Sorry girls just trying out the tickers....but obviously I am going wrong somewhere!!
bye for now
Anna x
The Over 40 Crowd
Hi all, thanks for all your lovely messages and Julie thankyou so much for your message. I am feeling a lot more positive now and would you believe it felt like I was going to throw up this morning - I was so pleased! I didn't actually vomit but felt like I was going to and then it went away again. And that was after having sore boobs in the middle of the night. These must be really good signs, surely.
Work Christmas party tonight - see how long I last before I have to go home - have been going to bed 8.30-9.00 as v tired. Maybe the party atmosphere will keep me awake. Luckily I don't drink anyway so no one will ask awkward questions about why I'm not drinking
Take care all,
Kat xx
Work Christmas party tonight - see how long I last before I have to go home - have been going to bed 8.30-9.00 as v tired. Maybe the party atmosphere will keep me awake. Luckily I don't drink anyway so no one will ask awkward questions about why I'm not drinking
Take care all,
Kat xx
Me & DH both 41
ICSI #1 - abandoned
#2 - cancelled - DH accident
#3 - 1 transferred, bfn
#4 - 2 transferred, bfn
#5 - abandoned
#6 - no eggs at EC
#7 - DE in Barcelona - bfp but lost Dec'05
#8 - DE UK - bfn
#9 - FET Sept/Oct '07....
ICSI #1 - abandoned
#2 - cancelled - DH accident
#3 - 1 transferred, bfn
#4 - 2 transferred, bfn
#5 - abandoned
#6 - no eggs at EC
#7 - DE in Barcelona - bfp but lost Dec'05
#8 - DE UK - bfn
#9 - FET Sept/Oct '07....
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Jeni Babes
Hi everyone..... ...It all over this time for us...BFN
I had mega cramps this morning and now slight spotting has turned into bright red fullblown AF.
Will still test tomorrow and clinic says still to come for test on Monday, but all hope for this cycle has gone. The tears haven't formed yet as i was so sure it would be a BFP, am sure the tears will all come throughout the day.
Thank you all for your support and kindness
Love jen
xxx.
I had mega cramps this morning and now slight spotting has turned into bright red fullblown AF.
Will still test tomorrow and clinic says still to come for test on Monday, but all hope for this cycle has gone. The tears haven't formed yet as i was so sure it would be a BFP, am sure the tears will all come throughout the day.
Thank you all for your support and kindness
Love jen
xxx.
Sorry Jeni, that's such rotten news, I feel for you. what's next for you then, I wonder. I know the feeling so so well, and God, today I've had a blow myself and was sobbing in the clinic because it hasn't worked for me this time - the first time I haven't made it to EC. I've got 2 good sized follices, one that would have probably made it by Monday, and the others are minute and of no use. So they advised me not to go ahead. I was really stressed as well because I had to pick a friend's child up from nursery and time was ticking by and I had to drive like the clappers to get there. It's meant I've had to choke back the tears to look after her, but I'm finding it hard. I've stuck her in front of the tv for a bit to get myself together.
Jeni, I hope you manage to get through this okay, it's going to be tough, I don't know if it's your last go or whether you've got another go ahead of you, but whatever you decide I wish you all the luck and sending you support.
As for me, this was supposed to be IT, the final try. I should have waited I think - my body's not recovered from the pregs and m/cs, they said. Oh well, that a thousand pounds worth of drugs blown!
I saw a certain celebrity's other half in the clinic, and I know her first was IVF so I guess she's going for a second. I started feeling really resentful about how much money she's got to spend on endless IVF's. I won't even repeat what rotten things I was thinking. Oh dear, where's my compassion and love for the world?
Kat, hang on in there - PMA and Baby Dust to you, dear girl.
Take care all,
Lara
Jeni, I hope you manage to get through this okay, it's going to be tough, I don't know if it's your last go or whether you've got another go ahead of you, but whatever you decide I wish you all the luck and sending you support.
As for me, this was supposed to be IT, the final try. I should have waited I think - my body's not recovered from the pregs and m/cs, they said. Oh well, that a thousand pounds worth of drugs blown!
I saw a certain celebrity's other half in the clinic, and I know her first was IVF so I guess she's going for a second. I started feeling really resentful about how much money she's got to spend on endless IVF's. I won't even repeat what rotten things I was thinking. Oh dear, where's my compassion and love for the world?
Kat, hang on in there - PMA and Baby Dust to you, dear girl.
Take care all,
Lara
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Hi girls
Kat - glad you are feeling better, when is your next scan then???
jeni - I am so sorry sweetie, bugger when AF beats you to the test. Still as you say test anyway, we never know do we. Thinking of you.
