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((((((((((((BIG HUG)))))))))))))))))). Thats the best I can do!

I really feel for you Nes. I don't know much about the treatment you are having so can't really offer any advice. It must be very frustrating though by the sounds of it. I'm sure I have all this to come in a few months time. And whinge all you like, thats what this place is for.
I would not wish all this on my worst enemy but at least reading about everyone elses experience makes me feel normal for having these feelings.

My DH just left an hour ago for Australia, he's going home to see his family for a month. So I have had more tears! Missing him already. He was so worried about leaving me as I've been a mess the last few weeks but I tell you what............he said it makes him feel better knowing I have found this board and have all of you to talk to. He knows you will all look after me!
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Post by Tiger »

Terri sweetie, Tiger here.

Just wanted to let you know that I understand exactly what you are going through right now. My hubby and I are separated too and I have another 54 sleeps to go before we are reunited again, I do curse my body to no end :evil: , only if I didn't have this problem......... :evil:.... . Hey, you can drop in at Aussies/Kiwis thread sometime too; visitors are always welcome, where is your hubby staying in OZ? Melbourne weather today was comfortable cool 18c; ah, the invitation also extends to everyone else as well, of course!!!!

Take care everyone, I think this thread is a good thread for all. We all have rubbish days; dealing with infertility/IVF is a real challenge - if we need to close up and don't want to socialise, that's our thing.

Cheers, Tiger
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Post by KTF »

Clair - seeing my friend last night was actually great. She is 10 weeks (another one who wasn't even trying) and I am the first person to know. It was really nice talking to her about her plans for the future and she has sure read up a lot already. We did talk about my situation but only "if's" I haven't told her we def need IVF. She was very positive which I thought would get on my nerves but it didn't. I know that she is going to be one friend that will be there for me when I am ready.

So no tears, no wishing it was me and not her (just wishing it was me too). She thanked me for being such a nice friend about it (think she feels slightly embarrassed because they aren't married! Couldn't care less about that). I am glad that I have managed to handle it all so well. Not sure it this will continue once she starts showing but it is a good start.


I guess I have to accept I will have good days and bad, today is a good one so I will hold onto that for now.

Hope all you girls are having a good day too. My consultant appointment came through today - 10th Nov. I am just hoping I can "catch" my friend up and have a few months overlap of maternity leave together - but I think I am getting carried away with positive vibes! Better stop it before I come back down with a bump!

Hope you girls have had better days today too.

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Hi Tiger

My DH is going to Brisbane (his home town). I really hoped he'd be able to go back with some good news to tell them and really felt like I let him down ( i know I shouldn't feel like that but I do).
I went to Melbourne a few times when I lived over there for 6 years. Its a great place. Perth was my favourite place. My DH was in the Australian Army so we moved around a lot! Darwin.......probably my least favourite (no offence to anyone who lives there) I just need better shopping and nightlife than that!
Is your DH in the defence force too (since he's away so long?).

While I'm at work, I am almost myself and as soon as I walk out the door its like this huge cloud hangs over me and I don't even want to talk to anyone. Can't seem to snap out of it this time.
How has everyone elses day been?
Well done KT for being so good with your friend. I'm not coping with that side of things at all so any tips that would be great?
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Post by clair55 »

Hi Girls

Feeling a bit more "normal" today, not so aggressive.

Terri- How are you doing today? Here's hoping a month flys by for all of us. Just remember you have got us to talk to.

Indiana - It makes me sick that you could be treated like that when there are so many children in this world that need to be loved and are brought up in abusive homes by their natural parents. In my job i have come across health visitors and the red tape there is before a child can be brought out of an abusive home is a joke.

Nes- Sending you big hugs nes about ET being cancelled. How did you get on today at clinic?

Kt- Really glad that things went well for you with your friend. Prehaps things may be a little easier now that you know for sure she is pregnant. I helped my friend through her pregnancy and was the first person to see her daughter(besides her DH) it really wasn't that difficult once i got over the initial "Why not me", although there were moments.

