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wishfull27
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Good morning ladies!
LOL Mir, I try not to post too many times a day!
Though I read your posts yesterday evening. How are you doing? We didn't hear a lot about YOU today! Yup, the renovations are almost done, and I was surprised to find out I had so much free time yesterday evening! It was great! Allowed me to do some reading... my own stuff and other people's!
Wishful,
Hi there! You're very brave to go to the gym; I HATE IT! That's why I do flamenco lessons instead... my teacher trained at the Grands Ballets Canadiens, so she trains us hard! she likes to make us suffer, lol! Aw. sorry to hear that you hate thunder and lightening! I hope the storm wasn't too bad... I hear you on the DE dilemma... my best friend has to do IUIs with donor sperm. Being a parent is about SO MUCH MORE than genetics... Yes, that baby would grow inside of you, but you're the first person he/she would know, right from the start, same for your husband. And you're the one who would be there for him/her, every step of the way. Genetics can't compare to that...
hrobinson,
Thank you for your kind words, again... *hugs* you know, I think this is a sign... and not the first... that I should go back to writing. It's time now... the renovations are almost done, I have more free time on my hands... when I wrote my first fanfiction novel, it was pure slavery. I thought I would do like George Sand and publish a chapter a week! And my readers, on the net, were a huge pressure because they were waiting after me! I tell you... for around 7 months, all my free time was devoted to that novel. I reread it now and I would change a lot of things; one day I'll do a thorough editing. I did write half of another fanfiction novel that had a lot of potential. And at some point, I had to many things going on, I couldn't write as often... and though all the major plot outlines had been written for the rest of the story, I stopped writing. Your posts gave me back some of the drive to finish it. I'll try to find another editor to assist me and I'll publish on those websites again! Thanks sweetie! Oh, and I write many type of things... at first, it was mostly poetry, when I was a teenager and very young adult. I also wrote "murder and mystery" short novels at that time (before I turned 20). Then, in 2005, I moved on to fantasy novels. That first novel I slaved on was, in part, about vampires (main character). I don't really like Anne Rice's novels; I find her to be a big tease, as if she's constantly beating around the bush and never gets "there". I find her characters a bit too "catholic-oriented", too. So I wanted my vampires to be different, and certainly not the "cool gothic" creatures you see in movies nowadays. Just very, very wise people who have learned a lot during their extended lifetime and had to overcome their more violent nature and co-exist with their preys. Anyway. I tried to move away from fanfiction and write that character's story from the beginning. Abandoned that project too... lack of self-confidence! It's one thing to talk about writing... and doing it!
I hear you on the adoption thing... sometimes, the criteria are insane! When I explored that option, I soon realized that adopting from my own country was the simplest way... However, we decided not to adopt. My husband will turn 38 this year and, given the time it would take for us to adopt (between 6 to 10 years), he feels he would be too old. Plus he is really uncomfortable with the "cons" of the adoption, and I respect his decision. If you decide to start the procedures, I think there's a cool thread on this forum about adoption... and of course I wish you the best of luck!
Nimble,
Sweetie, I'm rooting for you! Hehehe, to think that at some point, all you wanted was for that embie to stick to you... and now you can't wait to push it out! Ah, nature! Thanks for your nice comments; I'll post pics on photobucket and tell you when they're ready. And I definitely share your nesting bug! Nothing pleases me more than to sit down in a nicely decorated, tidied up room at the end of a long day. I think I would manage to be happy as a homemaker, if it wasn't for the loneliness and the impression that I would have done a Ph.D. for nothing... I have quite a Martha Stewart side to me! Oh, I hope this is the day sweetie! And I'll keep you in my thoughts... I wish you a quick and uneventful delivery!! *HUGS*
Have a great day ladies!
Sophie
LOL Mir, I try not to post too many times a day!
Though I read your posts yesterday evening. How are you doing? We didn't hear a lot about YOU today! Yup, the renovations are almost done, and I was surprised to find out I had so much free time yesterday evening! It was great! Allowed me to do some reading... my own stuff and other people's!Wishful,
Hi there! You're very brave to go to the gym; I HATE IT! That's why I do flamenco lessons instead... my teacher trained at the Grands Ballets Canadiens, so she trains us hard! she likes to make us suffer, lol! Aw. sorry to hear that you hate thunder and lightening! I hope the storm wasn't too bad... I hear you on the DE dilemma... my best friend has to do IUIs with donor sperm. Being a parent is about SO MUCH MORE than genetics... Yes, that baby would grow inside of you, but you're the first person he/she would know, right from the start, same for your husband. And you're the one who would be there for him/her, every step of the way. Genetics can't compare to that...
