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Katie - I know it was so weird. i was sitting at my desk at work and it just popped in my head. I didn't even think about it this morning before i went to work. I even took my BCP and put it in my bag where my lupron is at and it still didn't dawn on me. I have no brian.
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Franny and Sonya - good luck today!

Sonya - those FRER tests always give very light lines. I never got a heavy line on them until well into the pregnancy. i think they just dont have much die on them.

Franny - i know the feeling - i've done cycles with POAS and without. both are nerve wracking in their own way. I remember waiting for results from 2 of my "no POAS" cycles. very scary - had no idea what to expect. one of them i had all sorts of symptoms, so i for sure thought it was going to be a positive. imagine my shock when it was a negative! i couldnt believe it - what about all those twinges, i asked the doc. meant nothing. on the other hand i had a really quiet cycle - felt nothing - and that turned out to be a positive. so you never know.
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Lyd - You are so right about FRERs! I have certainly had my time being tormented by them, but the one time that this worked- those darn FRERs were stark white right up until my beta. And when I alrerady knew my beta was positive I tested again just to finally see two lines and it was there, but it was pretty faint for a beta of 65. How have you been feeling mama?
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I am so useless with time difference i have no idea what time of the day ye are at now but i just couldnt hold out any longer??? Franny and Sonya where are ye?????? Oh i just seriously need to know i was actually nervous logging on and to see there is no news ah damn i may try grab jasons computer later and try again!!! Come on ladies we are really rooting for some BFPS around here xxxx

Katie oh how i would love it to be so hot you would need ac!!! Its fecking cold here in Ireland like 11 degress celcius in middle june...where the hell is our summer!!!! I actually wore a winter jacket to work today!!!
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Ah feck its time for me to go to bed and still no news......praying no news is good news....and ye are too busy celebrating ....i am gonna dream of big BFPs tonight,

sweet dreams


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Good luck Franny
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DS 10 from previous marriage
ttc 5 yrs, Cervical cancer- in remission
IVF# 1 BFP m/c at 7 weeks
FET Nov 2010 BFN
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April 2012 Natural BFP on baseline to start cycling-- beta 4/11 35 beta 4/13 121

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Are you freaking kidding me?? Seriously another BFN??? This is too much. I don't know if I'll ever get to be a mom.
My heart is broken in so many pieces I don't even know where to begin to put them all back together.
As crazy as it sounds, I want to try again right away, but we are out of money, and so now we'll just have to try to figure out how to save that much money again.
It's all just too much. I'm not strong enough to deal with all of this over and over. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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DH-30- perfect
TTC for 5 years
1+2 IVF 2009- both cxl
3rd IVF Jan. 2010- BFN
4th IVF April 2010- BFN
5th IVF July 2010-BFN
6TH IVF Sept 2010- BFN
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Oh Franny, I am heartbroken for you. So sorry you have to go through this. We are here for you. (((((((hugs)))))))))
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{Me: 41, DH: 39} unexplained infertility
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Franny - My heart is breaking for you right now.. I have no words of wisdom. All I can offer is that I'm here for you to lean on. I'm so sorry honey. I didnt see this coming. I dont think its strange to want to try agin right away, not at all. Just look at how many times I've dont that too. It helps your heart to heal I think. I also think that your RE had better come up with some explaination or something as to why this happened. I'd have my f/u appt asap and push for answers and at the very least a big discount for the next FET. I feel your pain honey, I'm at the same standstill right nopw also. We love you Franny and hurt along with you. Try to get some rest and call your RE in the morning and know that you are cherished, ok honey? Big huge hugs - always!- xoxoxo
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Oh Franny, I'm sitting here in disbelief. I'm so sad and angry right now. I'm sorry that you are going through this again and I wish there was something I could say to help you through through the pain.
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Franny- I am so sorry. I have no words except for four letter ones that might offend others. Like Katie my heart is breaking for u and your hubby. Just know as usual we are always here for you. If I win the lottery I'm giving u bunches of money to become a mom.
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Franny, I am so sorry :( this sucks! I am so sorry you have had to bear through so many BFNs. It's more than anyone deserves to bear.
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#1 IVF BFN
#2 FET DS born
#3 IVF ectopic
#4 FET BFN
#5 FET Chemical
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ahhhh Franny i am just gutted for the both of you and cant even imagine after doing 8 attempts what you must be going thro. mentally though i do understand your need to keep going. Jeeny i really thought this was it fecking hell you must be going thro. torture. I too dont know what to say though i am just wondering how many intralpids did you do? and what other extra meds were you on?? look i know we are 2 completly different people attending clinics at different ends of the world but i remember my desperation to have Kayla after 6 attempts and changed clinics, i know your clinic threw everything at you and so did mine though i dont think you were on as many meds as me, i just left my prescription for my meds into the chemist and they are exactly like the fresh cycle from Kaylas (except for puregon) and most of them are to aid with implantation, auto immune, blood thinnners i was never diagnosed with any of these issues but my new clinic said the were giving me everything as you just never know. Here is a list of my meds if you want to google them i know it wont be much help and probably not for you but i also know you are desperate now and willing to do anything: aspirin, predisione (sp but its steroids) clexane injections every night (think this is for auto immune and help womb in some way) estrofem, vit. b complex, and crinone all along with 1 intralipid 1 week before transfer, 1 intralipid 1 week after transfer (and 2 more if pregnant). I doubt if this is of any help but its what worked for me. Again so sorry honey and big big (((((((((((((((((((((((hugs))))))))))))))))))))))) to both of ye

