The Over 40 Crowd

[Jeni Babes]

anna- just wanted to say again how sad i was to hear your news. I have posted on your other thread. As i said there it has happened to me too. But there is hope as here i am 3 months later...4 days after at ET with 2 embies....the cetrotide cycle for me really helped as in the last cycle the down reg totally shut down my system too much. Hope this info brings hope Honey... X X and Hugs

AMFY- good luck for the 25th...

Randa i have updated the list below for you.

Kat good luck with your scan on the 28th...

A big hi to everyone else....

My ET went well on monday 2 eggs fertilised grade 1 and 2 and both put back in. I have been exausted since and have had a lot of kidney pain ( NOT a UTI but i think due to low energy) so going for some kinesiology tomorrow. ( a holistic approach that works well for me using minerals, vit, energy/ physical manipulation and tons of other stuff). I have also had an inf since EC and will have to wait until test day for antibiotics! Yeah test day! I am due to test saturday 3rd dec BUT my clinic is closed at the weekends so i have to wait until MONDAY 5th!!!! But i think i have waited 3 years for this so another 2 days is but a drop of water in the ocean.
I have had symptoms of nausea throughout the day and night but i think it's too early for that so feel it must be side effects of the prog. pessaries...I have been wakening up every morning ( 3 days now) at 4am absolutely starving...So my wee blastocycsts must be needing some extra energy so been feeding them oat cakes. Hoping all goes well with my wee embies and their bedding in...

Loving hugs to you all
jen
xxxxx


CarolineP - baby due Nov 28
Kat - Fresh/donor cycle, +ve First scan 28th Nov
Nuala - fresh cycle, late Oct.
BigJ - TESE/donor egg cycle in Kiev, EC set for 23-24 Nov
Caroline - November FET postponed
Amfy - 2ww - test 25th November
Anna - stimming 16th Nov, 1st Scan 23rd Nov
JackieT - start downregging 2/11 for FET
Heather - FET November sometime
Randa - Natural BDing until Jan, then first full IVF cycle
Lara - chosen IVF+PGS
jen- test date mon 5th dec

[AMck]

Dearest ladies, thank you for all your positive messages of support.

Was feeling really down yesterday and you have helped to restore my PMA. This is our 1st IVF cycle and maybe it will take a while to get things right.

I have upped the stim drugs and have a scan tomorrow morning. Hopefully we will get better news this time Fingers crossed.

I will be asking the nurses all about cetrocide and short cycles etc..

This site is invaluable, what would I do without you

Amfy, how are you today? One more sleep. Sending baby dust your way. good luck tomorrow.

Jen look after yourself and let those little embies hold on tight. Keep feeding them!!! May the days fly by....

Kat, hope all goes well on 28th. Thinking of you.

Lara when do you start your next cycle of tmt?

Bye for now
Anna

[amfy]

Thanks for the good wishes AMck!

I think it could have been my one session of acupuncture that boosted my follicle count from 6-7 to about 15 in 4 days when i was stimming. Could this be worth a try for you?

[AMck]

Hi Ladies, hope you are all OK today!

Amfy, I was so sorry to see your news. Hope you are OK. Thank you for the message about acupuncture. (you too Nicola) I have never done that before . I will definitely think about it.

Kat, not long now , a few more days. Hope you are well and looking after yourself!

BigJ, how are things over there in Kiev? Hope all is going according to plan!

Lara, I have spoken with the nurse today about the protocols etc. She was supportive and understanding. I think I will be advised to go for a short cycle next time....if there is a next time.

My 2nd scan today showed no improvement. Still no follie growth and endo layer only 6! Am continuing stim meds until Mon. If the scan still shows no growth then the cycle will be abandoned This is my 4th time!!!! Still haven't got to EC stage ....
Have updated me on list
CarolineP - baby due Nov 28
Kat - Fresh/donor cycle, +ve First scan 28th Nov
Nuala - fresh cycle, late Oct.
BigJ - TESE/donor egg cycle in Kiev, EC set for 23-24 Nov
Caroline - November FET postponed
Amfy - 2ww - test 25th November
Anna - stimming 16th Nov, 3rd scan 28th Nov
JackieT - start downregging 2/11 for FET
Heather - FET November sometime
Randa - Natural BDing until Jan, then first full IVF cycle
Lara - chosen IVF+PGS
jen- test date mon 5th dec

PMA and baby dust to all

Bye for now, Anna

[Kat]

Hi all

Amfy - I was sorry to see your news on the other post, you sound quite positive for the future and I really hope your frozen embryos come through for you.

