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Post by Luga »

Mrs. M It costs me this situation. This is the time to advance in my work place, and I can’t go further. It’s not that I don’t have ambitions; I have a lot, but baby its priority. I must be absent for long time in company, so I must be pleasure to stay here where I am.
Terri: I’m living in Kosovo, if you heard about it. I think you heard in 1999, the war that we had here. Our life is yet in transition. I have ordered Zita West book, I’m waiting. They said that it takes from 9 to 36 days to arrive. I’m not so good in English, but I think you understand me. Thank you.

But I’m sure it’s gone be better, I have feelings now.
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Hello terri, mrs M, Luga and everyone!

My feelings are very plain today (no feelings?). I don't know how to put it (may be kind of numb). I like the phrase 'beware of hormone women', it does affect us definitely. If I had done it earlier while at work I would have not resigned my job recently, ha ha ha!

I work in a preschool and have lots of responsibilities. I was fine all the while but lately I have been very grouchy. I think its due to hormone and the fact that I am meeting a number of pregnant parents everyday who share a lot with me about their pregnancy and how they cope with their other children. I put up a very smily face for all of them and listen to them pretending to enjoy their stories (of course I care for them but that conversation is not something I can enjoy). I feel heavy hearted everyday when I leave my workplace thinking of all these lucky people and why I m not one of them. It hurts when children run into me for hugs and cuddles as I m not sure if I will be able to have one of my own. The real problem is my two teachers who are also pregnant. They are always on medical leave due to their pregnancy and I will have to relieve them everytime they are gone. This really makes me mad! I can't say no as I m the one in charge of the centre. I am happy for all these people who are parents and pregant but I don't want to be treated like as if I have nothing much to worry about and hence can help all these pregos :twisted: (sorry if I sound terrible).

I am expected to be perfect in all that I do but lately I m either forgetful or just too tired. Thus I decided to resign the job as I am going to start my new cycle next month. It is the best as I m afraid where would all the hormone and frustration lead me. I have already received two feedbacks from the teachers that I have been naggy about the plans that are due and too pushy on certain matters. thats my job but I don't know if I had really been nagging or pushing them too much. but I feel better now that I don't have to worry about my job while cycling in Nov.


Terri, continue with the PMA it's one of the important thing that we need to hold on to.

Mrs M I agree with you about the people who consider small mistakes as great sin. Especially with all the emotions we are going through you won't be surprised that I have been making a couple of silly mistakes like posting the toddler room teacher's message in preschool room and typing a circular dated 31/9/05 :wink:

Lugo, I agree with you about its too much to do two things at a time when we are going through IF treatment thats why I will go for it if only my cycle fails (praying hard it shouldn't) just a plan be so that I wont be devasted like the first time.

LOL of PMA, PMA, PMA
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Post by KTF »

Hi Terri,

My treatment hasn't started yet, I am still waiting for my first consultation. It is next Thursday though, so not long to wait now! We already know we need ICSI due to MF so we are just waiting to hear what tests they want to do for me, and then we go on the waiting list (going private so hoping it won't be too long, but will be after Christmas now).

Chel, Luga, Mrs M - sorry you girls are feeling depressed at the mo. As you will see from some of the posts above, I felt like you did about a month ago. Just hand in there, both Terri and myself are feeling a lot more positive now, Nes certainly is, she posted on the early part of this thread and now has a BFP. I know it's not easy but I guess I am just trying to say hang in there - the feelings do seem to lift and we just have to cling onto that PMA when it arrives.

Hope you all have great things planned for the weekend. We are off to a wedding on Sat and staying over at the hotel, really looking forward to that.

KTx
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Post by Mrs M »

Hi Ladies,

Hope all is well, and everyone is having a better day today. Im having an ok day today. I have decided to try and adapt to the PMA, really think I will do me a lot of good, and to also concerntrate on the next few months getting healthier etc by using the zita west book, so hopefully will feel all re-freshed for a new cycle.

I do totally understand how you are all feeling. Suppose we can't help what it feels like to be annoyed by work colleges etc especially when we are very hormonal.

KTF - Hope you get your appointment soon, fingers crossed you won't have to wait to long. Good luck with your tests and everything, and remember lots of PMA.

Chel - hope your feeling a little better today, I know what you mean by having no feelings, kinda hard to put into words how it feels. You seem to be coping very well due to the fact you deal with childeren and meet pregnant woman everyday, you deserve a medal...LOL...try to have lots of PMA, will be hard, but no harm in trying is there..

