The Over 40 Crowd

Discussion group for all topics related to infertility including preparation for pregnancy, causes, investigation and treatment of infertility.
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BevT
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Post by BevT »

Girls, girls, those shots in the bum sound awful. When I did my ET I had to take progesterone pessaries/suppositries (is that how you spell it?) which was not pleasant but at least I didn't feel like a pin cushion in my but! Guess they do things a bit different in the US.

Good luck with it Randa, thinking of you will all my fingers and toes crossed.
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Post by Kat »

Hi
I had the messy progesterone pessaries too rather than injections. Is this a UK/US thing or just different clinics?

Tammy - do your neighbours overlook your washing line? I can just imagine them wondering why you had holes cut out in your panties...! This week will go quickly, you'll see, it'll be your appt before you know it....

Someone at work today who knows my situation (but obviously had forgotten) said 'oh I'm reading a good book, have you read it, it's really funny?' It was 'Inconceivable' by Ben Elton - all about a couple trying to get pg. I replied something along the lines of 'I'm not sure I'd find it that funny just at the moment' and she went SO red you have never seen anyone that colour!! She was SO apologetic it was quite funny really, bless her. It shows I must be having better days if I found the whole thing amusing....

Waiting to hear possible dates from Spain for the biopsy - want to get going again now...

Unfortunately I think I will have to go and have that D&C - I have had nothing come out at all so it must all still be in there - still don't really know why they gave me the choice when everyone else seems to just get sent for one a couple of days after they find out...I'll call them v soon.

Speak soon
Kat xx
Me & DH both 41
ICSI #1 - abandoned
#2 - cancelled - DH accident
#3 - 1 transferred, bfn
#4 - 2 transferred, bfn
#5 - abandoned
#6 - no eggs at EC
#7 - DE in Barcelona - bfp but lost Dec'05
#8 - DE UK - bfn
#9 - FET Sept/Oct '07....
AMck
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Post by AMck »

Hi lovely ladies, hope everyone OK today. Here is our list

BigJ (Jules) - BFP 9/12/05 praying every day, scan 10th Jan
Randa - EC Jan 31
Amfy-
Anna - Start short cycle 12th Jan
Kat - planning another visit to Spain
Jen - meeting with consultant 27th Jan
Lisa -
Lara - planning IVF in Feb/March
Tammy- Started bc pills 8th Jan, Meeting w/RE & Embryologist on 1/17 to discuss next step
Bev -
Jane -

Jules, hope your scan went well today
On the subject of periods changing due to meds. Mine have never been so heavy. Nurse said it was Ok and better as flushed everything out to start again. What joy! :lol:
On the subject of messy other halves, mine plays football x2 a week. He washes his own kit, hangs it up and puts it away when it's dry! I 'm not complaining, I think he thinks I will ruin it somehow :lol:

A big thank you to all for the support while I was waiting for Af. It seemed to be an eternity. Finally arrived (with avengance!) yesterday., it was day 62 :evil: We have an appointment tomorrow at the clinic and hopefully start short cycle meds on Thursday. Fingers crossed that bloods are OK and we can go ahead. Am anxious, nervous and excited all at the same time!

Buckets of PMA to all
Bye for now
Anna x
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Post by lara »

Hi all,

I love taking my progesterone because it's the ONLY drug I DON'T have to inject, and the worst place for me is the stomach - I don't really mind the bum, probably because mine is now quite LARGE....! I think the pessary/injectible thing varies from clinic to clinic, rather than country to country.

Similarly, Kat, I think the advice re to D&C or not to D&C varies from hospital to hospital - I know people in London who've been told to go home and wait or to choose or advised, like me, to have the scrape to be safe. There's no real right way, I think. D&C is good because it cleans it all out good and proper. By the way, that Ben Elton book is awful, ** badly written, so you didn't miss much! Your poor colleague, she really put her big clod-hopper in it there! Well done for being so easy going about it.

Oh well, back to doing the accounts, cooking supper, hanging out the washing and sorting out my DP's laptop....

Lara xx
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Post by teachertam »

Hello All!

Lara: I agree with you on the progesterone issue. It varies from clinic to clinic. When I was just doing gonal-f and IUI, I did the suppositories, but with IVF, my clinic likes the injectibles.

Kat: You made me laugh regarding my wash! Thanks for the encouragement.

Anna: Glad to hear that you got your AF.

Why is it that whenever you want a baby and have not been able to get pregnant, it seems that everyone around you is pregnant!

Take care All!
Tammy
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Tammy,
I was laughing my butt off while reading your advice with the holes in the panties!!!! And then when Kat chimed in with the wash.... I was rolling! :lol:

I'm probably going to do it just to crack up my dh! Where in the world did you come up with that idea? Did you think of it on your own or did your clinic suggest it? Whoever thought of that should be an inventor! :idea:

Anna - whew!!! AF must be an old old woman by now, but at least she finally got there! So glad. Now you can get on with things.

