Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

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Ladies - quick question and mild panic. I've kustbrealised for the last 5 days I've been takingbtwicenthe amount of down regulator. I've left a message for the clinic but has anyone ever heard how much of a problem this could be?

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Gina-Happy Birthday
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Ninde-I just read your post. I am not familiar with this but did your RE call you back?

Sunshine-sorry your not feeling well. Thanks you for your well wishes. I'm glad your getting so close now. Maynis tight around tge corner.

Bodie-glad to hear you are doung so well.

Leora-how are you doing? Any news in Rosie. Keeping her in my prayers.

Blue-how are you doing? Keeping you in my prayers.

Kerpupples-I'm glad your doing well. Yes, we will be doing the Nuchal measurements tomorrow. A bit nervous buy I guess that is normal.

Akdelp-how are you? Please remind me, when is your u/s?

Kynlee-congrats on ypur transfer. I can't wait to hear about your BFP!!!

Globetrotter-welcome. I will add you to the board tomorrow. Are you a basketball fan? Just asking because of of your sig name?
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Hi Maria, no it will be the morning. Feeling a little bit sick

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Hi Maria, no it will be the morning. Feeling a little bit sick

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What happens after a 3 Day and a 5 Day Transfer :D

3-DAY TRANSFER:
1dpt ..embryo growing and developing
2dpt... Embryo is now a blastocyst
3dpt....Blastocyst hatches out of shell on this day
4dpt.. Blastocyst attaches to a site on the uterine
5dpt.. Implantation begins,as the blastocyst begins to bury in the lining
6dpt.. Implantation process continues and morula buries deeper in the lining
7dpt.. Morula is completely inmplanted in the lining and has placentaAnatomy of a normal placenta
8dpt...Placenta Anatomy of a normal placenta
9dpt...More HCG is produced as fetus develops
10dpt...More HCG is produced as fetus develops
11dpt...HCG levels are high enough to be immediately detected w/ HPT

5-DAY TRANSFER:
-1dpt ..embryo is growing and developing
0dpt... Embryo is now a blastocyst
1dpt....Blastocyst hatches out of shell on this day
2dpt.. Blastocyst attaches to a site on the uterine lining
3dpt.. Implantation begins,as the blastocyst begins to bury in the lining
4dpt.. Implantation process continues and morula buries deeper in the lining
5dpt.. Morula is completely inmplanted in the lining and has placenta cells &
fetal cells.
6dpt...Placenta cells begin to secret HCG in the blood
7dpt...More HCG is produced as fetus develops
8dpt...More HCG is produced as fetus develops
9dpt...HCG levels are now high enough to be immediately detected w/ HPT

Kynlee- I'll continue praying for your babies and folllowing your progress every step of the way. :D

Blue- Great question, I have no idea but know they keep mom in ICU until she and baby are stabilized. :D

Ninde- I hope you are able to contact your doctor in the morning to find out, the protocal the RE has you on is something I'm unfortunately not familar with, are you having an allergic reaction? but please keep us all posted and I'll keep praying. :D

AFM: Researched adoption all afternoon, found a nearby agency that has a good rating, but read that they charge $300 just for the first consultation visit. :shock: Dh feels we should wait as they probably won't take us serious when they find out we are about to begin IVF treatment. He thinks I'll have my hands full with upcoming appointments that I should focus on one thing at a time. Dh has so much faith in this IVF program that maybe I should try to give it a chance.
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Maria- Thank you :) How are you feeling lately? Glad to hear the bleeding is very minimal.
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Gina-your very welcome. I hope you enjoy your special day. I am feeling a bit better. Thank you for asking. We have our 12 week u/s tomorrow. Starting to get a bit nervous about all of the upcoming testing. I pray that all the tests cone back ok. Being a nurse sometimes works against me as I tend to worry more because I am more aware of medical issues. Sometimes bring oblivious us nit such a bad thing. I was completely oblivious with my son. I never worried about the things I worry about now. I'll keep you all posted on the u/s tomorrow. Xoxo...
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FET 5/11 BFN
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Gina- here in Israel, there is mandatory army service and most people do reserve duty for the rest of their adult lives. Reserve duty time is paid time off of work, and the paperwork is usually pretty simple. You get a letter in the mail with the dates the army needs you and you give it to work. Well.... we have a friend who works for the army as a civilian (he's a military historian in the archives). When he gets called for reserve duty, he has such a run-around to file his paperwork -- when the army knows he has reserve duty! Also, the army pays your salary while in reserves - and he has to submit a million pieces of paperwork to get the ARMY to pay his employer... THE ARMY. :D

Why does your husband say this other clinic isn't "safe"? btw - we do ICSI for MFI. No idea about the age thing. HAPPY BIRTHDAY!

