The Over 40 Crowd

CarolineP · Post by **CarolineP** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:58 pm

Kat

Well done on your +ive result - my 1st scan at 6 weeks showed a little flashing black blob of the the heartbeat.

The 1st real scan where we could make out the shape of the baby was at 12 weeks.

Good luck with your pregnancy and I can assure that you will always find something to worry about - its all part of the parenting process!

CarolineP

AMck · Post by **AMck** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:09 pm

hi Kat, what fabulous news!! well done you!

I am sooooo pleased for you.

Take care of yourself and don't disappear. I still need your great advice!

Congrats again, hope scan goes Ok etc..etc..etc..etc..

Anna

taylorjools · Post by **taylorjools** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:13 pm

Congratulations KAT and Kats dh

well done you guys, I am sooo happy for you. You'll probably have a good beta as you got a good line with testing early on the hpt - fingers crossed 4 U.

Lara I have pm'd you about my new clinic in the Ukraine. Prices are about 50% of Uk and quality fantastic e.g PGD for $1000 - contact me for more info (and believe me I've been through the mill to find them, they are the only clinic I've found that would deal with all our very complex issues)

hey ho Randa where is aunty flo?????

LOve to all of you. WE finally got the OK to start stims, so Ill be starting 14th November, with target date for donor EC 23-24th November. Will be in Kiev 10 days as they monitor the whole things really closely especailly cos of my fibroids and immune issues, plus dh's TESE samples will need to be tested so he might have to do another fresh tese PROCESS (POOR SWEETIE

). Theyll also give us the chance to go to blasts if we want and it looks like the right thing, but for the moment I will just be happy if we get some lovely embies to put back. I am so happy they have been so good helping with all the b***y issues we have. I got my customised med programme yesterday, and will do 3 ultrasounds duirng the stims to make sure all goes perfectly.

btw, I heard from Joy on the other board - she is in hospital and will have cesarean THURSDAY with her boy twinnies

LOve and hugs

bigJ xxxxxxx

randa2006 · Post by **randa2006** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 7:51 pm

Amfy, I'll be rooting for you tomorrow for a perfect EC! How many follies did they see at your last scan? I'm sure you told us but I must have missed it.

Exciting news about Joy! Thanks for sharing BigJ.

Heather and Anna, I know you've advanced since the list below, but I can't remember your new status.

Here's the list, I tried to update a bit. Please correct anything wrong.

Kat - Fresh/donor cycle, hpt +ve!, blood test Tues 8th Nov
Nuala - fresh cycle, late Oct.
BigJ - TESE/donor egg cycle in Kiev, EC set for 23-24 Nov
Caroline - November FET postponed because my Mum is seriously ill
Amfy - EC 9 Nov, ET 11 Nov
Anna - Down reg inj 3rd Nov, waiting for AF and cyst drain
JackieT - start downregging 2/11 for FET
Heather - FET November sometime
Randa - Natural BDing until Jan, then first full IVF cycle
Lara - choosing tmt (IVF vs GIFT)

Thanks, all, for the kind remarks about my "late" af.

AMck · Post by **AMck** » Tue Nov 08, 2005 10:32 pm

Hi all
Not much to add to list I'm afraid. I had my prostap jab on the 3rd.Still waiting for AF. If she arrives in the next few days then I have an appointment on Mon 14th for a scan prior to a cyst drain on 16th. If that all goes well then I will start stimming on the same day! If, and, but, next....!!!Wait and see, so frustrating.......

Anyway will keep you posted. Thanks for asking after me.

Anna

Kat - Fresh/donor cycle, hpt +ve!, blood test Tues 8th Nov
Nuala - fresh cycle, late Oct.
BigJ - TESE/donor egg cycle in Kiev, EC set for 23-24 Nov
Caroline - November FET postponed because my Mum is seriously ill
Amfy - EC 9 Nov, ET 11 Nov
Anna - waiting for AF and cyst drain (14th/16th Nov)
JackieT - start downregging 2/11 for FET
Heather - FET November sometime
Randa - Natural BDing until Jan, then first full IVF cycle
Lara - choosing tmt (IVF vs GIFT)

randa2006 · Post by **randa2006** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:58 am

Anna,
That is frustrating

Just keep thinking of the reward for your patience and that will make you smile.

Some cysts don't interfere with an IVF cycle (at least that's what my docs said). I've had a couple. They tested my last one and said it was not the kind that interferes with an IVF, so we kept going. If it had been the other, we would have had to delay (they said there are only the two kinds). Luckily it ruptured right before EC, but they said that didn't even matter really, since the test proved it wasn't the estrogen absorbing kind. If I understood them right, some cysts suck in a lot of the estrogen and therefore screw up the stimulation. (Hope I got that right)
Good luck with getting it out of the way so you can move forward.

