Aussies and Kiwis!

[BelB]

Hey guys,

Naba...what the hell did that wierdo mean??, sounds quite odd to me..Great news re. your response to the medications, also sounds great though that they are going for quality rather than quantity. Really, it just takes one good quality embie to make a baby!..keep positive Naba, you are one step closer to that baby!

Bella, sounds like Dr Stirling is quite insensitive to be honest, and without a great bedside manner. A friend Katherine who went through him (and ultimately changed to QFG) reports very similar experiences, also that he spent much more time fratenising with the nursing staff than with his patients..Know what you mean about the boys club, I work with a number of orthopaedic consultants in my work and yep, it's a alive and well. Bring on Sydney IVF!!! and good luck for your move..you know there's an old saying (turned out true in my case) about new home = new baby..let's hope it goes that way very soon!

Tiger, sounds like you're having a rough cycle..are you like me and it gets largely better once af turns up??..kind of like the build up is worse than the ctual event or something..hopefully it gets better for you really soon..Not long now until you jet out to the UK, hope you have a fabbo time. Have a lovely break so that you come back lovely and refreshed to make that baby..

Ahhh MissMolly, I had glandular fever when I was in high school, bloody awful thing..I just remember massive amounts of fatigue..Your holiday will do you the world of good..get out there and have a FABULOUS time!!

We're doing well here, lots of thinking about should I wean Annie before I start my next IVF cycle in Feb..It's largely an uninvestigated / unresearched area from what I can see..will have to do some hunting..

Take care all
Belinda

[bella-s]

Naba - I feel terrible for you. To be so sick you are throwing up is awful. Have you overstimulated on previous cycles as well? What is the dosage you are taking?

And what was that guy on about??

Bella.

[Tiger]

OHH!! Naba, I would have punched him in the face, that's really ####ed. I am really really mad with this wierdo; what an insensitive PRICK. I am still cheesed off I must go and calm myself down... wait on ............calming down....gotta get myself a cuppa..... OK, not any better but I am bit better. Naba, I have my fingers and toes crossed for you that the Wed's BT will return a good result. You will let us know when you get the result won't you.

Bella, I hear that Sydney IVF has a great success rate so you're in good hands . When do you plan to start on tmt with SIVF? I am starting to put things in perspective myself, reckon I will be returning to Melb for tmt Feb next year... we could be IVF cycling at the same time?

Belinda hiya, maybe we could be 2ww at same time in Feb as well? You and Johnie must have heaps to think about before committing to FET... but you're a great planner so I am sure everything will be well sorted beforehand . We finished our Xmas shopping for UK family last weekend. I just can't believe I am flying again in 2.5 weeks time...

I have had very strange AF this cycle. I usually don't get heavy flow until Day 3, but today at Day 2 I am flooding. I am keeping myself warm, all snuggled up in a blanket with hot water bottle with unlimited supply of chocolates. Lunch time telly and my little hammy's keeping me entertained... v.sad but it's the only way. At least I am not gonna suffer endo nuisance while on my UK trip this time......ye-a....

Take care all, Tiger

[BelB]

Hey Tiger,

We could be aussie Feb cycle buddies together!!!..YAYAYAYAYAY..it was a Feb/March cycle that we conceived Annie, so good vibes I reckon! Snuggling up in bed with chockie etc sounds fabulous. It's 38 degrees up here today (quite awful actually), so the thought of snuggling up anywhere is quite abhorent..we do have ducted air con though, so I could feasibly crank that right up and get under the doonah..hmmmmm...

Bella, good luck for your blood test tomorrow, let us know how you go ASAP please!!

Chat soon gals
B

[Tiger]

Bel,

yayay, it's cold here, like top of 9C. Not snowing yet but it will come soon I think. I nearly didn't make it to my Shuji (Japanese Calligraphy - ink and brush) lesson today because of the pain but I did, I am dead proud of myself . Hey hey, wonder if MissMolly is now on her way to LA?

Cheers, Tiger

　　

[naba]

Hi everyone

Thanks for all your messages and good thoughts. It is really nice to know that there are people that care about me. Sorry I didn't write yesterday but had a big day at work and didn't get home til late.

Had some bad news today. I had my blood and my E2 was over 21000. Due to the huge number of follices the nurse rang this afternoon to say the cycle was cancelled. We can't believe it.

I think we are in shock, although I am starting to feel really angry. I am not a angry person so this is a new feeling. Every other cycle has been followed by sad, depressed feelings. I am just really pi**ed. We both are.