Lara - sorry that this one didn't work out. Just think though, on the egg pyramid theory, give it a few months for the drugs to get out the system and you'll maybe get a bumper crop just waiting to come through PMA
understand the Grr thoughts, I think we are allowed them dont you?? Saw a film with Julia Roberts last night and had exactly the same thoughts, buggered up the movie for me, then festering on the 2ww in front of (German) DIY SOS, convincing myself that this might have worked but not believing it, and they were doing a children's room for a couple who had triplets with IVF on their first go...GRRRRRRRRR
hugs to all of us, and may we curse when we feel like it and not feel guilty
love BigJ
Kat - glad you are feeling better, when is your next scan then???
jeni - I am so sorry sweetie, bugger when AF beats you to the test. Still as you say test anyway, we never know do we. Thinking of you.
Lara - sorry that this one didn't work out. Just think though, on the egg pyramid theory, give it a few months for the drugs to get out the system and you'll maybe get a bumper crop just waiting to come through PMA
understand the Grr thoughts, I think we are allowed them dont you?? Saw a film with Julia Roberts last night and had exactly the same thoughts, buggered up the movie for me, then festering on the 2ww in front of (German) DIY SOS, convincing myself that this might have worked but not believing it, and they were doing a children's room for a couple who had triplets with IVF on their first go...GRRRRRRRRR
hugs to all of us, and may we curse when we feel like it and not feel guilty
love BigJ
POF+autoimmune+dh antibodies,5.05 DIVF IM M/c 7.5 wks, DIVF+TESE at ISIDA - son 08/06
FET ISIDA: 12.07.07 m/c 8 wks b.ovum, 17 Dec 2007- BFP triplets OMG!!!
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FET ISIDA: 12.07.07 m/c 8 wks b.ovum, 17 Dec 2007- BFP triplets OMG!!!
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Big J, How are you doing? How are u holding up with your 2ww? Good Luck hope that BFP comes your way soon xx
TTC 6yrs......Have jumped off the rollercoaster for now, too many BFN's and too much heartache, to keep going....Moving on to fulfil other dreams!!!
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Hi
Jules - Thanks for your kind words.
How about you - sounds like this might be your jackpot cycle - you certainly deserve it.
I didn't know about the pyramid egg theory - anything that gets one's hopes up is cool by me!
How was Kiev in the end - the people at the clinic seem really nice, I hope it was a good experience for you.
Everyone who's feeling rough, hang on in there - I've got to, in spite of sort of having to face the reality that maybe I'm just too old - the number of women of 44 getting pg with their own eggs - yep, it doesn't make good reading! But then, statistics aren't that helpful for us, as we're all different, you can't really lump us all in together when we're all doing different things for different problems.
Have a good weekend everyone,
Lara xx
Jules - Thanks for your kind words.
How about you - sounds like this might be your jackpot cycle - you certainly deserve it.
I didn't know about the pyramid egg theory - anything that gets one's hopes up is cool by me!
How was Kiev in the end - the people at the clinic seem really nice, I hope it was a good experience for you.
Everyone who's feeling rough, hang on in there - I've got to, in spite of sort of having to face the reality that maybe I'm just too old - the number of women of 44 getting pg with their own eggs - yep, it doesn't make good reading! But then, statistics aren't that helpful for us, as we're all different, you can't really lump us all in together when we're all doing different things for different problems.
Have a good weekend everyone,
Lara xx
Hi, Jen & Lara, I was sorry to read your news, I hope you are taking things easy and spending time together with DH before you even think about deciding what to do next. I know nothing I say will make you feel any better but you are in my thoughts.
My scan is Monday 4.15 pm so think of me as we find out. I keep trying to tell myself it's all going to be OK but I am SO scared of not seeing anything this time despite what everyone says about other people not seeing a heartbeat at 7 weeks and then seeing one at 8 weeks. By tomorrow afternoon I may well be a complete wreck.
Hope everyone else is OK
Lots of love
Kat xx
My scan is Monday 4.15 pm so think of me as we find out. I keep trying to tell myself it's all going to be OK but I am SO scared of not seeing anything this time despite what everyone says about other people not seeing a heartbeat at 7 weeks and then seeing one at 8 weeks. By tomorrow afternoon I may well be a complete wreck.
Hope everyone else is OK
Lots of love
Kat xx
Me & DH both 41
ICSI #1 - abandoned
#2 - cancelled - DH accident
#3 - 1 transferred, bfn
#4 - 2 transferred, bfn
#5 - abandoned
#6 - no eggs at EC
#7 - DE in Barcelona - bfp but lost Dec'05
#8 - DE UK - bfn
#9 - FET Sept/Oct '07....
ICSI #1 - abandoned
#2 - cancelled - DH accident
#3 - 1 transferred, bfn
#4 - 2 transferred, bfn
#5 - abandoned
#6 - no eggs at EC
#7 - DE in Barcelona - bfp but lost Dec'05
#8 - DE UK - bfn
#9 - FET Sept/Oct '07....
