NOV/DEC 2009 -- Cycle Group

[hjw]

Wow, is it me or is this thread really slowing down? We don't seem to be running at 3 pages a day anymore!!

Katie - I've been thinking of you all day, hope this morning's u/s and b/w brought positive news, and that you had a safe journey there and back. Keeping all my fingers, toes and the dogs' paws crossed for you!!

justwannabamom - I've been thinking of you too! How did ER go? Report in when you can... So sorry about your back pain - did RE gave the OK for some stuff for you to take to relieve the pain?

tc4474 - those blast grades seem like great ones! Hope they're snuggling in, are you resting well? I don't get any valium for ET at my clinic, nothing at all in fact. But I found it OK, so I was fine without anything to relax me - it wasn't really any worse than doing an IUI, just took slightly longer.

Syanna and sarah_ruth - hurray to both of you for being PUPO! Hope you are putting your feet up and being pampered by your DH's!

Honey34Bunny - so sorry to hear about your m/c but you sound positive and happy about seeing your new RE. Best of luck with your next cycle.

BRMommy2B - GL for your u/s tomorrow.

claud662 - don't give up hope, your spotting doesn't sound as if it's really heavy and lots of woman have quite a bit of spotting and are still pregnant. When do you expect to get the call with the results of your test?

AFM, I had another u/s this morning (day 10 of stims). The cyst on my right ovary is bigger than it was on Monday (it is now measuring 40mm x 30mm) but again the sonographer (it was a different one this time) didn't seem concerned and said that the doctor who does my ER will probably just drain it at the same time. I have four measurable follicles on the right side and five on the left, the largest of which is currently 16mm and the smallest of which is 11mm. They want me to stay on the same dose of Gonal-F and go back on Saturday for u/s and b/w - they will make the decision then about ER, but on current growth rate it seems most likely that I may trigger Sunday night and have ER on Tuesday morning. But we'll see.

Catch you all later,
Hazel

[Eol]

Hi Ladies,

Claude, I am so sorry about your issues, but keep a place in your heart for any outcome, until you know. I know prepping yourself for the worst is good, so the let down doesn't hurt as much (I am a pro at this myself), but keep some hope in there until all is sure.

Honeybunny and Cheekyone: So sorry about m/s. Thinking of you.

Syanna- Sending you super implantation energy.

Katie- I totally get your breakdown. There is something awful about having to drive in the snow far away to get judged! and maybe be told you can't have what you want. I almost broke into tears when I went for my CD3 u/s and the RE wasn't positive about moving ahead with stims. I can only imagine your struggle. You are a kind and thoughtful person and I am sending warm (((((hugs))))).


Sarah_ruth, I guess the preparing for the worst speech I just gave to cheeky one applies to you. I totally understand the bad feelings, and even with that- keep a small place there somewhere for PUPO!!!!!

Hazel, Thinking of you- hoping all is moving forward!

AFM, I started shots last night- and go back to RE tomorrow. Not sure if it is just bloods or U/S as well. Will keep you posted.

[katie99]

Hi girls -

I'm sorry I was MIA last night, I was just exhausted, more mentally than anything, I zoned in front of the tv, and fell asleep super early ( guess getting up at 4:30 these past few days got to me. So today's drama gets worse (of course) At u/s this morning I now only have 1 crazy follie that jumped from 20 yesterday to 25 in only 24 hrs! my other one that was 16 yesterday is now smaller today its 14. I'm waiting for the call to decide my fate. I really want him to cancel me. To answer Q's from the last drama, no cancellations dont count as far as my package goes, But I have a bad feeling RE will want to go through with ER anyway. Please girls send me some cancel vibes! I dont want to waste the last try with this doc with 1 follie thats already too big to trigger (at this rate the darn thing could be 30 before he gets me on the table!) To add more fun, my DH is adament (sp?) about NOT going to ER with just 1. I agree, but its breaking my heart to see how depressed this makes him. Keep in mind theres nothing wrong with him - all infertility falls on my problems. Its just not fair! I only need my psychotic acting ovaries to work normally ONCE!
I dont understand why they wont just give me a few good eggs? They can retire for all I care after that! Well, its now 12pm so the longer I dont hear from the RE the more I think they are going to trigger me - I unfortunately know from experience that when RE cancels you, he tends to call earlier. Boy, do i hope that its just no call yet because he's super busy. thank you all for your advice, kind words & support. You all are on my mind, and always in my prayers - I'm just kind of wrapped up in ivf limbo right now ( also known as hell) Sorry you guys all these hormones are driving me slowly mad!