hrobinson,
Thank you for your kind words, again... *hugs* you know, I think this is a sign... and not the first... that I should go back to writing. It's time now... the renovations are almost done, I have more free time on my hands... when I wrote my first fanfiction novel, it was pure slavery. I thought I would do like George Sand and publish a chapter a week! And my readers, on the net, were a huge pressure because they were waiting after me! I tell you... for around 7 months, all my free time was devoted to that novel. I reread it now and I would change a lot of things; one day I'll do a thorough editing. I did write half of another fanfiction novel that had a lot of potential. And at some point, I had to many things going on, I couldn't write as often... and though all the major plot outlines had been written for the rest of the story, I stopped writing. Your posts gave me back some of the drive to finish it. I'll try to find another editor to assist me and I'll publish on those websites again! Thanks sweetie! Oh, and I write many type of things... at first, it was mostly poetry, when I was a teenager and very young adult. I also wrote "murder and mystery" short novels at that time (before I turned 20). Then, in 2005, I moved on to fantasy novels. That first novel I slaved on was, in part, about vampires (main character). I don't really like Anne Rice's novels; I find her to be a big tease, as if she's constantly beating around the bush and never gets "there". I find her characters a bit too "catholic-oriented", too. So I wanted my vampires to be different, and certainly not the "cool gothic" creatures you see in movies nowadays. Just very, very wise people who have learned a lot during their extended lifetime and had to overcome their more violent nature and co-exist with their preys. Anyway. I tried to move away from fanfiction and write that character's story from the beginning. Abandoned that project too... lack of self-confidence! It's one thing to talk about writing... and doing it!
I hear you on the adoption thing... sometimes, the criteria are insane! When I explored that option, I soon realized that adopting from my own country was the simplest way... However, we decided not to adopt. My husband will turn 38 this year and, given the time it would take for us to adopt (between 6 to 10 years), he feels he would be too old. Plus he is really uncomfortable with the "cons" of the adoption, and I respect his decision. If you decide to start the procedures, I think there's a cool thread on this forum about adoption... and of course I wish you the best of luck!
Nimble,
Sweetie, I'm rooting for you! Hehehe, to think that at some point, all you wanted was for that embie to stick to you... and now you can't wait to push it out!
Ah, nature! Thanks for your nice comments; I'll post pics on photobucket and tell you when they're ready. And I definitely share your nesting bug! Nothing pleases me more than to sit down in a nicely decorated, tidied up room at the end of a long day. I think I would manage to be happy as a homemaker, if it wasn't for the loneliness and the impression that I would have done a Ph.D. for nothing... I have quite a Martha Stewart side to me! Oh, I hope this is the day sweetie! And I'll keep you in my thoughts... I wish you a quick and uneventful delivery!! *HUGS*Have a great day ladies!
Sophie
1st and 2nd IVF = BFN 1st FET BFP! m/c at 7 weeks. 2nd FET BFP! 3rd FET BFN
Now let's spend the rest of our lives having fun together!
Now let's spend the rest of our lives having fun together!
Nims- We are all rooting for you. Now you better not make us wait for weeks to find out if your little one came, and what that little one is.
Ya, I know about sunscrean. However, I really didn't think I would burn. And definately not that badly. So, I took dd to the pool yesterday, and i have never put so much sunscreen on in my life. Every hour I was spraying it on. Wonder if I have any left as we are headed back to the pool today.
Chris- I hear you on the whole having more time to post when you are workiing. I hate to say how much time I spend on the intnernet while at work. However, I only do it when my kids are working on their own things, or off to another room. WE will see how much I am able to post this year with a new teaching subject/grade.
PMS- Oh, I hope it doesn't take us that long to adopt over here. I have looked a little into one coompany, and they say that usually you are placed with a child between 6months to a year. I so hope that is true. Once Christmas rolls around and we get more serious I will look at the time frame a littel better before we start.
My parents adopted a little girl from Korea when I was just 5. She turned out to be a "toot" and so I was always against adopting. however, I believe this is where God is leading us.
I would love to get a baby from China or Japan, as my dh is Japanese. My dd definately looks more like him than me, but we don't care.
In our eyes a child is a Gift from God and we would love it no matter what.
Anyhow....
I agree with Nim that we need to see pictures of your house. My mother is in teh process of redoing her home. Though they have been at it for 8 months now and have only finished 1/2 the kitchen, and thte three bathrooms. They have a long ways to go.
Wishfu- Oh how I wish we were having your crummy weather. It is already 98 degrees here. We are in a heat advisory until tonight. It has been over 100 degrees for (I believe) 20 days. The past two days have been 110 UGH!!!! Then when you add on the humidity.....
Gotta run make breakfast, and then a salad for a luncheon today. Will be back on in a little bit.
Ya, I know about sunscrean. However, I really didn't think I would burn. And definately not that badly. So, I took dd to the pool yesterday, and i have never put so much sunscreen on in my life. Every hour I was spraying it on. Wonder if I have any left as we are headed back to the pool today.
Chris- I hear you on the whole having more time to post when you are workiing. I hate to say how much time I spend on the intnernet while at work. However, I only do it when my kids are working on their own things, or off to another room. WE will see how much I am able to post this year with a new teaching subject/grade.