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Franny - I cant seem to get you off my mind today, I know you're having a rough day and may not even check in over here, but I did some Googling for you and have a question. When you talk to your RE ask him if you've ever had an Etegrity test
( endometrial biopsy specific for Beta 3 Integrin) what I found out was that women with endo seem to lack this particular protein thats important for implantation. I dont remember you saying that you had a biopsy done, but ask your RE please. Seems that its easily treated by 3-6 months of Depot Lupron. and I definitely dont remember you doing that. I know you dont like to call for your f/u until you're feeling better, but if this is the case the treatment time for this Depot Lupron is long enough! And pleaase know that I'm thinking of you. I'm not nagging, but was excited when I found this info. I hope it helps and I'm sending you much love - xoxo
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Hi guys! This sucks. It really really does.

Gi you are so sweet! Thank you so much for thinking of me. Any words or wisdom or advise is always welcome. I feel like I'm doing all the work myself. I have no idea what I even pay RE's for anymore. I did one intralipids 5 days before my transfer. I have been on a low dose steroid since cd1, and also a low dose woman's aspirin. I've never heard of clexane injections, but I was on everything else.

It's so hard to know if this time we did everything right, and maybe it was just the wrong embies, or if there is still a missing link, and without it I will never get pregnant. It's hard to believe that after 8 cycles, and 13 embies (5 of which were donor blasts) that not one single one wanted to stick and make my dreams come true. It's all just too tragic to think about!

Katie Thank you for always thinking of me! I was up all night last night googling beta 3 integrin and lupron depot. I have to tell you, after my surgery when I found out I had stage 4 endo my doctor (not an RE) told me I basically had 2 options. First I could have more invasive surgery to remove as much endo as possible, be out of work for 12 weeks, and then take 6 months of lupron depot, and then TTC naturally. The second choice was to find an RE, and do IVF. 5 years ago the 2nd choice seemed so much easier and quicker! HA! Now I'm wondering if maybe that's all that was missing. Who knows. I am wondering if I should even do the biopsy or just skip it and just to the lupron anyway. The side effects sound HORRIBLE!! And it scares the crap out of me, but it looks like it's just a once a month shot. The hot flashes would kill me, but if I survive then it might be worth it. Plus it will make me feel like I'm doing something while we are trying to save money for our next cycle. I wonder if it matter when during your cycle that you start it.
I haven't brought any of this up to Barry yet, I'm trying to figure it all out first, and then give him just the facts.
Do you think you'll find out about your lab work tomorrow?? Please keep me updated. I'm still here!!

Chris This sucks balls!! I hope you had a nice weekend away, and I hope that lupron is agreeing with you!! I can't wait for you to win the lottery!!

LYD Thank you for all of your thoughts. It really is too much right? I think I've learned all the lessons I possibly could from any of this, and it's just now become a really bad cruel joke! I hope you are feel well. xoxo

Libby It's like deja vu! I'm so happy to see you back around here though. I'm so sorry for everything you had to go though. It's all just too much. I hope you are healing. Do you think you'll try again soon?? You have always be in my thoughts sweetie!! xoxo

If I missed anyone I'm sorry, my brain is fried, but thank you all for cheering for me, and then letting me cry on your shoulders.

Has anyone heard from Sonya? If your reading this...I'm thinking of you!! xoxo
~ Franny
me-35- stage 4 endo
DH-30- perfect
TTC for 5 years
1+2 IVF 2009- both cxl
3rd IVF Jan. 2010- BFN
4th IVF April 2010- BFN
5th IVF July 2010-BFN
6TH IVF Sept 2010- BFN
moving on to donor embies
FET Feb 2012-BFN
FET Jun 2012- Here we go again!
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