[gi]

katie i am gonna be greedy and send you some "cancellation vibes" so you can then cycle with me again

[hjw]

Oh Katie, ((((((((((((((((((((((((hugs)))))))))))))))))))))))))). I'm so sorry, what an awful time you're having. What on earth is that dominant follie doing growing 5mm in 24 hours - I suppose they're certain it's a follie not a cyst or something?? And the other 16mm one shrinking to 14mm, I've never heard of that before! What are the three 10mm follies doing today, are they at least behaving more normally?

I guess if what you've done so far won't count towards your package, I understand you prefering to cancel and try for better next time rather than go ahead. So if you really want cancel vibes, then that's what I'm sending you over the pond, here they come...

H x

[turtle0619]

katie i am soooo sorry. i can feel your stress in my heart!
i never thought i would be wishing for you to be canceled but this cycle is totally nuts. dont you have the choice if you want to cancel? i'm here for you always!

afm i got my new baby in a box...lets hope there is really a baby in it this time!! now all that is left to do is wait and see! i am starting my acupunture today, and i'm so excited to see what its like. i kinda wish infertility was something you could really feel...like a sprain...so i could feel a difference and know if acupuncture was working, but i wont know until i have a successful cycle i guess, and even then..who knows? i'm gonna pretend that its helping! [/b]

[katie99]

Acckk! Whats taking RE so long to call? dont they understand what this means to us? I think they forget that we're pumped full of hormones and stressing all the time. I'm now doing the PLEASE cancel me dance! Although my DH is telling me to refuse to go if they dont cancel us. Does this ever get any easier?


moorebaby -Thank you for that info!

Hazel -My dear friend, I'm sorry that you were worried about me, I'm just fine. Just wishing to finally get off of the ivf roller coaster -( funny that i dont care for real roller coasters either!) I'm so glad that your follies are growing evenly! Thats half the battle right there. Thank your pups for crossing their paws for me! Thanks, hon, I needed a laugh today.
I"m over the moon for your next u/s going as well as today's did. How are you feeling?

TC- Hooray PUPO!! 5AA & 5AB is as good as it gets!

Franny -Whoo Hoo for a new basement & not having purple paw prints everywhere! - yippee for a new baby in a box. I cant believe that you cant get away from that wrong pharmacy. But at least its all squared away before your trip to NY - xoxo

EOL -thanks! I've got my fingers crossed for you! GL with stims!

Skylar -Hang in there for the 2ww - how great that you can snag an earlier beta at work!

Kelly -thanks! Oh, no sciatic pain is the worst - hope your ER went well!


BRMommy2b -good luck with both u/s - crossed for a healthy thaw!

SarahRuth -PMA - remember that you are still brimming over with hormones! I'll re post the embie chart for you

[justwannabamom]

Claud so sorry about your bleeding! ((((Hugs))))
Hazel yes this thread is slowing down a lot. Must just b because so many are past the point that there is much to report! Glad to hear your RE isn't concerned with the cyst! That is good news!
Sarah ruth congrats on the blast! Hopefully you get to freeze a few too!
Eol yeah for starting stims! Good luck!
Katie I really hope your RE decides to cancel since that is what u prefer! I am so sorry that is has had to come to this for you. I am glad though that you will b able to try again if need be.
AFM on our way home from retrieval now. I am very happy! RE got 11 eggs which is 2 more than he had been telling me he saw. And DH had enough sperm to ICSI them all. I was worried about DH sperm since his counts have been dropping and we weren't sure if he would have any left today.So now we wait for them to call with fert report and the RE will decide based on that if we do day 3 or day 5 transfer! I am so excited to have made it this far with all the ups and downs. Thanks for all the support you guys have given me!

