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Discussion group for all topics related to infertility including preparation for pregnancy, causes, investigation and treatment of infertility.
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AliasR
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Post by AliasR »

Almaduke

Glad you could join us... I was wondering where you'd been!
Good work!

The sun is trying to come out here too... yep, you can now see the blue skies above 8) 8)

I have classes tonight and i really don't feel up to it...

Lp when are you getting the parrot then?
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Post by LittleP »

Never hopefully - I've said to DH let's see how the treatment goes and when we get a +ve then maybe we can talk again :D

I think I would agree to anything if I can get a +ve result :shock:

Sorry you've got evening classes - what a pain.

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:shock:

i thought i could teach the parrot a few naughty words in portuguese :wink:
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Post by LittleP »

Oh - teach us instead!!! :lol: :lol:

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Post by NickiMark »

HI girls, you been busy again whilst I was working!!

I am finding time so hard right now!! Not enough hours in the day!

I am seriuosly thinking of going part tiime!!
TTC 6yrs......Have jumped off the rollercoaster for now, too many BFN's and too much heartache, to keep going....Moving on to fulfil other dreams!!!
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Nicki

you're on and i'm off :( :( :( :(

Gotta go to classes, nearly 7 pm here!

Nice chatting! And a nice evening to all!

Rita
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Post by bubblymichelle »

I miss these chats cus I can't join in with being at work, I trust you all have had a good day.

Hey is anyone watching Bad Girls tonight?

Soap awards Wednesday Night

Thursday Footballers Wives

Good TV
Bring it On

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Post by LittleP »

And don't forget Desperate Housewives :D

I'm watching Chelsea tonight - sadly no John Terry :( :( :shock:

God, I'm depressed now :(

Nicola, if going part-time is an option go for it - I know that I found going through the treatment as a part-timer easier. I don't work now so it will be really different with the next cycle, I am a total lady-of-leisure :!:

Hope you are all alright.

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bad girls tonight? I didnt know it was tonight! I will be watching. I would of missed it if not logged on here!!

Yhanks chelle!
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Post by LittleP »

Think I'll watch Bad Girls - footie not the same without JT to look at :(

Maybe he's on his way here :D

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Post by AliasR »

Don't be sad LP... He'll come back!

I'm off now, tomorrow's going to be a very long day and i need a good night's sleep...

It's the academic week here and Alanis Mourisete's in town!! Can't believe i'm really watching her!...

A good night to you all and see you tomorrowzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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What a brilliant first episode - what a ***** :D :shock:
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Post by bubblymichelle »

Well did you all see Bad Girls/
Fenner is doing it all again.
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Post by Almaduke »

Hi Everyone!!

What an emotional rollercoaster of a day....

I talked to the acupuncturist today. She said things that I totally did not expect to hear and I broke down on the phone.....I hate doing that!!!

She told me that she doesn't like to provide treatments that work in conjuction with IVF because it goes against her principles. These are the main arguments that she made:

-what's the point of treating the body naturally if it is going to be "pumped full of toxins" or "synthetic drugs" as she put it
-if I'm not capable of becoming pregnant it's because my body is telling me that it's not healthy
-if my body is unhealthy why wouldn't i want to get it healthy first to provide my baby with the healthiest possible environment
-IVF only masks the underlying problem of why I am infertile...even if i did have a baby this way there would be the aftermath to deal with....my original problem would still be there
-whatever drugs that I was taking would end up in my fetus
-the IVF clinic treats everyone the same but everyone has individual problems
-they be able to get me pregnant though IVF but what about my body being able to sustain the pregnancy

I told her that I have a strong family history of cancer and she flat out said "don't do it". Pumping a body that is pre-disposed to cancer with estrogen is asking for trouble, she said (and I have to admit that this was one of my greatest fears with IVF).

She told me that with this natural therapy I would have to be committed to being patient because it wouldn't be an overnight fix.

We ended up on the note that I would make an appointment with her next week for DH and I to sit with her for an hour and discuss this alternative treatment route.

I just bought a book about Traditional Chinese Medicine so that I can understand this process more.

I feel so alone right now and don't know who to trust. I have to be totally honest and say that talking to her made me extremely upset but at the same time I feel like a huge weight has been lifted. I feel like someone really listened to me and treated me as a person, rather than as just another number, as they do at my hospital. I felt very comfortable and agreed with everything that she was saying....it just made sense to me. Was she just selling me? Was she being radical in her views? What do I do? I am extremely impatient to have a baby but I don't want to do something that will jeopardize my future health or my baby's. Who do I trust? Where do I continue my research? Do I put my IVF plans on hold for a year and try this alternative treatment for a year? I told her that I was almost 35 and she told me that I had 10 years to try and bear children. Do I take a chance with time?

She offered to have me talk to one of her former patients who was told by her doctors that she would never be able to have children and now, after natural treatment, she has two. I said that yes I would be very interested.

Finally, I want to stress that it is not my intention to offend or upset anyone on this board that his been involved with or will be involved with IVF. I am just repeating what I was told and what I really feel. This is my only outlet!!!!

I am in desperate need of advice....please help, I am so confused!!!
Almaduke

Me-34 almost 35, DH-36
TTC 1.5 years
Stage 4 endometriosis, tubes blocked
1st IVF - June/July?
Decided to try acupuncture treatment to unblock tubes before trying IVF
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Post by jamato253 »

:( Almaduke,

I am so sorry you are struggling....I don't know much about accupuncture but I know a ton about fertility treatment....I certainly will not down anybody's medical opinion but I believe that no matter how healthy your body is, though important, it isn't the only factor....I worked to make my body healthy as possible....I quit smoking after 10 years, I quit drinking (not that I was a heavy drinker, just socially but I made it a point not to drink while going through treatment), I quit caffine, I lost weight, I worked out....I am as healthy as an ox, but I still need to go through fertility treatment because we have a male factor....(understandable different from your issue) Our male factor isn't caused by smoking or drugs, or poor health....My husband had a mechanical issue that was corrected at a very young age to give him the best chance of having children of his own....But despite efforts he has low count and low motility......Therefore this is our only option...

My best advice to you.....Do ALL of the research you can, ask tons of questions, and make an educated decision with your DH.....
3rd IVF/ICSI June 2005 +ve Connor Xzavior Amato born 10/21/05 already dreaming.
4th IVF/ICSI Mar 2006 +ve Logan Tyler born safely 12/18/06

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