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JackieT · Post by **JackieT** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 5:52 pm

hi my name is jackie and im in desperate need of some advice, i am in my 2WW {day8} and have had lots of symptoms.i.e sore breasts, pains in every area of my tummy, nauseous, discharge, going off my food, yet feeling hungry all the time.!! i have done two tests, both -ive, i am due for blood tests on monday. i have been pretty confident up until today and i feel real down in the dumps now. i have had enough now and i want to know. yesterday i felt pregnant, but today i feel like a bad case of p.m.t. everyone seems to have implant bleeding! not me. im real sorry for going on and sounding so neg but i think im losing my mind, has anyone got any words of wisdom for me? i have posted before but to no avail.. please help if you can, thanks.... jackie. p.s. what is the best preg test to use???

Jules · Post by **Jules** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 7:37 pm

Hi Jackie Not sure if I can be of much help but I can tell you that the docs don't recommend you testing earlier than 14 days after ET as you can get a false negative result before then, so please try not to worry (easy to say I know). If you look back at some of the other ladies on here going through their 2ww you'll see that there are no magic symptoms which mean you're pg unfortunately as everyone seems to respond differently. You may also see that some of us do test early however due to the unbearable strain of the wait, with mixed results. I've heard that Clear Blue is supposed to be the most accurate home pg test, I had it in preparation for my first 2ww back in June, only to be rudely awoken by my period the day before I was due to test. But that doesn't mean the same will happen to you so please try not to worry and I wish you loads of luck with lots of +ve vibes!!! Hopefully some other guys will post with more advice too... Love Jules xxx

JackieT · Post by **JackieT** » Tue Sep 03, 2002 10:05 pm

hi jules thank you so much for reply,i realy feel i am going to get AF. i am struggling with the thoughts of 6 more days, and will i even get to take the blood test.its like your whole life is on hold until the end result of this, im not sure i could go through all of this in the near future, God, am i negative or what? i have been so good until today,do you know if everyone has a implant bleed? anyway, where are you in your treatment? is this your first time also? it has really helped to get a reply thanks again! talk soon. love jackie.

Kimmy · Post by **Kimmy** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 10:39 am

Hi jackie, I think what you are going through in the 2WW is absolutely normal. I drove myself crazy analyzing every symptom, I couldn't sleep property, I felt nauseous all the time and found it difficult to think about anything else at all!!! All I would say to you is try and relax, I know it is easy for me to say this, but having gone through the 2WW I really believe that worrying and stressing about the outcome is not doing you any good. Unfortunately, it is totally out of our control and the best thing you can do is to look after yourself, eat propertly, drink lots of water and try not to stress!!! Please don't worry about thinking AF is about to arrive, it can also be good news. I was pregnant in March this year (ended in m/c at 5.5 weeks) and I was totally convinced that af was about to arrive. I had really bad cramps for about 5 days, so please don't think that it has been unsuccessful because of this. Also my IVF last month I had the same af cramps and that was also a positive result, although turned out to be a chemical pregnancy. Another thing I would advise is not to test too early. I started testing at 10dpt and was getting very very faint positives. At 13dpt I tested again and another faint positive, then at 17dpt af arrived. I do believe that if I hadn't tested I would never had known about the chemical pregnancy and would have saved myself a lot of heartache. I have everything crossed for you and please try and stay positive - I know it is hard. Please let me know how your beta goes. BTW if you are going to test I would use Clear Blue. Don't waste your money on early pregnancy tests - they have never worked for me. I hope the time passes quickly for you. Good Luck Lisa

Kimmy · Post by **Kimmy** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 10:56 am

Hi jackie, I think what you are going through in the 2WW is absolutely normal. I drove myself crazy analyzing every symptom, I couldn't sleep property, I felt nauseous all the time and found it difficult to think about anything else at all!!! All I would say to you is try and relax, I know it is easy for me to say this, but having gone through the 2WW I really believe that worrying and stressing about the outcome is not doing you any good. Unfortunately, it is totally out of our control and the best thing you can do is to look after yourself, eat propertly, drink lots of water and try not to stress!!! Please don't worry about thinking AF is about to arrive, it can also be good news. I was pregnant in March this year (ended in m/c at 5.5 weeks) and I was totally convinced that af was about to arrive. I had really bad cramps for about 5 days, so please don't think that it has been unsuccessful because of this. Also my IVF last month I had the same af cramps and that was also a positive result, although turned out to be a chemical pregnancy. Another thing I would advise is not to test too early. I started testing at 10dpt and was getting very very faint positives. At 13dpt I tested again and another faint positive, then at 17dpt af arrived. I do believe that if I hadn't tested I would never had known about the chemical pregnancy and would have saved myself a lot of heartache. I have everything crossed for you and please try and stay positive - I know it is hard. Please let me know how your beta goes. BTW if you are going to test I would use Clear Blue. Don't waste your money on early pregnancy tests - they have never worked for me. I hope the time passes quickly for you. Good Luck Lisa