PMS- Oh, I hope it doesn't take us that long to adopt over here. I have looked a little into one coompany, and they say that usually you are placed with a child between 6months to a year. I so hope that is true. Once Christmas rolls around and we get more serious I will look at the time frame a littel better before we start.
My parents adopted a little girl from Korea when I was just 5. She turned out to be a "toot" and so I was always against adopting. however, I believe this is where God is leading us.
I would love to get a baby from China or Japan, as my dh is Japanese. My dd definately looks more like him than me, but we don't care.
In our eyes a child is a Gift from God and we would love it no matter what.
Anyhow....
I agree with Nim that we need to see pictures of your house. My mother is in teh process of redoing her home. Though they have been at it for 8 months now and have only finished 1/2 the kitchen, and thte three bathrooms. They have a long ways to go.
Wishfu- Oh how I wish we were having your crummy weather. It is already 98 degrees here. We are in a heat advisory until tonight. It has been over 100 degrees for (I believe) 20 days. The past two days have been 110 UGH!!!! Then when you add on the humidity.....
Gotta run make breakfast, and then a salad for a luncheon today. Will be back on in a little bit.
yes, I do it before they get to school and during my 'prep' times. Not when kids are around.hrobinson wrote: Chris- I hear you on the whole having more time to post when you are workiing. I hate to say how much time I spend on the intnernet while at work. However, I only do it when my kids are working on their own things, or off to another room. WE will see how much I am able to post this year with a new teaching subject/grade.
BELIEVE!
aaaahhhhh man!!! Carolyn is gone... 
Hi PMA!!! Well, I dont have much to write about. I am boring... My DH works out of town and comes home on Thursday nights. So I go to work, go home, take care of my furbabies and relax!!! Good for you...take some time for "you!!" I can't believe your...like... a DOCTOR!!! Now when I feel like I need help, I will know just who to come too!!! 
How is the weather up there? I am orginally from Buffalo, NY. I wish I could go home for the summers!!!! Oh, about your friend having to do IUI's with DS, that was our orginal plan for our infertility. We found out a couple of months ago, that DH has sperm, just not coming out...some kind of blockage. So we are thrilled we hopefully, be able to use his "boys!!" But, if for some reason we can't we will go the DS route as well!!! It really makes me happy when I hear about people using DS or DE!! (not that they have to, but because at how they will not let gentics get in the way of their family)
Hrobinson...that would be so nice of you could adopt from Japan...how sweet!!! Um...what is a "toot?"
Hi Chirss!!!! Hope you get everything done!!!
Thinking of you Angie,Angel,Becky and NIMS!!!!!
Hi PMA!!! Well, I dont have much to write about. I am boring...
My DH works out of town and comes home on Thursday nights. So I go to work, go home, take care of my furbabies and relax!!! Good for you...take some time for "you!!" I can't believe your...like... a DOCTOR!!! Now when I feel like I need help, I will know just who to come too!!! How is the weather up there? I am orginally from Buffalo, NY. I wish I could go home for the summers!!!! Oh, about your friend having to do IUI's with DS, that was our orginal plan for our infertility. We found out a couple of months ago, that DH has sperm, just not coming out...some kind of blockage. So we are thrilled we hopefully, be able to use his "boys!!" But, if for some reason we can't we will go the DS route as well!!! It really makes me happy when I hear about people using DS or DE!! (not that they have to, but because at how they will not let gentics get in the way of their family)Hrobinson...that would be so nice of you could adopt from Japan...how sweet!!! Um...what is a "toot?"
Hi Chirss!!!! Hope you get everything done!!!
Thinking of you Angie,Angel,Becky and NIMS!!!!!
Guys thank you for your kind thoughts and wishes - but today isn't the day 
nor do I think tomorrow or the day after is either!!! My cervix is so tightly shut that they couldn't even do a membrane sweep - guess my body was making sure nothing bad happens to the baby and hasn't learnt yet that it is ok to loosen up a bit!!
So, they have booked me in to be induced next tuesday - that is if nothing has happened in between so really sorry ladies, but this little is going to keep us all waiting and I'm dying to find out what flavour it is !!
hrobinson - wow you're having some heatwave - i'm probably the only brit that is pleased that it is raining and chilly at the mo!! Sorry Carolyn!!
glad to hear about the sunscreen - good girl!!
Sophie - wow 6-10yrs for adoption in your country - that is so long !!
What is your PhD in?
Carolyn - I'm with the others - DE/DS is just the start - being a mummy is a whole lot more and you have a great outlook on it which is really positive. have fun camping hun - hope the rain eases up for you!
Mir - hows things hun??
Well going to find some things to do to keep me occupied - this waiting is driving me insane!!
nims xx
nor do I think tomorrow or the day after is either!!! My cervix is so tightly shut that they couldn't even do a membrane sweep - guess my body was making sure nothing bad happens to the baby and hasn't learnt yet that it is ok to loosen up a bit!! So, they have booked me in to be induced next tuesday - that is if nothing has happened in between so really sorry ladies, but this little is going to keep us all waiting and I'm dying to find out what flavour it is !!
hrobinson - wow you're having some heatwave - i'm probably the only brit that is pleased that it is raining and chilly at the mo!! Sorry Carolyn!!
glad to hear about the sunscreen - good girl!!
