Cycling In 2012 Board (formerly Fall/Winter 2011-2012)

[kynlee]

waitingkay- Your SIL is talking that way cause it was easy for her, but Women like us cant stop trying after 32... I will keep trying til I have my family, I see so many women on here that have gotten pregnant after 38 so it gives me alot of hope... Stay positive your beta is almost here, I am cheering you on Girl This is our Time

[anton]

Hi everyone!

Oh my!!! Wonderful, wonderful news on the board! Its blooming babies here and it’s awesome! Am so happy for all the mamas here! And with the latest BFP here of Madam x is like I have login to baby land here!

I wish only BFP from now on! For all of us! Infertility sucks badly and we all know that first hand, seeing a BFP and great betas from you girls is the best thing!! Feels like a Xmas morning! I live vigorously through your cycles and your BFP’s! and if it wasn’t for your success stories I would have been in lala land somewhere dark and creepy! Being on pause until my next cycle is the hardest thing! and even though I am thrilled for your BFP’s I can’t help it feeling driving away from the baby dream everyday... I know its normal to feel this way but that doesn’t make it less painful. Ok, enough vending! sorry!..

Madame X – HUGE CONGRATULATIONS!! You did it! You are pregnant! I am SO happy for you! When is your next beta?


Kynlee- You are looking good mama! Keep up the good work!


Leora- I know you are scared and it’s normal to be...but THIS IS IT honey! It has to be! Can’t wait for your u/s. Possible we hear a HB! - Hey! I went for an interview the other day at a company called Diplomat. It’s an Israeli company that handles P&G brands (Procter & Gamble) and it is huge in Israel, the biggest P&G retailer/distributor and since January they are handling the same brands in Cyprus. So, I went for an interview for a position at the Marketing dept and they called me yesterday to go for a second interview on Thursday. I am excited! I knew that the interview went well; after all, this job is made for me! The interview took 1hr and 20min and the one I have on Thursday will be 1hr they told me. The CFO is going to be present along with 3-4 people from various depts. They told me that the CFO is an Israeli guy and they have this policy in the company (because it is an Israeli company) that every Monday a teacher comes in the company and all the employees are learning Israeli/Hebrew! I found that awesome and I can’t wait to take the position ...and learn Hebrew! You can help me if I have homework right? Cross your fingers for me Leora! This is a dream job for me and I know I will thrive if they hire me! ...DH already teasing me that if I get the job at least we won’t have to worry about buying Pampers! (P&G brand)

Christy- Hang in there my friend! Looks like we are kinda in the same boat. You are waiting for DH to secure a job and me to find any job! so that we start IVF! I feel you on being on pause and everyone else is moving. I am on pause for a year now and it sucks big time! Not that we had any option though. We are self paid for the IVF and there is not even a single insurance company in Cyprus that pays even a small percentage of the medical expenses. The Government gives you the drugs for 3 attempts and those drug s are not even the 1 3rd of what we are using until the end. Unbelievable! Of course I am going for IVF attempt no.8 and I have wayyyy passed that Gov shitty help. And to think that when we started our 1st IVF I was thinking, feeling sorry of those people that are using all 3 to get a baby! Ignorance is not a good thing. ...about your co-worker, I am with Leora! Let’s strangle her and you can struggle ‘my people’! from what I hear she is getting 'better' and 'better' every day! She is SO immature ...and that doesn’t have to do with age....and she just can’t appreciate the gift of motherhood she’s been given! ...I am praying for your friend. How is she?

Maria- How are you feeling mama! I love light purple for the girl’s nursery! How exciting! Are you ready?


Lauren319- I am so happy you are progressing nicely honey! How are you feeling! Tell us some juicy pregnancy news!


Tiger- I am sorry you had none to freeze but won’t need them! you are going to get a BFP this time! When is your beta?


Ninde- I wish you have an amazing time with your friend! You sure need the vacation!


Kala- How are you feeling?


Nicole- yeah can’t you tell your IL’s what’s going on? My MIL and my parents knew from day 1 that we were about to start IVF. Of course our infertility was/is an open book...my DH got the mumps back in 2005 – even though he got them when he was young too- he was in London at that time 2005 and there was rage of mumps virus and he got it again! You know what they say about boys getting the mumps when they are adults can cause them infertility, well this exactly what happened to my DH. His balls had the size of a melon and on top of everything he got mumps orchitis in both his orchids. That caused the damage. If only a doctor could tell us back then to take his sperm and keep it in a sperm bank before it got damaged. Stupid doctors! So here we are trying to have a baby with IVF. His sperm got better, it can fertilize my eggs but our embryos just don’t implant. We have done all the tests you can think of on a list from here to the moon and all came back normal. Even my laparoscopy ad hysteroscopy showed nothing. So yes, our close family knows what we are doing and when we are doing. This way we don’t get pressure making all the time and everyone is supportive. So my advice, is tell them and relax!