Anna - what have they said about your poor response? Have they given you any suggestions? Knowing QMH you'll have to really push them to tell you as they don't seem to volunteer much info. You could ask for an appt with Nick to see what his suggestions are for next time, he is always very helpful.
Not sure where you live in relation to QMH but I have acupuncture in Kingston so pm me if you would like details - I am sure it has helped me get where I am. My acupuncturist told me I was the 4th person that month that he was treating for infertility to get pg!

Julie - hope Kiev is going well

Monday seems to be coming round very quickly - my scan is at 4.15 so don't expect to hear anything from me until well after that, whatever the results!

Hi to everyone else too, hope everyone has a nice weekend

Lots of love
Kat xx

[amfy]

Must admit I'm feeling crap today. AF has started too now this morning so maybe my mood will start to lift as my hormones rebalance. Was really tearful last night and this morning and just got into a negative frame of mind thinking ahead to a potential time (which isn't even here yet) when i might have to accept that no-one's ever going to call me mummy.

Tried to talk to DP but he just said "Well yes that might be the case, but no-one's expecting you to take that in all at once are they?"

er....very helpful.

I'm going to watch Villa this afternoon, which I wouldn't have been doing till my 2nd trimester if I'd been pregnant. (DP said he "wouldn't let me" go if I was pregnant - although i did try to convince him that if I needed to avoid excitement - Villa Park is the perfect place to do it at the moment!) They've been absolutely rubbish this season and if this trend continues everyone will think I'm crying over them this afternoon!

[AMck]

Amfy I agree with you about the Villa. My brother is a big fan. Not doing so well this season are they!
Hope the match was worth watching and it wasn't too cold out there ......Come on the Villa!!!

Take care
Anna

[Jeni Babes]

hello My wise Womb-en

Kat good luck with the scan Monday... bet you are so excited

amfy and anna- Villa supporters eh! hope you enjoyed the match amfy and it took your mind off things for a while. Anna hang in there, build hope for the future. reflexology sounds good ... have fingerd crossed for you.

I don't want to complain but i have felt like yeuk all day. very very sicky....then starving, so i eat ...then 5 mins later feel really sick... I have had it since i started the progesterone pessaries but now at day 6 post transfer ( fertilised 8 days ago) it's worse. didn't go out with Df tonight to visit my parents cos i couldn't stand the thought of them drinking alcohol and me smelling it! keep thinking this all may sound positive but i would think that it's too early for morning sickness? surely the embies are just beginning to bed in??? so no hcg yet???

what do you wise women think? maybe i have a tummy bug?

loving hugs to all
jen
xxx

[amfy]

Jeni - it all sounds good but you know you can't tell anything!

Is it pregnancy? PMS? or just the drugs?

Who can tell?

Well - I'm pleased to say that Villa won and actually played quite well. It was very very cold but the atmosphere was good. It did take my mind off things and, shallow being that I am, I'm feeling much better about the world now!

[Jeni Babes]

HI everyone

hope you have had a good weekend.

amfy
i am glad you enjoyed the match and it took your mind off things. It's atmosphere and tribal aspect i love at matches. One of my friends who had session tickets to Celtic went working in USA for a year. I managed to use his ticket for most of that year. before that i really had no interest in footie...but i really enjoy it and the atmosphere. what a stress relief...
its oh so good to get it off your chest all that stress.

yesterday because i felt so sick, i was lying down most of the day. I became totally analytical and everything was just going around my head. Today the sickness has been not so bad and Df and i managed a walk in the sunshine. I am more grounded today and am trying hard not to let my mind wander to the ...am I???? or am I not???? argument.

Here's hoping we all have a good week.


Love jenxxx

[AMck]

Hi Ladies, hope the weekend was good. Here we are again Sunday night, that 'work tomorrow' morning feeling creeping on!

Jen, sorry to see you are feeling so sick Hope it passes soon and you feel better. Maybe this is a good sign...who knows?