My clinic is also having me take Medrol for four days beginning on EC day. It is a drug to help with implantation in older women. Does anyone else have to take this?
Randa
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ttc 0, went straight to IVF
1st EC = Feb 05, 5 frosties, no transfer attempt
2nd EC = June 05, cancelled
3rd EC = Sept 05, 4 frosties, no transfer attempt
4th EC/ET = Feb 06, 3 transf., BFN
5th EC/ET = May 06
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Post by teachertam »

Hello All:

Randa: Believe it or not, I got the idea from a book that I read called "The Couple's Guide to In Vitro Fertilization". It has all sorts of good advice.

I've never taken Medrol, but you can bet I'm going to ask my RE about it when I have my appointment next week. My poor doctors, I have a list of 17 questions for them :D. One of them is relating to additional drugs. They had to reschedule me, since I told them that 30 minutes would not be enough time.

Take Care All!
Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Post by AMck »

Hi to all, can't help smiling when i read all the messages on this thread :lol: Pants with holes in the bum,, whatever next!

here's our list
BigJ (Jules) - BFP 9/12/05 praying every day, scan 10th Jan
Randa - EC Jan 31
Amfy-
Anna - Cyst drain and start short cycle Fri 13th Jan
Kat - planning another visit to Spain
Jen - meeting with consultant 27th Jan
Lisa -
Lara - planning IVF in Feb/March
Tammy- Started bc pills 8th Jan, Meeting w/RE & Embryologist on 1/17 to discuss next step
Bev -
Jane -

Jules, how was your scan? Hope everything Ok.

My appointment was a real mix today. Had my scan, it showed 2 cysts (huh what next??), meaning that I couldn't start the meds until after my next AF. I think you can probably imagine how I felt about that! Anyway I threw an almighty hissy fit! I asked what else I could do, the consultant then decided to look back at my record and decided I should go for a cyst drain. I've had one before so know what it's all about. A shame I had to get cross and loud before she listened to me :lol: But who's to say that there wouldn't be another cyst next time as well? I was furious with her and have only just calmed down! The upshot is that on Fri 9am I have the cysts drained then at 11am start the meds for my short cycle ....hurray! Good job I am not superstitious :lol:

PMA to all

Anna x

PS went back and apologised to Dr for my behaviour!!!
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Post by randa2006 »

Anna,
Just to let you know.... my clinic says that some cysts do not pose a problem to IVF. Did they test yours to see if it is one that is absorbing estrogen or not? I have had cysts as well, but mine are the kind that don't mess with the hormones and therefore can be ignored during an IVF. They check by taking a regular blood sample. just fyi in case you need it.
Randa
Me 44, DH 40
ttc 0, went straight to IVF
1st EC = Feb 05, 5 frosties, no transfer attempt
2nd EC = June 05, cancelled
3rd EC = Sept 05, 4 frosties, no transfer attempt
4th EC/ET = Feb 06, 3 transf., BFN
5th EC/ET = May 06
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Post by Jeni Babes »

Hi everyone

I too have been having a laugh about panties with holes!!!

progesterone was given for 10 days after ET in pessary form for me.

Anna- I have posted on your follies thread but again :lol: Hurrah!!!! AF has finally landed and tmt will commence Friday. friday 13th (until hollywood got hold of it) was actully a good luck day. or so the Celts believed...so it sounds positive to me.

randa- Medrol I have never heard of...but will be asking my consultant about it on the 27th. Amazing info about the dates of expiry i have never thought to look but will check my left overs when finished this post! When do you start drugs then? Are you down regging or doing a short cycle or using donor eggs? You must be excited...what is lupron? i couldn't find it my book? ( i know i am full of questions :oops: but i have only had one full ivf so am a relative novice).

Lara & Bev- hi and hugs

Tammy i know what you mean. I can spot a preg lady at 10 paces...and seem to see them everyhwere at the moment. Especially older ones for some reason! ( thats positive though :) )

Kat- i can't believe the docs have left you all that time and that you still haven't had a d&c...sweetheart how hard that must be for you!...Good news on the biopsy front! let us know when you get the dates.

jules thinking of you and sweetie...hope the scan went well.

take care everyone i will catch you either on thursday or on Sunday...i am away visiting family friday- sunday...Anna good luck on friday x

love jen
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Post by lara »

Hello all,

This is all very interesting.

