dr recommended a clinic in Colorado (the best in the US supposedly) they have around 60% + success rate with fresh cycles, she got PG and has a 6 month old. She was in Colorado for over 2 weeks and a lot of families couldn't do that, but it worked out for her and she's going back the next time instead of trying the Chicago clinic again.
I honestly don't know how many cycles we'll try......I do feel very blessed that we were successful 5 yrs ago, I'm adopted...so maybe we'll go that route if nothing works out for us. I really hope July is a fertile month for all of us!
Tracy: I have a Weimeraner who is going to be 8 yrs old in September, she is awesome and I love her tremendously. Although they do have separation anxiety when they are alone...I highly recommend crate training as I can safely estimate that we've spent close to $10K replacing 6 panel wooden doors, carpet, trim, etc. We even have sedatives for the fourth of July. All of the damage has occured when we were gone.
Paige
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sophie-jane
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Hello all,
I am joining your thread if I may. My home computer has been down for well over a month so have logged on now from work computer. I was previously signed is as Jane, and had a negative ivf cycle in March.
I am currently doing a fet. My four embryos have been thawed today. So far so good - 3 have survived (one 5 cell, one four cell and one three cell). I think that is good but advice welcome.
I just hope they continue dividing over night and if so et is tommorow. Oh my god I am back feeling excited but so b****y nervous as well.
I want to be positive as PMA must be good for welcoming the embies but also don't want to hit rock bottom like I did after my last -ive.
So fingers crossed for et tommorow. I have been alot more relaxed this time - keep n forgetting to drink my 2 litres of water and litre of milk.
I am on steroids this time as my NK cells were elevated .. I am hoping that this is going to mean more chance of implantation.
I have transferred to the Lister for this fet. Not sure I like the Lister ... it feels like I am on a conveyor belt. they are always so rsuhed. I don't even know the nurses names. I was at Bournemouth for previous go and really liked the nurses there. i got to know them, but at least the Lister are more flexible with dates and I have had a natural fet rather than using drugs.
So if all goes well tommorow I will be on here daily for support with 2ww.
As I am work I haven't had a chance to look through whole thread ... is anyone else on 2ww (I'm aware Dagny is ... good luck to you.. I am waiting for that positive result).
From Sophie-Jane
I am joining your thread if I may. My home computer has been down for well over a month so have logged on now from work computer. I was previously signed is as Jane, and had a negative ivf cycle in March.
I am currently doing a fet. My four embryos have been thawed today. So far so good - 3 have survived (one 5 cell, one four cell and one three cell). I think that is good but advice welcome.
I just hope they continue dividing over night and if so et is tommorow. Oh my god I am back feeling excited but so b****y nervous as well.
I want to be positive as PMA must be good for welcoming the embies but also don't want to hit rock bottom like I did after my last -ive.
So fingers crossed for et tommorow. I have been alot more relaxed this time - keep n forgetting to drink my 2 litres of water and litre of milk.
I am on steroids this time as my NK cells were elevated .. I am hoping that this is going to mean more chance of implantation.
I have transferred to the Lister for this fet. Not sure I like the Lister ... it feels like I am on a conveyor belt. they are always so rsuhed. I don't even know the nurses names. I was at Bournemouth for previous go and really liked the nurses there. i got to know them, but at least the Lister are more flexible with dates and I have had a natural fet rather than using drugs.
So if all goes well tommorow I will be on here daily for support with 2ww.
As I am work I haven't had a chance to look through whole thread ... is anyone else on 2ww (I'm aware Dagny is ... good luck to you.. I am waiting for that positive result).
From Sophie-Jane
Sophie-Jane,
Good luck with FET!! I hope to do my first FET next month. I wasn't aware that not all of the embryos necessarily make it through freezing and thawing. I'm glad yours seem to be doing well!
Paige,
Welcome - I've gotten so much help in the few weeks I've been on here. These ladies are so amazing and inspiring! And good luck on your cycle!