[katie99]

OMG can there be any more drama in this crazy cycle? RE finally called, and wanted to still go to ER with just the 1 follie, he said there MAY be a 2nd by the time of ER. I told him that I was too afraid to blow the last try with 1 follie that grew too big too fast, I mean I only ended up having menopur for 2 nights, thats the med that really helps to mature the egg.
I ended up in tears again, and I think then he realized the human side to all of this - I mean there are RE's that would have pushed me to donor way long before this. I think once I reminded him that we're self pay and this is the last try of our package, in tears again he re thought it and said that we should cancel. I never thought I would be pushing to be cancelled! But he also said that this whole cycle has been atypical (abnormal) How could we feel comfortable with just 1 follie that wasnt acting normal in the first place? but I feel it was the right decision. Isnt it funny how every single day in a cycle things can change so quickly? Jeez - I have a headache from all of this -

Claud -I'm sorry that the spotting is freaking you out - I'm holding out for it to only be implantation spotting, or just plain old ivf spotting. When will you get your results? I cant believe that they have you waiting since yesterday - HUGS

Gi -thanks! I miss you - Where are your blood results? Will it be much longer til they come in? - xoxo

Hazel - I'm so glad to hear that your cyst wont be a problem for you - Yes, the time difference is driving me crazy too - Now all of my PMA has to go to your cycle winning you a BFP! Your support has meant so much to me - bummed that we live Soooo far away from each other - I would so beat you at golf -xoxo

Franny -Oh, Yeah! theres gonna be a baby in this new "baby in a box!" Let me know how your accupuncture goes, realy whats a few more needles at this point, right? Are you just loving your new basement? xoxo

Kelly -WHHOOOO HOOO for 11 eggs!!!! You must be thrilled! I'm so happy that there were 2 more hiding from you!

Sarah -sorry I forgot to repost that chart for you - I'll do it right now

hugs & prayers to all of us! --xoxo

[katie99]

1dpt... Embryo is growing and developing
2dpt... Embryo is now a blastocyst
3dpt... Blastocyst hatches out of shell on this day
4dpt... Blastocyst attaches to a site on the uterine lining
5dpt... Implantation begins,as the blastocyst begins to bury in the lining
6dpt... Implantation process continues and morula buries deeper in the lining
7dpt... Morula is completely inmplanted in the lining and has placenta cells &
fetal cells
8dpt... Placenta cells begin to secret HCG in the blood
9dpt... More HCG is produced as fetus develops
10dpt... More HCG is produced as fetus develops
11dpt... HCG levels are now high enough to be immediately detected on HPT

5 Day Transfer (if your transfer is done on the 6th day please adjust according to the timeline based upon how the embryo was doing by 1-2 days {e.g. blastocyst was hatching from the shell}):

-1dpt... Embryo is growing and developing
0dpt... Embryo is now a blastocyst
1dpt... Blastocyst hatches out of shell on this day
2dpt... Blastocyst attaches to a site on the uterine lining
3dpt... Implantation begins,as the blastocyst begins to bury in the lining
4dpt... Implantation process continues and morula buries deeper in the lining
5dpt... Morula is completely inmplanted in the lining and has placenta cells &
fetal cells
6dpt... Placenta cells begin to secret HCG in the blood
7dpt... More HCG is produced as fetus develops
8dpt... More HCG is produced as fetus develops
9dpt... HCG levels are now high enough to be immediately detected on
HPT

[claud662]

So I just got the call from the nurse and they want me on Estrace 2x day and oral prometrium 3x day along with my PIO shots. My numbers went down and my e2 is 167 and progesterone is 12.7. Not looking good and they want me to come in regardless of if I get AF or not on Sunday for Beta test. I know the outcome is negative and just want to look ahead to the next step and how they are going to prevent this next time.