Always- lovely egg making! I wish you a BFP at the end of this cycle! how many are transferring? And why the pgd if you don’t mind me asking?

Pocos- don’t worry about OHSS your dosage sounds normal. I wish you good luck with your cycle!


Wondercat- Good luck to you too!


WaitingKay- I am crossing my fingers for you! and yes is too soon to feel anything. Not that it matters at this stage. Feeling something or not feeling something from I hear on these boards, its totally irrelevant! Just relax...try to relax...yah right! ..and everything will be ok. when is your beta? I wish you a BFP!

Sorry if left anyone behind! May we all get our BFP’s soon and embrace motherhood!

Baby dust and sticky vibes to us all!

Love and light
anton

[Madame X]

Tiger – Glad you did all of that for yourself and are feeling positive. Feeling positive helps in so many ways in general and especially going through this stuff!

Always- Feeling any better?

Ninde – hope you are having a great time and getting your mind off of all this IVF stuff yet getting geared up for your cycle at the same time!

Leora- Good luck with your ultra sound!!

Kay – It is wonderful you are not obsessed; I wish I were more like that! So you are feeling good?

Blue – Glad they did a long and thorough u/s. Also, great news that you have lots of antral cells (follicles right?)

Tortilla – Same here with the exercise thing, walking is pretty much it for now. Tortilla, you sound like me, the closer beta day came the more anxious I got too! Then the day of I was a disaster, I didn’t even want to know anymore.

Pocos – I never heard of Luveris? I hope your stims go great and you get lots of beautiful eggs!! When exactly will you be starting the stims?

Kynlee – I am a huge worrier too, I was even up a while again last night. But right now I just want to enjoy the fact that I actually got a BFP and that I have reached a new milestone!!

Sunshine – How is your friend doing? Have you heard anything about her surgery?

Always- will they be doing the PGD tomorrow, then a day 5 transfer? Sorry I am a little confused.

Anton- Thanks for the congrats!!!

AFM - 2nd beta tomorrow ....

[kynlee]

Anton- You are such a great cheerleader, I cant wait to cheer you on Good luck with the 2nd interveiw with P&G, love the p&g coupons... I am a coupon freak lol

Madamex- Cant wait to hear your 2nd beta... And I totally hear ya I am enjoying the BFP moment especially cause this is the closest I felt to becoming a family.. it just gets hard in between the betas especially since the next one is 1 week after the one I had yesterday, I wish I could go every two days so that I am comforted it would make this journey that much easier, but why would anyone do that this journey is already hard enough so why make it any eaiser, right?

[Wondercat]

Sunshine - Yes, from the very beginning I have been pretty adamant about pursuing the fertility treatments sooner rather than later. Even so, we started TTC in early 2005 and did not have a baby until October 2009. First we "tried" for a certain amount of time before a doctor would take us seriously. Different appointments to have us both tested. Several doctors to confirm that my husband has no vas deferens. Testing to discover the cause: atypical cystic fibrosis. Months of waiting for a genetic counseling appointment. It was almost a full year just to get into an IVF clinic and get started. Not to scare you (or anybody) but meanwhile, my husband's cousin has awesome 10-year-old twin boys via IVF from his first marriage. She walked out on him, and he finally recently remarried a wonderful woman. They just found out after 2 failed extractions that at 38 he now has absolutely zero sperm. So I take it very seriously that with all the waiting, things can change for the worse.

Leorira - I live on Cape Cod - so yes, an island. Martha's Vineyard. We're both on the mainland now, thank goodness! This has to be your lucky one, there is so much positivity on this board!!

[Cyn22]

Kynlee - yeah!!! A big Congrats for you!!! So beyond happy for you!!!

Leora - good luck with the U/S !!

I got so excited to read & catch up on everyone's good news!!
Congrats to everyone else !!

AFM- just got back from Maui, Hawaii with the Hubby & our two teens. We had a blast. It was so much fun kayaking & snorkeling & Ziplining. Then lots of time for the hubby & I to relax (me to have a couple of drinks... He doesn't drink) the kids played in the pool the ocean. They entertain themselves.
I really started thinking about having another baby. We are enjoying our teens so much & then I think wow to start all over again is going to be a change for us all. The kids are already talking about going to Japan next year for our family vacation then making a stop back to Hawaii on the way back home. We love our yearly vacations... Lots to think about. I still have my 4 frozen babies waiting for me. I have been working out trying to lose these 10-15lbs I put on with the meds . & doing weekly acupuncture with the new Chinese doctor. I really like him. He said my body is almost ready. My levels have gone up & my uterus isn't cold anymore. Maybe they will finally implant!!

Lots to think about but waiting until after August to decide when. I have alot of work traveling these next 6 weeks.