In the US they never told me anything about drinking lots of water during IVF, but it makes sense to me. They don't tell us anything here about how to take care of ourselves. I've learned a lot from reading what people in the UK post about what to do and not do at different stages.
alicia
Good luck with FET!! I hope to do my first FET next month. I wasn't aware that not all of the embryos necessarily make it through freezing and thawing. I'm glad yours seem to be doing well!
Paige,
Welcome - I've gotten so much help in the few weeks I've been on here. These ladies are so amazing and inspiring! And good luck on your cycle!
In the US they never told me anything about drinking lots of water during IVF, but it makes sense to me. They don't tell us anything here about how to take care of ourselves. I've learned a lot from reading what people in the UK post about what to do and not do at different stages.
alicia
TTC 2.5 years - Me 38 no tubes; DH 32
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
Hi Sophie-Jane.....I'm so happy to see you're back and raring to go. We cycled together at the beginning of the year. ET tomorrow? that's so exciting, the 3 cells sound good to me, I've never had more than a 4-cell. Try to get some sleep tonight and I'll be thinking of you tomorrow. What time is ET? Maybe the Lister feel conveyor-beltish because they're so slick and professional????? although I agree it's the personal touch that helps sometimes too. I'll be watching you closely 
Paige, Dagny might be about to reply or if she's going quietly insane on the 2ww - maybe not! GA = general anaesthetic (vs. sedation which other clinics do), DH/DF/DP = Darling Husband/Fiance/Partner - or as Dagny said a little while ago, or Dickhead depending on your mood!!
Dagny - sorry to see there might be no frosties - that seems incredible given your original 40 follies. As you said yourself, sad though that is, you've got two already doing their thing (did I see Tracey S wishing twins on you??). Glad to see last night was a little better re. pain.
Good luck all other Julybies... Staci - what stage are you at now?
love
Debra.
Paige, Dagny might be about to reply or if she's going quietly insane on the 2ww - maybe not! GA = general anaesthetic (vs. sedation which other clinics do), DH/DF/DP = Darling Husband/Fiance/Partner - or as Dagny said a little while ago, or Dickhead depending on your mood!!
Dagny - sorry to see there might be no frosties - that seems incredible given your original 40 follies. As you said yourself, sad though that is, you've got two already doing their thing (did I see Tracey S wishing twins on you??). Glad to see last night was a little better re. pain.
Good luck all other Julybies... Staci - what stage are you at now?
love
Debra.
Me: 44, DH: 31
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Hiya girlies
GOSH I can't keep up with you all - how on earth Tracey and Dagny keep up I do not know
Hope this finds you all well - we are all getting very cloe now!
Well, I shall be going to hospital tomorrow for ET (providing any of my 4 embies survive the thaw) - I have to wait for the dreaded call>........
Sohpie-Jane - I am also at the Lister, Natural FET and starting steroids - I will be a day behind you hun!!!!!
Love to all
Big hugs
Nickie
GOSH I can't keep up with you all - how on earth Tracey and Dagny keep up I do not know
Hope this finds you all well - we are all getting very cloe now!
Well, I shall be going to hospital tomorrow for ET (providing any of my 4 embies survive the thaw) - I have to wait for the dreaded call>........
Sohpie-Jane - I am also at the Lister, Natural FET and starting steroids - I will be a day behind you hun!!!!!
Love to all
Big hugs
Nickie
1st Cycle ICSI - Cancelled before E/R due to poor response
2nd Cycle ICSI - April 2004 Negative
3rd Cycle FET - July 2004 - Negative
4th Cycle ICSI - Nov 2004 - BFP (Oh my GOD)
2nd Cycle ICSI - April 2004 Negative
3rd Cycle FET - July 2004 - Negative
4th Cycle ICSI - Nov 2004 - BFP (Oh my GOD)
Ultra Sound
Ok...I had my first ultrasound after starting the injections. After 4 injections I have 8 follicles over 9mm, and some 8-9mm. They are talking about putting me on Antagon already to prohibit ovulation. Is this a normal number of follices for this time-frame? How do you know what is normal, and if you have a good chance? Will more contiue to grow if I'm injecting Antagon? I'm totally new to this and seemingly don't have a benchmark to compare my statistics with. Can anyone help?
