Awaiting Treatment

[ICSI GIRL]

OMG girls!!! good thing i popped in on saturday -- there's NO WAY i'd be able to catch up w/ all that's been going on!

first things first........

NIMS ---- calm down sweetie........the babies were FINE on Friday...... your body is just getting rid of "stuff" it doesn't need up there...... ya know how steph's got a party in her pants going on????? well, you're party has unwanted guests leaving now keep us posted........

shantala -- you're sounding so much like your old self!! maybe finally getting a little energy back??? good luck w/ getting house all squared away before your bundle of joy arrives!! you never did say --- what COLORS?????????

wishful/carolyn ---- good for u on getting all your decorations down!! YOU GO GIRL!! in fact, i can join in on that parade --- cuz i got all mine down this weekend too!!! YEAH FOR US! ya know -- don't second guess yourself about "should have saved for treatment" --- will get ya nowhere fast hun.......did you have a LOVELY holiday season?? (am hoping your answer is YES) -- then you did the right thing for where you are in life right now.........is all so difficult -- i know....we all know......but fortunately ------ we have EACHOTHER!!!!!!!!!!!!

hope --- oh wow....that would be tough having boys 3.5 hours away!! our guys are just across the lake........we live on one side and mom lives on the other.....a mere 5 min away -- and am suddenly thinking LUCKY ME after your read!!! wow....that could take a toll -- that's for sure! you're SO right on the schools of different thought on timing of putting back embies........and you've read how our pals across the pond don't even have 5 day'ers as an option???? i don't know -- i could probably buy into either if given enough evidence!! i have a love/hate relationship w/ the internet cuz there is SO DAMN MUCH info out here -- you can find anything to support whatever you might be thinking!!! either way --- i had just recently read an article (written by a fertility specialist) bascially saying should always take to blast stage cuz that is a true sign of viability......that if they can't make to day 5 outside of momma -- that they wouldn't have made it INSIDE......???????? and that doing 3dt allows clinic/docs to "shift" the blame (not a good word, but couldn't think of another) onto patient instead of them having to be held accountable.......that's it's a mental game......all so confusing........on round 1 we did 3 day transfer --- bfn...........so honestly --- am trusting that my doc knows what he's doing!!! and yes -- thanks so much for remembering --- my birthday week!!! woo-hoo!! (my b-day actually on friday, jan 11) -- but dh's is TODAY.....all i want for birthday is a BFP!!!

rachel --- rest up hun!!! sounds like you are needing lots & lots of sleepy time these days!! is awesome that you have the option of staying home.....and when you have some energy -- you come back and see us!! even for a good read as we keep this thread the busiest one out here!!!

steph --- ha, ha, ha -- steph has a party in her pants!! too bad it isn't the pool boy doing the bow-chick-a-bow-bow thang!!! didn't ya see yer swimmin turtle --- all your little spermies have to do is GET ON BOARD!!! STOP POAS YOU DORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (atleast the O sticks) you are going to give yourself a damn heart attack before your baby even gets here!!! did ya ever go back far enough to find the conversation about jamaicans jacking off????? i about LMAO as i was reading that!!! too funny!!! pretty cool about the new job potential!! is it one you already applied for?? or just a scout/advertisement/recruiter person??? all fingers crossed......

as for me..........had an incredibly productive weekend - and got all my christmas decorations down, packed and back into storage -- WOO-HOO!! did a HUGE grocery shopping trip yesterday, brought dh along to help so that he could help decide on menu for the week w/ me being "bed rest".....damn grocery store was PACKED!! everyone out in full force after church --- i'm tellin ya!! even saw my boss there!! spent yesterday preparing lots of food for the week so that dh and my boys will not starve (as if.....none of them, well, including me, are none too malnourished!!!) and dh would have done fine doing the dinner thing this week w/out my help - is just something i like to do in preparing.....this happend the last time too -- is like i go into "nesting" mode.....i clean like a freak....re-organize drawers and shelves and closets!!! (maybe i should do this more often!!!) anyway........still made no decisions on HOW MANY TO PUT BACK........will depend HIGHLY on what we have left to work with..... if we have all 5 still --- will most likely do 3 back now and have 2 frosties..... if have 4 --- will prob do 2 now and 2 frosties.....we'll see.....i will report tomorrow if i am able --- computer is in basement at home and dh will be after me like a hawk if i attempt to go wandering!!!! so just keep me in your thoughts & prayers for tomorrow and i will SURELY post on wednesday (when i can sneak down to basement - VERY CAREFULLY - when dh goes to work!!!)

i'll be checking in/out throughout today...........TTFN!!!

[pequele]

morning!!!

Nims- you take it easy lady!!! I will be thinking bout you and beanie! Just think that the wee one had to push some old stuff out making room for him/her to stretch out Can I borrow some of your PMA for myself???

Angie- Any reports on yur little embies yet? Do they call you today? I'm so jealous bout the decorations! I'm gonna try to do that today...or at least most of it...damn pool boy doesn't earn his keep that is for sure.


I knooooow I have to stop peeing! I'm gonna drive myself batty...oh wait I'm already there! I'm driving myself nuts..I'm feeling twinges AGAIN today
I keep telling myself that even if I can O today I am only 72 hrs later (at about noon)...but it is frozen spermies so they don't last as long as fresh, so my time is ticking! Gonna be a lon however many more days til the 18th...or end of my cycle...whenever that may be

I should just go put away Christmas stuff or do something productive so I don't drive myself even more nuts

sad sad steph...with a STANKY doggie

[Welshgirl38]

Hey Girlies

Nims: I agree with ur way of thinking. Baby ok on Friday - today mild growing pains - its getting bigger and is just shifting out ome old crap before he/she settles in for the duration of the next 7 mths Glad to hear u only checked ur knickers once in the last hour, and i also presume that that is good news too - no other discharge lookin good hunnie
An u can tell ur DH that neither of u have done anything wrong at all - u are two loving parents who will dote on this baby like no other. I cant imagine the stress that u and he must be under at the moment, but u really do need to buck up that PMA, no more discharge = baby is fine Im thinking bout u hun xxxx
Oh and as for freedom this week, ur kinda right - only i dont have too much freedom to move about - my arse is killing me (did u miss my operation post lol) so getting about is hard. I got dressed today for the first time since Thursday, feels strange too lol. Hopefully will be able to get out and about by Wednesday, start my new job on Monday - fingers crossed all will go well You rest up now hun OK xxx

ICSI: Oh how exciting, ur babies will be comming home real soon Have u heard back from the clinic yet on how they are all doing? Some clinics over here in the UK will do blast - mine wont tho and where i live (northern Ireland) there are only 2 clinics to choose from, and neither of them do it! There are so many theroies on the blast stage, some clinics like to put them back where nature intended them to be after 2 or 3 days, and others prefer to see if they make it to blast. Alto i dont beleive that if they are slow starters and havent made it to blast by day 5, that there is no hope for them - my view is - an embie is an embie no matter what stage it is at, it should be given all chances available. Anyhow, i had a big yo hoo with my last clinic over that issue, i dont like the fact that they throw away (or discard) embies who dont quite make their grade! I was told they had to be grade 1 or theyu wouldnt be frozen! My argument was - if i had an embie that was grade 2 put back, i would have every visable chance of getting pregnant, so why not (i was paying) give the others a chance and freeze them - took it higher too but to no avail, so i ended up havig 12 eggs, but fertalizing just 2 as i couldnt throw away any embies that might not have made their grade - to me they would have all been perfect. Anyhow - it didnt work, my eggs fertalized, got it on with DH taddies, but wernt strong enough for the full journey, shame that we didnt have nothing to fall back on in the freezer - but hey, shit happens!
(Gawd did i just type all that lol) Sorry, didnt mean to go on so much! Anyway, this time around i feel the only option we have if we really want to give this our best shot (our last shot too) we have to fertalize all eggs, and hope and pray that they make the grade, if not then at least we can say we tried everything! Phewwwww ....... my fingers are hurting after typing all that lol. Anyway hun, hope u can get on (safely) on Wednesday to let us know wots going on. LOL at u doing all that at home - u could swear u were hybonating (spelling - spell it as u say it lol) Anyhow, take care and take it easy ok xxxx

Phew, think i need a rest after all that - my arse is killing me so im gonna put my feet up on the sofa with a film me thinks

Becky Xxxx

[Welshgirl38]

Steph:

Must have posted same time - funny when u think about it, ur sat there across the pond typing away, i assume its about 10.45am, , and im here at 3.45pm thinking about wot to make for DH for his tea - im boiling up some ham, so looks like its gonna be parsley sause with ham, peas and mash - jubbly..... Wot are u having lol

Becky Xxx

[nimble]

ICSI - i bloody well hope that all it is - you have such a good way of putting things across - think they were unwanted gate crashers and they have been having a riot down there too - sure bloody well feels like it!!
I've decided that I'm turning in a narotic woman!

So the midwife has been and she thinks that it is best that i get re-scanned (tomorrow) to check all is ok - she doesn't want to tempt fate by booking me in and then she will be back tomorrow afternoon.

So am going to put my PMA head on and just get on with it til tomorrow!!

Hey, do you want to come over here and go into nesting mode in my house!!

See you've kinda made your decision on the outcome of your embies tomorrow - you'll know what to do when they let you know how many you have.

Hope your DH is having a wonderful birthday

nims x

[pequele]

Steph:

Must have posted same time - funny when u think about it, ur sat there across the pond typing away, i assume its about 10.45am, , and im here at 3.45pm thinking about wot to make for DH for his tea - im boiling up some ham, so looks like its gonna be parsley sause with ham, peas and mash - jubbly..... Wot are u having lol

Becky Xxx

Right now I'm flipping over to the Price Is Right game show, still in my jammies, trying to get the energy to shower and then maybe work on the Christmas decs. Also wanna get a coverletter in order to submit to the one job announcement (it came directly from the hospital Angie..I forgot about that question last time). They unfortunatley don't have an online app like the others I did so I have to do it the old fashioned way haha. I was debating on going to the dumps today....BORING. So no probably won't happen haha. Lunch hasn't even crossed my mind, but I have some English muffins, and some stuff to put on top of em, yogurt, fruit. or I have cheese and turkey for sammiches. Honestly I'm so bummed right now (sorry no pun intended on yur bootie) that I'm not all that hungry Oh sure I'm ready to get up now and my dumb dog Napoleon decides it is time to settle down for a nap! As sooooon as I get up he's gonna spring to life again...ugh!

me

[Hope644]

Good Morning Ladies--

Nims - you and the girls are right. I like your logic - makes perfect sense to me!! Your little baby just needs some growing room! She is cleaning out a little space for herself so she can have plenty of room to GROW!!! (he/she, whichever!) You take it easy now. Glad you have such a stong PMA - you keep it up!! We're here for you and you'll be getting strong PMA vibes from us as well!

Steph - You feed off that pma that Nims has and keep your chin up, girlie! We're sending you lots of PMA vibes as well!! The girls are right, you ARE PUPO!! And, when things settle down and you're all fat & happy (pg, of course!) you can focus more on that new, fantastic job, which can only be a good thing!!

Angie - Who knows about all those philosphies different clinics have. The important thing is that they are doing everything they can for you and it sounds like everything is great! I can't wait to see how many you end up putting back and how many you freeze! Tomorrow is going to be a great day!!!

Becky - Sounds like you're making a good decision to fertilize all eggs this next round. Your time is coming hon!!!

Alright, I couldn't find any good PMA images, so I'm sending you something that makes me smile and I hope it makes you smile too. Keep up that PMA, girls!!! You're all in my thoughts and prayers!!!


Come on, how can you not smile at Snoopy?!?!

Ok, off to work... ugh. 5 straight days? Are you serious?!

Looking forward to POSITIVE progress reports from you girls tonight!!

[nimble]

ooops becky sorry - yes did read your op post - sorry completely forgot - bad girl !! Hope you have soft cushions for your lovely little deirrere.

Hope - love snoopy - did the trick!! I did tell the midwife about my logic - think she though i was loosing the plot! things we do to keep positive.

What steph - do you have a day off today??? Wow, you exciting girl - a visit to the dump - don't go overboard now will you! Personally I would settle for pj's, english muffins with jam and cream in front of the tv!! Come on, i'm sending some PMA across the pond for you girl .

nims xx

[ICSI GIRL]

nims --- so glad you came 'round to MY way of thinking!! the world would be a much better place if i could get EVERYBODY to buy into my crap!! ha, ha, ha, ha!!! seriously ------ you'll have your re-check/scan tomorrow and baby will be doin' a little dance for momma!!!!! oh and can i just say that nothing would please me more than to come nest with you!!! would LOVE a trip to that side of the pond!!

