Hi Rose - sounds like you are getting some sound advice - we are also in a similar situation - DP is 39 and has two children, vasectomy done 12 years ago and I am nearly 37 - we decided not to take the risk of time 'running out' on the egg front and went straight for the ICSI option - we are in the middle of a cycle at the momemt, with egg collection heopfully mid-next week. The IVF dr's have been very supportive and were quite open to also discussing the reversal option, but even at my age, given the time constraints, recommened ICSI.
Good luck!
Jo
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Good luck with your cycle Josie 
You made the right decision, I wish I had known how fast things can go when we were in that situation, and that the clinic had been more open and firm about the risks of waiting...
still who knows I test on Thursday and will be happy to welcome any baby into our family now I have gone the donor route.
Love to you bigJ
You made the right decision, I wish I had known how fast things can go when we were in that situation, and that the clinic had been more open and firm about the risks of waiting...still who knows I test on Thursday and will be happy to welcome any baby into our family now I have gone the donor route.
Love to you bigJ
POF+autoimmune+dh antibodies,5.05 DIVF IM M/c 7.5 wks, DIVF+TESE at ISIDA - son 08/06
FET ISIDA: 12.07.07 m/c 8 wks b.ovum, 17 Dec 2007- BFP triplets OMG!!!
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FET ISIDA: 12.07.07 m/c 8 wks b.ovum, 17 Dec 2007- BFP triplets OMG!!!
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Just been away for a short break, so sorry that I haven't replied sooner to all these good messages. Just to clarify, I believe that the damage to dh's crown jewels (testis etc) can be done when the sperm is retreived using PESA or TESA methods - and that's why Vas reversal specialist may decline to operate if IVF/ICSI (PESA/TESA) has been attempted. Anyway I'll know more shortly, after consultation.
Take care everyone
Esor xx
Take care everyone
Esor xx
Hi Esor,
I am new to this sight and can't believe I have found so many people in my situation!
I am 36 my dh 50. We have been together 12 years. We were on a waiting list for NHS reversal for 2 1/2 years. He had had a vas 10 years before the op and so it was unsuccesful. Problem is he now has grandchildren! Not great for me as he has his offspring and was less than enthusiastic about haven't interference to his trouser region.
We had 3 donor inseminations last year, but I found it very difficult, so have done nothing for a year. We even started the process of adoption. Now dh has changed his mind, so it looks like retreival and ICSI.
I am desperately sorry I waited for so long for him to make his mind up. But what can you do?
I am not a weak person, but this whole process makes you feel like a victim! It also makes you doubt your own decision making abilities as everything is in the hands of someone else- dh, doctor.
I agree with taylorjools- vas is far too easy.
Anyway, I rang hospital today and have made an appointment to start the IVF/ICSI process. There are so many strong people on this site, I thought if you can all do it, so can I. And now I know there is always someone to tell!
Lynne
I am new to this sight and can't believe I have found so many people in my situation!
I am 36 my dh 50. We have been together 12 years. We were on a waiting list for NHS reversal for 2 1/2 years. He had had a vas 10 years before the op and so it was unsuccesful. Problem is he now has grandchildren! Not great for me as he has his offspring and was less than enthusiastic about haven't interference to his trouser region.
We had 3 donor inseminations last year, but I found it very difficult, so have done nothing for a year. We even started the process of adoption. Now dh has changed his mind, so it looks like retreival and ICSI.
I am desperately sorry I waited for so long for him to make his mind up. But what can you do?
I am not a weak person, but this whole process makes you feel like a victim! It also makes you doubt your own decision making abilities as everything is in the hands of someone else- dh, doctor.
I agree with taylorjools- vas is far too easy.
Anyway, I rang hospital today and have made an appointment to start the IVF/ICSI process. There are so many strong people on this site, I thought if you can all do it, so can I. And now I know there is always someone to tell!
Lynne
Hi Lynne, yes the board is full of strong people but we're also recipients of support too, hence so many of us considering the board a lifeline.
There are nearly always people in a similar-ish position, makes you realise just how many people have fertility issues one way or another.
Just to throw a different light, yes a vasectomy is easy vs. female tubal ligature BUT at least with a vas. reversal is quite common and often successful. I had a tubal as my ex-DH would faint at the sight of a needle (we had no children). Problem is, I want children with DF and tubal reversal is rarely worth attempting when as old as mine (15yrs ago). I wish to God I'd insisted ex-DH had that 15min op.