Sophie - wow 6-10yrs for adoption in your country - that is so long !!
What is your PhD in?
Carolyn - I'm with the others - DE/DS is just the start - being a mummy is a whole lot more and you have a great outlook on it which is really positive. have fun camping hun - hope the rain eases up for you!
Mir - hows things hun??
Well going to find some things to do to keep me occupied - this waiting is driving me insane!!
nims xx
1st IVF - Sep 06 - +ve lost at 7wks
2nd IVF/ICSI - Apr 07 BFN
BFP Naturally - m/c 12wks
3rd IVF/ICSI - Nov 07 - BFP!!
[img]http://by.lilypie.com/junTp1/.png[/img]
2nd IVF/ICSI - Apr 07 BFN
BFP Naturally - m/c 12wks
3rd IVF/ICSI - Nov 07 - BFP!!
[img]http://by.lilypie.com/junTp1/.png[/img]
Oh Man NIMS!!!!
I was really expecting to hear you were in the hosptial having your baby... I am so sorry. I can only imagine how uncomfortable and frustrated you are.
Next Tuesday they will induce??? Come on...I dont know why they wait that long. My friend had to wait like that too, and come to find out, she couldnt even have the baby vaginaly...she had to have a c section with all her babies. Well I hope baby will come sooner rather then later. Just think, you can always pick on them when they are older...I wonder if this means they will always be late??? 
I am doing good. Hanging in there. Watching everyone around me get pregnant. It is so hard. I dont think they understand what it is like. When they tell me they are pg, it feels like a stab to my heart. I mean of course I am happy and thrilled for them but it kills me. I know you know what i mean. Anyway...hang in there love!!
I was really expecting to hear you were in the hosptial having your baby... I am so sorry. I can only imagine how uncomfortable and frustrated you are.
Next Tuesday they will induce??? Come on...I dont know why they wait that long. My friend had to wait like that too, and come to find out, she couldnt even have the baby vaginaly...she had to have a c section with all her babies. Well I hope baby will come sooner rather then later. Just think, you can always pick on them when they are older...I wonder if this means they will always be late???
I am doing good. Hanging in there. Watching everyone around me get pregnant. It is so hard. I dont think they understand what it is like. When they tell me they are pg, it feels like a stab to my heart. I mean of course I am happy and thrilled for them but it kills me. I know you know what i mean. Anyway...hang in there love!!
oh Mir, I do know how you feel and I wish there was some big big magic wand that I could wave and all you lovely ladies were in the same position as me (although hoping that your babies arrive on time!!) - some people really do not realise how blessed they are being able to get pg just like that.
You are a strong lady, keep up the PMA and one day, your dream will come true.
nims xx
You are a strong lady, keep up the PMA and one day, your dream will come true.
nims xx
1st IVF - Sep 06 - +ve lost at 7wks
2nd IVF/ICSI - Apr 07 BFN
BFP Naturally - m/c 12wks
3rd IVF/ICSI - Nov 07 - BFP!!
[img]http://by.lilypie.com/junTp1/.png[/img]
2nd IVF/ICSI - Apr 07 BFN
BFP Naturally - m/c 12wks
3rd IVF/ICSI - Nov 07 - BFP!!
[img]http://by.lilypie.com/junTp1/.png[/img]
Oh Miracle, I feel for you right now. I know it is hard for me to say anything...I only tried for 4 years and then got pregnant on my first treatment. However, I know what it is like watching everyone else around you get pregnant and have kids and you are still waiting. The thing that always got me was when friends would tell me they understood what I went through, since it took them TWO months to get pregnant. I just wanted to slap them.
I didn't realize how lucky I was for IVF to take the first time. however, the past two times when I have gotten my BFN, it has been so hard. I just question everything....God, myself, and my dr's.
Miracle, you just have to keep faith that someday you too will be a mother. And a darn good one at that.
Nims- I am completley shocked that you are still playing the waiting game. My husband put my sister into labor while watching the Green Mile. He is such a nervous person, and his legs shook through the whole movie...well, she was sitting right next to him, and about an hour after the movie was over she went into labor. She was not due for another 4 weeks or so.
So, if you would like to borrow my dh, just give me a shout.
PMA- I was so shocked to read how long it took for the adoption process over in your neck of the woods. WOW!!! I do think that at times it can take that long, but we will hope and pray that a lovely lady will pick us quickly so my dd can have a sibling.
I hope everyone is having a great day. I am off to wor tomorrow. Gotta unpack 48 boxes in my new room. I hope I have enough places for everything.
I didn't realize how lucky I was for IVF to take the first time. however, the past two times when I have gotten my BFN, it has been so hard. I just question everything....God, myself, and my dr's.
