DONOR EGG Tmt Thread... " Egg-heads"

[Jen1d]

Hi Anna

Got your message thanks, have sent one back to you.

Poor Matthew will be needing a nanny soon, he is getting abandoned because of me
Just as well i know a really good one-------i trained as a nursery nurse years ago

Jen x

[jen babes]

Eggheads hello...........

Rebecca- wonderful news hun!!!! So glad your sis did so well and with 12 eggies fertilising woooooo-hooooooooo...much love for your Et on saturday x x

anna- thank you so much for posting all the valuable info and sharing it with us...sounds like they hardly use any stimms at all for donors to get them eggies. I too was hoping for frosties( never had any ...ever ) But looking positively we do not know until ET day if we will get any, AND would much rather have a BFP than frosties any day x x x ( am i greedy wanting both?????) Thanks again hun x x P.s. who was your doc over there @ IM?

Jen1d- so glad your scan went well. All looks good for ET being next week ( IM must have got the wks thing wrong). As for pessaries for BFP, ask your GP. Anna's GP was good to prescribe hers so i aaked my new GP. And she was good enough to say that she will prescribe them for the 12wks needed. if they won't do that you could ask for a private prescription frm your GP or last clinicn and pay that way. good luck x x x Did you get given an IM dvd when there and have you watched it yet? also who is your DOCagain?

Gill- is AF on her way yet hun???? If she's here do you then slap on a patch r have to wait until end of AF???Totally understand about asking IM. i am too just going to (try )and sit back and roll the roller coater and see where the ride takes me!!!! Getting to scan stage is so sson for you ( about 10 days by doc Monicas reconning from starting to use patches to et)...oh er...time will fly in for you. x x Have you watched your dvd of Im yet????

Baby blue- hey hun thanks for doing so well at updating the list with all your meds...approx birth date 11th July eh!!! A little cancerian in asttrogical terms if you are into all that. The cancerr sign is home of the housee and homebuddy!!! The 11th that was my last DP birthday too!!! So defo a lucky number x x I should start BC pills in approx 10 days time so we are so close in times for ET x x ohhh exciting x x

carolyn- Hun good on you for getting your head around all your questions/ answers needed. You sound more like your usual self. Is it helping you sort out emotions x x If so, glad that the book is helping so much. It does sound interesting...what one was that called?
as for telling the child about the anon of donor ...in my mind all we can say is at that time of conception ( year 2007) that knowledge wasn't privilidge to be given to us as it was illegal to do so. Hopefully our children will totally understand. Does that make sense??? or does that sound to harsh to you????
Did you get info about payment from my last post? ( here or awaiting i am lost)...anyway 5 wks Hun to go.... Hope we can go at same time.... You for 1st appointment & me for ET !!!! Wow wouldn't that be fun to catch up as real people not cyberly... in the sun... then i can tell the others if you are posh or not!!!! haha!!!

Poochie - how are ya doing hun???? Any news on HH and IVI contact?
Is IVI the clinic Cla was talking about????


I am back at work today and totally knackered tonight but so glad to be out of the 10days of illness rut...it was really getting me down. DH and i were having a deep discussion about all the tmt last night. We watched a dvd given to us by IM about all the differant techniques they may do to get viable embies. They talk about treating all the embies (each one) as a mini patient and will do what they can to give it the best life. Amazing stuff defragmatising is to watch. They also show THE DR Oliviers ( a george clooney look alike) giving a ET. Anyway it was very special to have thata time with DH and talk through loads of stuff. Feel so much better about it all today...

Much love to ya all

xxxxx
jen B
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[jen babes]

EGGHEADS

IN TREATMENT:

Rebecca
Prior tmt: 3 IUI all BFN. DH then diagnosed with variocele (sp?);
Feb 07 ICSI, stims 20 days, 26 eggs ( all poor quality) None fertilised
April 07 IVF/ICSI #2 - same thing - stims for 21 days; 31 eggs - all poor quality; zero fertilised changed clinics
June 07:Menopur/follistim IUI - 9 days on stims... 4 follicles... BFN
Aug 07:currently going through DE IVF with sister -
ER Mon 13th Aug... 12 Eggies fertilised
ET Sat 18th Aug -? transfered..? frosties.


