february friends?

debbieed · Post by **debbieed** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 7:30 pm

Hello All,
Welcome Wendy - you must have had a frustrating Christmas! At least things are moving for you now. Best of luck.

Af showed up yesterday so I was quite relieved as things should now be ok for my scan on Monday (fingers crossed). Just need to know now whether I begin injections on Tuesday (8th) or whether I have to wait another week. I do sooooo hope I can begin on Tuesday as I am so impatient. I just want to get onto the next stage and get on with things. I just hate waiting and waiting - mind you the 2 ww is the worse and I've got that to look forward to.

Hope things are going ok for you Minnow - having a cold won't make the sniffing any more pleasant!! Try to keep smiling!

Love
Debbie

minnow · Post by **minnow** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 9:22 pm

what a relief Debbie.. hopefully you are now on track to get going. fingers crossed as you say. I still feel as if Af is imminent but i could be wrong. am now on day 8 of downregging, so i imagine it's due anytime. i assume then that i will be at the hospital early next week for the first tests.

what determines when you start the injections? i thought it was from around day 3 or so of your cycle? if it were to be a week later as you say might happen, what would be the cause and does that then extend the whole process by another week? sorry to ask so many dumb questions. i had read quite a lot in advance of this, but now it's actually happening my head is spinning! it would really help to hear what governs each stage and what the likely timings are going to be from now on, if that's not too much of a pain.

seem to have let go of most of my rritability for now and have instead become very emotional. a little girl in a green woolly dress with sheep on sent me off into floods today!!

have a good weekend all and here's to a successful week ahead.

debbieed · Post by **debbieed** » Fri Feb 04, 2005 10:47 pm

Hello Minnow,
Glad to hear things are still going ok with you.
I too read lots of info and got VERY confused on my first treatment. There are 3 things which will determine whether I start injecting on Tuesday. The first is whether my uterus lining is thin (to be determined by the internal scan. The second is whether my hormone levels are ok (can never remember what needs to be what) as determined by a blood test. The third is whether the clinic has the capacity for me to begin, as I am really booked in for the week later.
My clinic has said that I need to be on the synarel spray for a minimum of 2 weeks, but there is no maximum time that I can be on it. Basically they will keep me on the spray alone until they are ready for me to begin injections. They only begin people on injections on a Tuesday as that fits in best with EC and ET.
My clinic is also reluctant to explain too much at a time so last time I went blindly from one appointment to the next whereas this time I have prior knowledge. I'm not sure if this helps as this time I do feel quite anxious.
At least I have this board to 'talk' to. I do find that it helps me. Feeling more anxious tonight - dh is away for the night so I have only got my own thoughts to drive me crazy!!

Don't worry about asking questions - everyone is happy to answer them. Unfortunately there are soooo many different protocols that it does get confusing. I guess it's nice to get a range of responses to give an idea of what to expect.

Keep up the PMA

Love
Debbie

minnow · Post by **minnow** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:33 pm

hi Debbie. hope those thoughts didnt keep your mind racing all night, with no dh to distract you! you have made things much clearer. i hadnt realised that you could stay on the spray for a while. does that mean that EC is not necessarily by day 14 of cycle? in other words that the whole cycle can be completely manipulated with the help of those drugs?

Af arrived for me (painfully) at about 03.00 this morning. this means that the hospital will want me in on monday I guess. depending on those factors you mentioned such as hormone levels and uterus lining, we may be more or less in synch!

it is certainly in my nature to ask a lot of questions when it comes to medical things so i must make sure that i dont drive hospital crazy! i think i just need to make sure that i dont feel completely powerless in this whole process, although i realise to a huge extent i am.

distracting ourselves with putting Ikea bookcases together, which again has proved my excess of irritability! the rest of the afternoon should be a breeze after that.

have a good weekend all.

debbieed · Post by **debbieed** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:25 pm

Hello Minnow.
Hope you managed to get the bookcases put together. I've spent moswt of the day getting frustrated with my Mum and Dad's computer. I've just got them on the internet and have attempted to install a new printer but have failed. I'll have to go back later in the week to have another go!!

Glad that you af has shown up. It would be nice for us to be going through the same thing at the same time. There don't seem to be many other people cycling with us at the moment. On my last cycle there were loads of people at about the same stage as me.