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Jeni Babes
Oh KAT
i know it must be such a stressful time. sending you loads of positive vibes and
sleeping dust. sweet derams and good luck for tomorrow.
Jules good luck hope this 2ww is your last
lara- I know you too are devesated, I do know how you feel. This was the fist time i had got so far. Last tx was canc due to no follies. But thinking on what Jules said helps. Also Kat told me that every 5 months you lay down eggs for the next 5 months. So each tx xan bring a larger number of eggs and follies. that's what i am hoping as well. When are you thinking ( if ever)of going through all this again?
Df and i have still to go for a review of our tx. we are hoping that we will still be funded for another cycle. Adam wants to wait until May 2006 so it gives my body and mind time to recover....i would like to go again in March. As it is I still have to go to the clinic for a preg test tommorrrow.
( even though my bleeding is like something from a horror movie). To tell you the truth it is something i could really do without...but they want to check.
a big Hi and hugs to all you wise womb-en and
Love jen
xxxx
i know it must be such a stressful time. sending you loads of positive vibes and
sleeping dust. sweet derams and good luck for tomorrow.Jules good luck hope this 2ww is your last
lara- I know you too are devesated, I do know how you feel. This was the fist time i had got so far. Last tx was canc due to no follies. But thinking on what Jules said helps. Also Kat told me that every 5 months you lay down eggs for the next 5 months. So each tx xan bring a larger number of eggs and follies. that's what i am hoping as well. When are you thinking ( if ever)of going through all this again?
Df and i have still to go for a review of our tx. we are hoping that we will still be funded for another cycle. Adam wants to wait until May 2006 so it gives my body and mind time to recover....i would like to go again in March. As it is I still have to go to the clinic for a preg test tommorrrow.
( even though my bleeding is like something from a horror movie). To tell you the truth it is something i could really do without...but they want to check.a big Hi and hugs to all you wise womb-en and
Love jen
xxxx
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Jeni Babes
Oh KAT
i know it must be such a stressful time. sending you loads of positive vibes and sleeping dust. sweet dreams and good luck for tomorrow.
Jules good luck hope this 2ww is your last
lara- I know you too are devesated, I do know how you feel. This was the first time i had got so far. Last tx was canc due to no follies. But thinking on what Jules said helps. Also Kat told me that every 5 months you lay down eggs for the next 5 months. So each tx can bring a larger number of eggs and follies. that's what i am hoping as well. When are you thinking ( if ever)of going through all this again?
Df and i have still to go for a review of our tx. we are hoping that we will still be funded for another cycle. Adam wants to wait until May 2006 so it gives my body and mind time to recover....i would like to go again in March. As it is I still have to go to the clinic for a preg test tommorrrow. ( even though my bleeding is like something from a horror movie). To tell you the truth it is something i could really do without...but they want to check.
a big Hi and hugs to all you wise womb-en and
Love jen
xxxx
i know it must be such a stressful time. sending you loads of positive vibes and
sleeping dust. sweet dreams and good luck for tomorrow.Jules good luck hope this 2ww is your last
lara- I know you too are devesated, I do know how you feel. This was the first time i had got so far. Last tx was canc due to no follies. But thinking on what Jules said helps. Also Kat told me that every 5 months you lay down eggs for the next 5 months. So each tx can bring a larger number of eggs and follies. that's what i am hoping as well. When are you thinking ( if ever)of going through all this again?
Df and i have still to go for a review of our tx. we are hoping that we will still be funded for another cycle. Adam wants to wait until May 2006 so it gives my body and mind time to recover....i would like to go again in March. As it is I still have to go to the clinic for a preg test tommorrrow.
( even though my bleeding is like something from a horror movie). To tell you the truth it is something i could really do without...but they want to check.a big Hi and hugs to all you wise womb-en and
Love jen
xxxx
Been away in Italy so just catching up with everyone’s news. Jen and Lara – am really sorry that things haven’t worked out. It’s so difficult when you get a BFN, especially when it’s after multiple goes. After our 3rd –ve cycle my DH said that was it, but in reality he’s happy for me to keep ploughing on. If my FET goes ahead this coming week, it will be my 4th attempt in a calendar year (3 fresh and first frozen). I do wonder how many times I’ll keep going until either my clinic or my common sense tell me to give up! For me it’s difficult – outwardly I’m totally fertile and respond very well to stims (25 eggs last cycle) so lack of eggs or quality isn’t the issue (I always have blastos). Maybe I’m just very unlucky or it’s not meant to be?