Also, found myself driving home from dinner last night with my pants unbuttoned.....lots of puffiness in the abdomin!
Paige
Also, found myself driving home from dinner last night with my pants unbuttoned.....lots of puffiness in the abdomin!
Paige
I am going to butt in too. have posted a 2ww thread then saw this one.
I had my ET on Wednesday have been in a lot of pain,thought I might OHSS again but nothing yet (Thank God!!!) I had a sedation this time always had general in the past.Can't see much difference myself.Although I have felt very sleepy this time and have been in bed for most of the week.I test on the 28th July
Good luck to everyone
Jane
xxxx
I had my ET on Wednesday have been in a lot of pain,thought I might OHSS again but nothing yet (Thank God!!!) I had a sedation this time always had general in the past.Can't see much difference myself.Although I have felt very sleepy this time and have been in bed for most of the week.I test on the 28th July
Good luck to everyone
Jane
xxxx
OOOOOOOOO how exciting - I do like to see a busy board - sorry been asleep so still a bit foggy but only got 2 hours last night.
Debra - yep did wish twins on Dagny - she would love them and nothing makes up for the death of a baby but would love to see DAgny have twinnies and amazing how many have gone on to be pg with twins after losing a baby later on in pg!
Dagny - very proud of you - all this good advice. I know today is a tough day in the cycle for you so hope you are visualising implantation and trying to keep occupied.
Angela - you are doing really well - keep it up. i know what you mean about pg women and how easy some get it. The way I look at it is that some people in life have a silver spoon in their mouth and get everything but does not always make them happy does it? Some people have a normal life and get things they want without too much trouble. Some like my brother fall in shit and come out smelling of roses. Some like me and us have to battle for everything they want. some people have nothing. There is not a day goes by when I don't feel blessed for being pg with twins - not one day and not a day goes by when I don't think of you all still going thro tmt. I still feel aggrieved that my boy Oliver was stolen from under me and that will never change and have the serious hump I had an ectopic and 5 tmts to get pg with these twins. This has made me who I am and the people I have met thro tmt have touched my life and will always do so............ I would never have the strength to carry on some situations I reckon (though many say I was strong anyway - maybe it is putting it to the test!) WE can't make the world a fair place and one day when you are all pg I am sure you will all look back like me and think I wish I hadn't have had to go through all that stuff to get pg in the first place but how blessed do I feel and how much will you appreciate any baby or babies you have - much more because you had to fight tooth and nail............. Does this make sense. When I was going thro tmt I had to shut myself away from pg women and babies as all to hard though thrust in my face with two young step children. Hang in there - you can do it.
Janeya - good luck on the 2ww - tired - good sign - I was cream crackered on my 2ww - and still keep drinking loads of water - well I always add cordial to it and if you can milk but I added milkshake stuff.
Paige - antegon - not sure of that drug and there is no normal in how we respond in the manufacturing of follicles I am afraid. By your stage I had normally produced around 27 - albeit mainly smaller ones and Dagny produces even more but then we are always overstimulation candidates! What I reckon they are doing is trying to get those you have produced to keep maturing as any others will be small and won't catch up. You won't produce many more on antegon but might just squeeze a couple out as your body has the hcg in - good luck. My Weimaraner is fine and not at al destructive - except the pond plants in the garden but hey ho can't be perfect. She has never chewed rugs or furnture etc and when I go out and she is left then she moans and sits in her cage which is left unlocked inside during the day. They are lovely if not too intelligent at times and do the most frustrating thing...