The clinic does seem to take complete control of my cycle - since beginning the spray I have no idea what days they count. I just know that I seem to go from one appointment to the next and just listen to what they say. I do clearly remember that I have to got to the clinic for a blood test 14 days after ET and on my last treatment cycle af showed up on day 13. I thought that it was going to start on day 12 just when I was begining to think that it was hopeful as I was getting closer to test day. This time I won't be so optimistic. I just can't wait for Monday to be over now and I know that I'll be upset if I can't begin injections yet. I should learn to be more patient!!!

Keep smiling

Love
Debbie

minnow · Post by **minnow** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 3:02 pm

hi. hope you got the news you wanted to hear today at the hospital and you're ready to start injections. they have given me an appt for tomorrow morning which i am now excited about! would have loved dh to be able to come so that he can be as involved as poss and watch the injections etc so he can help me out. he works in medicine though, so i am hoping he will be able to do it pretty easily enough. my excessive irritability seems to have passed for now and i'm feeling really energetic and positive...maybe it's the sunny day.

I read on another post from Wendy that she considers herself pregnant after ET unless someone tells her otherwise. i think that's a great attitude and i will try hard to adopt it.

I agree that it seems strange that so few of us are cycling at the same time.. march and april seem very busy!

stay positive and let us know how you get on today.

wendy30 · Post by **wendy30** » Mon Feb 07, 2005 11:03 pm

Hi Debbie & Minnow

How are you both? Minnow great news about af finally coming (well you know what I mean). Hope you get on ok at your appt tomorrow, quite right to get your dh fully invloved, mine comes along all the time, it saves them feeling its all about us, assuming they are ok with being involved.

Debbie, how did your appt go?

Sorry I've been quiet but my Dad is very ill, he is in hospital after suffering a stroke on Thursday, not sure how he is going to be. Still thinking of carrying on with this cycle, I have no appts till next Tuesday so another week to see if hes improving at all and to think about what to do.

Take care

Wendy

minnow · Post by **minnow** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:18 pm

hi all.
wendy, so sorry to hear about your father. it must be such a worry. i really hope that he recovers well. i imagine it is hard for you to know what to do about this FET. i guess you can only see how the next week goes and make a decision nearer to the time when you know more about your father's condition and see how your own emotional state is. take care of yourself.

my scan at the hospital this morning was fine. womb thin and ovaries fine. they showed me how to inject this morning and actually when i tried it, it was not nearly as bad as i had imagined. i am on a multidose which makes things easier. given that i have polycystic ovaries, they are starting me on a low dose to see how things go. i am booked in for my next scan on feb 14th (!) and we will take it from there. EC potentially on feb 21st. i cannot tell you how pleased i am to be moving forward. even though it may seem that we have been trying for a baby a relatively short time, the fact that we are doing something active is a great relief to both of us. i am trying to heed all advice about taking it easy and fitting in some time for rest every day. does anyone have any other advice about this stage? i am not drinking and have a fairly healthy diet and am of course trying to be as positive as possible!

good luck to all.
minnow

debbieed · Post by **debbieed** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:50 pm

Hello Wendy and Minnow,
Wendy, hang on in there and see how things go. People can make really good recovery from strokes - best wishes to you and your Dad.

Minnow - you must be very excited now. It really does help when you can feel that you are doing something (well it does me).

My hospital appointment went ok -except that I don't begin injections until next week

. I was really hoping to begin today but it is not to be. I now begin on 15th Feb with the injections with my next appointment for a scan on 22nd Feb. That will give me an EC of soemtime on week commencing 28th Feb - so Minnow I'll be about a week behind you.

I must admit I am feeling really fed up now. I'm having hot flushes (great fun!!!) and am feeling quite emotional. I have also picked up my drugs etc and am now feeling a bit worried about the injections. Last time I had Puregon with a pen to inject which was fine (my Mum, who is an ex-nurse gave them to me). This time however I have 'ordinary' injections which have to be mixed first. Just to complicate things I have to mix 6 pots of them!!! The drug is called Menopure. To make matters worse my Mum is going on holiday so DH will have to give them to me for a week! I really can't give them myself - I'm not as brave as some of you!

I guess that's my moaning over.