We feel ripped off. We have been trying for three years. Three years. When is it going to happen??? What if it never does. We are not going to let it beat us.

Endo, PCOS, implantation problems, poor quality embryos.. bloody hell. People keep telling me I am young. Well that doesn't seem to make a goddam difference. I have also been told I have the insides of a 40 year old (no offence to the 40 year olds out there).

I keep being told that last night there was a report on Channel 7 a current affair about a 50year old lady who conceived on herbs after 12 unsuccessful IVF cycles. Why don't I try herbs they ask. Maybe that will work. Why don't we go on a holiday. Hey, what a great idea! Why don't we just adopt instead. The list goes on. People just don't understand. The only ones who understand are those who are going through it.

Stuff being good. Tonight I brought a bottle of wine, icecream, three blocks of chocolate and pizza. The acupuncturist would kill me. I don't really care at the moment.

We are really disappointed that we couldn't complete this cycle. This would have been transfer no. 8.... I guess we'll have to wait for the new year now.

Thanks for listening/reading... really appreciate it. It is hard going through this with noone except ourselves.

Hope you are all well. Sorry I haven't replied to all of your issues. I know that everyone is going through this at different stages. Don't mean to be selfish in having a explosion.

Thanks again

Naba & lovely DH

[Tiger]

Naba and lovely DH,

well that (the cancellation) sucks; I am all with you two. And you are not selfish, it's ok, let it all out, let it all out as much as you want, you deserve it after S!"#ful of a day. Enjoy your pizza, wine, choccies and icecream and whatever else you decide to do tonight (and don't worry about what your acu would say/think,'cos I am letting you, if they wanna tell you off - get them to call Tiger, I will handle 'em for ya ). Take good care of yourselves.

I am off to cook my DH his dinner. Cheers, Tiger

[BelB]

Hey gals,

Naba, that's incredibly dissapointing. I'm so sorry that the cycle has been cancelled. I think that the wine and chocky idea is a fabulous one, actually, I'll even join you..I have a block of chocolate with me right here as I type (club dark chocolate!..yummo!!)..it's probably a tad too much for me to break open a bottle of wine seeing as though it's about 10am here (though I always said once we got to double figures it was fine to have a tipple!!)..Take your time to get strong again. Have you ever considered some counselling? there are some great IVF specific counsellors located within QFG (Gloria Hines and Michael someone or other), they are both supposed to be wonderful. I had some counselling in the midst of my rollercoast ride and it was very helpful.

Tiger, well done for getting to your class, sounds like it would be fun!

We're doing well here, we fly to Sydney on Saturday morning to have 16 days with my family. I am trying to pack, plus do all those wretched little jobs that you have to do before you go on holidays..wish me luck!!

Take care all
Belinda

[bella-s]

Naba,

Oh hun....my heart goes out to you. It must be so hard to keep going through this, but you have to keep believing that there is light at the end of the tunnel...it will happen one day. I have to admit, it worries me because you are so young. We are relatively new to IVF (1 full cycle, OHSS, 2 FETs), and I also keep being told that I am young & not to worry. But it's scary when you discover that those words don't guarantee anything.

After our fist -ve, I was so depressed, and I was searching on the web for any information (that's when I found this site). I came across an on-line journal of this couple (from Melbourne I think). They went through so much - she was also young but had so many issues that, from memory, they had 11 cycles. I cried so much when I read her journal - it was my first realisation that this might not just be a 'go in & get pregnant' kinda process for us - but this could be a long battle.

I've attached the link to her journal below for you to read - I don't want to spoil the ending but it would be terrible for me to send this to you if there wasn't a happy ending (twins no less!).

I hope it helps you to realise that despite your age, you're not alone, and others have paved the way & eventually been successful in getting pregnant. I totally believe that it will happen for you too, it's just the constant anguish, depression, anger, heartache that's hard to manage.

Have a good rest, lots of wine for Chrissy, and build up your strength for your next cycle. I want to join you on the BFP thread one of these days!

All the best,
Bella.

http://www.happyfamiliesdownunder.com.a ... May%202001

[naba]

Hi girls

Thanks for your messages. I didn't realise how lucky I was to have found this site until just now! you guys are so nice for having just met me as I am a newbie on this site.

I hope everyone is SE Qld survived the storms last night. We lost our power so I was unable to reply. It was quite romantic really, having the house full of candles. I thought I'd write quickly before I run out the door for work. I am usually there by 7.... anyway they'll have to survive without me for a couple of hours.

