Positive and early MC ??

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hope2004
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Post by hope2004 »

Well, it's as I thought, time to call it quits. No heartbeat at 7 1/2 wks. My doctor assures me that it's probably chromosomal problem and nothing to do with me. She also confirmed that it does prove that my lining is good and able to support a pg, which I was always skeptical of. Basically the older you get the more chromosome problems with the eggs, approx. 50% at age 35 so it's the luck of the draw. I stop the progesterone today and it should resolve itself in a week, if not I have to go in for a procedure..ugg. Hope it doesn't come to that.

Paige, thanks for the suggestion. I have a lot of confidence in my lab and my doctor (so far). I have 5 day-2 embryos and 4 blastocysts in the freezer so I think we have a lot to work with. Also I think I know why the first IVF failed (over-stimulated and had to coast for too long) and I'm counting the 2nd cycle as a success just a problem with the embryo.

Thank you ladies for all of your support. I'm glad that I could share my story with women that understand and know that I'm not alone with these feelings. I hope with all of my heart that none of you ever have to go through this!
Me - 35 Unexplained DH 37
TTC#1 since '97
5 IUIs
1st IVF 5/04 - transferred 2-neg
2nd IVF 7/04 - transferred 3-pos but MC at 8 wks.
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Post by Sand »

Hi Hope

I'm sorry you've gone through so much, and so glad it's now finally over - although it's not the result any of us wanted. It's good to see you can rationalise in your own mind what has gone wrong to date, and look positively to the future.

You take some You time now, and take care

Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
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Post by Susan L »

Hope
i am so very sorry this has happened i really was wishing that it was all going to be ok for you i no there is no words that will make you feel better i just wanted you to no i am thinking of you

you really sound a very strong person and that you will fight on til you get what you want.
when this happened to me i looked at it in the same sort of way it worked and it will again it just was not meant to be that time you will get there look after yourself and DH and have loads of time together

take care

susan
Me 27 DP 28
ttc 6 years started ivf Oct 03 due to M/F
ICSI Oct 03 negative
ICSI April 04 Positive but ended m/c at 10wks
FET Nov 04 positive boy girl twins born 5th july 2005 at 35weeks Blake 6lbs13oz kirsten 6lbs10oz
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Post by Mia »

Oh Hope! I am so sorry! I have been on pins and needles from the very begining of your ordeal hoping and praying for the best for you and your family.
I know my post earlier today was so negative, but I really want the best for everyone.
Have you decided when you will proceed with a FET treatment? Please keep us updated and know that you are very well thought of here on the board.
Please take extra good care of yourself!
Mia
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Post by alicia »

Hope,

So sorry to hear it has ended like this. And I know it is so hard waiting after you get the news that the end is coming. I had a very hard time with it - but once it happened it was not as bad as I feared.

Please take extra good care of yourself and let DH spoil you. I'm glad you are thinking that you will proceed with the frosties in the future. Hopefully you will be able to do a cycle with no or very few drugs as it is much less expensive and invasive.

Thank you for sticking with us through it all. I hope you dreams will come true with your next tmt.

Alicia
TTC 2.5 years - Me 38 no tubes; DH 32
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
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Post by Paige »

Hope:

I'm sooo sorry you had to wait so long to get a definitive answer. What an unbelievably drawn out process for you. Though your uterine lining must be great to accept and grow an embryo that wasn't meant to be...so that is VERY positive.
Also, having some of your embies got to blast is awesome! My friend who went through 5 cycles says that the FET is atleast 80% easier to get through physically! I didn't have any go to blast, so you must have some great ones.

Best of luck to you, and keep us posted...I'm always searching for your posts, as I think we have a lot of the same outlook on a lot of issues.

Paige
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Post by Barny »

Hi Hope,

Sorry to hear that the eventual outcome wasn't good news. The last few weeks must have been a nightmare for you. Although knowing it's not viable must hurt loads, at least you know one way or the other now. All that uncertainty really does do you head in. The 2ww is bad enough and you've had another 3 1/2 wks to contend with.

I hope that things happen naturally now and that you don't have to go for a procedure.

You're very strong to be able to look at the positives right now - lining is able to support a pregnancy and you've got your frosties.

Stay strong and take good care of yourself.

Barny
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Post by eacole »

Hope,

Just back on the board after a bit of a hiatus...I am sorry to hear your news, though it is good to finally know for certain and move on, don't you think? I know for me it was that waiting and uncertainty (though you went so much farther with this, and I can only imagine just how hellish it has been) that really hurt the most. Onc eI knew, (like you I'm always doing my research), I had alot of questions for my follow-up and felt/feel good afterwards about the next cycle. I have 6 frozen embs, but I don't believe any are blastocysts (a question for my Doc. when I see her in sept.) because I don't believe that is the protocol here.

Anyway, your frozen collection sounds amazing!! If I were you, I woul ddefinately be feeling very hopeful (you've go to excuse me for always using your name, i.e. 'hope-ful'! I prefer it to 'positive' because for me, I've got to leave room for sometimes not always feeling so positive-I feel so much pressure at times already and 'hopeful' seems to leave space for other feelings and feeling that this is OK, cause even when I'm feeling a bit negative, I don't think I ever really lose hope-just chalk all this stuff up to being a psychotherapist, and a woman who is very picky about her words, gee oh gosh..Of course, when it's the dreaded two weeks for anyone, for myself, I'm gunning for loads of PMA, because I can't see it being any other way-you just have to believe it will be until proved otherwise, I think.

take good care of yourself..the FET sounds so much easier, though I've chosen to do IVF my next round because it is covered byt he NHS and hopefully (that word again) I'll have some more frosties.
Love,
Elizabeth
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Post by hope2004 »

Thank you Elizabeth, Barny, Paige, Alicia, Mia, Susan, Sandra and anyone else I may have missed for your help through this difficult time. I'm still waiting for it to be over. I feel like I've gained 10 pounds (really only 4) and I'm still really tired. I've read on other boards that the HCG could take several weeks to go back to zero, so this is really going to delay things.
I've been reading up on PGD and it sounds very helpful especially since I don't want to go through this again and my insurance only pays for one more try. Maybe we will fork out the extra $$ for that next time. Anyone have any info?
Elizabeth, we may do a fresh cycle next too because of insurance.
Me - 35 Unexplained DH 37
TTC#1 since '97
5 IUIs
1st IVF 5/04 - transferred 2-neg
2nd IVF 7/04 - transferred 3-pos but MC at 8 wks.
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Post by alicia »

Hope,

I really think you deserve to have this over with very quickly. I hope things don't take long for you now. Waiting for it to end after you know things have stopped happening has got to be the worst. I'm praying for you that your levels go all the way down naturally.

Thanks for sticking with us,

Alicia
TTC 2.5 years - Me 38 no tubes; DH 32
1st- IVF June 2004 - early MC
2nd - FET Aug 2004 - Twin boys born April 25, 2005!!!
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Post by eacole »

Hope,

You're welcome, and thank god we all have each other for this. As everyone knows only too well, noone undertands better than all you guys going thru this. I've given up talking to anyone else about it except my husband.
Why don't you ask your clinic if it takes a few weeks for the HCG to drop off, just to be sure? I hate to think of you having to wait that long, but then again, you might want a bit of a break. I do know that it took about 2 weeks for all the HCG to leave my system, and I did not have a high rate. I'm just thinking of myself here really, as it would be great to cycle with you come sept/oct :P Our stories are a bit similar.

What is a PGD, by the way??

elizabeth
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