Nickie - course one or more will survive the thaw - you can do it. Good luck and these FET's do work you know!
Alicia - they do give us general advice over here but varies as to how much. Always drink loads on your 2ww as well as your stim time - works wonders and the body prefers to be well hydrated. Good luck
Sophie Jane - natural FET - go for it - I am 36wks pg today with twins via that route and your embies sound fab so a great start - good luck.
Take care all of you and hope not left anyone out
Love
Tracey
xxx
Debra - yep did wish twins on Dagny - she would love them and nothing makes up for the death of a baby but would love to see DAgny have twinnies and amazing how many have gone on to be pg with twins after losing a baby later on in pg!
Dagny - very proud of you - all this good advice. I know today is a tough day in the cycle for you so hope you are visualising implantation and trying to keep occupied.
Angela - you are doing really well - keep it up. i know what you mean about pg women and how easy some get it. The way I look at it is that some people in life have a silver spoon in their mouth and get everything but does not always make them happy does it? Some people have a normal life and get things they want without too much trouble. Some like my brother fall in shit and come out smelling of roses. Some like me and us have to battle for everything they want. some people have nothing. There is not a day goes by when I don't feel blessed for being pg with twins - not one day and not a day goes by when I don't think of you all still going thro tmt. I still feel aggrieved that my boy Oliver was stolen from under me and that will never change and have the serious hump I had an ectopic and 5 tmts to get pg with these twins. This has made me who I am and the people I have met thro tmt have touched my life and will always do so............ I would never have the strength to carry on some situations I reckon (though many say I was strong anyway - maybe it is putting it to the test!) WE can't make the world a fair place and one day when you are all pg I am sure you will all look back like me and think I wish I hadn't have had to go through all that stuff to get pg in the first place but how blessed do I feel and how much will you appreciate any baby or babies you have - much more because you had to fight tooth and nail............. Does this make sense. When I was going thro tmt I had to shut myself away from pg women and babies as all to hard though thrust in my face with two young step children. Hang in there - you can do it.
Janeya - good luck on the 2ww - tired - good sign - I was cream crackered on my 2ww - and still keep drinking loads of water - well I always add cordial to it and if you can milk but I added milkshake stuff.
Paige - antegon - not sure of that drug and there is no normal in how we respond in the manufacturing of follicles I am afraid. By your stage I had normally produced around 27 - albeit mainly smaller ones and Dagny produces even more but then we are always overstimulation candidates! What I reckon they are doing is trying to get those you have produced to keep maturing as any others will be small and won't catch up. You won't produce many more on antegon but might just squeeze a couple out as your body has the hcg in - good luck. My Weimaraner is fine and not at al destructive - except the pond plants in the garden but hey ho can't be perfect. She has never chewed rugs or furnture etc and when I go out and she is left then she moans and sits in her cage which is left unlocked inside during the day. They are lovely if not too intelligent at times and do the most frustrating thing...
Nickie - course one or more will survive the thaw - you can do it. Good luck and these FET's do work you know!
Alicia - they do give us general advice over here but varies as to how much. Always drink loads on your 2ww as well as your stim time - works wonders and the body prefers to be well hydrated. Good luck
Sophie Jane - natural FET - go for it - I am 36wks pg today with twins via that route and your embies sound fab so a great start - good luck.
Take care all of you and hope not left anyone out
Love
Tracey
xxx
ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
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sophie-jane
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- Joined: Thu Jul 15, 2004 3:46 pm
Hi all,
sitting on sofa with my works laptop. Had et at 12 today and back home in cloudy Bournemouth. I'm not that impressed with my embies. Four were thawed on Thursday. Out of three that survived the thaw only two continued to divide over night. One went from 4 cell to 6 cell so thats OK. The 3 cell only moved to a four cell. I've read that this is not very good that it should be between 6-8 cell, but they still put it back. So feeling a bit negative ... then feel guilty about feeling negative ... vicious cycle. Plus dp has p****ed off down the pub with his mate ..... My tummy is starting to rumble but I really don't think I should be cooking dinner.