The wine and pizza was great. By the time we finished that I couldn't eat the chocolate... I was too full. Those of you who have experienced OHSS know that you are so bloated you really can't fit much in. I am looking forward to more wine this weekend.

Bella I had a look at the webste you attached and their story was amazing. It really gives me hope.

Whoever described this process as rollercoaster is spot on. Yesterday I had another angry day filled will sad spells. I think I burst out crying about 5 times , but I think this is a really positive thing. It means that I am not penting it up. It's coming out and nothing is going to stop it.

We went and saw our Dr yesterday. It was really interesting. He told me that he I am responding more to the drugs each time, which we already knew, and he has only seen about two other ladies with this problem. He said it is extremely rare and they don't know why it happens, other than it is associated with PCOS. On the positive side we are really glad that he has seen this before and it gives us hope. We are going to start on 75 next time and see how we go. We haven't given up... we are never going to let this beat us. He said he was sorry etc. but I was glad that she saw us.

We then saw our favourite nurse (although she doesn't know it). She basically agreed with me when I said it sucked. She thought she'd have wine and chocie in sympathy!

I am feeling really positive and good in myself today. We are allowed to start again in two months which gives us something to look forward to. We are going to fill the next months with heaps of fun stuff to keep ourselves preoccupied and to make the most of the time 'off'. My hubbie's birthday is in the meantime so I am thinking of doing something special. I have heaps of ideas but can't write just in case he wants to read this!!

Thanks again for your messages. They were really special. It is nice to know people care. I never thought I would join a chat forum, but it has been invaluable. I laugh , I cry , I get mad with you all on your part of the rollercoaster and it is nice to know that you have done the same for us.

Have a great weekend everyone. Thanks again!

Naba

[Tiger]

Hi Naba,

lovely to hear that you are feeling better today. Hey hey, if you are restarting in 2 months time that means you are cycling in Feb? Looks like we will have a very busy tmt time in this thread in Feb!!

Everyone up in SE Qld, I hope you are all keeping safe...

Tiger

[BelB]

Hey gals,

Naba; so pleased that you are feeling a bit brighter today, and also pleased that you saw your doctor. This fertility business (I will NEVER refer to it as INfertility, it's just too goddamm negative) is really really hard, and chatting to other women in the same circumstances (elecronically or otherwise) is very helpful. I'm really pleased that you feel so supported via this forum.

Tiger, how are you going old chum?

Annie and I arrived in Sydney this morning, it's lovely down here. My family met me at the airport and we got the true Sydney experience in my first hour or two of arriving (got stuck in the traffic!!!! ). I met my sisters new baby Lucca, he is adorable and very very tiny , he is just seven pounds which is very small to me (Annie was nine pounds and just grew every day it seemed)..

Chat soon
Belinda

[jomae]

hi everyone
Sorry I haven't written in a while i had good intentions on catching up with everyone before thursday before my ec but my dog went into labor 4 days early which we didn't expect poor little thing we found her with the pup at 2 oclock she puffed and panted for almost 2 hours before number 2 came along bum first and then 3 hours later and unexpectantly number 3 arrived feet first so we have 3 beautiful puppies all smaller than my palm they are so cute.
Naba sorry to hear about your cancellation how frustrating we can certainly sympathise with you we to thought we would have to cancel this cycle due to a poor response initially. I'm glad your feeling a little better though and are glad you and your hubby have made plans to keep going isn't it funny how at the time of dissappointment we say nope thats it no more it's never going to work and then there we are going through it again but as the doc says each time we have a cycle we learn something new that can help next time which i'm sure will happen for you. so here's fingers crossed for you for your next cycle.

Belb hope your having a great time visiting your family how's Annie hope she's getting spoiled by everyone

My ec was on friday and suprisingly ended up with 9 we were originally told maybe 6 or 7 but ended up with 9 what a stress relief. when we rang the next morning we had 6 that have fertilized (yippee) which we are really happy about. Now we just have to hope the transfer goes well and that this time they hang about a bit longer 9 months longer would be nice.

take it easy all
jo

[ogr1]

hi tiger.
i havent talked with you in a while.
i wanted to check in on you..
you just realy poped in my mind..

[BelB]

Hey Jo,

That's such a great haul!!!, and a great fertilisation rate as well, that's gotta be a good sign of things to come. When is transfer scheduled for??, I have everything crossed for you.

Thanks for asking about our holiday. Annie is having a fabulous time, thoroughly spoilt by family and friends and lapping it up!!!

Chat soon
B