Jen1d (or 1st Lady )
Prior tmt:ttc for 5yrs,
tubes damaged
Bilateral Salpingectomy, 16th Aug 06
4 IVF - BFN
5th June 07- 1st appointment @ IM Barcelona for DE
9th Aug 07- start E2 patches
15th Aug 07 - scan to check womb lining...4.4mm thick
approx 20th Aug 07- ET

Gill
Prior tmt:1st IVF 2001 BFN,
2nd IVF in 2002 BFN
3rd IVF/ED 2003 BFN,
4th IVF/ED 2004 BFN
DE/DS Clinic IM Barcelons Dra Monica Redondo 1st appointmentn June 2007
july doppler and hystocscopy( spelling)
15th Aug stop BC pills
E2 patches 17th aug approx day 1 of AF


AWAITING TREATMENT:

BabyBlue (Kim)-
Prior tmt:6 IUIs - 2006 - all BFNs
Sept. 06 - 1st IVF (ICSI) BFN
Feb. 07 - 2nd IVF (ICSI) BFN
Sept 4 - start BC pills
Sept 16 - start Lupron shots
Oct 19 - EC and start delestrogen
Oct 24 ET
Nov 2 - praying for BFP


Carolyn-
Prior tmt :3 IVF, Tubal Surgery & 1 ICSI. All BFNs.
Told that eggs are fragmented, murky and leaky as well as old
19th September 07: 1st appointment at IM, Barcelona


Jen Babes-
Prior tmt: 2 natural pregs both ectopics, no tubes left,
3 IVF Short cycles 2005-2006 all BFN.
Sept 06 Given a 3% chance with own eggs. Looked at DE abroad in Kiev and Spain.
Chose IM Barcelona, consultant Dr Monica Redondo.
1st App IM 3rd Aug 07: Tests, uterus Biopsy, results due 31st Aug.
On progesterone pills until CD26 ( due to intermitant bleeding)then...
Awaiting AF, due 29th Aug then BC pills.


Poochie ( Vicki)-
Prior tmt: 1st ICSI BFP, DD now 3yrs old. 2006 2nd & 3rd ISCI's BFN, changed clinics 2007 4th ICSI BFP but ectopic lost tube. Told cell division slow so going for DE.
30th Aug 07:1st appointment IVI Madrid


Thanks to AMcK (Anna) ( "oh Wise one") for all her input, support and help with Donor Egg info. Anna had a BFP @ 2nd transfer at IM...Baby Matthew is now 5 months old...


BFP's For all






Please add your own updates by clicking on the QUOTE button at the top of the post, add your info, delete the [quote jen babes] at beginning and end of the post, then press submit...easy peasy!!!!good luck x x

[Jen1d]

Hi Jen

Had first appointment with Dr Cristina Guix although it is always Dr Retonda who emails me, dont know why.

Will try calling my Dr tomorrow to ask for meds, she is lovely so think she will try and work something out for us.

Got all the Euros sorted out today and waiting patiently for IM to email tomorrow Cant wait to find out when EC will be and then ET.
Just keep praying for some frosties

Glad your feeling better and back to work. Not long now

Love Jen x

[gill12]

Joined: 04 Apr 2007
Posts: 69
Location: Wales
Posted: Wed Aug 15, 2007 7:13 pm Post subject:


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Hi All

Rebecca- WOW 12 fertilised!!! thats fantastic so happy for you. Glad your sister recovered well.

Kim- I finished taking the bc pills today, so now Im just waiting for af to arrive so I can start on the patches. You tmt wont be long now, It must be great having all your dates worked out , I havent got a clue!

Carolyn- If we get a bfp we will tell the child from a very early age about the donor stuff, that way they will grow up with it and it will never be a big deal. When we went for our adoption sessions they recommend you tell the child from a very early age that they are adopted I think our situation with double donation is very similar. Its the anonymous bit that Im worried about , that the child will never be able to find out any more information about the donors, but we will cross that bridge if and when we get to it.
Hope you have a great night out with your friend tonight . Please keep us updated with the books they sound very interesting.