Kerri - wow, March 15 feels really far away -- but only 9 more days! I'm waiting for next week too, hoping to get a period (well - I should since I'm taking Provera now!) How far along will you be then?

Christy - I'm sorry AF is sucking - she usually does! I hope your last cycle before starting IVF is your lucky one and you don't need to do the IVF, but I know that's unlikely at this point. But it's exciting to be close to starting, no? I've heard that a lot of adoption agencies want you to be 100% done with fertility treatments, but I don't know. Can't you ask them? Call and say you want a consultation but are about to start IVF and see what they suggest? I hate that they want you to be done... part of it is that you need to have a back-up plan in case you get a BFN. Why don't they understand that?

Kynlee - going crazy already? And only 1dpt? :D Try to relax -- it'll be a long wait! When is your beta? Will you POAS?

Nicole (blue) - I know what you mean about expecting a miscarriage, but it's still hard because you hold out that hope until the very end. In a way, though, I'm glad you got AF -- at least you know it's over. Are you going to try again? Does your doctor have any advice after 2 m/c now?

Happy Anniversary! How many years? Remind me what you do - you have a graduate student working with you?

Maria - 12 weeks is a great milestone. I hope your u/s today goes great!

Amy (kerpupples) - considering how you are practically in your 2nd trimester -- I"ll say you are a crasher here, but always welcome! :D I'm terrified to go off my meds. I did once, a long time ago, with disastrous results. I was told that my mental health was more important than any withdrawal the babies would go through. So sorry that your DH started drinking again, but glad he's stopping again. I'm sure that's a hard journey. <<hugs>> Sleeping on your back at this point should be fine. I was told about 16 wks to try to stop, but there are very few comfortable positions when you get bigger! The risk of sleeping on your back is that your uterus could cut off blood supply to your legs. Try not to worry about it! Don't spend extended periods of time lying on your back, but if you wake up on your back, no worries!

Patricia - I hope your clinic got back to you with an answer! Ugh - that kind of thing is soooo stressful!

about Rosie -- I don't have any updates. When my water broke at 22 wks, I was told there was no way my body would prevent labor long enough to make it to viability, and I was at risk for an infection that risked my uterus and my life. We were pressured into inducing labor immediately, which we did on the advice of a million doctors. Only after, did I find an online community of women who continued their pregnancies after pPROM (preterm premature rupture of membranes). There is no need to rush into inducing if the woman wants to try to continue. The main concerns are (1) labor (2) infections and (3) baby doesn't develop properly without amniotic fluid. They'll be keeping Rosie on strict strict bedrest (so no more fluid leaks out) and on IV antibiotics. If she goes into labor or develops an infection, it'll be over and she'll need to deliver. Her baby boy might not develop properly (especially his lungs) because of a lack of fluid (we'll see if he can re-build at least some fluid), but baby girl should develop properly in her own amniotic sac. But at 19w2d - Rosie still has a long time until viability - and even though, 24 weekers have huge risks. Hopefully, she'll make it all the way to 30 or more weeks, but it's really unlikely.

and yes, this brings up soooo many traumatic memories for me.

AFM -- well, day 2 of Provera. 5 more days, and then hopefully getting my period 4-5 days after stopping.

David is still insisting that we take a break from cycling. He says the vacation made him realize that we are so unhappy and broken, because it showed such a contrast with how we used to be (able to have fun and enjoy life - like we used to do and how we were on vacation) and how we are now. I keep saying that I agree -- and we need to work on enjoying life more. I'm suggesting lots of couple-fun activities -- art classes, dance classes, book clubs, something like that. He's thinking about it. He says that he doesn't think we are in a good place enough to become parents, so he doesn't want to try to get pregnant until we are in a better place. I keep trying to explain that waiting just makes things worse. We'll see.... I can NOT imagine not cycling now. In a way, I've been waiting since August--- we never thought our FET would work - we were just 'getting that out of the way' so we could do fresh. I had to wait 3 months post C section for the FET, and that was in November. I just want to start again ASAP.
8 IVF+6 FET=6 BFN+8 BFP =

-b/g twins 22w (12.09)
-mc 10w (9.10)
-Micha (7.19-24.11) & Asaf (7.19-28.11) born at 24w
-mc 5wk (2.12)
-no HB at 18w (10.12)
-BO (4.13)-
-mc 6wk (9.13)

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Leora- Thank you. I did enjoy my day a lot :) DH was referring to the country and being safe for Americans at this time, but I think the clinic just happens to have the name of the country he was thinking about. There are certain ones we aren't allowed to go to. The price was decent but the hotel stay is about $1,000 for a week. No thanks! lol. I'll just go for this local one instead. Getting all my hormone levels checked tomorrow, so we can maybe start this process and at least talk to the RE near by.