Well i'm off.
Take care girls
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Post by KTF »

Hi Terri,

I think things are a little different for me. Me and DH knew that when his vasectomy reversal failed that we would always need IVF/ICSI, so we have never had the months of trying and disappointments that this must bring (other than hoping for a miracle!) I also don’t have to deal with the “why me”, I got together with a guy who I knew had a vasectomy, although children we no where near as important to me then as they are now, and I always had the opinion that we could always have treatment (think I was a bit naive!) Of course there is always in the back of my mind that once we get started they might find something wrong with me.

Maybe once I start treatment I won’t cope so well, but the way I see it with my friend is that I would love to be pregnant right now, so it is nice to share her excitement and talk to her about it all, at least something is happening in a way. She will be the expert once I get pregnant, so my pregnancy will be a breeze. Also part of how negative I was feeling before was worrying how my friends would be with me, I know this is one friend who will never treat me any different no matter what the outcome. She is a very get up and go person, and although her life is going to change dramatically she is determined to still do a lot of things she does today. We have already talked about her getting one of those ruck sack things to put the baby in, so that we can still go away on walking weekends and climb mountains.

Don’t know if any of that helps, but just try to focus on the positive things about your friends being pregnant. (I know easy to say and I hope I’ve not offended you!)
Hope you find plenty of stuff to keep you busy whilst DH is away. My DH has been in America for a week with work, I’ve had my mum, dad and sister for tea one night, and my friend for another. I am such a baby!

Clair – Glad your not feeling so angry now. We have to cope with so many emotions don’t we, and they seem to change each day! Your right about it being easier once I know for def about my friend, can start dealing with things, rather than wondering how I will deal with it.

What’s everyone got planned for the weekend? I have got some friends round tomorrow night, we are all going out for a meal and then a few drinks, then they are all staying over. Not looking forward to the hangover on Sunday!

KTx
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Post by indiana »

Hi Girlies,

How are we all doing today?
Tiger thanks for telling us about wounderful weather in OZ, its a bit pants over here, at the mo Cornwall is covered in thick fog and i have had to put ponies winter rugs on!!

Terri, I know what you mean about only coping for a short time, i can cope with a short visit from friends/family but after a couple of hours i cant fake it any longer. Im also getting really angry with people when they just dont get it!. the trouble is im a bit of a people pleaser so i wouldnt say anything to offend intentionally.

Clair, Good to read your not as mad, not that it does us any harm, i think it is our brains way of making us fight for what we want. I kinow if i didnt get really mad, i would have given up years ago, and would probably be dribbling in a corner somewhere.

Nes, I am so sorry your body is messing you around, we put so much time effort and emotion in to getting to EC i cant imagine how p----d off you must feel. 43-50 follies is a fantastic amount though you deserve a round of applause for all that hard work, its no wonder you are knackered and bloated, if you can get lots of rest and drink loads and loads of water.
As for the rows with DP, my DH works around 100 hrs per week (farmer) so as you can imagine i dont get to see him alot unless he is asleep but for the past 3wks every time we are together and awake we have the most horrendous rows. I think everone going through tmt does its got to be the most stressful thing we will ever have to do.


Diane, Congrats on you wedding anniversary, me and DH had ours last week 6yrs, god knows how we manage it with all we have to cope with but we have. Arent we clever bunnies :shock:

got to go now guys
My mother is coming round to say all the wrong things and generally do my head in :?

Lots of love and pma

Indiana.xxxxxx
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Mothers visit didnt last long and didnt go very well.

She turned up in a shitty mood and didnt speak at all for about half hour, then she just gets up and say's "looks like ide better go!".
When i asked her whats wrong she kind of lost it and went off on one about me and my sister spending time together ( she just moved to cornwall from Manchester). Now maybe I'm being stupid but it looks like my mum is jelous (spelling) of me being friends with my sister, does anyone else think that this is stupid.

I am so angry with her, the last time we fell out like this we didnt speak for 10 months. My tmt is going to start soon and i really need her support, if you cant count on your mum who can you count on ???????