Anna, so pleased about AF, so not-pleased about cysts, but at least you managed to get it so you don't have to wait for your next cycle, well done indeed. I don't know much about cysts except that I always had cysts both times I was pregnant, and I was told they were fine and actually supported the pregnancy because they were full of progesterone. Are you someone who has cysts as part of your fertility problems, or are they caused by fertility drugs like mine were? If the cysts have pus inside them like a cyst in your uterus, you could try taking colloidal silver twice a day. It's completely natural and harmless and has amazing anti-bacterial benefits that are well-documented. I use it a lot for sore throats, abcesses, stomach infections, in fact, anything where bacteria are concerned. Good luck with the drain and start on Fri, and I'm not at all superstitious so don't worry about the date - that's all cobblers.

Wow, Randa, I must score some of that Medrol! The US are much further ahead than the UK in fertility treatment I think - I've never heard of it. I'll ring the Lister and ask them! Sounds great.

I have to work out whether I can do IVF this month or next month. It feels a bit rushed to do it this month but if it's next month so much other stuff will be going on. Oh god it's all so stressy!

Take care all

Lara
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Post by erjumper »

Hi all,
I have so little time to post lately. Been working all the OT I can to get money for this trip to Vegas for our transfer. We leave on the 20th. Bad news is....donor had a smaller number of eggs than we expected so they are concerned that we may not have any make it to blast. Spent a day crying over it. Anyway, what will be will be. I have been reading averyone's posts and sorry I haven't the time to address individuals at this point but wanted to tell you Medrol is a steroid. It is used in cases where the RE will be doing ICSI. It is used to prevent inflammation and a "rejection" so to speak of the sperm when it is force fed to the egg and also during implantation. It is not needed in other cases and having been on a different steroid now for weeks...it irritates the stomach and increases your appetite. Be careful with the bacteriostatic silver. Used over a long period of time it causes malabsorption of your nutrients from the foods you eat. Just as acid blockers like Nexium and Protonix do. More later...back to work.

Lisa
Me-41 DH-28
IVF's
#1 m/c 5 wks
#2 BFN
#3 m/c 9 wks
#4 m/c 8 wks
#5 m/c 5 wks donor eggs
#6 FET BFN
robyn
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will bw 41 this summer 1st ivf cycle

Post by robyn »

Hi All
I will be 41 this summer, i have DD will be 4 this sunday. After birth of
DD i had thyroid problems (hyperactive) anyway have been on medication (PTU) since 09/05. TTC 18 months. I got poor response to the follicle stimulating drugs, at scan they only saw three follicles, only one follilce was present at the EC. Thank goodness that one foll had an egg and it fertilised. On Jan 3rd one 3 day 8 celled grade 4/4 embie was ET. I have only two more days to wait for beta. Just wanted to tell my story and wish everyone BFP+++++++++!

Anyone know if you can still get AF while on pessies??
Thanks for listening it helps me keep PMA!

Robyn
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Post by teachertam »

Hello All!

Robyn: Nice to meet you. We are all crossing our fingers for you :!:
The progesterone is supposed to lengthen your cycle. My last cycle with progesterone was 31 days. It is normally 24 days. I believe that you can get AF while taken the progesterone.

Take care All!
Tammy
Me 46/DH 48 (12/05 & 3/06: IVF#1/#2: BFN)
6/06:Nat. Preg.-DS 2/07; 12/08 IVF#3 fet -BFN
5/09& 6/09 Femara#1/#2-BFN; 7/09 IUI with femara/GF BFN
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Hi ladies, hope all OK today.

Welcome Robyn, good luck tomorrow, fingers crossed!

Kat , how are you? I read about no d&c and couldn't quite believe it. Hope you are OK . Thinking of you.

Thanks to Lara and Randa for info on cysts.
Jen hope you have a great weekend!
Lara, have you decided when to cycle again?
Lisa , sorry to see the news about the donor eggs. What happens next?

Here's our list
BigJ (Jules) - BFP 9/12/05 praying every day, scan 10th Jan
Randa - EC Jan 31
Amfy-
Anna - cancelled cycle :(
Kat - planning another visit to Spain
Jen - meeting with consultant 27th Jan
Lisa -
Lara - planning IVF in Feb/March
Tammy- Started bc pills 8th Jan, Meeting w/RE & Embryologist on 1/17 to discuss next step
Bev -
Jane -

As you can see I have been cancelled again. Have lost count of how many now probably 4 or 5. Am so disappointed. Blood tests showed that my E2 level was too high. Never has been before. This was just a routine test and very unexpected result. Even Nurse couldn't quite believe it. Nurse left a lovely message on my answer phone (Katie from QM, Kat) I can't ring back as is too late and clinic closed. Will ring tomorrow and ask more questions. Seems like I am in waiting again :twisted: :twisted:
I can't beleive that we started this IVF journey last Feb and still haven't got to EC stage. We have unexplained infertility so don't know if I had cysts before or that they are a result of IVF drugs. Any advice?

PMA to all
from a very frustrated Anna x
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