Any Oct/Nov cycle buddies?

[longbaygirl]

Hi Girls,

Sue, Jaye, my ET is tomorrow too (5 day transfer).

Typically, I can feel pre-AF symptoms already, so I'm trying not to get my hopes up too much. How many are you going to have transferred. Do you know what grade they are?

DH and I have decided to give this 1 more try and then go on to doner eggs. From what I've been reading doner eggs could give us a 50% - 60% chance of success, compared to 20% chance of success with IVF at my age (41).

Good luck

Joy

[Susan L]

Jaye & Joy

Loads of luck for tomorrow for your ET

im doing a frozen cycle so the embies are 2 day i guess as thats what they were froze at, its good to have you both to start the 2ww with need to keep each other sane i wonder if we could all have the same test dayes that would be good


Good Luck to you all

sue

[jaye]

Hi everyone,

Especially Joy and Sue - how did your transfers go?

Mine went good - two nice looking little 5 day embies tucked up inside. I keep saying to DH - hey, I'm pg with twins! Coz right now, I figure I am! They said they might be able to freeze one more - they will have a look at it tomorrow and let us know. We've never had frosties before, so it would be great if they could, but I'm definitely looking at that as a bonus more than anything else. I test the 26th.

I have pretty much decided that this will be the last time, so hopefully it's 3rd time lucky for us. I always wondered how you know when it's enough. But I feel like I do.

So, go little embies! Thinking of you all.

Jaye

[longbaygirl]

Hi Girls,

Sue and Jaye, hope we can all keep sane and not obsess (any more than usual) for the next couple of weeks. Anyway, we are now officially pregnant - even if only for a week or two...............

ET all done now. I had two 5 day blasts put back. The hospital has a 50% success rate with 5 day transfer of blasts so I am trying to keep hopeful.

I've also got to take progesterone for the next 15 days, two orally and one vaginally. I've never had meds from the same packet that can be inserted in more than one orifice before!

Lets hope we all have something to celebrate (with lemonade!) this Christmas.

Is anyone going to the london Cameo support group meeting on Thursday in Chancery lane?

Joy

[brinilass]

HI TO EVERYONE ON HERE,

I HAVE BEEN SPEAKING TO A COUPLE OF GIRLS FROM HERE AND THEY ARE GREAT.....TRY TO GIVE AS MUCH ADVICE/HELP AS THEY CAN.

IM CURRENTLY WAITING ON IVF FROM NUTURE IN NOTTINGHAM, I HAD MY BLOOD TAKEN LAST WEEK ON DAY 2 AND MY FIANCE HAD TO PRODUCE A SPECIMEN.

WAITING ON LETTER AS TO WHAT TO DO NEXT

HOPE EVERYONE IS GETTING ON GREAT WITH THEIR IVF ETC.

LOVE AND HUGS TO YOU ALL
KELLY X

[sophiejane]

Jaye and Joy,
Wow you have now joined us Tricia and I on the 2ww. You're lucky to have 2 day 5's put back as there is a much higher percentage rate with day 5.
I wanted to go to blasto but my clinic wouldn't let me this time (even though I'm paying for it!!!).
Joy - add your date to the test date thread, and are you having a blood test or doing a hpt????

Susan, how did et go. did the frosties thaw OK????

Tricia ... only 3 more sleeps for you. It gets so much harder towards the end of the 2ww doesn't it?
I'm back to being positive. had a lovely weekend with dp (managed to stay away from our friends with babies and just spent the time together). We have made plans for if it doesn't work which are very exciting (Greece New Year and Getting Married in April), but I am still visualising my embryos growing, talking to them daily and even think that I can feel their little heart beats (not sure whether they have a heart beat at this stage but I don't care I'm sure I can still feel it when I lie still!!!). I'm positive its going to be twins. I was so negative the last 2 cycles that I'm dertermined that I wont be this time.

Anna/ Julie - any news yet when ec will be for you???

Hi Kelly, thanks for your post. Hopefully you will be getting a positive view of ivf and we aren't putting you off too much. The mood swings and the injections can be horrible but it'll be worth it in the end ... and in a weird kind of way its quite exciting doing ivf.

