ClearPassage manual physical therapy improves IVF success?

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ClearPassage manual physical therapy improves IVF success?

Post by maggie68 »

Hi, I'm new to this forum and need help.

After 5 m/c on our own, we decided trying to get pregnant through IVF and PGD. I just went through my 1st IVF cycle and failed :cry: . Two embryos were biopsied for preimplantation genetic diagnosis (PGD) and are both chromosomally abnormal. It is devastating. My doctor now wants me to start 2nd IVF as soon as my period shows up.

I found this ClearPassage manual physical therapy on the web. In its website, it claims that the therapy can help women increase their chance of getting more eggs in an IVF cycle therefore increasing their IVF success rate. So I'm thinking whether I should try this therapy before my next IVF cycle to increase my chance of success. Here is its website:

http://www.clearpassage.com/ivf.htm.

Have any of you heard of this therapy? Tried it yourselves? Any relatives or friends who have heard of or tried it? The therapy is quite expensive, about $4500 for a 5 day treatment, 4hr/day. Insurance won't cover, same as IVF. The clinic headquarter is in Gainesville, FL. Three other locations are Newport Beach, California, New York city, and Ankeny, IA. No clinic is near where we live. If we decide to try it, we'll have to travel to Florida for the treatment. After what have happened to us, we are now desperately wanting to try anything working to have a baby. But we also want to make a wise decision as much as we can.

Also, is anybody out there who had multiply miscarriages on their own but succeeded through IVF and PGD? How many IVFs did you do before you get to that good egg?

Please help. Any information would be appreciated.

Maggie
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Post by Sand »

Hi Maggie

Welcome to the Site. I'm sorry you've gone through so much already. I've had a look at the Site you quote (although your link doesn't work). I haven't heard of ClearPassage before, but it looks as though they treat unexplained fertility or known causes such as blockages, adhesions or 'some uterine conditions' that may cause miscarriage. I wouldn't have thought that chromosone abnormalities would come into this category ? I may be way off the mark, but I don't see how the 2 tie together ..? I also don't see how increasing the number of eggs you produce will solve the problem. (I'm sorry, but I don't know anything about PGD). Is it that some embryos are affected, whilst others aren't ?

Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
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Post by maggie68 »

Hi Sandra,

Thank you for your reply. In the patient stories online, there was a woman who had two miscarriages after IVF (which may or may not caused by chromosomal defects). After receiving the therapy, she had a successful pregnancy. You might be right that the therapy itself and having a good egg may not come across. But the reason why I am thinking of going for the treatment is because that I had two traumas before I started trying to get pregnant. One was from a car accident, left me with massive back muscle and ligament injuries and permanent herniated discs. The other one was during a traction treatment with an chiropractor for my back. My back, hip, and upper thigh muscles and ligaments were massively injuried for the second time. Because I had constant muscle spasm right after the injury, the chiropractor smashed my pelvic areas trying to stop the muscle spasm. He smashed my pelvic areas where the two ovaries sit to a point that those areas hurt for at least 1 yr after I stopped the treatment. Since then, I always wonder what a chiropractor can do to your body and have never overcome the fear of going to one. My point is if my ovaries had been traumatized, there might be blood flow issues to them or scar tissues. And secondary infertility might arise from all these. Maybe the therapy can help in this matter. Also, if the therapy can help me with my back, it may help me with fertility as well. Afterall, it might be my whole body responding badly which showed up in my ovaries with bad eggs produced. Unfortunately, doctor can only treat what they can see.

I really hope that someone out there can share their experiences of going through this manual physical therapy with me, no matter good or bad. If the therapy has been there for 10 years, there got to have some people who had tried.

Maggie
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Post by DebraP »

Maggie, having looked quickly at the site, I'd tend to agree with Sandra. What they say they can help with doesn't seem to be related to your particular problem. The press article I read through seemed to concentrate solely on adhesions which, yes, are a major source of infertility.

If you like and trust your fertility doctor. Why not schedule an apt. to discuss the treatment? go armed with the materials from the site you consider relevant. Maybe google them etc. If this tmt is so amazing and has the credibility the site claims, your doctor will know all abou them surely? Maybe offer to send your doctor some info to read before you meet? Yes they'll charge you for the apt. but it will be considerably cheaper than the 4500 course fee + flights + hotel.

Good luck
Debra
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Dates: Aug 02 - May 06
Tries: 5 fresh + 4 frozen.
Results: 1 daughter, 2 m/c, 1 ectopic.
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Post by maggie68 »

Debra, thank you for your suggestions. I asked my doctor’s nurse the other day about this treatment and gave her its website address. I’ll check with her next week and see how she feels about it and if she can set up an appointment for me to talk to my doctor about this.

For those of you who may have trouble with the website I posted in my 1st message, here is the website again. Sorry, the other one did not work well.

www.clearpassage.com

Thank you all for your support and wisdom.

Maggie
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