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Mandy Miller
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BFN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Post by Mandy Miller »

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Hi Girls.

Chubbs, I can really identify I promise. My love & thoughts & best wishes go out to you right now. I am crying a little as I type this, because I know exactly what you are going through. Try & have a break. We have now decided to go to Marmais in Turkey for 1 week, rather than just 4 days in Paris. Will do that in spring instead. We really need more of a restful few days, as I am sure you do. Have a good think about where you want to go from now in a while, when you feel a bit more positive. Don't make any major, life changing decisions at this time, lets face it, we're not in the best frame of mind for it are we. Much better to wait till we feel a bit better. Have you tried a Flotation Session. They are very good. I am due a free one soon, but normally they are £35.00 a time, but are well worth it. I think I will wait a few months to get this out of my system, but they are very relaxing, so I am focusing on good things right now & you should too. We are going to a Chris De Burgh Concert in October, so have that to look forward to. Try & plan lots of nice self-indulgent things to do. I plan to try & get a bit fitter & lose a little weight if poss, if for nothing else, to make me feel more positive.

This is my second attempt. I think I have said the first time I had 8 eggs, 5 matured & 3 fertilised so 2 were put back. This time, although they upped my drugs a lot (so consequently the cost shot up too!!!), I still only got 8 eggs, but it got worse, only 3 matured & only this one fertilised, so as you, only 1 put back. I did say I cheated on Monday & tested that evening & got a negative, so that prepared me a bit, but everyone said that it could still happen, it had turned round for some & been positive later. This was not my experience though. As I said, was due to test last night, but Wednesday evening I had some spotting. Last time I came on 3 days before testing, but this time, I still hadn't come on even after negative test, so I had started to hope as had felt sick & dizzy etc from right after ET really & hadn't last time. I seem to have different symptoms each time. Must remember to write down to ignore them if do another final one. I truly believe now that all my cruel symptoms came from those damn Progesterone pessaries!!! They are evil. That's one good thing, at least we don't have to endure them or the shots if you were having them. By yesterday morning it was more like the usual AF, not spotting anymore, although not too heavy. I did the HPT, just to prove it so I could dispense with the pessaries. Needless to say it was -ative!

I sincerely hope you can find peace, (don't ask me how that's possible, as I haven't a clue either!!!). It's not easy trying to be positive at the moment, is it. My husband won't even adopt, so I don't even have that to hold on to, so we are just going to see if anything happens next April & they give us all a free go & will go from there.

Take care of yourself, maybe keep in touch on here. Perhaps we can now put messages in the life after treatment section. I will be thinking about you in the coming weeks.

Lots of love & healing thoughts.

Mandy (Miller) xxxxx :cry:

To everyone else.

Thanks a lot for your support through this. It has helped, although not easy reading the good luck messages after it happend. Could someone post my result please, as haven't a clue how to & probably couldn't bring myself to anyway.

Good luck to those of you still waiting to test/cycling. I wish you all the best. I probably won't be able to look & see the results though, as may be too painful, but I do wish you well.


Sorry, have really waffled, but it's good therapy.

Thanks again, love, Mandy (Miller)xxx :cry:
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Post by ANGELA »

Mandy

I cant say anything that is going to make you feel any better but im sending you a big cyber hug and lots and lots of love to you and dh
take care mandy and take time to get over this do things for you and you only

thinking of you Love Ang xx
Our dream came true after 5 yrs ttc we know have 8month old twin boys Adam and Kieran and our gorgeous 9 yr old daughter.
Hang in there miracles really do happen
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Post by wendy30 »

Hi Mandy

Sorry to hear your result and there is at the moment probably nothing anyone can say to make you feel any better. But we do all know how you feel, I'd like to say that getting a negative result gets easier the more time it happens but it doesn't, however, I feel I have got better at dealing with it, it seems to become a part of your life.

As long as you have hope you should carry on, thats what will get me through my next attempt (6th).

Try to just do nice things together with your DH, your holiday is the ideal thing to look forward to.

Thinking of you

Wendy
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Post by Ellie »

Mandy
I am so sorry to hear your result.Even if you were a little prepared there is always a small shread of hope flickering in there somewhere then the negative comes and hits you like a sledgehammer. I know things are tough at the moment but stay strong. I hope you enjoy your holiday and good luck with whatever you decide to do next.
Take care
Ellie
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Post by Dolly »

Mandy, I really am so sorry that it didn't work out for you this time. Take a bit of time out to pamper yourself - it doesn't take the pain away - but it sure helps.

Take care of each other and enjoy your holiday.

Love and hugs

Dolly
Me 38 / DH 40. TTC 8 yrs
3 natural pg - 2 ectopics and 1 miscarriage
2nd IVF +ve but miscarried
1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th IVF all -ve
Moved to the ARGC.
Just started for the 7th time (!) Feb/March 2006.
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Post by Sand »

Oh Mandy ... I know there's nothing I can say to make this any easier. You make sure you have a good break and get lots of rest.

Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
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Post by Chubbs »

Dear Mandy
I was thinking of you on thursday but its taken until now to get back onto the board. Your message was truly so very kind and my heart feels for you. I was hoping that one of us one embies would have had a positive.
I have been a complete wreck since thursday and any discussion relating to IVF, just the mention of it leaves me a grizzling wreck. I honestly believe I need to close this chapter on IVF before it destroys me, I thought it may get easier but it seems only to get worse. We have so much against us, I'm old, never felt it until IVF, they can't get many eggs my husband has a low sperm count and a chronic lung disease and I believe that the genetics are against us. If I was to try again I think I would have to consider somewhere like Nottingham I think where they can do genetics tests on the embryo and at least I would have a better understanding. But that may not be an option as I have had high FSHs. We are having a holiday at the end of the month and it will be nice to have some time away from IVF which seems to have taken over our life for the last two years. I will watch the board and look out for you next April and I do hope you get the positive you deserve.
Your messages have been truly helpful, thank you
Take care and enjoy your holiday, you deserve it
Love Chubbs
Me 39 DH 34
Dec 2003 1st IVF/ ICSI - poor response 1 embi - neg. FSH up post cycle
April 2004 2nd IVF / ICSI - 2 embis - neg
August 2004 - 3rd attempt : 1 embi, testing 2/9/04
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Post by AMITHIS »

Mandy,

I just saw your news. I wish I could have posted sooner but wasn't able to get to the computer until now.

I'm so sorry. I know how frustrating and heart wrenching it all is and I wish I could say something to make you feel better.

As far as your DH not being willing to adopt, is it possible that he might eventually change his mind? I have to say mine was absolutely dead set against it but I tentatively brought up the issue again one night last week when we were out at dinner and he seemed a bit more receptive. I mean I think he knows that if my tries with the frozen embies don't work, then we either adopt or we don't have children at all. He wasn't willing to face that as the reality before because he was so convinced IVF would work. To be honest, I'm not even sure how I feel about adoption yet myself. It would certainly require a lot of research and soul searching on my part first. I do take a little comfort in knowing it may be a possibility if things don't work out though as I can't just picture us growing old and never having children without getting very depressed. Of course, if you can have another go next year then that should be your first approach if you are up for it.

I hope you and DH have a great time in Turkey!

Please stay in touch.

Hugs,
Staci
Me 35/DH 41
TTC 4 years
Diagnosis: MF infertility
IVF/ICSI April 2004: -tive
FET Aug. 2004 (canceled due to cysts)
FET Jan 2005: -tive
FET Aug. 2005
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Re Adoption

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Hi Staci.

I hope you are OK with all the hurricanes you have had. I presume you are, as you are still posting. It must be very scary though. My Aunty lives in Los Angeles. She hasn't said it is affecting her yet. Can't begin to imagine what you are going through. Have seen pictures on the telly & can't believe how bad things are. It is so sad that some people are getting killed. I think we have the tail end of it here. We have about 50 mile an hour winds here at the moment, but nothing like your scale of things.

Sorry to have been so long in replying, but been really busy at work & also found it a bit hard checking in here reading it all. Thanks for your reply. I am pretty sure my DH won't change his mind, but we will cross that bridge when we come to it next April. For now, will just concentrate on looking after eachother & hoping that maybe, by some major miracle, mother nature may do what it's meant to, but if not, at least we can have more time for eachother!

Looking forward to Turkey now, hopefully v. soon.

Take care & please keep in touch. It keeps us all sane, (hopefully!!!).

Love, Mandy. xxx :)
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Post by ogr1 »

i can testify that adoption is a wonderful thing.
we have adopted only teenagers.
but my dh was adopted and he loves his parents. has never wanted to go find his birth parents. both of his parents live with us. but his mom passed away back in 99.( great women)
he has said thou that he wished he new his medicale history.

becky
we werent blessed with our babies to raise here but we our blessed with our grandaughter
and all of our many adopted and foster children that touch our lives
and i am glad to add that our 6th grandchild will be born this spring!!!!
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Post by Paige »

Ladies:

I was adopted when I was 8 days old. It was probably one of the best things that ever happened to me. I've never tried to chase down my birth mother or gone through that type of "needing to know". I have wonderful parents, a brother who is adopted, and a younger sister who my Mom had naturally (after 13 yrs of sex...she got PG!).

I was just talking to a family who adopted a baby boy from the Ukraine. Ironically the cost was right around $15,000.....the same as an IVF cycle at the clinic I was at. Atleast with the adoption you have more than a 43% chance! I do understand exhausting all ways to have your own child prior to adopting. If anyone has any questions about the whole adoption thing, please let me know.

Paige
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Thoughts on Adoption.

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Thanks for your replies. Maybe we will revisit the adoption idea if need to after April. Will keep you posted. Must write that letter to the Prime Minister soon. Will let you all know what reply I get, if any!!!

Talk soon.

Love, Mandy.xxx
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