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Post by debbieed »

Hello All,
Sounds like everyone is getting on ok.
Minnow - I agree that the pessaries are a bit messy - the whole process is messy and undignified though - guess we just have to laugh through it!
I've been for my scan today and have come home feeling a little disappointed. Unfortunately I only have one small follicle on my left ovary and 5 much bigger and better ones on my right one. I know that I should feel ok about this (the nurse said that the ones on the right looked absolutely fine) but I was reallt hoping that I would have much better response than last time. Last time both ovaries worked fine (had 9 follicles and produced 6 eggs) so it looks as if the change of drugs hasn't helped me to have a better response. DH has been great and has continued to remind me that at this stage last time I only had about 5 follicles visible (although that was on both ovaries) so perhaps by my next appointment on Friday things will have moved along. The nurse thought that we would probably be looking at EC on Monday or pssibly Tuesday. To make matters worse my Mum (who normally give me my injections) is now away on holiday until late Friday so DH is giving me my injections. He's being great about it and is coping fine but I just feel like everything is going wrong this time :( . The clinic weren't worried about the urine infection or the flu so I guess I can stop worrying about it too.
I guess I'm just having a down day. Need to remnd myself that this is all par for the course and tomorrow will be better.
Thanks for listening folks.

Love Debbie
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2nd IVF March 2005 -ive
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Post by DebraP »

Debbie...you need some TLC!

The follies numbers sound fine, the nurse is right and experience on here suggests late changes/increases are quite common.

If DH is now doing your shots...well, it will help him be part of the real action won't it? as long as he's as careful about it as your mum has been.

Don't be despondent....you've got to a stage that many on the board would love to reach - your own follies, a fair number, positive attitude at the clinic and treatment on schedule for next week....it's all coming together. You need a huge hug from DH (who sounds really positive) and start smiling...it's all in the mind at this stage.

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Hello All,
I'm feeling a bit better about things today - more back to my usual self and trying to regain that PMA.
Debra - thanks for your supportive words. They did make me smile. I asked DH if giving me the jabs made him feel more part of things but he didn't think it made much difference. He does try to keep optimistic and is much better than me atjust taking one step at a time. I have a tendency to think ahead and see all sorts of problems.

I hope that everyone is still doing ok. I guess we'll soon need to have a 'test dates' thread as more of us move towards the 2ww.

Keep smiling everyone and don't forget that PMA.

Love
Debbie
Age 40
Dh 42
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1st IVF Oct 2004 -ive
2nd IVF March 2005 -ive
3rd (and final) IVF August 2005 +ive


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Post by wendy30 »

Hi Ladies

Hi Amers - hope you get started on your stims this week, you are right, the nasal spray can make you feel shattered.

Debbie - sorry you were feeling crap yesterday. I know what you mean about feeling that things were going wrong, I was a bit like that with my constant delays, it took 2 months rather than a couple of weeks for me to be supressed. I hate when things don't go to plan and you feel you have no control.

5 eggs wasn't bad last time from 9 follicles, my last EC I had 20 or so follicles but only 8 eggs (thats just me). Again very little logic, you always feel disapointed if theres not loads but it only takes one good fertilised egg! When you go back on Friday or even for the EC next week there could be a good few more!

My dh can always view all this ivf stuff more calmy than me, its cause men don't seem to be able to see the whole picture, he looks at a day at a time when as soon as I start the drugs I'm planning right up to the day of the result. It keeps me a bit balanced I think!

Speak to you soon

Wendy
TTC 7yrs, Me 35 (severe endo) DH 36
IVF nov06 8th time lucky BFP! - 1 baby boy
FET Aug o8 - BFN
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Good news - start injections tomorrow/Thursday!

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Hi girls

Wendy thanks for reassuring me that I wasn't becoming a hypochondriac & I was feeling tired cos of the sniffer!!! I'm sure dh thinks I'm a real moan at the minute! Was getting a lot of headaches as well & the nurse confirmed that it's cos hormones are so low but this will stop once we start injecting! Got some good news today from the clinic - that we start the stimulating injections tomorrow so it's all systems go! My friend's a nurse so she's going to give it to me tomorrow and supervise dh on friday so hopefully he'll be confident to do it himself after that! At least as you say he'll feel like he's contributing more!
Debbieed - I think we all have our bad days where we just need a big bear hug and some support! You sound very like me in that patience was never 1 of my virtues and I'm always thinking ahead! Thanks to my dh he puts things into perspective for me at times & makes me take 1 step at a time!(easier said than done at times!!!)

