Pheonixes Rising

[gailp]

Lucy it cant be easy for you, don’t go back to work until you feel ready. St Johns Wort I think is a herbal anti –depressant, I don’t know if that works or if you can take it while on IVF but maybe worth looking into.

MLG Lunch at near the seaside sounds fantastic, at least it gave you a break from work. Im giving my cat lots of TLC, still having to take him out for a walk as he wont go out on his own.

Jen so sorry to hear your Dad took a turn for the worse, thank goodness he is getting better now, I can imagine that he is devasted having gone through all that to find that it hasn’t worked. Will he in time be able to have another operation?

Hope the film cheered you up a bit Lisa, what was it? A two hour walk that’s really good, bet it blew the cob webs away!

Julie a little while ago we had a thread on here about the stupid things people say, what your Sister said is such a typical thing that people that don’t understand it say.

I have got my follow up appointment with the clinic tomorrow, just trying to think of things to ask.

[Jeni Babes]

Hi all

Dad has continued to fight back and is even better today...just going in to see him soon.

Smita thanks for your kind words, as ever you are a star. You must be getting very excited about the birth now as you only have appox 6 wks to go. How wonderful it will be for you to get back home to your own house with your new baby and hubby...

Lucy- I have pm'ed you...Hugs sweetie...

Lisa and Nicky- i feel low too. I honestly do think it is SAD as this time of the year it gets dark so early. YEUK! I can't even be bothered to walk for the train today and took my car the 4.5 miles to work.
But so what... i think if we don't give ourselves a break now then who will!!!! We are all the time dealing with the stress of looking after our bodies and worring before/after and all through our extensive tmt's of IVF/IUI etc...Time i feel to stop pushing and give ourselves a break....I know i am ranting on a bit here but i do think it we are hard on ourselves... Hugs to you both!!

Julie- I know it's so tough when others don't understand what it's like for us going through tmt, especially when it's family. Hugs...
Please don't worry about stats...each case is so individual. With my 1st IVF tmt i didn't respond ( even tho i had had 2 natural pregnancies) but on the 2nd they got the meds right and we went all the way to 2ww. Try and take it all a day at a time instead of looking at the outcome...
Hard i know but my doc said to me, ' when you empty a 5000 piece jigsaw out on the table it can become overwhelming. If you start putting each piece together eventually you have a finished picture..to do this you have to focus on one bit at a time...' I hope you understood that, but it helped me stay at each stage of tmt... hugs x x

Take care
and hi to all the other Pheonixes Lola MLG Gail and sally

loving hugs
jen
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx

[rachel1]

hi pheonixes

i would like to join all of you ladies. clinic called yesterday with the date of my consultants review, 15th of march, so i finally have a date to look forward to.

jen, posted to you on another thread about your dad. glad he's getting better.

interesting that you mention it getting dark early because i recently read about research that found ivf cycles done in winter have a slightly lower success rate due to the shorter day light hours and the effect that has on your body. of course there is also research that says this is a lot of pants but seeing as we will hopefully all be cycling when the days are longer i'm willing to believe it! oh yes, i am clutching at straws but anything that points to the next cycle being the ONE is good for me.

have to read this thread to get up to speed. take care everyone.

rachel

[Jeni Babes]

Rachel- welcome to the thread!!!!
Good to have you onboard...in everything you said anything that helps us keep positive is good. I think that March is a good month to cycle...It's a time when the sap begins to rise... ha ha! ( funnier jokes are welcome girls!) anyway take your time and catch up with us all. x


Gail- You were at the consultant today... how did it go?

Nicki- what date are you actually moving house? Are you hooked on CelebBB too. Who's your fav? and who do you loath? and whats going on with Chantelle and Prest-stud?

How is everyone else doing?

My dad is going from strength to strength, he has just this second called me to say he should be out soon.. Woo hoo!!! Although they are not sure if the heart operation worked, it's good that he was so low and ill in intensive care and now doing well. I feel i can relax now!!!

Talk to you all soon
love jen
xxxx

17th Jan--GAIL-consultation
19th Jan--MLG- consultation
23rd Jan--Lola - HSG
27th Jan--JEN- meeting with consultant.
Jan--NICKI- moving house & getting fit for
IVF/IUI in Summer. (also starting new job)

22nd Feb--LUCY- meeting with consultant.
23rd Feb--LISA- Dh's biopsy
25th Feb--JEN--Friends birthday Party
26th Feb--JEN-Dinner Dance

15th March--RACHEL- Meeting with consultant.
March--NICKI and DH wedding Anniv.
March--NICKI-Consultation with Clinic .
March--GAIL on hols in Egypt.
March/April--LUCY- starting tmt.