Luga - Im sure you do have lots of ambitions, I do agree baby is 1st priority, its my only priority at the moment. We will do it.. I hope your Zita West book arrives soon, so sorry to hear it takes such a long time to arrive, I think your English is fantastic. Hope your feeling ok today.

Terri - How are you today, How long till your hubby gets home now, bet you can't wait can you, silly question I know. DH has suggested we go to Florida for new year this year rather than Vegas, due to vegas being so expensive that time of year, we will need the extra cash for treatment to commence in Jan (fingers crossed) as were going private next time.

have a fab weekend all,

love Mrs M xxx
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Post by ogr1 »

i keep comming back cause no one understands.
at times it is hard to be here.
cause there is 99 % CHANCE THAT I WILL NEVER EVEN BE ABLE TO EVER TRY TO GET PREGNANT AGAIN.

but so much has been shared here. and have been able to be so open..
when i dont feel like being with any one but wanting to i know i have friends here.. :)
we werent blessed with our babies to raise here but we our blessed with our grandaughter
and all of our many adopted and foster children that touch our lives
and i am glad to add that our 6th grandchild will be born this spring!!!!
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you know there could be a market for this "beware hormonal woman"
We could do t-shirts, car stickers.............whatever people want he he he!

ogr, I have read plenty of stories where people have been told they won't get pregnant and then they do. I know that probably doesn't help but whilst the chance maybe small, there is still a chance.

Mrs M.....good for you adapting the PMA. I just hope mine sticks around so I can keep encouraging you!!! I realised today that the people I work withprobably didn't agree with my colleagues outburst yesterday. One of them commented it was obvious I was joking. I must have hit a raw nerve. I felt better though knowing I'm not seen as a cow!
DH is home a week tomorrow hurray!!!!!!!!! He gets home at lunch time so I'm going to put on a lovely buffet lunch for him, all organic and zita recommended! Just the two of us though.
I have been to Florida a couple of times. It is one of my favourite places in the world and I am dying to take DH there as he hasn't been and whilst he's 44, he is a big kid and would love the theme parks.

KTF, good luck with your consulatation, let us know how it goes. With MF, is DH taking all the supplements that often help? Enjoy the wedding.

Chel I know that no feelings feeling. Its pretty crap. I was like that a few weeks ago for a few days. Just felt totally numb, wouldn't speak to anyone, wouldn't see anyone. I think you probably did the right thing in resigning. Now you can just focus. I'd love to do that as well. Your job though would have a real effect on you when you are going through this.

Luga, I have heard about Kosovo. Things like that are in the news a fair bit over here. Your English is good by the way! I hope you get that book soon. I read it again the other day and picked up some more tips. It really helps.

better run, i'm babysitting tonight for my lovely nephews! My friend works as a designer for aardman (Wallace and Grommit) and has sent me some freebies for my nephew.... he is going to freak! can't wait to see his face.
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Post by Chel »

Hello girls,

I am feeling great today, I can't believe I m full of PMA. Thanks Terri and mrs M for your support on my work blue. I agree that we people need a lot of PMA to keep going, I think we all are such strong people and thus have been given such a difficult role to play in this world. I am sure we can make it.

KTF, I m starting my ICSI this month, first scan on 28th and then goes the real rollercoaster. I am also posting at November buddies. Everything crossed for you to be able to start you tmt asap.

Mrs M, thanks for your wonderful words I will remember that. I m glad that you have decided to keep up the PMA. Good job!

Terri your DH must be very lucky to get such a lovely wife (buffet). I'll never share this info with my hubby for if I do he would want me to do that everyday as I wont be working soon ha ha ha (just kidding). Have a great time with DH.

Ogrl, I 'm sorry that you feel down, Like terri said there is always a chance. I do get such feelings often but now I have decided to: Expect the best, prepare for the worst and take what comes. I 'll keep everything crossed for you and all of us here. Hugs 4 u :wink:

I am not going anywhere this weekend as its pretty hot here but have decided to get some real sleep and good food.

:P :P :P
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Hi Chel
I just remembered when you said its hot that you are in Singapore. I LOVE Singapore! I have been a few times on the way to Oz and I think its one of the most gorgeous places. The people are so lovely and friendly. I loved Sentosa so much.
I'm vegetarian and I found some vegetable rolls there which were fab. They look like a bun but inside theres noodles and veges. I used to get them from a bakery on the main road where all the hotels and shops are.
I can't remember if you said you are actually from Singapore?