Anna- Please,please keep posting your answers and info here, it is so helpful and interesting reading about your tmt, and Im so crap at thinking of things to ask . Hope matthew is well. x

Jen 1- Glad your scan went well and everything looked fine . I will email you later. I took the last pill today so just waiting for af to come so I can put a patch on.
Hope dh has had a lovely day and a Happy Birthday.

Jen B- I worry about the amount of eggs we will get I have set my heart on getting some frosties too, but as they dont seem to stimulate their donors much we will just have to wait and see ( I just hope to god we get at least 3 good ones to put back). Well last pill was taken today so just waiting now for af to show and start patches.
Yes I have watched dvd from start to finish, its amazing what they can do these days!Glad you and dh have had time to talk about tmt and that you are feeling better about it all.

Taken last BC pill so now just waiting for af to arrive, hope she's not too long, but to be honest its all going so quickly now maybe a few days delay wouldnt be so bad. I think Im getting scared about it all now

Take care
lots of love
Gill xxx
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me 37 & dh, 38 ttc 9, yrs one tube removed
1st IVF 2001 BFN, 2nd IVF in 2002 BFN
3rd IVF/ED 2003 BFN, 4th IVF/ED 2004 BFN


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[gill12]

Sorry double posting!

[jen babes]

Ahhhhhhhhhh this site is soooooooo slow tonight it's taken me 25mins to get on to post...

Gill- ah hun it can all get scary at this point so totally understand how you feel. THink with both donors it's all so differant for you cause you haven't clue how each eggie will respond to each sperm...BUT IM know what they are doing and you will feel better when you start the postive E2 patches. I hopw with al; my heat that we all get BFP then we can be BFP eggheads thread on ther side I so want to put 3 back in too. And doc monica said just lets wait and see Much love and great BIG hugs to ya x x x ((((HUGS)))) p.s. Jigging for your AF x x and ticker change to patches x x

Jen1d ta 4 email about acu in big B...Am waiting untl nearer EC to call her and book days there. Am excited to hear about your news from Im tomorrow x x x
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Carolyn-STOP READING!!!!! and talk to us (lol) only joking ...i want to know how the books going tonight x xx and how you are doing hun XXXX

how are everyone else doing poochie? Rebecca ? Kim? Anna are you all having problems posting on this slow site too!!!!


As for next trip to IM...We are still deciding whether to have a few days holiday before ET in Spain or just go for ET and stay until day after. Would like some fun in the sun to relax after ET but worry about leaving dog in kennels as he is a big softie and does like it much! And i couldn't drink any sangria !!!! ( actually hate the stuff anyway)

much love to everyone
xxxx
jen B

[babyblue]

Hey ladies,

Have to share an accomplishment with you. I have been on Weight Watchers (online and attending meetings) for the last 18 weeks. I weighed in last night and I have lost another 2.4 pounds (1.09 Kg) this week. That is a total of 18.4 pounds (8.4 Kg) since I started. I was bound and determined I was going to lose the IVF cycle weight I had picked up from the last two cycles and I am .6 pound (.3 Kg) away. I really want to lose another 15 or 20 pounds (6.8 or 9.1 Kg) in case I get pregnant. Jen1, I know what you mean about the weight. But I didn't want to endanger my health to lose (ie., diet pills, etc.) I tried converting for my metric friends. Hope I did it right.

Carolyn, one book in one night and it wasn't a romance novel!!! Wow, it must be good stuff. Let me know the title and author. Sounds like 2ww reading material.

Rebecca and Jen1 - starting Saturday and Monday, you two will be on your 2ww. Big Plans? You know, fluffy pillow or flat; soaps or home improvement shows; sofa or bed. They do have you off your feet for the 1st week, right? I will be sending plenty of sticky, super-charged baby dust your way.

Gill - do you have a set day for your ET?

JenB - you mentioned to Anna about stimms for ED. My ED is expected to use only 1/2 of the stimms that I had to have. Guess when you get older just takes a lot more to get your motor running.