Miracle, you just have to keep faith that someday you too will be a mother. And a darn good one at that.
Nims- I am completley shocked that you are still playing the waiting game. My husband put my sister into labor while watching the Green Mile. He is such a nervous person, and his legs shook through the whole movie...well, she was sitting right next to him, and about an hour after the movie was over she went into labor. She was not due for another 4 weeks or so.
So, if you would like to borrow my dh, just give me a shout.
PMA- I was so shocked to read how long it took for the adoption process over in your neck of the woods. WOW!!! I do think that at times it can take that long, but we will hope and pray that a lovely lady will pick us quickly so my dd can have a sibling.
I hope everyone is having a great day. I am off to wor tomorrow. Gotta unpack 48 boxes in my new room. I hope I have enough places for everything.
Damn it... I just wrote a HUGE post and POOF it vanished. I HATE HATE HATE when that happens...
Ok...I will try again..
Carolyn...where are you?? You usually beat me posting in the morning...just like Angel used to...
Oh NIMS...you are so sweet!!!! Thank you so much for your kind words. You are right, there are a lot of women out there that take getting preggo and their kids for granted...I think I know all of them... How you doint lady?? Hangin' in there?? Any movement going? Contractions yet???
Hrobinson! Hi there! You are such sweetheart. Thank you for your kind words as well. But...just because you your tmt worked the frist time, that doesnt mean your heartache is any less...You hurt just as much as everyone else. And like I told Nims...yes there are a lot of people out there that feel that because they have tried 2 months or even 6 months that they "understand" how infertility feels...I really have to hold back my laughter...I am telling you, my other friends (the ones I see) the love love love to give me advice. Oh, relax...God will give you your baby when he feels you are ready...maybe you arent meant to be a mother...blah blah blah...I know one day, I am going to go postal on them!!! Dont get me wrong, I love my friends, but they can be PLUM DUMB and insensitive. Oh, and even better, they like to offer their dh's sperm. Isnt that lovely?? A couple of my "friends" even got mad at me for not going to their shower. Can you believe that?? I even sent a give and a card and tried to explain to them why I just couldnt go. Somedays are better then others, but at the time I just couldnt bring myself to go. Long story short, they called me selfish and just because I cant have a baby that I shouldnt punish everyone else!! Nice friend huh?? Anyway...I hope the adoption works out for your family!!! That would be so awesome. How old is your little girl? I want to say she is like 3 or 4???
Crap you have to work today...bummer. I hope you get a lot accomplished today!!!
Chriss, still cleaning away?? Such a busy bee!!!
Angel,Angie,Becky,Pieces,Glosbird...where are you ladies... thinking of you all....
Ok...I will try again..
Carolyn...where are you?? You usually beat me posting in the morning...just like Angel used to...
Oh NIMS...you are so sweet!!!! Thank you so much for your kind words. You are right, there are a lot of women out there that take getting preggo and their kids for granted...I think I know all of them...
How you doint lady?? Hangin' in there?? Any movement going? Contractions yet???Hrobinson! Hi there! You are such sweetheart. Thank you for your kind words as well. But...just because you your tmt worked the frist time, that doesnt mean your heartache is any less...You hurt just as much as everyone else. And like I told Nims...yes there are a lot of people out there that feel that because they have tried 2 months or even 6 months that they "understand" how infertility feels...I really have to hold back my laughter...I am telling you, my other friends (the ones I see) the love love love to give me advice. Oh, relax...God will give you your baby when he feels you are ready...maybe you arent meant to be a mother...blah blah blah...I know one day, I am going to go postal on them!!!
Dont get me wrong, I love my friends, but they can be PLUM DUMB and insensitive. Oh, and even better, they like to offer their dh's sperm. Isnt that lovely?? A couple of my "friends" even got mad at me for not going to their shower. Can you believe that?? I even sent a give and a card and tried to explain to them why I just couldnt go. Somedays are better then others, but at the time I just couldnt bring myself to go. Long story short, they called me selfish and just because I cant have a baby that I shouldnt punish everyone else!! Nice friend huh?? Anyway...I hope the adoption works out for your family!!! That would be so awesome. How old is your little girl? I want to say she is like 3 or 4???Crap you have to work today...bummer. I hope you get a lot accomplished today!!!
Chriss, still cleaning away?? Such a busy bee!!!
Angel,Angie,Becky,Pieces,Glosbird...where are you ladies... thinking of you all....
yeah mir heard it all too - "just relax, give your body time, your too stressed about it all, blah blah blah blah, have you tired this and that etc" - you get to a point where you just want to say shut the F up - you have 2 kids and have no idea what it is like and then when you do finally achieve that BFP, it gets taken away from you............... you're not selfish at all and your friends need to understand how it feels to go through this process and if your not able to face showers then so be it - you have to look after no. 1.