The RE just emailed me back and said she doesn't know why I spot because they usually see this type of drop in people that have low ovarian reserve (not people that produce a lot of eggs) and if I am in fact negative she wants me to have a rest month and then start up again the following month. I really hate this journey so far and just have to think that one day I will have a BFP and I can't wait until then...

Will do personals later.

[hjw]

Katie, my heart breaks for you, after everything you've been through this year, having this cycle go the way it did was the very last thing you deserved. I'm devastated for you and DH. I know that you actually wanted to cancel, and at least you get another clear run at this, but I truly thought this was going to be your time. It's just not going to be the same going through my cycle without my twin matching me app't for app't. I'm not sure what you do now - do you have to take a trigger shot and, if so, can you try and get pregnant the 'old fashioned way' over the weekend when those eggs get released? Do you have to meet your RE to discuss how it went and when you can cycle again? I'm assuming he will change up your protocol so this doesn't happen again?

((((((((((hugs)))))))))) to you and DH.

Hazel xxx

[hjw]

justwannabamom - OMG, you even got 2 more eggs than they expected! What a difference a week makes, huh? Hope you're getting some rest and not feeling too uncomfortable. Can't wait to hear the fertilisation report.

turtle - so I'm dying to know how you and DH found your acupuncture! I totally swear by mine, it has improved my digestion, reduced period pains, healed separate wrist and knee injuries, and done various other things over the time I've been having it, and I'm also convinced that it helped us in our first fresh cycle (my DH has poor sperm motility, a history of sperm antibodies and we got 5 out of 6 eggs fertilised after he'd been for acupuncture, which we never expected in our wildest dreams - it's set our expectations high for this time around!).

Eol - GL for your app't tomorrow, report in when you get home!

claud662 - I'm so sorry to hear that your numbers dropped, but I'm sure they wouldn't get you to take the extra meds if they didn't think there was a chance. I'm really praying that Sunday brings you some good news. (((((hugs)))))

Hazel

[Skylar]

Claud662 I am sorry about your bleeding, I know how discouraging it is, I really hope everything goes really well for you. Maybe the meds, they are putting you on will change some things.
Katie I am happy and sad for you, I am sad that this has to be a difficult process for you, I even remember you having a hard time with the delivery boy for the baby in the box. Then I am happy for you because this next IVF is like a new slate. You can start all over. I know it's hard to keep a good pma but, I know you are able to do it.
hjw I am glad that in about a week you will be PUPO. You can join the club. I hope you can trigger soon, I know I couldn't wait when I had to do it.
Sarah ruth Don't count it as a miss, You transfered a better egg than us, we only transfered two morula about to turn to blast. I would love to have one blast, but it did not plan like that. Guess what, me and dh are still excited that we may have a baby, so should you. We always have this idea that everything will be so wonderful and trouble free but, sometimes you have to jump a few hurdles to get the prize. I am hoping this a baby getting cozy in your belly.
Syanna Congrats, PUPO.

[katie99]

Hazel -Yes, this definitely has been a rough year - i was so hoping to end it on a good note. But I still feel that ER w/ just 1 follie was too risky. I may have felt differently if the cycle didnt turn bizarre the way it did. It started out so good, though... Yes, i have to still take trigger shot tonight or RE said AF might not come for a while. But no old fashioned way for me, he had to remove my totally blocked tubes last year so we could try ivf. apparently the fliud inside them could leak backwards into the uterus and its toxic to embies. So it was better to remove them, since they werent patent anyway. He said we'll have to do some suppression again, BCPs because look what happened without suppression - my ovaries had a party and went crazy in there. He put me on his Feb schedule, so right back to the beginning - UGH! But I'm not going anywhere yet, I'll still be here to cheer you on! Now its time for you to grab that BFP! quick, before all of us childless women start dressing up our dogs -tee hee xoxo

Claudia -I'm so hoping that adding more meds does the trick for you. I'll keep you in my prayers. It may turn out to be just ivf spotting
try to take it easy and relax - xoxo

Skylar -thanks! I'm so hoping that this WILL be your time! We all have to stay positive through this, but i wouldnt wish infertility on my worst enemy. Well this time i shouldnt have any med delivery drama, I already have most of them