egg collection and transfer

Discussion forum for those particularly interested in IVF and embryo transfer including frozen embryo transfer.
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PebblesUK
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Post by PebblesUK »

Hi Bekkie

I started doing the HPT's 7 days after transfer, they didn't turn positive until day 10. It's a bit odd that your clinic hasn't told you when they want you to test.

My clinic only do blood tests if the HPT is positive and they make you wait until 16 days after transfer before you are "supposed" to do it. Have you phoned your clinic and asked what they recommend?

With regard to the progestone I really don't know. I have read on here that it will keep AF away but I have also read ladies who have got their AF the day their test was due so that contridicts the other!

Our clinic liked us to pay as we went along so we didn't get any bills through the post! Hide the bill, test in the morning then when it's positive give DH the bill followed by the positive stick - should take the sting away!

Best of luck whenever you test. Mine was a 3 day transfer. I'm going for a gender scan on Saturday so hopefully will report what it is.

Sorry I haven't got time for personals now but I hope the rest of you are ok, sorry for the BFN.

Take care

Jo
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Post by jstrandlund »

Hey Bekki, According to some reading I have done the trigger shot is out of your system 10 days after taking it. So it should be out of your system by now and therefor I would be surprised if you got a false positive. I really don't know for sure if the PIO shots prevent your AF but I would recommend testing soon either with an HTP or with a blood test at your RE office. Mainly because my RE did a repeat Beta and checked all my levels two days after my BFP and found that my progesterone levels were low and needed to increase my PIO shot amount. I am praying for your strong BFP!!!!
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Post by Bubble »

Hey Bekki
I don’t know if this info would be of any help, but thought I should let you know anyway. Few months ago, I missed my period for couple of months and the preggy test came out to be negative. So the Doc prescribed me Provera – synthetic progesterone for 10 days and 5 days after the last pill I got my AF. I was told that progesterone prevents uterus from shedding those linings that are made to thickness for fertilization and when progesterone traces fades away from our body , uterus sheds and we get the AF. So I guess we won’t get AF as long as we are on some form of progesterone. Like Jill said , I think you should take quantitative HCG blood test and this would determine if you are preggy or not(I don’t want you to have the ‘not’ part). Also with additional blood test they can tell you if you are missing any hormones and fix the issue ASAP. We all need you to be healthy and have a perfectly healthy baby , dear! So , go take that test. We all are here for you and praying for the best.
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Post by usma3690 »

Good Luck tomorrow Bekki,

We are all thinking about you!!!

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Post by bekkie31 »

BFN BFN BFN - home pregnancy test done this morning 2.30 am, as I could not sleep. As always these damn things are the bearer of bad news. Why oh why did my 1st IVF not work??? Gonna phone the doc this morning at around 8.00am to see if it is worth to have a blood test. I would have thought that 2 weeks post transfer it would show on the test by now if I was pregnant.

I have not slept a wink since since 2.30am - I have not told DH yet....will break the news to him tomorrow (saturday ).

I have no idea why this never worked and i will be 32 in march - time is running out and I fear i will never be a mum.

:( Bekki xx
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Just phoned doc.. going in to have some blood taken in about 3 hours. I should get back the result today. WHY did this have to happen to me??? BFN BFN BFN BFN . Apart from the fact I had an ectopic last year, everything is supposed to be ok with me???. The embryos transferred were apparently good. I did everything that I thought was right, resting, avoiding stress. I am not even a smoker or a drinker. All women taking drugs, all who smoke, all which kill their own babies because they do not want them anymore - they are the ones who do not have our problem and conceive ok.

Now 14 days post transfer I do a HPT (one designed to track HCG early - as early as 11 days after conception ) and get what I have had ALL my life BFN.

Awake since 2.30am I am shattered already. I know my DH was kind of really thinking it had worked. I was fooled by starting to think positive due to not knowing about progesterone preventing AF coming - so all the time I thought it was good because of no AF - was in the end stupid.