I’m due for an FET this week but haven’t ovulated yet. My scan on Friday was fine – lining OK and they could see the dominant follie (I’m doing a natural). My cycle’s running late this month as I was in China last month and all the flights knocked my cycle out of shape, but they reckon I’m due to ovulate any time soon. However – I have set a limit of Weds being the last day to ovulate. They’d transfer 5 days later – being Monday – and then I am due to fly to Italy for Christmas on the 20th. We’ve decided that I won’t fly and test over there and that if I can’t get the test done before the day we fly out, I’ll leave the FET until January. Even though the clinic say it’s OK to fly, last year when I had the first cycle and BFP I flew to Italy and then lost the pg (even though I think it was lost before I left). Last cycle in August I flew to Italy during 2WW and BFN. Apart from anything, it’s too distressing for me to suffer the BFN over there (no friends or family who know and his family aren’t the best). If by some miracle I get a BFP, then I’ll stay in London.
However, at this stage I’m not hugely confident. After so many knocks back it’s impossible to get up any PMA and I really think some things are just totally down to luck or chance.
Jules – my fingers are crossed for your test and Kat for your scan today.
Nicola
I’m due for an FET this week but haven’t ovulated yet. My scan on Friday was fine – lining OK and they could see the dominant follie (I’m doing a natural). My cycle’s running late this month as I was in China last month and all the flights knocked my cycle out of shape, but they reckon I’m due to ovulate any time soon. However – I have set a limit of Weds being the last day to ovulate. They’d transfer 5 days later – being Monday – and then I am due to fly to Italy for Christmas on the 20th. We’ve decided that I won’t fly and test over there and that if I can’t get the test done before the day we fly out, I’ll leave the FET until January. Even though the clinic say it’s OK to fly, last year when I had the first cycle and BFP I flew to Italy and then lost the pg (even though I think it was lost before I left). Last cycle in August I flew to Italy during 2WW and BFN. Apart from anything, it’s too distressing for me to suffer the BFN over there (no friends or family who know and his family aren’t the best). If by some miracle I get a BFP, then I’ll stay in London.
However, at this stage I’m not hugely confident. After so many knocks back it’s impossible to get up any PMA and I really think some things are just totally down to luck or chance.
Jules – my fingers are crossed for your test and Kat for your scan today.
Nicola
It's all over
I have to wait to see if I m/c naturally or if I have to go in and have my baby taken away
I'm sure the tears will stop soon
Take care everyone
Kat xx
I have to wait to see if I m/c naturally or if I have to go in and have my baby taken away
I'm sure the tears will stop soon
Take care everyone
Kat xx
Me & DH both 41
ICSI #1 - abandoned
#2 - cancelled - DH accident
#3 - 1 transferred, bfn
#4 - 2 transferred, bfn
#5 - abandoned
#6 - no eggs at EC
#7 - DE in Barcelona - bfp but lost Dec'05
#8 - DE UK - bfn
#9 - FET Sept/Oct '07....
ICSI #1 - abandoned
#2 - cancelled - DH accident
#3 - 1 transferred, bfn
#4 - 2 transferred, bfn
#5 - abandoned
#6 - no eggs at EC
#7 - DE in Barcelona - bfp but lost Dec'05
#8 - DE UK - bfn
#9 - FET Sept/Oct '07....
Dearest Kat,
Poor, poor you, I'm so very sorry.
I know oh only too well how you must be feeling, having had two of these this year - missed miscarriages. Both times I had to have D & C, and one time I had to wait over the weekend for the appointment, then go in and sit with all the pg girls in the hospital. I cried a river, and then another. I would not wish that feeling on anyone.
Your whole body mourns the little foetus, and on every level, spiritual, emotional, physical and mental you are completely done in, shattered. There's no upside - that foetus wasn't viable, it just wasn't and that's what happens in nature - but the only comfort I drew was from other people saying they'd had the same thing happen.
I hope you expel it soon and don't have to have D&C, but if you do have a scrape, it's supposed to be very good for your fertility - clearing out all the old stuff in the uterus. I hope you feel able to one day think about having another go - but you'll need lots of rest and tlc and care for some time before then I know.
Sending you all the good vibes and good wishes I can gather up for you.
Love Lara
Poor, poor you, I'm so very sorry.
I know oh only too well how you must be feeling, having had two of these this year - missed miscarriages. Both times I had to have D & C, and one time I had to wait over the weekend for the appointment, then go in and sit with all the pg girls in the hospital. I cried a river, and then another. I would not wish that feeling on anyone.
Your whole body mourns the little foetus, and on every level, spiritual, emotional, physical and mental you are completely done in, shattered. There's no upside - that foetus wasn't viable, it just wasn't and that's what happens in nature - but the only comfort I drew was from other people saying they'd had the same thing happen.
I hope you expel it soon and don't have to have D&C, but if you do have a scrape, it's supposed to be very good for your fertility - clearing out all the old stuff in the uterus. I hope you feel able to one day think about having another go - but you'll need lots of rest and tlc and care for some time before then I know.
Sending you all the good vibes and good wishes I can gather up for you.
Love Lara