JackieT · Post by **JackieT** » Wed Sep 04, 2002 4:44 pm

Hi Lisa thanks for your reply. I have already gone out and bought 3 HPTS all negative, one of them was the clearblue, but i did test this afternoon rather than morning so hopefully my next test will be o.k. would you believe i have absolutely no symptoms at all today. maybe i did not go for i.v.f. treatment at all!!!!! I have made my mind up now that i am not going to let this get me down tonight.i am going to be so positive when DH comes home from tennis that he will probably walk out again{to the pub}. Are you going to try again? Iam so sorry to hear about your 2 losses, that must have been very hard. I hope to hear from you soon. thanks again love jackie xxx

Kimmy · Post by **Kimmy** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 2:51 pm

Hi jackie, Glad to hear that you are trying to gain control again!!!!!! I really think that you are testing too early, some women don't get a +HPT until after AF is due, so don't dispair. Also clearblue is used from day of missed period, so I would wait a while (I know, easy for me to say now!), but i also TOTALLY understand why you are doing this and I know that there is nothing anybody can say to you to make you stop!!!!! HEEHEE I know that next time I go through the 2WW I will have to have somebody watching me 24/7 and stop me from testing and freaking out. When I got my + , not only did I do about 6 tests, but I also carried them around with me and kept on looking at them every 2 minutes!!! I was NUTS!!!! When were you told to test? Will you be having a BETA also? Yes, we shall be starting IVF again, hopefully in about 2 weeks time, just waiting for AF to start. I am keen to get going again!!! Bye for now Lisa

JackieT · Post by **JackieT** » Thu Sep 05, 2002 6:08 pm

hi lisa, thanks for your reply, yes, yes, yes iknow i have been told, but i cant help myself,5 tests later and im still -ive. finally spoke to the nurse today and asked about the little blobby things i found in the toilet after going pee. she said they are not likely to be the bullets {as i thought}. but they could be implants!!!! and that not every one bleeds, she also agrees with you too early to test. are you lot conspiring against me? has my DH got a contract to get me signed into the loony house? it wont work! as im not going anywhere without my preg tests!! my blood test is on monday {is that the beta?}anway ive got to go for now as dinner is screaming to be put on the table and DH is looking at me as if he has never been fed before!!! talk soon .. love jackie xxx

Kimmy · Post by **Kimmy** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 11:19 am

Hi Jackie, Just a bit curious about the blobbly things you found..did you start bleeding? Don't worry about implantation bleeding, I never experienced that on either of my pregnancies. Do you have any symptoms? Well monday is not too far off now, I am keeping everything crossed for you!!! Please keep me posted. Bye for now Lisa

JackieT · Post by **JackieT** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 12:47 pm

hi lisa. the blobby things were little small flat white blobs! no bleeding. guess what? tested again today!! -ive. AF due today. i have cramps all day. expect to come on later.... saying that, i had those wonderful twinges yesterday. thought i was implanting. GOD only knows whats going to happen from here, i would not wish this 2WW on my worst enemy. how are you at the moment? did you have to go private also or could you get it on the NHS? where are you having your treatment? we are in the homerton in london. mr setchell. app he was the queen mothers gynae. he did not want to accept me at first as i have high blood pressure! anyway, got to go, speak to you soon. love jackiexxx

Kimmy · Post by **Kimmy** » Fri Sep 06, 2002 4:19 pm

Jackie, I am so sorry that you had another -ve hpt, please don't give up hope, it's not over just yet!!! When I tested I +ve in March, I had really bad cramps and thought AF was about to start, I even took nurofen as the cramps were so bad. Some women don't test +ve until after AF is a few days late. I am sending you positive vibes. Yes, we did our IVF privately at the Chelsea & Westminster hospital. We partly chose there as it so close to where I live, and as we have to have so many visits whilst IVFing, it was the most convenient. I have not heard of yours, where in london is it? Queen mum's gyno hey, nothing but the best for you!!! Have a good evening. Speak to you soon Lisa

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