DEVASTATED. GUTTED. AND scared about the future.

Bekki
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Post by usma3690 »

WOW I know how you feel. Your stomach hurts. Your head hurts. You can't get one thought out of your head before another one races in. Waves of grief run over your whole body.

The only thing I can tell you is that everything happens for a reason. I have no doupt that you will be a mom someday. It's just a matter of the right genetics coming together at the right time. I have teenage kids. they are perfect and I love them. Sometimes I think that I would have someone different if I had concieved a month earlier or later. I'm so happy I didn't and I have THEM. Once you get a baby, you will think the same thing.....Oh I love this one so much, she was worth waiting for and I can't image that I could have loved the one I thought I was to concieve like this.

I hope this make sense. We are all here for you. I hope your husband knows how devestating this is for you and I hope you get to try again soon.

Don't give up, it just wasn't your time, but your time will come!!!

Vic
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Post by bekkie31 »

Well folks thanks for helping me along with my first IVF. I won´t be disappearing though as I need all the strength and support possible to get over this.

I went to Docs - blood test confirmed the urine test that I did today at 2.30am. SO BFN is official. It took alot of effort to motivate myself to go in for the test, I really felt like sitting about at home all depressed and going nowhere - but I pushed myself to go and get the test done - a one hour train journey too.

It leads me to think maybe I have other problems - uterus problems - why on earth did two supposedly good embryos not take?? I also did everything correct and avoided stress etc..

The only thing I think may have been a problem was the transfer. It did not take any longer than anyone elses but midway through the transfer I felt this sharp pin prick sensation - not sure what may have caused that? Of course it was a little uncomfortable when they put all the tools inside me - but as they started the transfer there was that pin prick sensation around the cervix. I kind of said "ouch!!!" - and I think they were surprised it hurt. After the transfer when I inserted vaginal progesterone capsules I noticed a small amount of blood - but the amount was so small it did not show on my panty-liner.

Anyway follow up appointment is 21st November. I am quite looking forward to what get said - but I am scared they will just not know what really happened. What do they normally do when an IVF fails? What further tests do they do? - I just thought we could not get preggers because I only have one tube remaining - and of course if the left ovary always ovulates then I will never get pregnant naturally. Maybe I should have a thorough check to include the checking of the right tube? to see if blocked or not? Then it may give me hope should all three IVFs fail? We have tried almost 2 years with just one tube and nothing!!! I am so sad - got to break the news to a few work colleagues too - they really had strong feelings it would work.

It is horrible - very sad indeed.

Bekki xx
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Post by usma3690 »

Chin up! I know of someone who tried 7 times and got a baby! she would do it all again. Just think of this as a process.
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Post by Bubble »

Bekki Sweetie.... I don't have words to comfort you . Its been 3 days since I got my results and I've been trying to stay strong but somewhere deep in my heart , it aches... so bad! I totally understand where you are at now and how you feel. I hope your DH takes it well and support you the way you deserve. God has a plan for everybody and v are not excluded from his plan.Being a Mom is our dream , but we don't know if it would happen or when it would happen. We will keep praying and waiting . Thats all we can do for now. We may not get a definite answer why this happened to us.But being depressed and hopeless is definitely not going to help us at all. We are still breathing aren't we? One of my friend had a baby after a long wait and now the baby has a condition - he don't have immunity and they have to live isolated until he gets better which nobody know when. Something like this will hurt much more than what we are going through when we have to see what the baby suffers. So if we lost this time, maybe it was because the embryo was not good enough and God knew that we will be in more pain if we had this baby.Iam sure that God will giv us the good news when we least expect it!!!!!!!
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Post by bekkie31 »

Yeah Vic thanks for the posts- I will get over it - just need a few days to digest it all. My fear is going beyond the funded attempts. What if it fails three times - then we have to pay the full amount.