I'm so glad you are feeling good today, thats wonderful.

I loved what you said..............................................................
'I think we all are such strong people and thus have been given such a difficult role to play in this world. I am sure we can make it'
That is such a great way to think of it. Makes me feel like we are all special.

I'm lucky as well as my DH is lovely. He looks after me well. Thats why I'm crippled with neck pain at the moment. He normally does the washing, ironing and vacuumnig, plus hes trained in massage. And he's been so nice through all of this. Men don't feel it the same we do I don't think but he always gives me a hug when I'm sad and listens to me rambling.

hope everyone else is well today?

I still have PMA but my neck is so bad, I can't do much this weekend. I think I may need some time off work.
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Hi Everyone,

Hope all is Well.

Terri, - Hope your ok. less than a week till DH is home. You had better get a move on with your buffet (only joking), what a lovely idea, mind you I would have done something similar, bet you have all next weekend all planned out. I have been to florida twice, one of DH favourite place, he is a big kid underneath his skin. Theme parks are awesome, firework displays are fab, everything is fab fab fab there. Last time we went was 5 yeears ago for 10 days of our honeymoon before we went on our cruise, thought we needed aweek to relax after all that walking. Think im going to swithc my veggies to organic just like Zita recommends. didn't realise you were a vegetarian, bet your really healthy. How is the non caffeine going?? Im struggling with that one, going to try decaff tea tea and coffee! hope you have enjoyed your weekend babysitting with Wallace & Gomitt goodies, least she didn't get caught in the fire!!

Chel - glad your feeling loads better and full of PMA, I like you speech part on our role of play, I could not agree more. Not long till you treatment commences now, how are you feeling about it? your scan will go well, stick the PMA, Im trying too. Didn't realise you were from Singapore, I have heard such great comments about Sinagpore. My best friend loves it, she goes often due to working for British Airways long distance flights, I make the most of her travels by asking her to grab me some great bargains etc.

Org - hope your feeling a little more chirpier today,

Hope you all have had a great weekend. I had a nice weekend, went out with friends, chilled abit and had family meal Sunday, I seem to be feeling a little more normal now by feeling a little more socialable, but there again suppose we have good days bad days.

Remember ladies lots of PMA.

Love to all...

Mrs M :) :) :) :) :)
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2nd FET June 06 Test 15th June 06 BNF!!!!
3rd attempt hoping to start in a few months at a brand new clinic!!!
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Hi Mrs M and everyone.

I have had a painful weekend with my neck! I have already left a message for my boss saying I probably won't be in this week. Even typing this hurts!

Hate to be the one to tell you this but Zita says Decaf is as bad as caffeinated coffee! She said its cos of the way its processed! I drank decaf for the last few years, since I started trying and then read this! I was gutted. She said tea is not as bad but doesn't really say how much is okay. I have now gotten used to green tea, just found one with pineapple and grapefruit flavour which is nice. Its an antioxidant so is meant to be really good for you. I am so used to this now that I have gone of normal tea. however, I miss coffee sooooo much, even more than vodka! I had a cup of coffee this morning (first in a month) just cos af is due anyway. I have one about once a month as a treat!
I have done really well I think with giving up coffee ( I LOVE coffee). The way I do it is everytime I am tempted I remember what Zita says. 'Caffeine can reduce your chances of conceiving by 50%' and that alone stops me grabbing the coffee jar!
This better be worth it thats all I can say!

when I met DH he said I was the most unhealthy vegetarian he'd ever met! He encouraged me to eat more veges and I think now I am pretty healthy. I have my moments though where I'll go for months eating crap! Since reading the Zita book, I have done better than ever. I'm even eating salads which I used to hate.

babysitting was great. Mum came with me cos of my neck so we had one child each. I had the 4 year old as I don't have to pick him up. He's so gorgeous and he loved his wallace and gromit pressies. It helps having two lovely nephews.

Glad you had a nice weekend. Sounds like you have travelled a fair bit too. Where did your cruise go? I did a short cruise round spain but would love to do one in America.
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Hi All,

Hope everyone has had a good weekend. I had a nice weekend, but there again at the moment everyday is like a weekend for me, as I have not been working since begining of sept, company I had been working for went into voluntary liquidation. so at the moment Im kinda enjoying my free time, gets boring somedays, well it does for me as i have never been out of work before, never used a hoover so much in my life, but making the most of it.