Anyway for you other fet's ...... I have a really irregular cycle but still decided to go for a natural cycle. On day 17 my folli was 20mm which is good, and the uterus lining (i think its the uterus) was thickening nicely too. I then had ovitrelle to time ovulation. I'm taking the steroids and I'm also starting the projesterone pessaries today. I didn't think I needed to take these and really didn't get round to asking the dr why I had to take them.
Feeling all sorts of twinges already.....
I have read the 8 pages of this thread.
Angela - have you starting the injecting yet. I actually enjoyed the injecting after a while during Ist cycle. DP was meant to do it but on the first night he got drunk so I wouldn't let him anywhere near me with the needle (mmm my dp is sounding a bit like a alcoholic b***tard).
Dagny - when is test date
NIcky - how have the embies thawed today? Good luck and hope they come out strong for et tomorrow.
Staci - have you started fet cycle yet?
Julie - hope sniffing is going ok, and have you started injecting yet.
How are all those hormones. I cried daily when I was sniffing, and once I started I just couldn't stop. At times I was ready to pack it all in, but here I am again having another go.
Macaroni - you must be near et. How are those follies.
Paige- I can't remember now ehther it was you asking about follie sizes. You seem to be doing OK. I think I had 10 follies at first scan and then ended up with 16 eggs at ec.
Janeya - are you on 2ww? How's it going??
Carise, Sand, Jen, Donna, DeeDee, Kitty, Janem, Theresa - how are you all. Really sorry if I've missed people ... there are so many of us.
dp still not home so I'm off to order a take away. Shouldn't dp's be cuddling you after et and waiting on you hand and foot. Humph.
Sophie-Jane
sitting on sofa with my works laptop. Had et at 12 today and back home in cloudy Bournemouth. I'm not that impressed with my embies. Four were thawed on Thursday. Out of three that survived the thaw only two continued to divide over night. One went from 4 cell to 6 cell so thats OK. The 3 cell only moved to a four cell. I've read that this is not very good that it should be between 6-8 cell, but they still put it back. So feeling a bit negative ... then feel guilty about feeling negative ... vicious cycle. Plus dp has p****ed off down the pub with his mate ..... My tummy is starting to rumble but I really don't think I should be cooking dinner.
Anyway for you other fet's ...... I have a really irregular cycle but still decided to go for a natural cycle. On day 17 my folli was 20mm which is good, and the uterus lining (i think its the uterus) was thickening nicely too. I then had ovitrelle to time ovulation. I'm taking the steroids and I'm also starting the projesterone pessaries today. I didn't think I needed to take these and really didn't get round to asking the dr why I had to take them.
Feeling all sorts of twinges already.....
I have read the 8 pages of this thread.
Angela - have you starting the injecting yet. I actually enjoyed the injecting after a while during Ist cycle. DP was meant to do it but on the first night he got drunk so I wouldn't let him anywhere near me with the needle (mmm my dp is sounding a bit like a alcoholic b***tard).
Dagny - when is test date
NIcky - how have the embies thawed today? Good luck and hope they come out strong for et tomorrow.
Staci - have you started fet cycle yet?
Julie - hope sniffing is going ok, and have you started injecting yet.
How are all those hormones. I cried daily when I was sniffing, and once I started I just couldn't stop. At times I was ready to pack it all in, but here I am again having another go.
Macaroni - you must be near et. How are those follies.
Paige- I can't remember now ehther it was you asking about follie sizes. You seem to be doing OK. I think I had 10 follies at first scan and then ended up with 16 eggs at ec.
Janeya - are you on 2ww? How's it going??
Carise, Sand, Jen, Donna, DeeDee, Kitty, Janem, Theresa - how are you all. Really sorry if I've missed people ... there are so many of us.
dp still not home so I'm off to order a take away. Shouldn't dp's be cuddling you after et and waiting on you hand and foot. Humph.