Debra
There are nearly always people in a similar-ish position, makes you realise just how many people have fertility issues one way or another.
Just to throw a different light, yes a vasectomy is easy vs. female tubal ligature BUT at least with a vas. reversal is quite common and often successful. I had a tubal as my ex-DH would faint at the sight of a needle (we had no children). Problem is, I want children with DF and tubal reversal is rarely worth attempting when as old as mine (15yrs ago). I wish to God I'd insisted ex-DH had that 15min op.
Debra
Me: 44, DH: 31
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
My sister- in- law has had the same thing. She has 5 children, but I still think she has made a mistake.
My dh says that if he had his time again he wouldn't have had it done. But I think he probably would. You don't predict the end of a relationship. His 3rd child was an 'accident', so he thought it necessary. As it happens this 'child' is now a 25 year old soldier, expecting a baby, with his wife in November.
It is very difficult to look into the past. For all I wish I had children, I wouldn't have had them in my 20's for the world, even knowing what I know now. And it would be the easiest thing in the world for me to just walk away. Don't think I'll go along that thought line again....
I too hate needles, but I'm just going to have to get over that one! Although I am just at the beginning and it will be a while before I have to do it- I think I would prefer the needle to the spray. It must do nasty things to your throat.
Lynne
My dh says that if he had his time again he wouldn't have had it done. But I think he probably would. You don't predict the end of a relationship. His 3rd child was an 'accident', so he thought it necessary. As it happens this 'child' is now a 25 year old soldier, expecting a baby, with his wife in November.
It is very difficult to look into the past. For all I wish I had children, I wouldn't have had them in my 20's for the world, even knowing what I know now. And it would be the easiest thing in the world for me to just walk away. Don't think I'll go along that thought line again....
I too hate needles, but I'm just going to have to get over that one! Although I am just at the beginning and it will be a while before I have to do it- I think I would prefer the needle to the spray. It must do nasty things to your throat.
Lynne
Snap Lynne 
I'd not have kids my 20s either even if I had my time again. I've had a fantastic life so far, I really feel like I've done it all.
If I'd had kids 'early' I wouldn't have gone back to uni and got my MA, I wouldn't have been transferred to Australia for work, I wouldn't have done my 2 years of backpacking and I wouldn't have met DF, who is very, very good for me. I should add, that having been blessed with an IVF baby aged 39, I feel I've had the best of both worlds.
I've always used Synarela nose spray to down-reg but never found it a problem with my throat. I know sometimes people comment on an after-taste but for me it was never unpleasant. The needles vary. If you use Puregon or another stim drug with an auto-injector, you'll laugh at how easy and painless it can be. I worked myself up into a tizzy before the first time but it's a no-brainer after that first go.
Good luck,
Debra
I'd not have kids my 20s either even if I had my time again. I've had a fantastic life so far, I really feel like I've done it all.If I'd had kids 'early' I wouldn't have gone back to uni and got my MA, I wouldn't have been transferred to Australia for work, I wouldn't have done my 2 years of backpacking and I wouldn't have met DF, who is very, very good for me. I should add, that having been blessed with an IVF baby aged 39, I feel I've had the best of both worlds.
I've always used Synarela nose spray to down-reg but never found it a problem with my throat. I know sometimes people comment on an after-taste but for me it was never unpleasant. The needles vary. If you use Puregon or another stim drug with an auto-injector, you'll laugh at how easy and painless it can be. I worked myself up into a tizzy before the first time but it's a no-brainer after that first go.
Good luck,
Debra
Me: 44, DH: 31
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
Game Over.
Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
For those of you out there who are still considering Vas Reversal Vs IVF/ICSI - I've found an excellent website today, www.infertile.com.
Dr Silber (based in St Louis, Missouri) developed (alongside some colleagues from Brussels) Intra-Cytoplasmic Sperm Injection (ICSI). He examines, on his website, pros and cons of both treatments and explains each in detail in simple, easy to follow English.
It's extraordinary how much you can learn, from both this message board and from the internet.
Good luck josiemack with your cycle - and good luck Lynne with your appointment.
Esor x
Dr Silber (based in St Louis, Missouri) developed (alongside some colleagues from Brussels) Intra-Cytoplasmic Sperm Injection (ICSI). He examines, on his website, pros and cons of both treatments and explains each in detail in simple, easy to follow English.
It's extraordinary how much you can learn, from both this message board and from the internet.
Good luck josiemack with your cycle - and good luck Lynne with your appointment.
Esor x