Smita · Post by **Smita** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:48 am

Kat,
Just wanted to say Congratulations! and wish you lots and lots of happiness and health!

smita

cmg · Post by **cmg** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:41 am

Kat, congratulations and thanks for giving some hope to us oldies

Amfy, I hope EC is going well as I type

Big J, I'm so pleased you've finally got the go ahead and that you've found a clinic you can have such confidence in.

I am miserable and lost. My mother died on Sunday, after putting up the most incredible fight to stay alive. I was holding her hand when she went and she was surrounded by people she loved. It has been the most emotionally draining experience and I'm still numb.

I don't really know what to do about my FET. I understand what people said about putting myself first, but in a way that's what I was doing. This is my very very last chance. I've been trying to give it the best possible chance, with the healthy eating, the acupuncture etc etc. But I can't imagine that my body is going to be at its peak right now when I am lost in grief. Surely the stress will make a difference. Also I don't know if I could cope with 2 losses at the same time, if the FET didn't work.

If I delay it a month then I'll be in the 2ww over Christmas, but Christmas is going to be a bit miserable anyway without my Mum, so perhaps it doesn't matter. Or I could wait until Jan but psychologically I wanted to get it done before I'm 44 and my birthday is early January.

I don't have to make any decisions yet - it's unmedicated FET so all I have to do is find the right day for ovulation. The clinic have said I can call it off right up to the point where they take the embies out of the freezer. I'm not thinking straight right now, so I'll get the funeral out of the way first.

Anyway, that's all for now

Caroline

lara · Post by **lara** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:09 pm

Jules - thanks for the help, I've emailed you, I'm very interested to find out more about the clinic in the Ukraine.

Caroline - I'm so sorry for your loss. My dad died 21 years ago - I have a bit of an idea what you're going through. When you're grieving your body is under stress - you often don't sleep as well, eat as well, have as much energy. It's like a form of depression, for a while. If you talk about it and get help you'll get through that phase more quickly, obviously. I suppose, if you weren't worried about the turning 44 thing, you'd wait a couple of months before doing the FET. I'm 44 in Feb and want to do my (probably last) cycle before then, so I understand. However, because it's FET, you've already got your embryos, they're not aging along with you as you age, they're frozen, so in a way scientifically it doesn't make any difference if you wait a couple of months. It's something to bear in mind when you make your decision, anyway.
All these decisions - I'm rubbish at decisions at the best of time, and when so much hangs on the decisions you make it's almost paralysing!

Good luck and look after yourself, and good luck to Anna with EC.

taylorjools · Post by **taylorjools** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:05 pm

Caloline

I am so sorry to hear about your mum. Here's the biggest {{{{{{{{{hug}}}}}}}}}}} for you

Love bigJ

amfy · Post by **amfy** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:41 pm

CMG - so sorry to hear the news about your mum. This is bound to take time to get over and you are right to take into account how your current emotional state might affect your treatment. It's good advice above that the important factor is the age of your embyos, not the age of you, so in that sense there is no need to worry about getting a couple of months older.

When you originally posted about abandoning your cycle due to your mother's illness you said something along the lines of "I can't pull the "this is my last chance of motherhood card on everyone now"". My perspective on this was very much - "Oh yes you can!". What you are describing now is very different. Give yourself as much time and space as you need, and the advice of putting yourself first still very much stands.

I wish you lots of love comfort and strength for the coming weeks.

ogr1 · Post by **ogr1** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:43 pm

my heart is acheing for you.

after i had so many deaths in our family that is when we decided
that we needed to have a life brought into this world.
trying to get pregnant made it so i could get up in the morning and it made me eat right.. cause i was doing it for a life.

we where going to call our daughter marjie after my mother in-law who we had taken care of that had passed away. she was a amazing women.

know that you have alot of friends ..
you dont have to go threw this alone. it is so hard

CarolineP · Post by **CarolineP** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:01 pm

Caroline

Please accept my heart felt sympathy for you and your family at the loss of your dear Mum. Death is not easy at the best of times, but when you have so many other important personal decisions, it makes its even harder.

My thoughts and prays are with you at this sad time and hope that you will find the strenghth to move forward with your decision on the ET.

CarolineP

Smita · Post by **Smita** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:44 pm

Caroline,
I'm so very sorry to hear about your mother.I cant imagine the grief you are going through..Please take care.

smita

randa2006 · Post by **randa2006** » Wed Nov 09, 2005 6:07 pm

Caroline,
My heart goes out to you as you deal with this huge loss.
The depression, lack of sleep, inability to focus, anger, no appetite, stress.... is all very, very real and you are smart to delay the tmt.
The only way to describe losing a parent to anyone who hasn't been through it is to picture a day when the you wake up and the sun doesn't come up, or gravity stops existing, or oxygen goes away. You don't know life without any of these constants being there, and the same is true for your parent - you've never breathed a breath without the knowledge that your Mom was somewhere in this world. This is a tremendous shock to our system to say the least.
Please take extra good care of yourself. There are many good books on the grieving process, and it is a process. Sounds like you will have lots of loving family around you. All of this will help.
God Bless You!

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