Jan/Feb 2010--Cycle Group

[Arabsrcool]

Katie,

everytime I think about your rooster next door, I have to giggle. I am a farm girl and the darn birds do crow all day long. Maybe they will get a hen or two and you can gets eggs from the neighbors (might as well be some benefit!)


rlk1,

Don't give up on Darth until the call comes from doc's ofc. You know as well as I do HPT's can be less than great.

CamiWB,

Congrats on all the embies!. I will be keeping everything crossed that they ALL make it to 3 day and beyond.

afm, I am PUPO!!! Transfer went great, all three embies were fine, two were heading into blast stage before transfer. 2 embies they thawed and are watching are not doing well. I am guessing they will not make it and be discarded. However, I am cramping and feeling bloated. Its all good! 3 hour trip to RE was awful, freezing rain all the way there and back....so it turned into about a 4 hr trip each way. Valium made me loopy this time, now I kinda understand why people want that stuff!

Sorry for all the girls I missed, gotta to back to being a veggie on couch and watch another movie. Or maybe re-read the Twilight Series!

Ronda

[Positivethinking]

Hello ladies, it has been a while... knowing I would have to read 20 pages discouraged me so I am sorry but I only catched up from yesterday.
I wanted to give my schedule. I finally received my protocol when I did my mock ET yesterday.
I should start Lupron on 2/2...I am excited to start soon even if looking at everyones comments sounds like lupron is evil... will see
I should have ET and ER at the end of February.

Katie: I can sooo relate to the rooster problem. I spend vacations in mexico a few years back. I was staying at some family relatives from my DH. They had a donkey and many roosters. That night, I found out dunkeys "bark" (i dont think it is the right word but anyways) all day and all F#@@$$ night and the same for roosters. I always thought roosters were crowing one time when the sun comes up but nooooooo they do it all morning, many, many, many times (like if ounce is not enough)....so I am sooo sorry...I know how you feel...The bee bee gun is the great idea...

Hope644: I love your animations.. they are great. They make ready the posts very intertaining... looks like we have similar schedule.

rlk1: I used to have the same issue with HPT, I used to test every months and it was negative evertime... so I decided to never buy any ever again until I would be sure to be pregnant, meaning at least 1 week late with AF...so trash them. I know they are expensive but really, it is worth it to stay sane...

PUPO girls: good luck, and have a burger for me...I really love the names: Viggo, Poopo and Darth I will keep it in mind when I am Pupo next month..I need to find a name....

Best wishes for everyone doing ER and ET tomorrow...and to th the other great ladies I did not mentioned

BTW thanks for all the advice for freezing my embryos but it will cost me $1500 and I think I will save the money for adoption if this cycle does not work....I want to do international adoption and it cost 20K...So every penny counts.

[karenthescorpio]

Hey everyone. Just a quick update on my cycle. I start my stims tonight! wooo whoo. Nothing much else to report! Hopefully this cycle will be without drama!!!! Hope everyone is doing well. xoxo

[moorebaby]

hello ladies! so i will do personals in a bit, but 1st i need to tell you about my CRAZY appointment today.

so i get my b/w done 1st. then i go back to the waiting room for my u/s. i get seen. i'm asked to come back tomorrow. i have about 14 follies between the 2 ovaries. most are between 11 & 14, with some still around 9 & 10. they want to do another u/s tomorrow to see how much more i progess. anyways so i get dressed & go outside to check with the nurse before i leave. they always like you to check out with the nurse so you can clarify everything.

so the nurse talks to me. i do my ganirelix shot. i always feel more comfortable if someone's in the room with me when i do an injection...i don't mind doing them myself, but just like someone there...just in case.

afterwards, she has me check out with the financial/insurance secretary who also makes appointments for me. so i go there, make my appointment, & we start chatting because she is actually in for the financial/insurance secretary (christine) who is on maternity leave & i ask her how christine is doing...blah, blah. anyways so this nurse debbie, not the same nurse who watched me do the shot, walks by & sees me in the office & tells me not to leave, she wants to talk to me.

well, she ends up coming right back while i'm still in the room chatting with the secretary. now as debbie the nurse walks in, the secretary & i are talking about whether i'll be freezing the embryos. dh & i aren't sure because last time none were able to freeze & we just don't think we want to even freeze them even if they could just because of the thaw process & if they'd survive it. anyways i'm telling the secretary this & she turns to debbie as she walks in & asks her what she thinks about the freezing.

debbie says "well let me go grab your chart." she comes right back & says "well you had 1 freeze last time, so we're going to mix it with the fresh embryos." i'm confused because our $1,000 was returned to us because NONE froze. she says "no you have 1 frozen" as she is looking at the chart. i think well they must have made a mistake when they returned my money, but i don't say anything. that's great news i think.