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Post by clair55 »

Hi ladies

Well weekend here. Thank God

Terri - Are posts must of overlapped yesterday. Please do something this weekend i know it's probably the last thing you want to do, why not pamper yourself I know it's not going to solve anything but for a very short time it might make you feel better. You will feel much worse on your own and the weekend will drag forever. I'm going into Birmingham with my mother tomorrow to do some shopping and Sunday I'm tackling my back bedroom which at the moment resembles Steptoe's tat yard! Tonight I plan to demolish the bottle of malibu i've brought. Something i haven't drank in years but for some reason just fancy it.

Indiana - The saying you can pick and choose friends but not families is soooo true. Right, families where do I start My family as there is only my mother and I (my Parents divorced, haven't seen or heard from dad since 14 and not at all bothered.) not much problem see one uncle, occassionally hear from cousin. Last time i heard from cousin he decided that the day i got my BFN would be the day he would send me an e-mail with pictures of his new born daughter with a thank you for the baby clothes i had brought!!! That just was the final kick in the guts i tell you. I don't think i stopped crying all night. It wasn't malicious it's just that he is so wrapped up with his self he has not one thought for anyone else.

My DH's Family- he's youngest of 4 both his parents are dead. We fell out with his brother and his wife two years ago over something really petty. They think very highly of themselves and don't really involve themselves with the rest of the family. The sister in law in question had two miscarriages and then went on to have twins natually. I recieved a letter from her last year way out of the blue telling me what a bad time she had had with miscarriges( no doubt, this I knew) and no matter what I went through it would never be as bad as her experiences. This letter was sent two months after the birth of her daughters and a week after I was told I would never have children naturally and she was aware of this fact. The rest of DH's family are brilliant and have been really supportive.

So I hope this has made you feel a bit better about your family. They can drive you mad and make you sooo angry.


Hi to all you other ladies do try and enjoy your weekend. I felt kind of down today but i'm really going to try to have a better day tomorrow.

love
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HI Everyone,

I'm feeling slightly better today. I had a really good day at work, lots of positive stuff and it distracts me so much, I even end up having a good laugh!

then this evening my mum made me dinner. She's been lovely and really understanding. And of course the amazing dessert she made me cheered me up even more! I talked and cried to her a bit and then felt better. I told her I'm not talking to anyone anymore except the people here as everyone else makes me feel worse. I need to protect myself.

Clair, I am going to take mum and my sister out to dinner tomorrow night. Dad's away so I said I'd treat my mum. I'm hoping to take her to Hatton Farm at some point as I think they have a craft fare on. And my friend (one who's not pregnant and not likely to get pregnant) rang me today after hearing the news about 2 of our friends being pregnant. She's being really sweet as well so things are looking up. I think she may be a support for me, I'm not sure. So I will keep busy! Its funny to think of you shopping in Birmingham, I go there all the time. When (and I mean WHEN) we have babies one day, we should meet up for a coffee! While we're all going through this its nice to keep anonymous but once we get our dream, we should think about it. And anyone else in the Midlands.
I can't believe what your sister in law said to you! Of course a miscarriage is terrible but if you end up with babies in the end, you are also blessed.
I am lucky that my parents and my parents in law (who are in Oz) are all really good.

Indiana, you really do need your mums support through all this. Why not meet up for lunch with her or something and have a talk to her about what you are going through and tell her how much you need her. Maybe she doesn't realise how hard it all is. It does seem odd, her reaction to you spending time with your sister but theres always more to things and if you talk to her, maybe she will explain to you.
By the way, the weather is not great everywhere in Oz, my DH called me this morning from Brisbane and said its pouring rain!
I don't blame you for getting angry when people just don't get it. Thats the thing that makes me feel worse which is why I am isolating myself. When they don't get it, that makes me feel bad/guilty for feeling like this. I feel bad enough without anymore negative feelings!
What does DP stand for by the way?

KT - as if you or anyone on here could offend me, of course you didn't. Its the one place where we can be honest and everything you say helps. I have my up and down days. Sometimes I think I can cope and be positive, other times I want to move to Bermuda and pretend none of it is happening.