I found that I spent more time with no-kid friends than those with kids in the end as you didnt spend your whole evening discussing your inability to get pg!
anyway rant over............
no news from me - been baking cupcakes this morning - keeping myself occupied - my friends 40th at the end of the month and wanted to do a cake but something different so planning on a cupcake cake mountain with the cupcakes having different photos of her when she was little to truely embrass her!! However think I've eaten more of the cake mixture than cooked it!! yum, yum.......
I found that I spent more time with no-kid friends than those with kids in the end as you didnt spend your whole evening discussing your inability to get pg!
anyway rant over............
no news from me - been baking cupcakes this morning - keeping myself occupied - my friends 40th at the end of the month and wanted to do a cake but something different so planning on a cupcake cake mountain with the cupcakes having different photos of her when she was little to truely embrass her!! However think I've eaten more of the cake mixture than cooked it!! yum, yum.......
1st IVF - Sep 06 - +ve lost at 7wks
2nd IVF/ICSI - Apr 07 BFN
BFP Naturally - m/c 12wks
3rd IVF/ICSI - Nov 07 - BFP!!
[img]http://by.lilypie.com/junTp1/.png[/img]
2nd IVF/ICSI - Apr 07 BFN
BFP Naturally - m/c 12wks
3rd IVF/ICSI - Nov 07 - BFP!!
[img]http://by.lilypie.com/junTp1/.png[/img]
hrobinson - uuummmm what was your DH doing to your sister??!!!! Whats the green mile film about - perhaps I should rent that out! Got another 3 movies to watch - ps l love you, 27 dresses and The Golden Compass - all chick flicks which my hubby wouldn't watch. Think someone on here watch 'ps I love you' recently - hope its good.
xx
xx
1st IVF - Sep 06 - +ve lost at 7wks
2nd IVF/ICSI - Apr 07 BFN
BFP Naturally - m/c 12wks
3rd IVF/ICSI - Nov 07 - BFP!!
[img]http://by.lilypie.com/junTp1/.png[/img]
2nd IVF/ICSI - Apr 07 BFN
BFP Naturally - m/c 12wks
3rd IVF/ICSI - Nov 07 - BFP!!
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Hi nims!!!! You made me laugh when you said you were baking cupcakes. I just envisioned you, big belly preggo stirring the batter, then eating some, then putting some of the batter into the cupcake pan!!!! That is so sweet what you are doing for your friend!!!! I love the idea with the pictures!!!! Very orginal!!!
I didnt think I was being selfish either. Needless to say, we dont talk much anymore. I try to hang out with friends who dont have children either. It is so hard though. Seems like everyone has kids. I tell my DH when we hang out with friends with children, that I dont fit in. You know, the guys do their thing and the ladies are usually in the kitchen or whatever and all they talk about are the kids!!! It is so hard. I wish I could go home and have a chick flick marathon!! Sounds so lovely!!!
The Green Mile is supposed to be a really good movie. I had bought it to watch, and within that week, someone broke into my home and stole all my movies and stuff!! I need to go rent it or buy it again. You have 27 dresses...Awww...I want to see that. Maybe I will go rent a bunch of girl movies this weekend.
That is so sweet what you are doing for your friend!!!! I love the idea with the pictures!!!! Very orginal!!! I didnt think I was being selfish either. Needless to say, we dont talk much anymore. I try to hang out with friends who dont have children either. It is so hard though. Seems like everyone has kids. I tell my DH when we hang out with friends with children, that I dont fit in. You know, the guys do their thing and the ladies are usually in the kitchen or whatever and all they talk about are the kids!!! It is so hard. I wish I could go home and have a chick flick marathon!! Sounds so lovely!!!
The Green Mile is supposed to be a really good movie. I had bought it to watch, and within that week, someone broke into my home and stole all my movies and stuff!! I need to go rent it or buy it again. You have 27 dresses...Awww...I want to see that. Maybe I will go rent a bunch of girl movies this weekend.
Good morning lovely ladies!
How are you all doing? Let me catch up first:
hrobinson,
LOL My nick is PMA as in Positive Mentale Attitude... not PMS!!! That was soo funny! I, too, don't know what a "toot" is... Whatever happens, I'm with you on this, you've got to follow your inner voice. It's the best advice you can take. Not always easy to differentiate it from fear-based thoughts or wishful thinking, but I'm working hard on this at the moment. I wish you another little bundle of joy very soon hunny. *hug*
chriss
Have fun with your guests this week!
Mir,
Awwwww you're everything but boring! How can such an enthusiastic and dynamic person such as yourself be boring! Yeah, I'm a doc, big deal... The only reason I use the title is to shut some mouths around here who don't respect my profession. Usually psychiatrists. Quebec is the only place in the whole North America where psychologists are not allowed to officially diagnose mentale disorders. And why? Because psychiatrists and other doctors were so much against it that the law was never debated. It's ridiculous, because we have the same training compared to other shrinks in North America (in fact, I did my Ph.D. in Ottawa, so in Ontario). So in my reports, I still have to write "diagnostic OPINION". Silly really, but they can't prevent me from using my title. One is legally allowed to be called "doctor" in the workplace if a Ph.D. is required to have one's license... and since 2003, it's the case. So, in your face! tee hee hee... silly hospital wars...