Speak to you all soon .... 5 more sleeps until my BFP is confirmed (you see still got lots of PMA PMA PMA..... blimey its so hard though as I am so scared really )

[julesg]

Hi All

I have been away so I am trying to catch up with everyone. Sorry if I miss someone.

Jill - I am keeping everything crossed for you I was so sad to see your post this morning. Love and hugs

Toni - have you started stims How are you finding the injecting are you doing it or DH?

Sophie - Jane, Jaye and Joy - good luck for your 2ww - sophie I hope that some of your PMA rubs off on the rest of us. ( I pinched you underlining idea!!)

I am ok. Phoned for the blood test result this morning that is currently holding us up - Cariotype I think it is called. Anyway the result was still not in but the nurse chased it and said that it was incomplete and DH would have to give another sample. My heart sank and I thought that was it - no try this year, but she spoke to the doctor and DH's chromosome (46XY I think?!) is normal so it is up to us. So after a mild panic I will start injecting on saturday. This of course is causing a whole new panic about injecting. We have been shown what to do but have had no actual practice of doing it. I know that once we get the first one out of the way we will be fine - it is just that first one.

Then I will be scanned on the 29th - with EC on the 1st or 2nd of december - not sure how many days after ET is though.

Well - I will catch up with the other threads now.

Good luck and Love to all

Julie

[LTartan]

As I sat in Dr office today waiting for my ultrasound, and I told Dh I sure wish there was other people I could talk with. Dh Suggested looking online and here I am. I have read about all of you all morning and I am feeling better that I am not the only one~ Best wishes to all of you!

First I will let you know a bit about me and then I have a few questions if you don't mind. Forgive me I am very very new to message boards and things like this.

I have ttc for 4 yrs. 3 yrs ago I as hopitalized 3 times for severe hyperstim after being on clomid. It took a long time to recover from that. Our first round of IVF was Feb 04. negative. The Dr's did not increase the meds very fast secondary to my hyperstim case. We only had 5 eggs retrieved and only one made it for the transfer. I was incredibly dissappointed in only one making it. All I can think about is TWINS. I have wanted twins even before I knew of our infertity problem. My Dh is a twin and twin have skipped generations on both sides of my family.

Now I am day 12 on gonal F etc. I am waiting for the call to find out if they are going to keep on meds one more day or schedule my retrival. I am feeling dissappointed in my production again they say probably only 5-6 will be good enough for fertilizing. I just don't want a repeat of last times IVF. I was really hoping for some for freezing! For some reason I have a really hard time on all these meds. I mean I am really uncomfortable and it hurts to move around. If anyone can relate to this PLEASE let me know. I just do not want to have to go through all the meds and stimulating again if we have to repeat all of this again and hopefully not~

I was just wondering about somethings if anyone has any ideas or thoughts please let me know.

1. First I am not familiar with some of your abbreviations to name a few, EC ET, AF & HPT. I thinking some of them are egg retreivial and transfer.

2. What are some general #'s and sizes of eggs/follies people are producing? It seems my #'s are low and the Dr's say there is no average of course. Then when you ask about how big they should be for egg retrieval I keep getting not over 20 no not over 24 or 25. I have one at 19.5 today. I also hear ~ less then 14 is no good too. Does anyone know the ranges~

3. How much pain are you suppose to have with all the drugs stimulating etc? I feel like I have to hide my symptoms because of my hyperstim. They told me before they would cancel me if my symptoms get to bad. They told me I should only be feeling "uncomfortable" If often hurts to sit and get up and going the bathroom. Does anyone eles experience this?

4. What size range should your endo be in? Right now they are saying mine is big enough. It is only like a 6 has not increased much in the last few day. This is really important for implantation right?

5. Does anyone have any tips for going through all this. I saw posted there is a book out there you can get but what works best for you?

6. Do I qualify for being the Nov. cycle buddies group?

I look forward to getting to know all of you better and thanks for reading my long post if you still with me. Ü

Laurie

[anna.lewis]

Hi All
I haven't been on for a while so here's an update. Went for EC (egg collection) today and they got 23 eggs. Don't know yet how many are fully mature or will fertilise so fingers crossed. Am feeling very sore and bloated and hoping this will start to pass tomorrow. Have been told to keep an eye for symptoms of hyperstimulation which is rather worrying but hopefully it'll be alright. They also aspriated a small cyst and found signs of endometriosis but to be honest I was pretty out of it so didn't manage to ask any intelligent questions - thoughts were along the lines of "oh b***er, that doesn't sound good". Oh well, have never noticed any symptoms before so hopefully it can't be that bad. ET(transfer) should be Thurs or Sat depending on how things go.