Anyway good luck to you all and keep your chins up!!!

BFN
Amers
35 yrs old
1st IVF cycle
PCOS, Grade 4 Endometriosis, 1 Fallopian tube and 1 functioning ovary
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2nd IVF Oct '05 - BFP
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Post by wendy30 »

Hi Amers

Great news about starting your injections today!

I had a few headaches with the down regging, to be honest its like temp menopause so you can feel pretty crap, hot flushes, headaches, no sex drive etc.

The first time I did ivf I had my dh do my first few injections but then started doing them all myself, I found that easier. Although my dh helped get everything ready and did some of the mixing of the powders and things. Can you have your dh at the EC, would you/he want to do that? I think for mine thats when it became a bit more real.

Hope you are doing ok.

Debbie - how was your appt?

Minnow - hope you are enjoying your few days away.

I am doing ok with the 2ww, although it feels like its been like forever already. thats a week now. The days don't seem to drag, it just feels like its taken ages to get to the halfway point. Anyway another day of telly viewing, spooks, then my friend is coming to make me tea as dh is ata conference tonight.

Speak to you all soon

Wendy
TTC 7yrs, Me 35 (severe endo) DH 36
IVF nov06 8th time lucky BFP! - 1 baby boy
FET Aug o8 - BFN
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Hello Girls,
Well things are not going so great for me today. I had to do a repeat urine sample which I took to my GP this morning. This afternoon I found out that my urine still has blood in it so the infection hasn't cleared up (sorry if this is too much info for you all!). Because of this the GP has sent the sample to the lab for further analysis and won't get the results for about a week so they can't do anything about it until then!!!!!!
Needless to say I'm REALLY worried about this. Although the clinic didn't seem at all worried about the infection when I told them about it on Tuesday I'm not sure what they will say now. Thank goodness I have my next scan tomorrow and I can talk to them about it.
I also had another blood test today to check my thyroid function which is also all over the place at the moment.
I feel like I am full of pinpricks and am well and truly fed up with my body and bodily functions being examined!!!!!!!
DH is trying to be supportive but I know that he is worried too - not helped by the fact that I've been really grumpy today.

I just hope that everything goes ok tomorrow and the clinic puts my mind at rest about the infection.

Thanks for the moan.

I hope that the rest of you are doing ok.

Wendy - I hope your Dad is still making progress and that you are getting through the 2ww ok.

Minnow - I guess you are still away. Hope things are ok for you.

Love
Debbie
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2nd IVF March 2005 -ive
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Hello All,
Well, I've come back from the clinic today feeling better about the infection. They are really not worried about it at all - seems like we just carry on as normal.
Unfortunately I was hoping that my scan would show that I had more than 5 follicles but it didn't. The follicles I do have are a good size and we are now all set for EC at 9am Monday :D . Almost there at last. I have all of my instructions for the variety of drugs between now and then and I'm now really excited. I know that the next few weeks are going to be a nightmare as I'm not good on the 2ww but for now the next stage is nearly here. I guess we'll be looking at ET for Wednesday as my clinic does this at 2 days. Just hoping that each of my follicles has a good healthy egg in it.
Keeping everything crossed.

Love
Debbie
Age 40
Dh 42
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1st IVF Oct 2004 -ive
2nd IVF March 2005 -ive
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Post by wendy30 »

Hi Debbie

Thats great news about Monday!

The 2ww is never easy but make sure youve got books, magazines and DVds there to amuse you, combined with long lies it will still be long but maybe you'll be able to take your mind of it a bit.

Have a good weekend.

Wendy
TTC 7yrs, Me 35 (severe endo) DH 36
IVF nov06 8th time lucky BFP! - 1 baby boy
FET Aug o8 - BFN
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Hello All,
hope everyone is ok.

Wendy - I hope things are still going ok with you. I know that the 2ww will be a long one but this time I'm taking time off work. Last time I had my ET on Thursday, took the Friday off work, had the weekend then went back to work on the Monday. I don't have a physical job (sit at a desk most of the time) but it can be stressful. I am already signed off work until 9th March and I'll se how I feel then. I may be desperate to get back to work, if not my Doc will sign me off again. I guess I'm resigned to loads of daytime TV, I've got some sewing and knitting to do so perhaps I'll do lots of that.

Kepp up with the PMA

Love
Debbie
Age 40
Dh 42
ttc#1
1st IVF Oct 2004 -ive
2nd IVF March 2005 -ive
3rd (and final) IVF August 2005 +ive


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Hi Debbie

Quite right taking the whole of the 2ww off. I am on holiday this time, I don't go back until a week on Monday, my test is on Thursday but I am bridesmaid at my friends wedding next Saturday so didn't see much point planning to go back on the Friday.