Sophie-Jane
Sophie-Jane
Don't know anything about my embies - told to wait for a hpone call Saturday morning and then head up there if any have survived ...........!! Do you think I should have phoned today then??
Nickie
Don't know anything about my embies - told to wait for a hpone call Saturday morning and then head up there if any have survived ...........!! Do you think I should have phoned today then??
Nickie
1st Cycle ICSI - Cancelled before E/R due to poor response
2nd Cycle ICSI - April 2004 Negative
3rd Cycle FET - July 2004 - Negative
4th Cycle ICSI - Nov 2004 - BFP (Oh my GOD)
2nd Cycle ICSI - April 2004 Negative
3rd Cycle FET - July 2004 - Negative
4th Cycle ICSI - Nov 2004 - BFP (Oh my GOD)
Nickie...I'm sure if there was any info available before tomorrow, they'd let you know. I know several people on the board have had to wait until the morning of ET before being told if any have made it. Sometimes even whilst on their way....I guess you've got to wait another night and then wait to hear. I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.
Paige...Tracey S said it all (she often does, she's a very wise, very pregnant woman!)...there is no 'normal' on any of the drugs nor on any programme. Those of us who've been through it a couple of times often have different physical and emotional reactions, different responses to the drugs, a varied number of follicles and at different sizes. You can only follow your clinic's advice on what they're expecting to see for you. I don't know that particular drug regime so can't help with annecdotes from other posters. A swollen abdomen/feeling bloated isn't uncommon at all. Sudden twinges etc. all go with the tmt, it's often scary and most of us are convinced at one stage or another that all is lost...keep posting on the board and people will share as much as they can.
Sophie-Jane...be kind to yourself and new embies
Save your ire for DH....I think he could have organised something for your dinner even if it was a take-away. Nice of him to go to the pub though 
- NOT!
Don't get too pissed off though, you want to stay nice and calm and relaxed. A few beers aren't worth getting worked up over. Have a quiet evening, just you and the embies...being alone actually means you can put your feet up and totally chill. Ignore him.
All other July Buddies...have a good weekend.
love
Debra.
Paige...Tracey S said it all (she often does, she's a very wise, very pregnant woman!)...there is no 'normal' on any of the drugs nor on any programme. Those of us who've been through it a couple of times often have different physical and emotional reactions, different responses to the drugs, a varied number of follicles and at different sizes. You can only follow your clinic's advice on what they're expecting to see for you. I don't know that particular drug regime so can't help with annecdotes from other posters. A swollen abdomen/feeling bloated isn't uncommon at all. Sudden twinges etc. all go with the tmt, it's often scary and most of us are convinced at one stage or another that all is lost...keep posting on the board and people will share as much as they can.
Sophie-Jane...be kind to yourself and new embies
Save your ire for DH....I think he could have organised something for your dinner even if it was a take-away. Nice of him to go to the pub though - NOT! Don't get too pissed off though, you want to stay nice and calm and relaxed. A few beers aren't worth getting worked up over. Have a quiet evening, just you and the embies...being alone actually means you can put your feet up and totally chill. Ignore him.
All other July Buddies...have a good weekend.
love
Debra.
Sophie Jane,
I can sympathize with you re. the DH situation (hmm..what was that other interpretation of what "DH" can stand for at various points of time?!). My DH didn't wait on me after my ET either. He had scraped his eye outside doing yardwork about a week before my ET and from that point it was like he needed all the attention and sympathy from me. I had to get dinner out for both of us after EC (even though I could barely walk) and after ET or I would have starved. I kept doing all of the housework because, otherwise, it wouldn't have gotten done. Meanwhile, of course, I was thinking of all the women on here whose DH's wait on them hand and foot after ET and wondering what was wrong with mine?! I had also asked him to refrain from drinking since I couldn't but he continued to have beer in front of me. Don't get me wrong. I love him more than anything and 99% of the time he is wonderful. Early on in the treatment, he was very attentive regarding the shots and sensitive to how I was feeling. I think that, by the time of EC though, he had just gotten sick of giving me attention so, unfortunately, he had to be at his bad 1% during one of the times when I needed him the most! I guess not everyone is perfect. At any rate, like Debra said, just try to forget about his thoughtlessness for the moment and relax!