Anyway, all the best to all you guys on the 2ww. Hang in there.
Sorry Laurie for not helping with your queries - need to go lie down for a bit. Will try to post again tomorrow.
All the best, Anna

[longbaygirl]

Hi Girls,

Sophie-Jane - I'm doing the hpt (if AF does not appear first) then the beta blood test. I know what you mean about clinics and their 'set' ways. I did not want to go to 5 days as I only had two fertilised eggs and I thought the risk of ending up with none for ET was too high. But, my hospital only does 5 day transfers, and I am paying too.............

Anna- fantastic result! You must be sore after that bumper harvest.

Laurie - welcome. The best way to get through all this is to get as much support as possible, from the boards and any local support groups you can find. I don't have too many answers, but I am sure others can help. If you try looking at old threads you might find out some useful info too.

I've only had one round of IVF and am lucky not to have had any problems/pain/side-effects at all - that's if you can discount my being a moody cow - but I think that is just me anyway! My understanding is that if you feel any acute or prolonged pain, then you need to seek medical advice - it should not hurt to stand or go to the loo.

I only had a local with EC (egg collection) and did not feel any pain at all, just a bit of discomfort.

I've been told that mature follies are 18 or over, not sure about an upper limit. My 9 follies ranged from 17 - 23, but only 4 contained an egg. I was also told that the lining should be 8 or over?

Yes, you do qualify for Nov. membership of the group. You are one of us now!

Good luck

Joy

[sophiejane]

Hello all,

Laurie .. welcome and I will try and answer some of your questions.
1) When I am being stimulated I also have a very sore tummy, it hurts when I walk, sit down and go to the loo. The nurses say its because the ovairies are so much bigger and advise me to take time off work and just lie down. For instance there is no way I could walk the dog or walk round shops.
2) The scans should show a number of follicles on each ovary. Mine always start off being about 10-12mm, the next scan about 15-18mm and then about 20mm +. This time my biggest was 25mm and my smallest about 10mm at my last scan before ec. 14mm or less means they might not be mature enough and they really do want them to be over 16mm for eggcollection (ec). Bigger than 24mm means they might be a bit too well cooked.
A few days can make all the difference, and I normally take a bit longer before I am ready for ec.
12 days on Gonal F is about normal before ec.
3) I'm not sure about the lining of the endo,as I've never taken much notice with this..... sorry.
4) ET = embryo transfer HPT = home pregnancy test AF - aunty flo (period)
5) I have read Zita Wests book which was really helpful. I also spent a day sitting in Borders on a big comfy sofa reading all the ivf books. Sometimes it scares you a bit though!!!!

6) Acupuncture is meant to increase chances of ivf being successful, and will help relax you.

7) Basically its hard going through ivf, I become very moody and miserable and also very scared for another failure. It is this board that keeps me going and stops me from getting really lonely.

During 2ww .... no baths, no sex, no housework, no gym etc, no swimming, no caffeine, no alcohol etc (although I am having the odd shandy!!!), shower backwards, 2 litres of water and a litre of milk a day.

9) You definitley qualify for a Nov cycle buddy. When is your next scan. i really hope those follicles have grown. I'm worried that you may be in too much pain, but as I said I have never overstimmed but have had a painful tummy.

Good luck and let us know how its going
From Soph-J

[Toni]

Hi Buddies

How are you all doing? So many of you seem to be on the 2ww now - it seems to have come round dead fast!! And its lovely to get our first BFP - well done Jackie!!!

I started stimms last week (thursday - can't remember if i said or not....... ) So far so good - so don't worry Julie you will be fine. im doing it myself. Just picture those little embies that will develop as a result and you shuld be well away!!

Had my first scan this morning and my follies are developing. I ahve about 8 on one side and 6 on the other so far. Is that good? I have no idea!!!!