I always feel better when I come here. Thanks again everyone.....you are all fantastic.
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Post by Smita »

Terri,
isn't your HSG scheduled sometime this week??Let us know when..
Wishing you lots and lots of luck.. Hope they find your tubes are working fine.

DP is dear partner.

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Thanks for that Smita. I don't know half these abbreviations, keep having to check the list!

Yes my HyCosy (as they call it at my clinic for some reason) is scheduled for Wednesday, very sweet of you to remember me! I am dreading it. I am terrified they will find my tubes are blocked. My sister is taking me as my DH is away. Will let you know how it goes.

How was everyone's weekend by the way? I had a nice weekend after thinking I didn't have that much planned. Spent most of it with my mum. Went out to dinner with mum and sister. Then today went shopping with Mum and spent some money.......that always helps! Then my friend came round (one of the few who's not pregnant!) and we talked about going away next weekend. I want to take my dog somewhere where he can go for a swim. He normally goes to a dog swimming pool but I won't go there at the moment as the woman there has just got pregnant and thats all she talks about. so to make up for it, I'd like to him to a beach for the weekend. Any ideas? I'm in the midlands so anywhere we go is over 2 hours drive!
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Post by indiana »

Goodmorning Monday morning peeps,


Terri Goodluck on wed for your HyCosy, i had one done about 7 yrs ago, the nurses were fantastic and did everything they could to relax me.
I got in a real state and a bit panicky. Easier said than done i know but try and stay as calm as poss it makes the process a lot easier.

As for doggy swimming we have got some fantastic beaches in cornwall but a bit to far to go i think. As its now October we are allowed to take dogs and horses on our beaches again.

What time is your appointment on Wed?
Ive got my first appointment with our new consultant at 5.15pm (strange time) on Wed, It is starting to affect my sleep, i keep thinking that he will find more things wrong.

I have given up on my mum until after tmt, she doesnt want to understand, She is one of those people who can never be wrong and thinks i am always wrong. When we got turned down for adoption she said " thats dissappionting" then when we got our appointment for ivf she said" "you havent got the money anyway". I find it hard to find my PMA at the best of times and i think having contact with her will make it a lot harder. My sister is being very supportive so im going to stick with the people who make me feel better, including you lot :lol:

Hope everyone else is ok.

Indi.xxxxx
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Hi Indiana

Thats just how I feel...............keep thinking he will find more wrong with me on Wednesday and stressing about it. My appointment is at 3pm. I'm very nervous but normally manage to relax with these kind of tests.

I think you might be right about your mum after what you said. It is better to surround yourself with positive people and limit contact with negative people.
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Hi Girls

Hope everyone had a good weekend.

Terri - I think meeting up after are BFP's is a fantastic idea. I will keep you to that one day. Good idea going away for weekend. We went to Devon a couple of weeks ago. Beaches were lovely and it took about 2 1/2 hours to get there. Not sure which beaches dogs can go on but i'm sure if you had a look on internet you could find out. It will do you the world of good.

Good luck for HSG on Wednesday. I had one last year it was just a bit uncomfortable and of course the usual loss of dignity but after all the stuff we have to have done i'm passed caring now. I hope they find your tubes are fine. Whether they are or not try to look at this as ruling out a cause and being another step closer to treatment. Once they know the problem then they know what kind of treatment is appropriate for you. Hope this makes sense. After finding out mine were knackered ( right tube blocked and left tube gone, was removed last year with most of left ovary due to ovarian cyst hence fertility probs) I was able to move on to the next stage and knew our option was IVF. It was not knowing for definate what was wrong that was difficult. Will be thinking of you on Wednesday at 3 o'clock.

Indiana - Hope you had a good weekend. You must be kept very busy living on a farm. I don't blame you about not being around negative people you really don't need it. Good luck with your appointment on Wednesday I'll also be sending some positive vibes to you at 5.15

Take care all
clairx
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Next cycle with ICSI, hopefully April 2006 = BFN
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