as debbie almost walks out, she takes a step back & turns around...."oh yeah the reason i wanted to talk to you & told you not to leave is because of the pgd." i look at her & say "pgd? i don't really know anything about that." she says, "yeah you signed the consent for it" so i say "if i signed it, it's because we are ok with doing it if we talk about it & the re tells us that's what we'll be doing" so she says, "well you told us that you want to do it & by the way did you follow up with your insurnace company?" "huh?" i ask her. she says, "you told us that your insurance plan changes as of february & that is why we hurried this cycle for you." at this point i'm confused & thinking what is this lady talking about. then i'm thinking is it me...are these meds messing with me that bad that i'm losing my memory. now mind you, as we are talking she is kind of being a ***** & not taking my confusion & denial to this whole pgd & insurance crap as the truth. she is kind of in my face & rolling her eyes. at this point i feel like an idiot because the other woman (secretary) is looking at me, probably thinking that i can't even keep track of my own cycle. debbie says "you told christine you'd be doing pgd & you'd get back to her about the insurance." the secretary looks at the computer screen & says "christine doesn't have anything noted here."

but debbie continues. so debbie the nurse is saying all this stuff about how i agreed to do pdg & i was supposed to follow up with my insurance. i'm telling her that i'm a teacher & that my insurance plan would not change in the middle of the school year & if it did, it would be in the summer. she is STILL convinced that she is right & basically making me think i'm stupid.

i'm about to call dh because i have NO CLUE what she's talking about. then she goes, "you told us you want to do pdg this cycle because you had a baby with ms & you want to rule that out through this genetic testing of the embryo." that's when i'm like..."umm. i don't HAVE a baby!"

then the secretary looks at debbie while pointing at my name on a piece of paper on her desk & asks her if that's the same name on the chart.

debbie turns white! "omg. i thought you were someone else!!!" she says. she was so embarassed. finally i realize what's going on & at first i'm kind of thinking it's funny. she is apologizing & saying i look like smeone else...blah, blah. as we are walking down the hallway, she whispers in my ear that she thought i was "tasha"

she gives me a name! hello, hippa!!! i don't know who the hell tasha is, but really lady???

then as i'm driving & talking to dh about it, i get upset. i mean really. i understand it was a mistake, but after the 1st, the 2nd, the 3rd time i tell her that i don't know what she's talking about, you'd think she's stop acting like miss know it all & actually LISTEN to me.

it's actually scary if you think about it. she goes by what people look like? you're dealing with eggs & sperm lady! it all makes sense to me now...i've had several conversations with her where acted like she was right & i was wrong...like telling me she had already told me something, when i'd be telling her that she never did.

i feel like i should say something to my re. she actually was in my retrieval last time i cycled. that's scary! she called me today at home & left me a message apologizing. dh said you can tell she sounds nervous. i mean i can complain about her & she could possibly get reprimanded. what makes me mad isn't so much the mistake, but that she did not believe me at all. also, what if she just left the room & forgot to talk to me about the pgh/insurance stuff? then i'd leave the office, thinking we have 1 frozen embryo from the previous cycle.

i'm still in schock. dh is unhappy. he says, it's a sign of disorganization, but more than that it's a sign of an employee who doesn't listen & is stubborn.

[misocial]

Patiently waiting is now OVER...

I got a phone call about 1:30 from nurse... Dr will be calling you in an hour or two. She wanted me to call and let you know she did not forget you today. Well guess what, she forgot me today. I am very upset and PMA level is sucking right now. I am back to being teary eyed and sad. Tomorrow will be a week since they cancelled my cycle, I have been making it day to day and this just really blows. I feel very let down, do they not understand how emotionally sensitive this is, I mean come on this is their JOB. Sorry for venting.....I would rather be angry than sad cause I feel like I am being strung along and my feelings are hurt. Seriously is this common, I read everyones elses post and they get their calls and dont complain. Am I being whinny?

No longer patiently waiting, now mad and hurt. I will be calling first thing in the morning, you know the squeaky wheel and all. My wheel is gonna scream

Thanks to all for waiting out the day with me its now 845pm, sorry no news. My best wishes to all. Marci

[hms]

marci: I'm so sorry you're feeling down, hon. that really sucks that the RE didn't call you...the least they can do is set and MEET an expectation like a phone call. you're not being whiny. i'm pissed just reading the post. just take it one day at a time. and definitely squeak tomorrow!

es: I really can't believe that story about nurse DEBBIE. nurse wratched is more like it. wow. you should definitely tell your RE. the situation goes way beyond not listening, it's completely unprofessional in that kind of environment not to pay heed to who is who and what is what. you're right - it's not the insurance, these are EMBRYOS that can get mixed up because of that kind of incompetence. you were fully prepared to leave that place thinking you had a frozen embryo - GEEZE. I'm really shocked the more I think about it. I had a friend who actually turned down an RE's office because they brought the wrong file into her first sonogram. she was like: i'm outta here! I'm not saying Debbie reflects the entire office, but Debbie should definitely be held accountable.

let's stand up for ourselves girls! Marci - get the speeches going!

[DandMe]

I'm sorry I haven't been more on the ball, ladies... I don't know how busy I can be when I'm not doing anything all day.