Some how I will find a way to fight through. Maybe more will come to light after the next tests that will get done. But I will refuse to try so soon again without having more tests. I may have to have this operation done - just a samll one, where they cut a whole just below your belly-button and get the camera to have a look at your uterus and they also put fluid in the tubes to see if blocked or not. Something may come of this - but i declined to have it doen as I was too scared - but maybe that will be an important step to make before our next try beginning of next year. I hope to have it done this month, if not it will be early january - so IVF could be in Feb or March depending on if what they discover needs medication etc..

I am glad the wait is over though - and I have learned a few things along the way. One thing being progesterone keeps AF away!! It is odd because when I talk to people who have never been through infertlity they do not know about hardly any of what I talk about. I was lucky to have been able to have competed a round, and i know what it is like.

Time to move on - if the right tube turns out NOT to be blocked maybe we can also try naturally - they may be able to control my cycle again like they did in August - and tell us exactly when to have sex etc...

I just should not have chickened out of the operation - I only did vecause it sounded scary. If it means it may possibly increase the chance for a successful IVF then I will certainly do it.

Slowly feeling better already. Thanks and all this support is wonderful- without it would have thrown myself off a bridge a olong time ago :wink:

Bekki xxxx
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Post by bekkie31 »

Thanks Bubble I did not see your post inbetween - yeah. It was obviously just not meant to be - and yeah to have a handicapped child born or a very sick child would also be disappointing too. When i was worried about BFN my husband said something which kind of cheered me up "well even if it is positive something bad could also still happen ". (sorry that was not meant to discourage those with BFPs - just something to help cheer us BFNers up ).

I am sure we can fight through. Luckily I have work over here in germany and my husband works too. It could be alot worse - no job and going through this. It will be a tight squeeze to finance more IVFs but somehow we will find a way. My parents said they would foot all and when not all, the bulk of the next round. I am not allowed to tell my bro and sis - so I thought it was really sweet - but I do not like taking money!!! Maybe if they get involved it will miraculously work next time round???

Oh well- the hardest part for me strangely enough, is the money. I know people say cost for a child doesn´t matter and that if you really want it bad it should not matter if you lose the money, but 1500 UK pounds is a hell of alot and it is gone so quickly - and we are average people not millionaires.

I have coped with one loss already - with the ectopic - so luckily I am not thinking on the embryos too much and what might have been.

Bekki xxx
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Post by usma3690 »

Bekki
I had the dye in the tubes test and it wasn't that bad and only lasted about 10 minutes. It would be worth knowing.
Good luck!!!!

PS This will make you stronger for when your kids are teenagers! You'll need the strength!!!

Vic
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Post by bekkie31 »

Thanks VIC - yeah - mine will be a slightly different procedure though - dye in the tubes and also putting a camera inside me through a small operation - laproscopy or something. So I will be cut open slightly (it was that which put me off ). Best to have this done before the next attempt, I think! I can also keep you posted on how it all goes and how the appoinmtment goes on 21st NOV.

I am slowly waking out of this nightmare- I know tomorrow morning when I wake up I will feel like I have had a bad dream - then it will hit me...NO I wasn´t dreaming.

Another thing I have learned is that if you do those HPTs at the CORRECT time they work and are accurate!!!! It actually helped in a small way doing the teston day of blood test - so I was prepared and so that I kind of knew the outcome. They are certainly scary - especially after so many years of bad news with them.

bekki xx
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Post by Bubble »

iam not sure if you are talking about the same surgery I had last year. I went through laproscopy last year around this time. My doc at that time said I had PCOS and wanted to remove all those bad follies. It was like a half hour procedure under gen anesthesia. 3 lil holes in your tummy - 2 on right and left and one jst below your navel. They passed a dye through my tubes and said i did not have any blocks and claims that they removed bad follies. I was discharged the very same day and was asked to take some bed rest for few days. It is not scary and I think if you haven't doen that b4, it will be a good idea to check out. We gotta do what we gotta do!!!!!!!!!! I will let you know what went at the doc's today when Iam back..Later...
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