Dagny,
How many movies have you watched so far? Glad to hear you are feeling at least a bit better.
Nickie,
My clinic is going to thaw the embies out the night before my transfer and won't advise me what happened until I get in there so I know how you feel. I'm going to be terrified that none will have made it but I think it is rare that such a thing happens. My clinic told me they have about a 65% survival rate after thawing. Best of luck for tomorrow!
Jane,
Welcome! This board will really help you get through the 2 ww.
Sorry to all those I have missed. DH and I were out of town for a few days so I am trying to catch up ... amidst cleaning the house like mad as my in laws are coming to visit tomorrow!
Staci
I can sympathize with you re. the DH situation (hmm..what was that other interpretation of what "DH" can stand for at various points of time?!). My DH didn't wait on me after my ET either. He had scraped his eye outside doing yardwork about a week before my ET and from that point it was like he needed all the attention and sympathy from me. I had to get dinner out for both of us after EC (even though I could barely walk) and after ET or I would have starved. I kept doing all of the housework because, otherwise, it wouldn't have gotten done. Meanwhile, of course, I was thinking of all the women on here whose DH's wait on them hand and foot after ET and wondering what was wrong with mine?! I had also asked him to refrain from drinking since I couldn't but he continued to have beer in front of me. Don't get me wrong. I love him more than anything and 99% of the time he is wonderful. Early on in the treatment, he was very attentive regarding the shots and sensitive to how I was feeling. I think that, by the time of EC though, he had just gotten sick of giving me attention so, unfortunately, he had to be at his bad 1% during one of the times when I needed him the most! I guess not everyone is perfect. At any rate, like Debra said, just try to forget about his thoughtlessness for the moment and relax!
Dagny,
How many movies have you watched so far? Glad to hear you are feeling at least a bit better.
Nickie,
My clinic is going to thaw the embies out the night before my transfer and won't advise me what happened until I get in there so I know how you feel. I'm going to be terrified that none will have made it but I think it is rare that such a thing happens. My clinic told me they have about a 65% survival rate after thawing. Best of luck for tomorrow!
Jane,
Welcome! This board will really help you get through the 2 ww.
Sorry to all those I have missed. DH and I were out of town for a few days so I am trying to catch up ... amidst cleaning the house like mad as my in laws are coming to visit tomorrow!
Staci
I can sympathise with you re: DH/DP as mine went to london for a night out to an awards ceremony on the afternoon of ET which was Wednesday and on Friday he has gone for a lads weekend away to Kent (we live in Dorset) and we also have a new puppy that gets up at 5.30am which means I have to sort him out and take him for walks.Seeing as this is our 5th and final go at IVF I also think he sould have been more supportive to my needs but I can guarentee he will certainly make up for it when he comes home.
Still feeling tierd on my 2WW test on the 28th July have convinced myself that it hasn't worked already.On decaff tea and coffee maybe thats why I feel tierd? I read before about the constant knicker checking on the 2WW and I had to chuckle to myself as that is so true and can imagine us all checking our knickers whenever we can!!!!!!
Good Luck to all
Jane
xxxx
Still feeling tierd on my 2WW test on the 28th July have convinced myself that it hasn't worked already.On decaff tea and coffee maybe thats why I feel tierd? I read before about the constant knicker checking on the 2WW and I had to chuckle to myself as that is so true and can imagine us all checking our knickers whenever we can!!!!!!
Good Luck to all
Jane
xxxx