I always think with time off work you need to do what suits you best, some people are happy to work right through the 2ww. At the end of the day I really like my job but its just a job to me.

At least the oscars are repeated on Monday on Sky during the day so I will be watching that, don't fancy staying up till 5.30am on Sunday night, so thats another day taken care of.

Have a lovely weekend and in case I don't speak to you good luck for Monday.

Wendy
TTC 7yrs, Me 35 (severe endo) DH 36
IVF nov06 8th time lucky BFP! - 1 baby boy
FET Aug o8 - BFN
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Post by CC »

I'm really feeling for you all - it's such a tense time but try and stay as relaxed as possible. Good luck with all your 2WW and keep positive, love Cherylx
Third ICSI July 2005 BFP and praying it continues!! 6, 8, 12, 13(Nuchal) 20, 25 and 28 week scans successful! Emily Ann Cane born 8.4.06 - more beautiful than we could have imagined
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hi all,
how lovely it was to come back from a few days away and catch up on all that has been going on. just a quickie from me now as I am determined to support england in the rugby as my cheeky irish husband always says they're rubbish!

glad all seems to be going well on the whole. debbie, i hope all goes well for you tomorrow. so great that you're at this stage. crossing everything for you and hope they find a gorgous egg in each of those follicles.

wendy - so close to test day! sounds like you are taking it easy and resting which i'm sure is absolutely the thing to do. thanks for the tip about pessaries and bums.. shall try that and see how it goes! with this treatment, dignity is not something you worry about is it??!!

welcome to those who are new since i last posted. great t have more on board. best of luck with the treatment. will look forward to hearing more about how it's all going.

we had a lovely few days up in manchester and then Yorkshire. how right you are wendy about man U. they were useless!! still, always great to go to a match and i tried very hard not to keep jumping up and down. we then spent a gew days around york, harrogate and the yorkshire dales and moors which looked incredible in the snow. no walking!! all seen from the safety of a warm car. not sure how i am feeling now? boobs and in particular nipples remain a bit tender. have been having some dull aches and twinges in my stomach which feel very much like pre period pains, but I'm not sure whether to get worried about that or not. have had a lovely spoilt time at hotels but have also enjoyed walking round the towns / cities we've visited. just hope that the activity has been light enough. have found it really hard to assess just how easy to take it. so , just over one week to go until the test. do any of you test early at home or do you hang out until that official date? my test is 14 days after a day 3 transfer, so maybe a day early woldnt hurt! do most people wait until the blood test so that they get an accurate reading of the HCG??

lovely to be back in touch with you all...

take care.
minnow
age 38, DH 39,
TTC 15 months.
unexplained infertility
1st round of IVF feb 2005 -ve

Start downregging for 2nd cycle on May 2nd. natural conception discovered May 12th. OMG!
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Hello All,
Hope everyone is having a gentle weekend - I know I am.
Minnow - glad to hear that you had a good few days. I'm sure that any excercise you had will be fine. It's a shame we can't go away for a few days but dh's work committments and financial reasons mean that we can't at this point in time.
I know what you mean about it being tempting to test prior to the clinic blood test. On my last tmt I was planning to test the day before I went for my blood test but unfortunately I began bleeding on day 13 (very heavy) so couldn't face it. The blood test confirmed that the result was -ive. However, this time I plan to do the same - already have the test in my drawer!! DH would not approve if he knew but I need to keep it there to reassure me that I may need it. I know it sounds silly, but we all have our own things to keep us optimistic.

Have fun everyone and keep up the PMA

Love
Debbie
Age 40
Dh 42
ttc#1
1st IVF Oct 2004 -ive
2nd IVF March 2005 -ive
3rd (and final) IVF August 2005 +ive


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Post by DebraP »

Debbie - I'm posting this everywhere in the hope you see it before tomorrow :!: Good luck with EC.

Wendy - your comments about dignity not really applying whilst we go through treatment are spot on! I remember someone I cycled with twice last year (and miss, LL if you ever read the board, how are you?) posting that her consultant took a call on his mobile from his wife half-way through a scan and left her there, prong attached. Made me cry with laughter because it's so bloody typical!!!!

Minnow. Glad you had a lovely few days away. The only problem with hpts is that they are notoriously unreliable if taken early after tmt involving meds. If it makes you happy though, do it!

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Debra
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