Sophie - glad you are back on top form. I know what you mean about the baby thing - one of my closest mates had her baby on Thurs morn last week, and when i got the news on friday I couldnt stop crying!! I spent nearly all eve trying to stop the tears - to the exasperation of my DH!! 'He kept saying why can't you just be happy for her?'. which I was. But its hard to stop these emotions at times. And then she turned up at my house warming party with her 2 day old baby on saturday, which was sooo hard - I hadn't expected her to come! I was just sad for myself........
.................it was horrible. I felt like such a cow cos I wasn't crowding around her and her baby like everyone else!! but it was just too hard! Does that make me sound like a right *****??!

Tricia and Sophie - how are your 2ww's going? Not long now Tricia - are you getting excited?? Same for you Sophie - only a couple of days behind Tricia. Got everything crossed for you, and then some!!! XXX

Jaye, Joy and Susan - is the time going too slowly? hope everything is well and your embies are grabbing on tightly. looking forward to seeing a hat trick of smiley faces on 26th already!! XXX

Elizabeth - Hope it all went well today - GOOD LUCK for the result. Posted on the test dates thread yesterday but Im still thinking of you! XXX

Debbie - nice to see you are still hanging around. What are your plans now? keep in touch love XXX

Kelly and Laurie - welcome to the board and joining our group of buddies! XXX

Jen and Jill - thinking of you both and sending you both all the positive vibes in me. I really hope things work out for you guys!! PMA PMA XXX

Thinking of you all. anyone Ive missed sorry. You dissapear for a couple of days and you fall totally behind !!

Love and kisses

Toni xx

[Susan L]

HI ALL

Sounds like everyone is moving along nicely hope you are all ok

ET went really well for me yesterday the first 2 embies thawed survived and only lost one cell so they went from 4 cell to 3 cell and was told they looked good and im happy to still have 6 in freeze.
My test date would have been the 27th but as thats a saturday i would not get the results til the monday so decided not to do the bloods til monday how annoying so two estra days for me to wait

Loads of luck to you all

sue

[valpas]

Hi Girls,
I am also joining you. EC on thursday, mostly ET is on sunday or Tuesday.
Good Luck to you all.
Valli

[LTartan]

Hello everyone!

HORRAY JACKIE! SO this board has great vibes right! Congrats!

Thank you Joy, Soph J and Toni for my welcome and supportive information! It means the world to me! If anyone eles has any thoughts info, comments I would really appriecitate it. It seems during this round I feel better having data and knowledge if there is a such thing with IFV~LOL

DR. Called Yesterday. TOMORROW IS MY EC! I am so thankful, since I am not feeling well. I have 11 follies total but they range from 8 to 19.5 so I am really nervous about how many are good. Dr says maybe 5 good eggs. Dr is also worried about my endo # it was only 5.5 on Sat which is not enough. They put me on estrace for that. I keeping my fingers crossed for some embies to freeze and Solid TWINS implanted. My expected ET is 11/20 and PG Test is 12/1

Anna, I am thinking of you how are you feeling today? Hope your feeling better than yesterday. When is your ET going to be?

Soph J only 3 more sleeps before the big day! Loved the info you lent. I am so glad to hear someone else has tummy pain. Mine sounds very very similar. I take extra time off work b/c of it. But the dr.'s have not advised it or given me any reasons for what I go through. I have to think some of it must be part of my IBS. I just try not to move around to much, the more I stay still the better I feel esp. the day before EC. It seems after EC I feel much better. Thanks for the 2 wwk info some of it I was not aware of~ yikes!

Welcome Kelly! I wish best for you!

Valli! Your are only one day behind me can we chat? How are you feeling?

Julie best of luck with the injections. I never thought I could do it but when there is a will there is a way. I have dh do 2 out of 3 of them for me. I got this newer or at least to me GONAL F pen. That is great and easy to use for me.

Susan Thinking of you and your ET yesterday. Hope those embies attach good a strong!

Elizabeth 4 more hours and counting~ MY thoughts are with you. look forward to your post. All My fingers &&&& and Toes &&& are &&& crossed for you!

Best wishes to all the 2 wkers hang in there.

Thanks to everyone!
HUGS

Laurie