3rd April-LISA--Mamma Mia
April/May--GAIL- FET.
April- - JEN- on hols in France.
May-- NICKI on hols.
May--LISA- going to see Little Britain.
July--LISA--starting tmt.
July--JULIE-- starting 1st ICSI tmt.

Sally, Lola and Rachel any more dates to add? ( anything to break up the months to go tmt?)

[Julie2039]

Hi All (Jen - love the header!)

Rachel - Welcome!! - whereabouts on intro thread are you so I can see your history?

Great news Jen about your dad. Bet you feel tons better . As for BB, it is lots better than I thought it would be when the "oh so famous" (not) celebs went in.....Not sure on who my favourite is but Michael needs to come out (again!) as he is nut bar , George....very calculating to win and he shouldn't as back stabber , Pete....have to say even though he is cutting and wears fur I think he is really quite funny. Apparently Preston and Chant had nookie (unsure of what level) after his birthday bash last night so tonight's episode is not to be missed! (Terrible I enjoy that element of it - poor girlfriend ...).

Lisa - Hope you are feeling bit chirpier today .

Gail - Hope appointment went well.

I feel bit more positive about things. Reading Zita's bible and preparing my diet and wonder how I am going to drink so much water without actually drowning... but the wait is now starting to drive me mad. So near yet so far.

Any views on acupuncture to relax and destress?

Hope everyone else is ok.
Speak soon
Julie x

[gailp]

I had my follow up consultation today, it went fine. We weren’t told anything that we didn’t know already and in some ways it seemed a bit of a waste of time. The good news is that we can cycle whenever we want to. Depending on the timing of AF and also our holiday, we hope to start cycling beginning of March. My AF can be a bit unpredictable I am 5 days late at the moment so March may turn into April

Welcome Rachael, the days should be longer in March so I am happy to believe everything you say. Will this be your first cycle?

Jen my jokes are crap so I will leave it up to you to try and be the funny one. I cant get into big brother this time, I have always loved it before but I don’t like anyone in the house this year. That is fantastic news about your Dad, what a relief.

Julie I tried Acupuncture last cycle and will probably do so again this time. I don’t enjoy it at the time but it definitely reduced my stress levels so must be worth it.

Hi to everyone else

[Sallyc]

Hi girls,
i am really sorry for not being around for so long. I felt I needed a break since all I did was whining *g* and believe me u don’t want to listen to that (poor hubby).

Jen, all the best for your dad, hope he will be out of hospital soon and back to good health.

I will have to do some reading to catch up with all of u but that will have to wait until the week after next, sorry.

Got 2 dates to add to the list, plz. First one is the 20. of Jan., I will have several tests done for my pcos such as glucose intolerance, thyroid and hormone levels. Second one is the 23. of Jan. which is my pre-admission apptm. in London. At least it’s something to look forward to. The nurse told me on the phone that they changed my protocol from a day 2 start to a day 22 start…not sure what that means but the paperwork should arrive soon.

After the appointment on Monday me and hubby will go on a weeks leave to his parents in Cornwall. Really looking forward to that. Long walks on the beach (plz don’t rain…*g*)

Also I ordered Zitas book 2day. Hoping it will arrive before Monday *lol*

Sending a big ((((((HUG)))))) to all of u lovely ladies. I will try and drop in before we r leaving on Monday morning. If i don’t make it i´ll speak to u the week after next.

Take care!!!

[Lis]

Hi Girlies!

Sorry its been a while since I posted. Since Sunday I've been either working late, trying to catch up with friends or at the gym. I still feel low but am trying to not think about it. Is it just me or does anyone get upset just talking to preg. friends?? One of my close pals is due Feb, right after dh's biopsy - we were trying at the same time and I think that's why I feel it even more. Just talking to her upsets me - I don't want not to ask her about ante natal classes, etc but it kills me to do so and so when I finished talking to her on Sunday I was in floods of tears all night. I didn't want to call her Sunday cos of that and ruin my day off but dh said I should make the effort since I hadn't returned her previous call for same reason. When I meet up with her I have to psych myself up and inevitably end in tears after. We're going out for dinner one week Saturday (with our dh's). I think I'm going to have to down some large glasses of wine in order to cope.

Welcome Rachel - I'm definitely for that seasonal thing you mentioned . Good to have you on board.

Sally - nice to have you back!

Jen, great news about your Dad. That's really great - you must feel so much better. And loved the PHOENIX train!