AFM-Right now we are dealing with a rude Dentist. Apparently there is ONE Doctor here that will put you under, and she does this once a month! We feel he will have too much anxiety just sitting there letting them do that with just a local. He was already stressed and upset enough with them trying over and over for the x-rays. We made an appointment with her but told her we may change it and go with someone that can put him under, so to go ahead and send a referral anyway. Well.....we called this other clinic to see if they got the referral and they didn't. So this morning my husband calls to ask and she says she did (lie) and she also kept telling my husband that we didn't care about him by not letting her do a local. Oh my husband was NOT happy! She said it could go to his brain and die. Yes bad teeth can cause that but we need to make sure he is okay also. Wow! So he made a complaint that goes to the main commander and he will address it and response to every email and by phone if you want. It was really unprofessional and especially not being a pediatric Dentist.

So NOW she sent the referral for this Dentist that REALLY is for just kids. They will do X-rays there. They can do Nitrous Oxide there and I explained what it does.....basically relax you but you are still awake unless he's relaxed enough and falls to sleep which I'm doubting. He can give that a go if he wants unless the wait isn't long to put him under. I told him if he felt pain to just raise his hand or something so they know. I just want this to be a painless and anxiety free visit! I just don't know how recovery will be in time for Saturday going to Paris.

I told him to bring his Ipod and he won't have to hear anything. I told him I'd have to ask if he can. That way he won't hear a thing.
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Hi ladies

Just heard back from clinic. Nurse spoke with doc and apart from my feeling lousy apparently I havnt done any damage. Cycle can continue which is great. Ill need more meds of this down regulator as I've clearly been like a cocaine addict with this nasal spray!!

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Ivf # 1 aug 2011 bfp. M/C 9 weeks
Ivf # 2 Mar 2012, beta Apr 12: Bfn
Ivf # 3 Aug 2012, another heart breaking bfn
Ivf # 4 Feb 2012
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Ninde- Glad it didn't cause any issues and you can continue on!
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Ninde-I'm so glad that everything is ok abd you can continue your cycle. Yay!!! I was so worried last night. I'm glad it all worked out. Now, please take it easy with the nasal spray, will ya :D
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DS14pr mrg
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Maria. - my us is March 15. Never carried beyond that point....7 weeks. Tired of waiting. So glad u made it to 12 weeks!!!! I know what u mean about being a RN and knowing too much....

Leora - hope your period starts soon! I understand where your hubby is at....I am kind of there right now. Just not right...just not fair....

AFM - started to spot just now....super light. Will wait to see what the day brings.
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Blue- I am so so sorry. I don't have the right words at all but just know i'm saying prayers for you. Big hugs!
Ninde- just had suppression check yesterday. With our first cycle, I wasn't suppressed at the check and was so devastated! My e2 level was 19 and I decreased lupron to 5 units this morning and I start menopur and follistim this Saturday! The Cadillac is amazing!
Kerpupples- hey you!.great to see you too! How are you feeling?
Kynlee- welcome! I am about two weeks away from egg retrieval and about to start stimming. I think that's what you asked? Lol, i'm scatter brained lately, no idea why. Glad you're here!
Globetrotter- welcome! Glad you're here too! This is a wonderfully supportive board.
Leora-my mother used to call ovulation "Roman roulette" no idea why. But ya it can hurt. I feel it all the time when I am. I love that you drive a mini van! What kind is it?
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Good Morning all!

Maria- what time is your ultrasound?

Ninde- I'm so glad you didn't hurt anything....step away from the nose spray....hehehehe :lol:

So I finally started AF!!!!!! So excited. So, it started 3 1/2 days after stopping the Provera. Today is considered officially Day 1 since I started last night around 8 PM. I have an email out to my nurse talking about timing. So, not sure yet if I will start the BCP tonight, tomorrow or Thursday. I think in one RE wants at least 19 days on BCP, which would mean I would start on Thursday, but actually prefers 21 days min on BCP, which would mean start tonight. ARGGG! Hopefully my nurse will email me soon after they are done with the other patients in the morning.

This is our last fresh cycle, so I'm a little nervous, but almost relieved. If we have some frosties from this cycle, we would continue until all of the frosties were put in me, but this is the very last fresh cycle unless we win the lotto, although I'm not even sure I would be ok doing it again if we did win the lotto.

Sorry no more personals today, my brain feels like it's oozing out of my head, not sure if it's just a cold, or the start of a sinus infection. Regardless, I'm not at the top of my game today.
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DS- 20 & 18 (previous marriage)
IVF#1- Aug 2011-Chemical/MC at 4 1/2 weeks
IVF#2- Dec 2011- M/C at 8w1d
IVF#3- April 2012- BFN
IVF#4- Aug 2012 DE 8/17 ET, beta 8/31- BFN(have 8 frosties)
FET#1-March 11,2013, beta 3/22-
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