Jen1 - the nurse at my ER Dr. told me that the reason they didn't order any meds beyond the 2ww is because the majority (most) of the women after they have a positive pregnancy test, their insurance will cover 100% of their meds at that point. Not sure if this is the case in Scotland.

SBDD - Sticky Baby Dust Dance to all of you!!!!

[jen babes]

Kim-

Am loving the dancing bum wiggiling monkies..but most f all you are FAB at loosing all that weight..wonderful hun tryuly fab!!!!! Only 6lbs to pre tmt weight wonerful x x x( i need to lose 12lbs and tone 90% more to fit that catagory) well done

love jen
B xxx

[rebeccaj]

Just checking in and wanted to say hello!

Had the best night's sleep of my life last night - I think all the anxiety of the last few weeks/months had been on my shoulders and our good news helped me to relax for the first time in ages - didn't even have any wine!

Kim, congrats on the weight loss - that's amazing, well done!! I can't imagine trying to go through that at the same time as everything else.

My clinic recommends 36 hours in bed only getting up for the bathroom - no showers!! I'm then back at work on Monday but have promised myself I am going to try and take it easy.

Jen, I would take the holiday after the ET - it's a perfect excuse to do nothing but look after yourself! I'm lucky that I didn't need to travel for the whole thing - I can imagine how hard it is coordinating everything. Having said that my sister did have to travel 8000 miles to do her bit, bless her! Sending you all the luck in teh world for next week.

Gill, sending you the AF dance; amazing that for years we dread her arrival then we can't wait for it to come!

On the whole telling the child topic - we will also tell our child (praying that we get that far) of their DNA routes. I have worried myself stupid about whether they will then look at their Aunty in a different light but I also think if it's done in the right way and at an early age then it's not such a big deal. I read this email on another forum about how a women told her child about his start in life - she told him how much his mummy wanted a child and spend many years crying when she thought she couldn't have one. She told him that the reason she couldn't have one was because all her eggs were broken and like a cake, you couldn't make it properly if you did have the right ingredients. Then one day a lovely angel gave her some of her eggs and she then had all the ingredients to make her baby. I thought it was a lovely story and I wrote it down as it will be an easy way of telling a child and making it understandable. My sister told me that all kids want to know that they came from mummy's tummy and that usually is enough!

All is going ok on my side, my progesterone shots are an absolute killer but bearable in teh whole scheme of things. My nurse drew two circles in black marker pen on my hips so my DH would get teh shot in teh right place. I was allergic to teh delestrogen and so on top of the big black circles I have a big red rash. This together with my bruised tummy from the Lupron shots and the Patches on my stomach make me look super sexy!!

Must run as I'm supposed to be in a meeting.

Sending lots of love to all

Rebecca

[jen babes]

rebecca
sorry to hear about the painful prog shots...don't like the sound of them at all!!! Hope it gets easier soon for you. have you tried hot and cold packs???? Hope you weren't too late for your meeting x x About resting afterwards at my ivfs i rested for 3 days in bed both times and was going nuts about thinking all the time. This time we will be in a differant country so only a day in bed and resting before some exploting and flight home. Will rest as much as possible when we get back. i Hope to be able to shift some cllients around and therefor not loose too many holidays x x

AS for me i can't sleep : Gill what have you started lol at least it's only 1am and not 3 am so i can't talk to you. x x x (Actually think i am overtired with sore head).....sooooooo i have been busy looking up books on the internet...CAROLYN what have you started in my head?????? lol and found this link on books

http://donoregg.blogspot.com/2005/02/bo ... gg_27.html

let me know what books are yours Carolyn ... it will help for your updates x x

also this link on telling the child

http://www.drdonnica.com/articles/00000727.htm


love to you all sleepy ( egg) heads

jenb
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Hope you all are getting /will get a good nights sleep

[Jen1d]

Oh i cant stand this any longer. What are IM doing, they still haven't mailed. I know, i know, its only early but dont they know i am the 1st Lady and need to know NOW

Feel so anxious today as if i am about to sit an exam, my tum is churning

Will let you know as soon as they email

Love Jen x

[CarolynB]

Anna – your info is so helpful. Please please keep posting it here for all of us. It is so good to know how it was for you

Rebecca – glad that you slept so well. Must be the relief as you said. Loved the story. What a beautiful way to tell your child. I may cut and paste it too and keep (hopefully) for the future. Not long now til your ET – you must be so excited. Your sister, coming all that way, has done a very special thing for you

Jen1d – so sorry that they are keeping you waiting babe. So hope that they call/mail soon and you get good news must be agony. Really hope that the lady has done well for you. Remember that it is quality rather than quantity that is going to count this time

JB – glad that you feel well enough to go back to work. Can I ask what you do? Hope that I get the dvd to watch – especially with the George look alike! I have heard that he is McDreamy!!!! Would be amazing if we were in Barcelona at the same time. We will be out there 18th and back 19th. We are also thinking about turning ET into a holiday. Either some days before and/or some days afterwards. We have not had a holiday so would be nice. I also figure that it might pass some of the 2ww. Depends on timing and whether we can both get time off work. I also feel relieved that my sarcoidosis and infertility issues will not be on passed. That is the +ve side of donation.

Vicki – how are you doing with the waiting? As everyone knows I am filling the time with work and reading!

Gill – hope that AF is here for you. I am jigging for you. Understand so well being excited and nervous all at the same time

Kim – great news on the weight loss. That is such a terrific achievement and a boast to your self esteem. I would so like to lose some before tmt but somehow it just does not seem to be happening for me

So went out last night. Thai food. With a girl that I used to work with. She had 3 tries with her own eggs but responded badly. She has had 2 tries with her younger sisters eggs – m/c 1st attempt and m/c twins (boy and girl) at 2nd try. She is now just about to start a frozen cycle with her sisters eggs. Hard hard yards. So hope that it will work for her this time. Good to talk to an actual person going through it especially when we are such good mates anyway. Surreal. But it was a night away from my books

I have almost finished "Experiences of Donor Conception Parents, Offspring and Donors Through the Years" Eric Blyth; Paperback. Pretty good. Wait til I have read some of the others at the weekend and then I can tell you the best. JB will check out the ones that you recommend too. Just meant to be working

Really interested to read all your responses around telling the child etc. We will start very young so that it becomes part of the little persons story and not some dramatic event. That seems best based on most of the research. Outside of close friends then I will just refer to this as ivf 5. Don’t want any child to think that we have posted it on a notice board! Other than here of course but that is different

Almost the weekend. Hope that you are all doing well.

Love
Carolyn
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[Jen1d]

Hi

Well still not any further forward.

Dr Rotondo called and we had a good chat. She said the donor is not ready yet but is pleased my lining is responding to the patches and to keep taking them. She said once the donor has her next scan, she doesnt know when yet, then she will call me if she is ready for EC. When she has EC then we will fly over and have ET 2 days later. She is guessing but said its likely it will be next week but cant say when?????????????
Forgot to ask, what if the eggs dont fertilize?

I also asked about the medications after the test. They provide medi for 10 days after ET then we can discuss when we are over there how we want to get more. She said lots of ladies dont buy any at that point just incase of a bfn, but she is prepared to let us buy the medi, get a prescription or get it in our country.

Speak later, have to pop out

Love Jen x

[CarolynB]

Hi Jen

You are further forward as at least they spoke to you.

They sound positive about your lining and they must be taking care to stimmie your lady very carefully. That will mean it takes a bit longer but hopefully good quality eggs at the end of it.

Sounds to me like they will scan her again on say Monday. See how the follies are. So lets say trigger Monday evening. Tuesday rest day. Wednesday EC and then you would be having ET by next Friday. What do I know but just thinking what it has been like when we have gone through the process here and roughly how the timings work out. Does that make sense?

Sure that they will fertilise. Zero fert rate will be highly unlikely especially with young eggs. Understand they look to use proven donors when we are travelling from the UK.

Sounds like you should be able to get the meds over here. Will your gp arrange? Not sure that I would want to tempt fate by buying meds up front for a BFP.

I am sure that it is going to work out for you. Sure that the waiting is sheer agony. Do you have to have another scan or are they happy with your lining?

Hang in there babe. Sorry it is taking so long but it is the end result that counts.

Love and hugs
Carolyn
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