And about your medical issues, well, I sure wish you to give it a try very soon with DH's boys! I'm sure it will be very different... I really send a lot of baby dust your way!
nimble,
SO SORRY that today isn't the day! Whew, next week is so far away!!!:(:( At least you're stuffing your face with cupcake batter... hehehe, good move! I find the cupcake mountain with the photos absolutely amazing! What a great idea, and what a generous gift!!! I, too, considered a fake tierced cake made of cupcakes for a big party we're planning for Sept. 13th (I'll probably do a real one with apple-cake and buttermilk icing instead... and marzipan fall fruits and vegetables for decoration). Oh and to answer your question, I'm a psychologist. How is DH coping with the delay?
And about the "insensitive people" issue... I sail between two attitudes. I, too, was very affected by people becoming pregnant around me, or people visiting with their kids. I felt envy, anger, sadness, resentment, thought about how everything was so unfair and NOBODY in the WORLD could really understand what it was like for me, especially mothers. I, too, felt uneasy in shower parties, looking at the happy people and all the cute clothes and toys, wishing I was at the mommy's place. Over the years, however, I've noticed a shift in my attitude towards all this. It required a lot of work, but I think I'm getting past that, little by little, because I'm working on it.
Someone very wise once told me, "It's not the manner in which hard times show up in your life that matter, but your reaction to them." We have to face infertility. Other people have to face other difficulties. I don't think our pain can be compared to theirs and, in that respect, I don't think we can say their life is easier than ours no more than they could say we have it easy. Some people seem to have it all, and in addition, they don't seem very compassionate to other people, such as us. But maybe that's precisely the wall they'll hit when, inevitably, they have to face painful events one day or the other. Maybe their lack of life experience will make them very helpless and vulnerable when they face their first struggle.
It's human to think that we're the only ones struggling with problems, and in that regard, our situation seems most unfair. But when you lift a couple of veils and take a hard look around, you soon realize that all your friends struggle with something. Lack of money, marital issues, problems at work, interpersonal tensions, mental health issues, other health issues, violence, and so on. When I take a hard look around, I can't name one of our friends or relatives who truly has it easy. Their problems may be different, they may seem less serious than ours, but I can't possibly evaluate their pain and compare it to ours. Because it's all a matter of perspective, it's impossible to compare.
One thing that I try to teach my patients, and it's not easy, is that pain is part of life. It's an inherent part of the game, if you will. Nobody will escape it forever. Some people readily accept that fact, but somehow think it should not apply to them... they think they can outsmart it, avoid it, and when it hits them, inevitably, they struggle with acceptance for years sometimes before they can finally face the facts. Once people really accept that, however, that acceptance helps their adaptation tremendously.
In the same vein, one can't avoid pregnant women or babies forever. I respect people who listen to their limits and don't expose themselves to painful situations unnecessarily. I do the same; it's not selfish, it's human. Also, I completely approve of people who stop seeing friends who show no compassion for their situation, when it causes them unnecessary conflict and drama. However, the best way to adapt to a situation is not to avoid it. Avoidance usually worsens things over time. I've noticed that the time I spent grudgingly fretting about meeting a pregnant friend was often far worse than the encounter itself. Even if we talked about the baby, I found that I was able to differentiate my situation from hers and rejoice with her. It helped my adaptation.
With time, I've realized that no one can really understand what it is to go through what I'm going through. I'm going through it with my values, my past experiences, my personality. Of course no one can see and feel things the way I do, not completely. With that understanding, I had to let go of my expectations towards people. That they would send an email or call me before a big test, that they would know how to react during a given part of the treatment, that they would never dare speak about their pregnancy when I just had a failed treatment. It used to make me feel abandoned, misunderstood, and made the whole situation seem even more unfair. Sometimes, it's human, I still struggle with acceptance and people's attitudes can still harm me. But I'm working on it, and that's what's most important.
I just wanted to share those thoughts with you guys. My two humble cents, which are just an opinion that you can take or leave. Bottom line is... I wish we could all go out together for a nice meal, discuss all this together, and above all have fun!
Have a good day ladies,
Sophie
How are you all doing? Let me catch up first:
hrobinson,
LOL My nick is PMA as in Positive Mentale Attitude... not PMS!!! That was soo funny!
I, too, don't know what a "toot" is... Whatever happens, I'm with you on this, you've got to follow your inner voice. It's the best advice you can take. Not always easy to differentiate it from fear-based thoughts or wishful thinking, but I'm working hard on this at the moment. I wish you another little bundle of joy very soon hunny. *hug*chriss
Have fun with your guests this week!
Mir,
Awwwww you're everything but boring! How can such an enthusiastic and dynamic person such as yourself be boring!