Terri - how did you hurt your neck, ive not read that you have described how you did it. Thanks for info about decaf, how gutted am I. I will have to read the book inside out, not really got round to reading all of it yet, with all my free time you would have thought Id have read it all by now!
I have been to a few different places. We went on our honeymoon for 3 weeks, had 2 weeks florida, drove round abit, then had 7 days on cruise, we went to tampa to board, then onto Mexico, Grand Cayaman Island & New Orleans, I recommend a cruise, but not everyone likes them. Seems like you have travelled a bit too. What is your favourite place.
I will have to try these green teas. where are you shopping for the flavoured ones, just wondering as I have tried green tea before, yuck, but I will drink it, will just take time to adapt to the flavour.
One of my friends had her baby yeserday, little Girl called Mystee, how lovely, bless her...
If your not at work this week, you may find the week will fly by before DH gets home, bet you can't wait, How long has he been away for.

Hope everyone else is ok,,,
has anyone got anything to report, not long till xmas now is it... Yikes, must get my act together.

Love to alll
Lots of PMA PMA PMA,
Mrs M :) :) :) :)
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Post by KTF »

Terri,

DH is taking the vits and minerals, also trying to cut back on caffeine and alcohol and has no choice but to eat organic because that is what I am buying! He has MF because of a failed vasectomy reversal – basically two zero counts. So not hopeful that the vitamins etc will result in some swimmers in his sample, but maybe that it will improve the quality of the swimmers that are hiding away somewhere!

I’m off for some blood tests tomorrow, so fingers crossed all will be well there.

I heard something from a friend that my best friend said. We always go away between Christmas and NY and they were discussing that. She said what will happen when one of us has a baby but the others don’t. Her husband said, well we will just take it in turns each year to have NY at home. She said no way, and he said well they had to say that in case it was them first. Maybe she is not ready to be a mum, but also doesn’t seem to be ready to make any adjustments to her life should her friends get pg. Made me laugh but I thought I bet the minute she decides she is ready she will fall pg straight away!

Hope your neck is feeling a bit better. I suffer a bit with mine because of a couple of car crashes I have had, but doesn’t sound half as bad as yours. Hope you get it sorted in time to do the buffet and welcome your DH home!

We have a friend who is an unhealthy veggie – doesn’t like veg! He mainly lives off a diet of chips and crisps! On the outside you would say he is very fit as he is a marathon runner, but knowing what he eats I am sure he can’t really be that fit.

Chel,

I agree with your words like the others say, but especially like “Expect the best, prepare for the worst and take what comes” I have struggled with trying to have loads of PMA, but then worried I won’t not be prepared if it doesn’t happen first time. I think you have summed it up quite well. Not sure how to be prepared though, hopefully won’t need to be! Best of luck with your next cycle, not long until the 28th now!

Mrs M – keep up the PMA! Don’t get too familiar with that hoover though, you will out us all to shame.

KTx
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Post by Mrs M »

Hi KTF

Just want to say good luck with your blood tests tomorrow, nothing to worry about. Wont be long till you commence your treatment if consutlations are about to start, It will fly by. I kept saying to myself after my 1st consultation the weeks are going to drag, they passed by that quickly I coudn't believe I was in my 2ww, thats the part that drags (it sucks... :twisted: ).
My DH has just started his vitamins too, he ensures he takes them first thing in the morning. our fertility problem is male factor.
Our 2nd consultation is 10th Nov, to see if we want to use same clinic as 1st time, not to sure as what we want to do, if we go to a different clinic we can release our 3 frozen embies and my medical notes, which is good news.
I will keep everything crossed for you tomorrow, not that you will need it.
best of luck.
Mrs M xx
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1st IVF/ICSI Aug 05 Test 14th Oct BFN
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Hi Mrs M and KTF

before I forget, I just had a look. The green tea I got is twinings (grapefruit and pineapple flavour, the best one I've found) and Jacksons lemon flavour. I got them both from Sainsburys. Okay so they are not as nice as coffee but if you find a flavour you like you will very quickly get used to drinking them. After a week I went to have a normal cup of tea and it made me feel sick. Since making all these changes with drinks and diets I am no longer bloated (I used to be all the time) and plus not falling asleep in the afternoon anymore!