So I went for my ultrasound this morning (doc was worried about low e2 - only went from 563 on Monday to 578 on Wednesday). They had a tough time getting a vein but the doctor interupted anyway and told them he was more interested in an ultrasound.

We went from 8 leading follies to 14, with a lot bringing up the rear. And the doc took my Bravelle up to 300 IU and Menopur up to 150 IU. Basically double what I was on before. Also started the meds to prevent ovulation last night.

Next ultrasound is Saturday morning.

Oh, and had a TON of EWCM which totally freaked me out.. but I did some research and it seems it's a sign of rising estrogen and very common during IVF cycle...!

I read every single word of every single post.. just way too tired to do personals tonight. Baby dust, hugs and big tired smiles to all.

[gi]

Morning ladies,

Moorebaby OMG what a story and what a bit*h!!! No wonder you were upset, i am no good for things like that but if j was there he would sort her out!! Very unprofessional and i think you should mention something, on our 4th cycle where none went to blast a different doctor sat us down was very rude and cold and told us we would Never get pregnant. This was on the day of supposed transfer and i was highly emotional she said yeah like we could try once more on day 3 transfer but they will die inside you that day. I was devasted and upset not over not getting transfer but that they said i wouldnt get pregnant ever, so we reported her to our main doctor and then i got pregnant twice!!! Glad i dont have to see here anymore!!

Rlki those sticks are evil i really hope the change to a positive soon xxx

Katie thanks for giving brief on your cycle i understand it a bit more, this will be 3rd time lucky for re!!!

Ashley and Arabscrool congrats on joining the PUPO ladies!!!! Cant wait to hear our 1st Pregnant Mummy

Positivethinking we should be close together in cycling my ER is around 22nd Feb and transfer about 25th (fingers crossed my embies make it)

Cami yeah 10 is great!! Nervous times eh, i hate the days between ec and er as i too have a low fert. rate and can only do day 3.

Misocial - i would be like you and upset, sure i was going mad waiting for that damn hospital to ring back and arrange the d&c, i dont think these people realise what we are going thro and that we need def. dates to keep us going!

Ashley your poor nurse i can just picture her face though you can see where she is coming from!!!

I think i forgot to thank all ye wonderful girls for supporting me thro all this esp. when i was anxious to see if i could get my d&c done in time. I dont comment too much on the girlies stimmulating as i dont know about e2 levels and all that our re's here dont give out that info. just tell you how many follies they see but i do be thinking about ye.

Have a great wkend i am going to visit my 36 wk pregnant friend tomorrow she had 4 m/c in a row and has given me hope!!!
gi xxx

[moorebaby]

good morning ladies!

i don't have time for personals, as it's 6:36am & i have to head out soon for my b/w & u/s appointment...again, lol! but i wanted to wish paty lots of luck on your er today. i'll be thinking of you!

lots of sticky baby dust all around ladies!

love ya,
es

[miyaya]

moorebaby~ I see you are in CT. Which clinic are you using? Are you using RSC by chance?

[turtle0619]

good morning girls!

soooo i am in need of some PMA! today is 1 week down....1 week to go in my 2ww, and its really starting to get to me! yesterday i started to feel AF like cramps...they were really bad...but different then normal. DH chaparones his schools ski club in thursdays so he doesnt get home till 9pm, and i was driving myself crazy wondering about every little feeling! i kept going back and forth..."whats that feeling? that cant be go...poopo is gone!" and then 2 minutes later "ohhh thats different...it usually doesnt hurt there...maybe thats good?" ahhhhhhhhh OMG i cant do this for another week! i woke up this morning feeling ok...no cramps yet...just a lil pulling feeling, and no CM or discharge. i dont know how i'm gonna make it. i want this sooo bad, and i'm so scared to think if i'll ever make it to this point again if this one doesnt stick.
i cant google anymore....google is evil, and tells me nothing!!
help meeeee!
i love you all!

oh and paty good luck today!!! i'm thinking of you!! woohooo

[CamiWB]

Franny--OMG--it's going to be fine!!! In my family, we have a private joke from some commercial about pulling yourself together--but I won't try to make it here so you don't take it the wrong way--but you can do it!! Read back to my posts to Kim and Jacqueline--cramping was a good sign for me--no cramping wasn't. It would be too early for AF cramping anyway--so let's take it as a good sign, here, ok?! You can do this. You just need to find ways to distract yourself--I know it's much easier said than done--but you are going to be ok here. Just focus on the things you CAN control--try to calm your mind. What about a gentle prenatal yoga DVD? Or try to meditate or make an acupuncture appointment? Focus on taking your vitamins and eating healthy food to feed little Poopo!!! No more google. It doesn't help. I know you are going to be just fine--it's only one more week and this day is mostly gone anyway, so really it's like six days. There's a Law & Order SVU marathon on USA tomorrow--so once that's over, it's really only like five days. You're almost there!!!!!!!! