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thanks Chris x - what other coping straegies have you learnt then .. please share them with us :)

have you got anything planned for your time off school - apart from the inevitable cycle???
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just one more question Icsi/Angel - what were those super spermie tablets you got rom Zita West called please ????
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ok...Angel, where the heck are you? I told you to tell that boss of yours that we come first!! 8)

You too Angie!!!

Hi Carolyn!!! I am glad that your counseling session ended up being better in the end. I am so sorry if my headaches found you!!! Please do not send them back to me!! I am enjoying not having headaches everyday. You are probably getting them because of how upset you are. Stress and if you are crying a lot. Dont you worry about eating 2 cakes. Right now it is comfort food.

Ohhhh hrobinson!!! You are going on vacay?? Where are you going?
They gave me a pill to take at night to help me sleep and for my headaches. I cannot remember the name. It is for anxiety. You are probably getting the headches the same reason Wishfull is getting them. You both are dealing with a lot of emotions!!

I havent been to a shower in a while either. And I dont plan on going to any in the near future! :(
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Carolyn, as far as tips... I guess it depends on what comes up for you in conversations with the therapist. For me... I am learning a lot about myself. As far as what I can do to prevent from being hurt... like... I realized that I was always calling DH at work with my "problems" and it was always at 3:30 when I got out of school. That happened to be his most stressful time at work, yet I didn't know that. So, inevitably, he would rush me off the phone and I always felt like he didn't "understand" etc. Yet I kept doing it. My therapist helped me to realize that I was setting myself up for failure each time. So I talked it over with DH and sure enough he said that the timing was bad. So I stopped calling him at that time and saved myself from the let down. She told me to replace that "activity" with something else to do at 3:30. It sounds so simple, but it really worked. She also coached me about how to deal with all of my co-workers. Some are pregnant and some just had babies and they always talk about their babies, etc. So I guess what I am trying to say is that your therapist will help you to uncover what things you can do to make your daily living better. My DH came in with me one time and we were able to really "HEAR" each other. It is a valuable tool. The therapist is not going to make "IF" go away, but s/he is going to help you to live your life while you are going through it. Does that make sense? My therapist has been through IF and that was important to me when looking for someone to talk to. She helps me to see more clearly. She validates my feelings and helps me to learn how to deal with difficult situations. Hope this helps.
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Chriss, I know you don't post very often, but you do write the most meaningful and deep thoughts when you do. And we really appreciate that. :D I'm so glad that counselling is working for you and DH. I'm sure it makes a huge difference that she has been through IF herself so understands.

I did not have a very good experience the first time, and have been put off by it. Plus the fact that its in a totally opposite direction to my work, so there is no way I can go without having to take half a day off each time. On the other hand, I do know a trained counsellor for children. Although she doesn't deal specifically with IF, she does have good skills and asks the right type of questions and seems to understand the emotional aspect of it. Only problem is that I feel bad about calling her too often so we have only talked twice so far.

You are also very lucky to have a gem of a sister. :D And I absolutely LOVE your attitude. You are so right, we will all get there!!! My DH keeps on saying that too - he beleives in the power of affirmation.
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Chriss- Wow, your therapist sounds really good. It is nice to know that she has gone down the same path as you in reference to IF. That always helps people understand a little better. so, does she have children now?

Wishful- I am headed to Colorado...just to see family. My sister just recently (well a year ago) bought a new home, so am wanting to go see it. We will spend half our time with her, and then head to my parents for the other half. Just one last hoorah before my dh heads back to work. he starts almost a whole month before me since he coaches.

the cambridge diet hugh? I will have to look into that. I am only wanting to take off about 20 pounds....
Not to sound stupd, but what do oyou mean by meal supplements? Would love a diet where weight comes off quickly.
I have a hard time choosing good "nutritious" food. I worked out this morning, felt really good about it, then dh takes me to mcdonalds for lunch. Not good. Now I regret it and feel like I need to hop bak on that eliptical.
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Carolyn,

How are you hun? Don't beat yourself over comfort eating. Its never easy dealing with a BFN and if eating 2 cakes give you short term pleasure, then go for it :D

Chriss has made some very thoughtful points. Maybe we can all swap some tips and help each other if nothing else.