Thanks for listening

Love
Debbie

Sand · Post by **Sand** » Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:27 pm

Hi Wendy - I'm really sorry to hear about your dad. My dad had a stroke 3 years ago, and I although it was far from easy, with time things did get easier. It does take a lot of patience and strength from both sides, but you've just got to believe you'll get there. All my thoughts and heart is with you at this moment, because I do know how hard it is. Somehow, you'll find the strength the carry on.

Sandra x

minnow · Post by **minnow** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 11:12 am

hi all.
Wendy - hope things are improving or at the very least stabilising for your father. sending you both the very best wishes. i hope Sand's post gave you some encouragement, although i realise how hard it must be.

Debbie - I am so sorry you are feeling so rough at the moment. it is incredibly frustrating i'm sure to have to hold back a week when you are geared up to go, but i guess a week will go by quickly in the whole scheme of things and by then you will be in peak condition to go. Keep that PMA.
i just keep telling myself that all the discomforts will only last a short time and that every sniff/injection we have brings us closer to those babies!! i am hardly an expert on injections as I am only just about to attempt my second one in a few mins, but yesterday the way i approached it was to take a few calm breaths to steady myself and then i loosely pinched the skin on my tummy and gently pushed the needle in. it felt like that was the easiest way to get something firm to go into. i think i have it easier than you though as i dont really have any mixing to do..just some liquid into the powder then i'm set. good luck anyway.

had a difficult night last night as out with a couple of friends who are both also trying for babies. one was fairly insistent in her view that i should start IVF soon and when was i going to do it?? etc etc. i have only told 2 friends and no family as we think this will be the easiest way to approach the first attempt. my mother would worry and phone non stop and i really dont want to have to tell loads of people if it doesnt work. so fending off questions/ lying is not my forte!!

thinking of you all.

minnow

debbieed · Post by **debbieed** » Wed Feb 09, 2005 7:22 pm

Hello Minnow,
You seem to be coping well - wish I could say the same. Work has been really difficult over the past few days and I am having trouble keeping it all in perspective!

Coping with other people can be hard. We too haven't told many people. I just couldn't face the thought of telling people if it failed. I also have had some odd reactions form people when I have told them so I find it's better not to tell people if I'm not sure how they will react. My Mum and Dad have been absolutely great - it does help with my Mum being a retired nurse and having had a friend who went through IVF several times. My Dad just wants to make everything ok for me and he does find it hard to understand why it hasn't worked so far.

This time I have only told the same people I told last time so I haven't had to explain anything else.

Keep up doing so well with the injections and keep me posted on your progress.

Wendy, I hope your Dad is ok and that you are coping with everything ok.

Love
Debbie

suki · Post by **suki** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:02 pm

Hi everyone,

Just been reading your posts and you seem like a good bunch of girls....

My name is suki and I live in Vancouver BC Canada.

I am going ahead with my first IVF - starting Synarel on February 25 and would love to share this experience with everyone starting their IVF soon or those who have been there done it so to speak.

Good luck to all

minnow · Post by **minnow** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 6:54 pm

hi Suki and welcome! you and I are both first-timers with IVF so i hope i can pass on anything i pick up along the route. how are you feeling about the whole thing?

i have been on the Synarel for 2 weeks now which has been fine apart from some horrible tempers at the beginning! i am now on my fourth day of stimulation injections which i have slowly got used to. scan due this monday to see how i am responding. just praying that something shows up!

Debbie, how are things with you now? sounds great that you have such good support from your parents. must really help when you are feeling a bit wobbly. sounds also like work is taking a lot of your attention, which i suppose is good in some respects, but obviously exhausting. not long now until you start the injections and get going. hopefully that will allow you to feel you're progressing. let me know how it's going.

wendy - my thoughts are still with you at this very stressful time. do take care.

suki · Post by **suki** » Fri Feb 11, 2005 8:30 pm

Hi Minnow,

thanks for your response.

I am ok but very anxious - its almost like these 21 days since my last AF is taking an eternity - I just want to start with the Synarel and get on with it - at least then I am doing something about not having a baby. But I am trying to become a little more relaxed and patient in the meantime in order to be ready for what's in store.

It really helps talking to someone that is going through this process...because everyone else don't really know how you feel.

february friends?

starting sniffing Synarel on Feb 25, 2005

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