Thinking of you all & sending lots of well wishes!!!!

[to_have_fun08]

Offically PUPO.. we transferred one grade 2 blast yesterday. Betas are next Monday and Wednesday. Hopefully the time will go by fast. if this embie sticks... we will be team PINK!! Kind of scary, don't know how to deal with a girl. I was always a tom boy.

[Pocos]

WaitingKay - Wow I am so shocked at the difference between your E2 levels! Now I am wondering if I was triggered too soon. My E2 was at 2680 when I had the pregnyl shot. I had more than 20 follicles in each ovary. 12 eggs were retrieved but only 3 were mature!! and I had OHSS too. At least this time I am with a clinic that doesnt do all the retrievals/transfers in the same week, they do it everyday. I believe maybe I needed a little extra time to mature my eggs but since they did my retrieval in the last possible day (Friday), I had no other choice. Oh well, hopefully it will work this time. When are you doing your BETA test?
Good luck!

anton - Thanks for the encouragement! I have been so worried about the OHSS that I haven't been able to sleep, I am getting anxiety attacks. I had anxiety and sleep disorder in the past, and I really can't go through that now, too much for my body!

MadameX-I already started the stims with Gonal f and now they added this Luveris, I am not sure what it does LOL I was reading it is LH so I guess it helps mature the eggs. I should have my retrieval next week on Tuesday!

AFM - I didn't tell anyone about his IVF, since nobody really helps with their words. My mother wants me to adopt, so when I talk about IVF she talks about adoption. My dad said I was making babies in a "glass", and that it sounded weird. Seriously, they can't help anyways since they are in my native Brazil, enough is enough. Only my husband knows of course. Sometimes I feel like telling someone but if no even my parents understand me, who will? Plus, I dont really have any "real friends" in the US... Why are some people have so much prejudice agains IVF? If I get pregnant, I am telling my parents only after I see the heartbeat, and other people only after my belly starts to grow and I can't hide it. Enough is enough

[LauraN]

Hello all! I will have to get caught up, my internet provider no longer gets the website so I can only be on my phone for the board until the internet is back up. Anyways, congrats for all the awesome betas girls!!!!

Anton- hey, good luck with that job!!! It sounds fantastic. So, how long after you get a job will you start your ivf.cycle?

Afm- had a sono this morning, lining looks good. Started lupron shot today. I do the one shot every morning, then next friday I start the estrogen patches. Then, the day of our donor's ER, I start the lovely PIO's AND progesterone suppositories....yucko. Oh well. Our donor starts hereds aug 4th.

[kynlee]

LaurenN- Congrats on starting your Meds time will fly and you will be PUPO As for the progesterone shots ask for Elma cream it really works I been doing the shots for weeks now and still not sore and it doesnt hurt to give them

Pocos- Tues will be here before you know it... I havent told anyone except my BFF and my niece that I am doing IVF Maybe someday after I get my dream I will tell others, my DH doesnt want anyone to know right now... Your Parents will think differently when they see your precious baby that you made

tohavefun08- COngrats PUPO

Cyn- Glad you got to have a nice relaxing vacation in Hawaii Much deserved!!! Im sure once you decide to do your FET you will be nice and relaxed

AFM- WHo would ever think I would want morning sickness, well at this point I do lol I still dont have much symptoms so I feel like POAS everyday just to reassure myself, is that normal? Lol

[blueeyedreamer]

Where do you all order your meds?

[kerpupples]

Nicole - my clinic claimed To have shopped around and found the best prices at The Apothecary Shop in Phoenix. I shopped around a tiny bit and that seemed to be accurate. During my cycle with DD I had insurance and they ordered from Freedom. I never had any issues with them. Also - didn't mean to imply you SHOULD go with PGD, just that if you did microarray see the most thorough.

[Alwaysangel]

Anton-we did pgd in jan and also now to look at the embryos to ensure that a gen. Normal embryo is only transfered due to my losses all of which remain unexplained. I will be transferring 2 embies

Madame- yes tomorrow is pgd day assuming the embryos are doing well and a day 5 trans is planned for fri. If they don't look well pgd could be ccld and have day 3 trans if needed. Hoping to get good news tomorrow!! Can't wait for ur 2nd beta!

To have fun- congrats on being PUPO!!!

Blue- the first clinc used apothicary but this clinic uses a local pharmacy.

Lauren-congrats on great appt today!

Afm- today has been a little better. Still bloated. Up every 2 hrs at night to pee sorry tmi! I only gained 1-1.5 lbs prior to ER. Tomorrow will be the call-- go in for day 3 things not going well or will be given a time for Friday!!! Hoping tomorrow will be a good day!

