May 05 - 2ww

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Post by Sand »

Oh Emily .. If you really do feel that bad I think you need to get in touch with your clinic, if only for the peace of mind. Bare in mind that cramps and nausea are part of the deal for many, but I don't think you should feel like you're dying ! Hope you feel better soon.

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1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
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4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
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Emily I'm sorry to hear you are feeling so bad. I agree it is probably a good idea to call your clinic just to let them know and to maybe ease your mind a little. It still could be pregnancy pains.

I haven't felt anything in the past day or so. Not sure it that's good or not....

Feel better soon.
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Post by Emily Rose »

Thanks Sandra and Mil,

I woke up feeling better as far as the nausea and indigestion-type abdominal pains so not calling the clinic. I'm thinking I may have had some sort of food poisoning in the last couple of days because I also had diarrhea a couple of times. That perhaps coupled with side effects from the progesterone, which I believe was causing in me some of the indigestion cramping.

So, I am glad about that, but a bit earlier today I have had what feels like none other than AF cramping, and I am really getting worried... 5 days away from testing now.

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Post by Emily Rose »

Actually, I should probably clarify the nausea references I made about my symptoms in the last few days. I'd have to say it was more like stomach pain than nausea. Not sure if that makes any difference.
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Post by LittleP »

Emily

Hang in there and try and stay relaxed. Like you Maci wasn't too well during her 2ww and she tested positive yesterday :D

Wishing you loads of PMA, hugs and Baby Dust.

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How are all you other 2wwers?

I hope that the time is going quickly for you and that you are getting plenty of rest and feeling ok.

Let us know how you are getting on.

PMA to you all

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Post by Sand »

Hi LP ... Nothing to report really .. Halfway there today, and counting !

Hi Emily ... Good that you're feeling a little better. Others have had AF cramps throughout the 2ww, and have tested positive so I'm afraid you'll just have to hang in there !! I thought I very briefly felt nauseous earlier - but now I think I'm just wishing symptom on myself ! I feel nothing today, other than the odd stomach cramp. Hope you're managing to keep yourself occupied. It's quite warm here today - if you sit directly in the sun, out of the breeze ! I've just been sat out for half and hour with my cats. They love it when I play out with them !

Mil - Onthe flip side of the coin, lots of others have also felt nothing and tested positive. It's all so crazy ..

Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
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Thanks LP and Sandra,

You're right about Maci's symptoms--thanks. ...And believe me I've gone back and looked at exactly how she described them! ;-)

Oh, it's just that my life and my relationship are so very complicated and problematic. (A relationship stranger than fiction really and hard to even talk about, not that I would do it here on this IVF forum.) One of my worries is that I'm in France without a real job. Well, I am a freelance editor for a publishing company in the States, but I really really need to find work in France and not having much response. Only one interview possibility, and even with that one I'm not certain to be chosen for the interview process. Really scary to be an American looking for work in a country that has 10% unemployment!

And then there's the insane desire for a child that I've had since my early thirties when I was married to my wonderful Bobby who could not have children (he passed away in June of 2001 at the tender age of 41)--he had not even the cells that produce the sperm! :-(

And so here I am at 42 (two months away from 43) trying finally, desperately, knowing I'm at the end of the road--certainly in France where 42 is the cutoff for IVF. (In U.S., I couldn't even begin to think about IVF cause I can't afford it there.) Getting pregnant could be the one thing that could make me forget all my other problems.

In short, I'm sorry again if I seem so negative. It's just there's a LOT of other sad stuff going on for me behind all of this. After a while I ask myself if I will be able to find the courage to face one more setback in life. I'd better stop; I've got tears rolling down my face now.

Thanks to all of you for being there.

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Emily

:shock: Words seem fairly insignificant right now!

You are a brave and strong woman to be going through all this with what you have had to come to terms with already.

I am sending you loads of PMA, hugs and Baby Dust - I wish you so much success with this treatment and hope that you get your positive news.

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Hi to all the 2ww Mayflowers

Hope you are all doing well and not going insane. I will hopefully be joining you on the 2ww next week.


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Emily Rose - Hang in there. I am an American living in Germany - moving to Vienna. I moved here as well for my husband and was in the same work situation as you. I did not speak a word of german and was a consultant....I was very desperate to find a career again when moving to Germany and felt totally lost. The only advise I can give you - is to take one step at a time. You have A LOT going on in your life right now - take one day as it comes - and it will work out - and you will be so much stronger at the end of every trial/challenge. Think of all the positive things and your accomplishments - and how brave you are!!

If you want to 'chat' send me an email (it should be in my profile).
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Post by Sand »

Hi Emily ... Don't you worry about seeming negative. We all have these days/weeks. To lose your Bobby at such a young age, to be in a foreign country, no prospect of a solid job ... no wonder it seems like it's you against the world. It has got to get easier Emily. Tracii's advice - taking it slowly one day at a time - is all you can do.

Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
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Post by Joanne104 »

Emily

Your story is so sad :( but like the others have said take it one stage at a time, and things will start to improve (everyones luck has to change sometime!)

Take care, sending you lots and lots and lots of PMA that things work out for you - in every aspect of your life

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Post by Sand »

How are the 2ww Gang this morning ...??? Anything to report ???

Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
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Post by Emily Rose »

Tracii, Joanne, Sandra, and everyone,

Thanks so much for your kind words of support.

To update you 2wwers on my symptoms if you've been following, they had gone away yesterday but came back during the day (the abdominal discomfort and stomach pain), and they were there on waking up this morning. In addition my abdomen feels really hard in places--I'm wondering if this could be my fibroids being affected by the meds perhaps.

By the way, I'm on not only progesterone but estradiol (it's meant for oral use but my clinic has prescribed me to take it vaginally all the same). Are others on estradiol, too? If not, perhaps that's the culprit for my symptoms?

In any case, I called my clinic in Paris. The secretary told me to call the "medecin de garde" (the on-call doctor) and that there was a phone number on my release slip from after EC. So I call the number, and I get a nurse who argues with me, very harsh, telling me that there is no such thing as consultation over the telephone and that I need to see a doctor. I tell her that I feel it's important to see an IVF doctor and not just any doctor. And she just repeats the same thing. Oh, she was "affreuse" (dreadful)! Why can't the French just be NICE?!?! (Sorry, not trying to offend any frenchies; but I do feel the French need to improve their "customer service". Too many are just plain old arrogant and mean and uncaring.)

So, then I called back the secretary--at least I know her and she is nice. I told her I was not pleased at all with the treatment I'd just received. She kindly told me to come to the ER at the clinic (what ms. nurse affreuse should have told me from the get-go!).

Wow, guess I got that off my chest!

So, I guess I'd better get moving if I'm gonna get over there and finish up hopefully in time to leave with my DP for his country house this evening.

I may not be online this weekend because he only has dial-up from the country house. But if I can, I will, to y'all know what the ER said.

Hope everything's going well for all you other upcoming 2wwers. Hoping to see some more smileys next to our names on the list. :-)

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