beck --- have i told you lately (that i love you.......) ha, ha, ha--- there i go cracking myself up again!!! you do know that song - right??? i think it's been sang by couple different people......anyway - what i MEANT to say was have i told you how happy it makes me that you're back?? and true to form! i agree w/ your thoughts on how an egg is an egg and an embie is an embie!! GIVE THEM A FIGHTING CHANCE -- they are just lil guys right now and need all the help they can get!!! how is the bum anyway??? thinking you'll be ok at new job next week??? hope so....would be bloody awful to start a new job w/ pains in the bum!!! oh yeah - something else i been meaning to ask you (or ANY of you gals on that side of the pond) when you say "having tea" --- does it LITERALLY mean you're having TEA????? how does that work?? cuz we don't do "tea" (i mean - lots of people drink tea....but we don't have a daily "tea time") --- is that comparable to our DINNER/SUPPER???? or am i way off same as i was about boxing day???????????? is so fun having bff's on other side of the pond ---- really very exciting to me as i'm just learning so much!! (like what a PRAM is!!! ha, ha, ha!!)

steph --- start doing something productive would ya????? (like taking down decorations) --- cuz it will help pass time AND take your mind of those lil swimmers!!! mad i tell ya......just plain mad!!! oh and what do you mean by going to dump???? and if your doggie is really STANKY -- give him a bath!!! that will pass some MORE time!!!!!

hope --- thanks for the positive vibes --- think we ALL are needing them today that's for sure!!!

i've yet to hear back from doc's office..........can i just say WTF???!!! although, in their defense --- my nurse/clinic is physically at different location than lab/operating clinic (about an hour apart actually) --- so my nurse is having to rely on calling up there and getting somebody to return HER call..........is what i'm HOPING.......am going on the no news is good news theory but am about going nuts wondering how the lil buggers are doing!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'll let ya'll know soon as i hear.......

[nimble]

yeah and we are going nuts too waiting to hear - so could you tell them to pull their fingers out and phone you!!

Now - tea time - traditionally it came from the english aristocracy when tea was served between 3pm - 5pm with cakes and finger sandwiches - i think the term is still there from that but don't think we all sit around drinking cups of tea - some will call it dinner / supper. Funny enough, when I was growing up, we called it tea time (still do like Becks) and we always had a cup of tea with our dinner - my parents still do that - however at w/ends it becomes dinner and the tea is replaced with wine! Really odd when you sit down and think about it - what a strange nation we are!!


Isn't it biazzare that we speak the same language but have different terminology although some would dispute that too!!

Sigh - not much work done today - can't think why - think I've been here more than on my work email site!!

xx

[ICSI GIRL]

Sigh - not much work done today - can't think why - think I've been here more than on my work email site!!

yeah me too!!! and i'm AT work -- not "working from home"!!!! ha, ha, ha!!! silly i guess........that i'm even here cuz my mind is a MILLION MILES AWAY!!!!!!

[Welshgirl38]

Hello (again) ladies

Tea = grub = food lol, altho DH would say 'dinner' but i'm common like Nims and say Tea lol. I would only have a cup of tea with food if its a fry (bacon/sausages and the like) i normally have a drink with my tea (grub) usualy juice, it helps to fill u up (apparantly!!) Supper for us would be a cuppa with a biscuit/toast/snack before bedtime - DH has supper, i try not to as i usualy end up raiding the fridge
So for my tea (and DH;s dinner) this evening, i will be having, boiled ham on the bone, with mashed potatoes, peas, carrots and parsley sauce! As u may be aware that tea time actually has passed here - but DH is always home this late, so we tend to have our tea (his dinner) for early supper hahahaha - hope that hasnt confused u too much LOL

An yes, i have heard that song 'have i told you lately that i love you' and it was as you say ICSI - sung by many a folk, but my fav is Mr 'Van the Man' Morrison...

Andddddd - I think Steph may mean by going to the dump - the tips? You know, where u dump all ur rubbish - either that or she needs a poo lol

Becky Xxx

[ICSI GIRL]

yeah well --- i'm on same side of pond as steph (who by the way, must have taken all of our advice in doing something to keep her busy!!! cuz she's not been around much since earlier) -- anyway, same side of pond and we don't go to the dump --- we have a garbage company that stops right in front of our house once a week to pick up all our trash!!! we just put our GIANT ROLLING garbage can (that we keep in the garage thru the week) out by the road the night before and just like magic -- it is all gone by the time we come home from work next day!!! so i was just surprised if she meant actually going to the dump!!