Amfy, I was very suprised to see Villa win! Great news. DH is an Arsenal fan, they won as well so it was all happy in the land if Anna yesterday!

Kat, how are you? One more day to wait. Hope the scan goes well

I have my scan at 7.30am tomorrow. I really don't think my follies have grown. Not holding out much hope. Have absolutely no symptoms of anything!!!!! Feel exactly the same as I did on Friday. Ah well, back to the drawing board. Feel up one minute and down the next....sound familiar to anyone?!?!!!!

PMA to all

Bye for now

Anna

[JackieT]

hi all
kat, just a quick note to wish you well tomorrow with your scan, please can someone tell me how can 2 people be so stupid as to put down the wrong dates and times for our scan and then to miss it completely??????
i was supposed to go in on weds and turned up on thurs, they were full so now we go back tomorrow{hopefuly} 9.50a.m.
oh well,,,,,
hello to everyone
love jackie xxx

[amfy]

Hi Jeni!

I am keeping an eye out for you! When are you due to test? I am sure I have seen it somewhere but I can't remember where - is it under a week yet?

Just keep taking it easy, ther last few days are definitely the hardest so try to stock up on stuff to occupy your mind (vidoes, books knitting, - whatever!), and stuff to help you sleep.

I've been in touch with the clinic today and spoken to our nurse. I'll talk to DP later but it looks like we will go with the next natural cycle after this one. That will start Christmas week and ET would be about the 2nd week in January I think.

If that doesn't work, I don't think we'll go for it again. We said from the start that we would only have one go. Even if we had the money for a second go, I don't think I'd want to do it again. It's been really stressful and whilst other couples often say it brings them closer together, i feel that a real distance has grown between us over the past couple of months. I've wanted to talk about the IVF, he's wanted to ignore it. Also we're usually quite playful, he's always doing stuff like wrestling me to the floor and tickling me, or sticking something from the freezer up my back and making me jump. He hasn't been able to do that and it just feels like we never laugh anymore. It's just like this enormous shadow of sadness and anxiety hangs over everything.

If someone could guarantee 100% that it would work next time I'd do it, but to back through all that to have my heart broken again - forget it! So - I'm going to try to breathe life into my 2 frozen babies in the New year, and if i never get to hold them, then i think thats the end of it.

[Kat]

Oh why is nothing ever straightforward in this game?
Scan showed one baby but no heartbeat. Yet. They say to come back same time next week and they are not worried in the slightest, it could just be too early, give it some time to grow, could have been late implantation. I asked the nurse so many times are you sure this is OK and she said yes, don't worry. How can I not worry?
We have a picture of our 'blob' and DH keeps telling me not to worry too, and reiterating what they said. I was so convinced that a) we would see a heartbeat and b) if we didn't then it was all over. And now look, neither one way nor the other. When we got home there was a huge bunch of flowers waiting for me (I went straight from work) - DH thought I'd need them whatever the outcome, what a sweetie.

I am sorry I know shouldn't complain because I know I am so lucky to have got this far. I'm not really complaining, just want to know everything is OK, that's all. Positive stories re growth spurts between scans needed!

Love
Kat xx

[AMck]

Hi Ladies, hope Monday was good for you!!

Kat sorry to see your post. how frustrating. But if the nurse said it was OK then it was OK!. I'm sure others on this forum have had simlilar experiences with positive outcomes..no doubt there will be a few posts later

Jackie , bad luck with the appointment muddle...it is easily done. Good luck tomorrow.

Amfy, sounds like you've made a tough decision. Sending you PMA to get through the next few weeks. Crossed fingers for that BFP

Jen, how are holding up. Hope the days are whizzing by. Are you working?

As for me , we finally abandoned the cycle after no response to stim meds. Absolutely nothing happenend! The nurse was very sympathetic (it was Katie at QM, Kat) and said that we should go for a short cycle after xmas. Anyway we made an appointment to talk through our options with the doc on Dec 13th. I just really wish we could get to EC stage so we could see what shape my eggs are in. This is the 4th time we have abandoned before getting to EC! If we need to go down the ED route I need to prepare myself...and DH too!

Anyway, am really busy at work so the days are flying by at the moment, thank goodness. The waiting game is so familiar to us all! Trying to keep positive.

Bye for now. PMA to all

It ain't over til it's over !!
Anna