Yeah, I'm a doc, big deal... The only reason I use the title is to shut some mouths around here who don't respect my profession. Usually psychiatrists. Quebec is the only place in the whole North America where psychologists are not allowed to officially diagnose mentale disorders. And why? Because psychiatrists and other doctors were so much against it that the law was never debated. It's ridiculous, because we have the same training compared to other shrinks in North America (in fact, I did my Ph.D. in Ottawa, so in Ontario). So in my reports, I still have to write "diagnostic OPINION". Silly really, but they can't prevent me from using my title. One is legally allowed to be called "doctor" in the workplace if a Ph.D. is required to have one's license... and since 2003, it's the case. So, in your face! tee hee hee... silly hospital wars... And about your medical issues, well, I sure wish you to give it a try very soon with DH's boys!
I'm sure it will be very different... I really send a lot of baby dust your way! nimble,
SO SORRY that today isn't the day! Whew, next week is so far away!!!
:(:( At least you're stuffing your face with cupcake batter... hehehe, good move! I find the cupcake mountain with the photos absolutely amazing! What a great idea, and what a generous gift!!! I, too, considered a fake tierced cake made of cupcakes for a big party we're planning for Sept. 13th (I'll probably do a real one with apple-cake and buttermilk icing instead... and marzipan fall fruits and vegetables for decoration). Oh and to answer your question, I'm a psychologist. How is DH coping with the delay?And about the "insensitive people" issue... I sail between two attitudes. I, too, was very affected by people becoming pregnant around me, or people visiting with their kids. I felt envy, anger, sadness, resentment, thought about how everything was so unfair and NOBODY in the WORLD could really understand what it was like for me, especially mothers. I, too, felt uneasy in shower parties, looking at the happy people and all the cute clothes and toys, wishing I was at the mommy's place. Over the years, however, I've noticed a shift in my attitude towards all this. It required a lot of work, but I think I'm getting past that, little by little, because I'm working on it.
Someone very wise once told me, "It's not the manner in which hard times show up in your life that matter, but your reaction to them." We have to face infertility. Other people have to face other difficulties. I don't think our pain can be compared to theirs and, in that respect, I don't think we can say their life is easier than ours no more than they could say we have it easy. Some people seem to have it all, and in addition, they don't seem very compassionate to other people, such as us. But maybe that's precisely the wall they'll hit when, inevitably, they have to face painful events one day or the other. Maybe their lack of life experience will make them very helpless and vulnerable when they face their first struggle.
It's human to think that we're the only ones struggling with problems, and in that regard, our situation seems most unfair. But when you lift a couple of veils and take a hard look around, you soon realize that all your friends struggle with something. Lack of money, marital issues, problems at work, interpersonal tensions, mental health issues, other health issues, violence, and so on. When I take a hard look around, I can't name one of our friends or relatives who truly has it easy. Their problems may be different, they may seem less serious than ours, but I can't possibly evaluate their pain and compare it to ours. Because it's all a matter of perspective, it's impossible to compare.
One thing that I try to teach my patients, and it's not easy, is that pain is part of life. It's an inherent part of the game, if you will. Nobody will escape it forever. Some people readily accept that fact, but somehow think it should not apply to them... they think they can outsmart it, avoid it, and when it hits them, inevitably, they struggle with acceptance for years sometimes before they can finally face the facts. Once people really accept that, however, that acceptance helps their adaptation tremendously.
In the same vein, one can't avoid pregnant women or babies forever. I respect people who listen to their limits and don't expose themselves to painful situations unnecessarily. I do the same; it's not selfish, it's human. Also, I completely approve of people who stop seeing friends who show no compassion for their situation, when it causes them unnecessary conflict and drama. However, the best way to adapt to a situation is not to avoid it. Avoidance usually worsens things over time. I've noticed that the time I spent grudgingly fretting about meeting a pregnant friend was often far worse than the encounter itself. Even if we talked about the baby, I found that I was able to differentiate my situation from hers and rejoice with her. It helped my adaptation.
With time, I've realized that no one can really understand what it is to go through what I'm going through. I'm going through it with my values, my past experiences, my personality. Of course no one can see and feel things the way I do, not completely. With that understanding, I had to let go of my expectations towards people. That they would send an email or call me before a big test, that they would know how to react during a given part of the treatment, that they would never dare speak about their pregnancy when I just had a failed treatment. It used to make me feel abandoned, misunderstood, and made the whole situation seem even more unfair. Sometimes, it's human, I still struggle with acceptance and people's attitudes can still harm me. But I'm working on it, and that's what's most important.
I just wanted to share those thoughts with you guys. My two humble cents, which are just an opinion that you can take or leave. Bottom line is...
I wish we could all go out together for a nice meal, discuss all this together, and above all have fun!Have a good day ladies,
Sophie
1st and 2nd IVF = BFN 1st FET BFP! m/c at 7 weeks. 2nd FET BFP! 3rd FET BFN
Now let's spend the rest of our lives having fun together!
Now let's spend the rest of our lives having fun together!