Sorry to hear about your headaches, but give it some time. My RE says that you should give your body at least 2 months after a failed cycle (third AF after the BFN) to allow your body to recover physically. He rightly pointed out that the emotional state always puts more pressure on your body and extreme stress can cause a bit of hormonal imbalance.

It sometimes just seems like a vicious cycle to me - IF = low state of emotions = stress = poor physical health= failed cycle = worse emotional state............and it starts all over.

Remember that you are a very strong person. You and DH love each other. And you will have your baby one day - definitely :D Go out and do something nice for yourselves. Try to do whatever brings a smile to your face. And remember we are here for you.
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Miracle, sorry sweetie couldn't come on today. Had a conference to go to most of the day then meetings. Probably will be the same tomorrow.

So glad to hear that your headaches have gone. Good on those tablets working. What I said to Carolyn applies to you too. Go out and do something nice/ fun with DH. Is he still working away from home?

I hear you on the difficulty with dealing with pregnant women. Funnily enough, I'm ok around babies - I love playing with them and laughing with them. And babies seem to like me :D Its baby bumps that get to me. And women constantly discussing pregnancies and blocking me out that gets to me. And insensitive people who ask directly when on earth we'll start a family and that I'm not getting any younger. As if I didn't know that :roll:

Anyway, talk to you later. Will check on you tomorrow.
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Hrobinson - did I hear you asking about weight loss? Let me know when you find the secret :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I wish there was a magic pill that burnt all the fat cells so you can never store any fat. How cool would that be?

Carolyn is our resident expert on motivation for weight loss.

I have been trying since the past 3 weeks, and I could have sworn that I lost some weight as my clothes fit better, but got on the scales and there was NO change :?

Vacation huh? You lucky thing. Enjoy the break and try to relax and not think about tmt at all. I know its easier said than done, but you have to try.
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Carolyn- You got me all excited about this Cambridge Diet....well, I jus researched it and it looks like it is really hard to do unless you live in the UK. So, I guess if I want to lose weight I need to move. wonder how I can convince dh of that!!!

angel- You haven't come up with an easy weight loss plan either. Well, one of us needs to, so I will leave it up to you. in the meantime I guess I will keep working out...and may even try to watch what I eat. I did say MAY.

I agree with Angel that chriss writes so well. Chriss you are not only a super smart woman, but man you sure have a way with words. Thanks for your posts:)

Well, can honestly say that I haven't done a single load of laundry. Guess I will do that tomorrow, along with packing, and cleaning, and doing our grocery shopping.
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hi ladies!!!

how are you all?? missing you all terribly as i dont get much time anymore to come on here! :(

anyway, just wanted to say best of luck welshbugger for your next cycle. come on AF, show your face for once!! or else!! :wink:

wishfull - i am so so sorry hun. time is a healer!! lots of hugs and kisses xxx

hrobinson - welcome!! am i right in thinking we cycled before??

hi to everyone else!! ICSI, miracle, angel, chriss and all the others!!

lots of sticky baby dust!!

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Hello .

Hi Shantala - we will let you off not being around so much we know you have the best excuse in the world :D

Where is everyone else ... I need some friends to play with :lol: :lol:

Can't even send Mir -interent police out as even she is hiding!!!
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hi wishfull - glad ive got the pardon!! how you keeping up?

i would stay to play but have to go and get ready as i have to watch my little brother in his shakespeare play later! bless him! lol. hope mir shows her face soon for you!

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I am here CAROLYN!!!!

Don't forget about our time difference!!! :( I just got to work. I came in an hour later. Hee hee!! My birthday, and I wanted another hour of sleep!!! :lol:
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Hi ladies...

Chriss...the girls are right. You could be a inspirational speaker. You really do have a way with words. You rock!!!

Angel, I am sad. I dont like when you have conferences. Miss you. :cry:

Angie, where the heck are you?? You really need to get your computer at home fixed. 8)

hrobinson...ooooohhhh Colorado!!! I soooo want to go there. From what I have seen it is beautiful!!! You are so lucky. Is that where you are orginally from??

Carolyn, how are you? When is your next counseling appointment?

Hi Shantala!!! Yes, you absolutely have the best excuse ever!!! I would love to see some more piccies of your lil one!!
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