Julie - family - what are they like?? My mother in law asked recently if it might "just happen naturally" for us - does she not realise what zilcho sperm means !!!??? Rise above it PS just can't get in to celebrity BB so you'll have to keep me updated.

Gail - fab news about you being able to cylce soon. Time will fly by for you esp. with your hols coming soon

MLG - how's thing with you??

Lola - hope life is treating you a wee bit better this week and not all

Lucy - sending you oodles of PMA and hugs. Hope you managed to come to a decision on the medication. You have to do what feels right.

Nicki - how's all the prep going for the move??

Also have another date - got tickets to see Ben Elton doing stand up on 20th Feb. Thought dh and I could do with some laughter therapy prior to biopsy.

Well night all!!

[MLG]

Hello ladies

I’ve had a hard time lately, the worst since before tmt. Seems like all the rollercoaster ride of emotions that I didn’t go through with tmt is doubled (at least) now, except I don't have highs (just almost-normal-feeling).
To make it even worse a colleague of mine got wild at me for something small I did, with absolutely so intention of hurting her. Considering that I thought her more than just a work-mate and more of a friend, it hurt me buckets (being fragile after BFN doesn’t help) that she be so unreasonable and not even talk it over with me. And the fact that she knows what I’ve gone through (not that I told her, but I know she knows) makes it even worse!

Today was my first more-or-less normal day, at least my mood has been more controlled and less depressed. Still keeping up with the exercise , and trying to do different things to keep me occupied (went to the cinema on Monday) . Believe it is helping, even though things have been very difficult.

Julie – So far there’s not much I can say about the family knowing. The in-laws are not talking about the tmt (DH told them about it too), I think they know I’m not up to it now and it’s their way of helping at this time. I thought it’d be awkward the first time we were together after they knew, but all was fine.
With my parents (specially Mom) I mostly feel relieved. I’ve always shared my life with them and it felt wrong (even though for the right reasons) to keep something so important from them. We haven’t talked about anything since, but I feel their silent support and know they’ll be there when I need to talk.
Don’t have any siblings, and DH’s hasn’t had a chance to talk to his sister (not a thing to talk to over the phone unless you have to!).

Sally – You whine and vent and rave as much as you need, that’s what we’re here for each other. But I do understand that sometimes we need a break.

Gail – Glad things went well with your consultation. Good luck with your cycle, it must feel good to have a (approximate) date to look forward to!

Jen – So glad your dad is better! You must be feeling so relieved! I went through my father’s cancer treatment a few years ago and it was very hard!

Welcome Rachel. Keep up the PMA, longer days – better moods …..

Lucy – Hope you’re feeling better and I certainly understand your worries, I’d be going through quite the same!! (guess I’m the depressed one now)

Smita – Thanks for your support. How are you?

Lis – Hope you feel better by tomorrow.

Lola – Feeling better? I’ve been sending some “good vibes” your way (on the few moments I have a few to spare!


Nicki – Where are you? All OK?


Love to all Pheonixes
xxxxx

[rachel1]

hi girls and thanks for the welcome.

mlg, sorry you had an altercation with a friend/colleague, it's definitely not what you need at the moment. sometimes emotions can be delayed so maybe all the stress and anxiety of tmt is only coming to the fore now. as they say, better out than in, so try to let go of them because better times are definitely ahead. hang in there, you 'll get through.

lis, you're not the only one to feel like that about pregnant friends. does she know what you're going through? if she does i'm sure she understands that her pregnancy may not be your favourite topic (at least i hope so!).
i've got 2 friends who are pregnant, well wives of friends but that doesnt make it any easier, plus my SIL. i always ask how they're doing but don't ask for any further details. it's very difficult and i know it's incredibly selfish and bad of me but i'm dreading the births. do you think it would be terrible of me to refuse to see them until they're 18???

sally, have a great time in cornwall, sounds very idyllic, long walks along the beach. good luck with the tests and change in protocol.

gail, great news that you can start cycling whenever you want. do you plan to go on holidays before or after?

julie, i joined in oct so it must be pages and pages back. your question made be finally update my profile so now you can see that i got a bfn this month. i forgot to include i had a cancelled cycle in nov because i didn't respond to the drugs but i consider that more of a trial run. i've only got one tube and it's blocked.
see you're doing your 1st icsi in july. i know the waiting is head wreaking but patience is a huge asset in this game. good luck with your preparation before tmt and keep drinking that water!

jen, how's you dad doing? do you know when he's getting out? hope you're doing ok yourself sweetie.

lucy, hope you're starting to feel better with or without meds. you've been through so much that it may be good to have an extra help in getting back on your feet properly even if that means delaying the next cycle. take care of yourself.

smita, how are you? not long now!

take care everyone
rachel

[Julie2039]

Hi girlies, nearly friday!