My neck is still bad. Doctor has signed me off for a week. I'm going to be so bored!!!!!!!! I shouldn't be sitting at my computer now but boredom has overcome me. Its an RSI injury from about 3-4 years ago. Worked as a travel agent in australia and ergonomics were not great. Work had to pay for treatment while I lived there but once you leave the country you are not able to claim from them. So it costs me a fortune in osteopath fees here. I don't stress about that though as going there also helps to relax me as they do massage too. Sometimes it gets me down as it will never be fixed but compared to infertility probs its a minor concern.

Mrs M, its a good chance for you to relax being off work and get nice and healthy (on green tea he he he).
I would love to do a cruise like that! The short cruise I went on was soo fantastic. I think Las Vegas and Florida are probably my favourite places. Anywhere in America. I always said I should have been born there. I just love the place. Its like I come to life when I visit there. I love the people there too, so friendly! I loved Hawaii. And Singapore is so gorgeous but I might not go back there as I've been a few times and feel like I've seen everything. I remember when my first time there, I kept saying wow every five minutes its so beautiful. Whats your favourite place?
I'm on valium 3 times a day so feeling a bit tired now. He wanted me to take painkillers but I'm not going to, not after all the work Ive done getting my body healthy. Hopefully valium won't do any harm. We won't be trying again for a few weeks so it will be out of my system by then.

I love the name Mystee. My DH's best mate just had his baby yesterday, have called it Edith.


KTF, hope your blood tests go well. I know what you mean about your friend. I have ran out of friends who can get pregnant now.........seriously! They have all got there except me but at least I don't have to stress about hearing someone else is there. I have 2 left who are not but one can't think of it at the moment has she's having a renal transplant (and we think we've got problems! this puts mine into perspective) and the other one needs a man first.

I used to live on Crisps years ago too. Then I moved to Oz where people do eat more healthily I think so I followed their example. PLUS, the crisps over there are horrible!!!!!!!!! I missed walkers for ages when I moved there. Hope that doesn't offend any aussies but your crisps are poor! Or chips as you call them over there. The only ones I liked were twisties but I could take them or leave them.
Let us know how your blood tests go. I'm off to watch daytime TV!
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Hi everyone, I was a little busy lately as I was settling a lot of things at work. I requested for early leave from my boss and was granted. Yesterday was my last day at work. They surprised me with a farewell dinner. Ok it was kinda hard to leave the children (I'll miss them :cry:) but I m glad that I dont have to worry about the year end concert, parents-teachers conference, program evaluation and setting up new classes (thank god now I can just think of my tmt). I do feel a little guilty that I have left the centre before the end of the year with all these coming up but I know all these things will always be there through out the year, so there will never be a good time to leave. Okay, no regrets!

Terri, sorry about your neck pain, hope u r better now. Great to know that you have been to Singapore and you loved it here. I must admit it is a good place to shop and eat but it is too small that you can go around within one or two days. After that it gets bored. sorry I can't share with you much about my travel experiences as I have not travelled much, he he he.......... I have been to Auckland, India, and to some SEA (south east asian) countries. Was about to go to Melbourne during last aug but had to cancel because of DH work. DH works seven days a week and hardly takes any break thats Y I can't travel much.

Mrs M happy to know that u had a wonderful weekend. I 'm all excited to start my tmt but a bit nervous about the 2ww test date (if all goes well). I become extremely sad everytime I think of my first cycle result date It was a blow to me as I did not expect a -ve. I don't know how am i gonna face the result date. Looks like you and terri love to travel, good for you 2. It is something that we people need at times like this.

KTF, how did your blood test go? Hope all was well. Abt the "preparing for the worst" I really don't know how to explain, I used to believe in this ever since I was 18 but it did not work when my first cycle failed. I definetly did not prepare for the worst as I was very confident that I would become pg. What I usually do is to visualize the failure and plan what is next (thats how I prepare myself) but this is contradicting to what is recommended in Zita West (PMA). But it helps me as I can't recover easily from any failure (Now I think you would know why I took 3 years to start another cycle and still have not gone for FET).

I'm going to the supermarket to buy some organic food, have to cook and clean today cos I m a housewife now :wink: . We ususally eat outside here as it is very easy to get fresh food at all times but I don't think they cook organic food in the restraunts, hawkers centres and food courts here.

Take care every one, relax and rest well

love all
Chel
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2nd ICSI in May/June +ive (BFP) praying hard for a smooth 9 months
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