[blueeyedreamer]

Thanks. I left a message with Apothecary. Freedom is who I have always gone with but they seem to be really expensive this time. Last cycle I paid $3100 for the meds (gonal-f, menopur, hog, progesterone, vivelle). This time I need the same amount of gonal-f, mini hcg, hcg trigger, ganirelix, progesterone, vivelle). Without vivelle it is $4499. There is a $400 mail in rebate through Gonal but of course that comes later.

I'm hoping Apothecary is less. I saw something about the DesignRx program but can't figure out what it is. I guess I will find out tomorrow. I did look into IVFmeds.com but I would be pushing it time wise. It's a full $1000 less to get the gonal-f through them. It would come from London so I don't know if I would get it in time.

Kerpupples- No, I didn't think you were suggesting I should do the PGD. I understood:) I like the idea of looking at the whole array instead of just 6.

[Sunshine1576]

Cyn22! Aloha It's so great to see you back! Oh I have really really been wanting to try acupuncture I know it could only help with the stress and chaios.

Kynlee- What about a dopler? I think it's what they call it, whatever the tool is called where you can hear the hb. I know you have to wait until 6 or 7 weeks to hear it, but maybe you could ask someone over on the "Parents" board if they have one they would like to sell to you OR maybe you rent them idk. I just know it would give one reassurance every night. Thank you for letting me vent earlier. You give me great strength and hope through it all.

Pocos- Ugh your parents need to know you need to go through the whole pregnancy experience and this gives us the best chance. Truth is someday they will be holding your precious little one AND at that very moment all that fuss won't even matter.

Wondercat, Yes very true with all the waiting around my MIL reminds me of that quite often. She was the one who told me we shouldn't wait even with dh's job situation, but everyone knows I worry too much. As for me I would be ok if it came down to it where we had to adopt but as I mentioned before dh is so glued to the job market that it's absorbed every entity of his time and energy. My stomach aches for things the way they used to be, seriously today I had two major episodes of ingestion where I thought is was the flu, but my stomach is literally in knots. My boss got me worked up over something I told her this afternoon. We were talking about my sales dropping (I'm usually the one pushing for commission) and I told her ALOT has been on my plate, with my grandmother's estate and dh's job interviews and then my IVF being placed on the back burner. I told her I wish I could accept things the way they are, but I can't. I went on and said one thing dh said was he felt having a baby together would make him love me even more. Well my boss did not like that (I didn't mention my boss told me today she is going through a divorce) But she went on and said a baby shouldn't be what it takes for him to love you more, those feelings should be there before you even start having kids. She said maybe you aren't in a place to have kids right now, and besides you have this really good job now. Like that makes all my pain go away? I'm resenting that we talked about this because I know my husband better then anyone ever will and I know he would never want to hurt me like that, he only meant a baby would bring us closer together. Both of us are very independent-minded where we come and go, pretty much like room-mates. Ugh why do people who have NO IDEA try give us advice, but more importantly why do we even let them get under our skin? I'm really trying to deal with everything but it's so hard.

Anton- Great news on the job possibility, "Proctor & Gamble" is a name I recognize. What did you ever find out about the cruiseline where you could go on exotic vacations? Job situation is so rough, I wish more and more healthcare provided fertility insurance to give us a well deserved break. How can we change that?

WaitingKay- Well we will make birthdays our opportunities for the biggest chance for change and personally I'm almost done procrastinating. Dh and I did talk tonight about IVF, we think we might could pay off the truck and then reapply for the loan. I would like to borrow everything we need having only one loan payment to work with. Ninde- You sound busy with work, are you cycling in August?

So on board with you and Kay with "Strangers on a Train"! LOVE Alfred Hitchcock's murder mysteries! Soooo We could plot it all out here without them EVER finding out! We just need a get-a-way car, Leora?


LauraN- August is right around the corner, oh goodness where has time really gone to?!

to-have-fun- One of each flavor would give you the perfect family, did pgd give you the gender selection ability? Neat stuff!

MadameX- Good luck on your second beta tomorrow! Thanks for asking about my friend, she is hanging in there, her surgery is in August but I would be a nervous wreck too with surgery where they could be removing fallopian tubes and ovaries. She's in her mid-twenties, her intense migranes run in the family from her mother's side.

AFM: Today, I also helped my boss organize the backroom, told me she is making a memo-board on the backdoor for each one of us to hang a picture of our goal so we might be more motivated to work harder to reach higher and make more money. I look up at her and said well you already know what mine would be, and she responds maybe you can put up something that wouldn't make you feel depressed but honestly I cannot think of anything else right now that I would rather want... Maybe I should place a brochure for an adoption agency so the pg coworker will feel bad and give me her baby, no? Speaking of her, the pg coworker walked in 35 minutes late and my boss jumped all over her, she was steamed. Once our boss left, the pg coworker turned to me to ask what time I leave tonight. I said as of right now... She said oh I was hoping I could run and get a coffee. Some nerve she had, I told her I really have to get out of here with my indigestion and so I left.