Hope you are all well.

Rach - Thanks for the update - sorry you have had such a rough time of it and wish you well in your future tmt and good luck for your appt in March. Yes, the waiting is not easy but on reflection it has gone quicker than I thought so should be here before I know it.

Lis - I agree with Rach and it is difficult. I went through a stage where it was pregnant friend after pregnant friend and I went from not being able to look at them without filling up to being angry and jealous and also not being able to take my eyes off their stomach and yes its unfair and rubbish. Hope the meal goes ok

BB Update - Faria went (hurrah!) - deserved it after the racist jibe about us "English people". Preston & George have nominated Rula, Tracey & Maggot with full explanations via tv link to the rest of the house (unbeknown to P&G) as a punishment for discussing noms. Nothing else happenin!


MLG - Glad sharing it with your families worked out . You do need the support. I told my parents every step off the way just because I am like that and it is the type of relationship we have and it is a great help. There are times I wish I hadn't been so open with friends etc because I do get sick of discussing things sometimes and can't always face it but they all mean well which is the main thing and they are there when we need them.

Sorry to hear you are feeling really low. I have the knack of throwing things to the back of my mind which I have managed to do 90% of the time over the past 2 years in particular but it has come back to bite me big time since xmas and am at a low ebb myself. Taking each day as it comes but it is hard. Off on a girlie nite out tomorrow for plenty of double vodkas. I will have a couple of extra ones just for you for you (and for Lucy - hope you are on the up too ). Chin up honey xx

Hope everyone else is ok.

Julie xxx

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[luby]

Hi Ladies

Lis - I know exactly how you feel about talking to preg women, close to you or not, my step sister is due in March, so she's out buying all the stuff she needs and I have to hear about it, I know they don't mean to hurt me but it really does hurt. Lis my family went out over xmas my step sister was there, the thing is I hadn't had a drink since well before Nov, with treatment and everything so this was my first drink, so I was on the wine, anyway it made me worse, seeing her there and people talking about the pregnancy I got so upset, I think your true feelings come out when you've had a drink, so don't be getting upset hun, go for that meal and try be strong. You'll be fine. We'll get our chance one day.

MLG - I'm dreading going back to work on Monday, I've had 2 months off now, the thing is there are 2 preg women in my dept and with the way I'm feeling at min, very down, I'm not sure how I'll cope, I know I have to go in there and hold my head up high and get on with it, but sometimes it's easier said than done. As for your work colleague she should be a bit more understanding with what you have been through, some people just don't think and can be quite insensative. I'm glad the excercise is helping you, I have now started the gym, it wasn't easy my first time, I haven't been in about 6/8 months but I'll get there, I'm hoping this is going to make me feel better as I don;t really want to go down the medication road. Take Care Hun.

Rachel - I know what you mean about delaying the cycle, my mum said the same, the thing is I have very high FSH and have been told I'm going through early Menopause, therefore I don't feel I have much time, my last cycle my FSH was 23.7, so I'm so scared that it is just going up and up and I won't get another chance, so I'm hoping to do it as soon as really, but believe me if I had all the time in the world, as I'm only 25 I would have a rest from IVF and prob try later in year or even next year as I'm going through a lot at mo, but I keep thinking I might not have a chance then (with my own eggs anyway) So I'm trying a different approach to make me feel better, lets hope it works. People keep saying to me, once your back at work you'll feel better, I'm not so sure.....
Take Care.

Jen- Just want to say thank you to you.

Any other Phoenixes I've missed, hope your all doing well.

Lucy

[NickiMark]

Hi girls!!!!

I am back!!! Sorry just been pushed for time of late, you know how it is...... but thought I would just pop in to say I am fine!!!!

Life is crazy, still no move date.....Arhhh!!! Had a bad day at work, just a insenitive person talking about babies etc....... anyway, other than that ok........Just too much to do and not enough time!!!

Anyway, just to let u know I am ok, just to tied up!!!!

And BB, has been fab, dont always watch, but catch it when I can
Chantelle, must win!!!!

Love to ya all xxxx

[Jeni Babes]

I just popped in to say HI to ya all...
Dad's getting out tonight so am staying at my parents to give mum a hand...

I will catch up with all your news at weekend

LOVE jen
xxxx

[Lis]

Hi Girlies

Just a quickie for now and will catch up more over the weekend. So excited its nearly the weekend. Yepee!!

Jen great news about your Dad!!

Love to you all

Lisa xxx