speaking of dump (as in the poo kind ) sorry ladies if tmi.....but who else is a girl in this situation to ask?????? damn nurse aint callin me back!!! anyway..........back to my poo talk (and i'm not talkin about as in "winnie the.......") did/does anybody else every get constipated while on progesterone injections?? i'm pretty much at that point and i can't figure out if these nasty cramps i've been having are my ovaries freakin out still or if i just need a good dump!!!!!!

yeah and i called my nurse BACK (got her voicemail again)......kinda playing the whole "i didn't know if you rang as i got called into meetings and was away from my desk" (total lie.....i've been out here chatting you guys up all day)........she doesn't know that!! anywhoo, she STILL hasn't called me back damn it!!!!!!!!! ticks me off that i pay them so much money and they can't even give me a fricken update on MY embabies???????? WTF is up with that?????????? if i get a call later in the day (after i've left work), i will try hard to update you guys between now and time i leave in morning --- but will be honest right now in saying that w/ it being dh's birthday and all..........we are going out for dinner (and i intend to have a GIANT MARGARITA!!!!) and then of course, last day for whoopie for a couple'ish weeks ---- i'm not thinkin' i'll have time to get online this eve.........so sorry ---- this is one day that my dh must take priority!!! (all REST of the days of year are reserved for my gals out here!! so i'd say you're definately getting better end of it! )

[ICSI GIRL]

FINALLY GOT A CALL FROM MY NURSE!!!!!!!!!!!!! Haven't quite processed how i'm feeling about yet though.............she said she had just talked to one of the lab techs (caring for my embabies) who said:

"3 of the 5 still appear viable - will know more tomorrow"

so i said "so 2 of them are a definate NO-GO....right" --- basically.......and i've been saying all along "if only 3 left by the time we transfer -- i want all 3 put back!" so i've mentally kinda prepared for this moment......but it still SUCKS to hear 2 of 'em just aren't making their way this is such an emotional coaster!! just when ya think you're TOTALLY prepared to deal with ALL of the what-ifs (especially if you've been thru before)..... i'm ok --- i really am.....cuz i guess i'm a big believer in "natural selection" --- if God wanted them to make their way into this world, then God would have made sure it happend!! (although, must admit i was quite upset with God after i got my last bfn..........) anyway......am just happy to know......atleast i won't be on the table, naked from waste down - legs in stirrups - w/ dh sitting at my side -- not to mention all the nurses and lab assistants hovering about --- whilst doc decides THAT is the best time for the conversation on how many to put back!!! i was quite UN-impressed w/ that the last time around.........which is why i wanted to find out TODAY what we'd be in for tomorrow..........now i know.

[pequele]

ok I'm back...nope didn't go to the dumps (but no worries Beck, I have taken one ) ...I HATE GOING TO THE DUMPS!!! We don't have garbage picked up street side round here unless you pay LOTA money. When my parents lived in CA they paid like $50 every 6 months. Here it is like $50 a month. Nah I'll just take it on my own (that would cut into my chocolate budget!), so I wait til the VERY last minute haha. And as far as bathing the dogs, I don't wanna do that either. The corgi is such a pain to lift into the tub and stay bent over to do it...kinda a deep tub. Then Napoleon, the retard well he's afraid of the bath so it is a lot of work. I just wipe them down and I have this stuff that I use on em that helps keep em clean longer. It is just that today is warm out so the snow is melty and they are a yucky mess...not even that cat will go near em haha.

Angie- I see your update! 3 is a great number! No worries on needing to freeze others cuz this is THE batch!!! In 9 months time you are gonna be momma to triplets!!! So you enjoy your hubby's birthday "tea" tonite and rest up for your big day, you are gonna need it over the next 9 months.
PS I believe constipation can be caused from the hormones...it could also be due to not enough margaritas.

I'm glad to hear when I come visit ya'll over there (Angie in tow) that I won't be subjected to drinking tea at tea time...I'm not really fond of the stuff, sorry I like scones though, will that not get my arse kicked now

I'm TRYING to get to the dang decorations, I loaded the dishwasher, took a shower, got the boxes out of the basement for the Christmas stuff, took a dump (HAHA JUST KIDDING LADIES, I couldn't resist it though), I Food Savered some stuff, had lunch (burritos since Becky will probably ask), and now I think I need some ice cream...oh I also need to call the guy back who called while I was in the basement to set up an interview for one of the jobs I applied for...wooooo.

For now ice cream is calling me. oh and I'm having twinges in my ovary area AGAIN
Steph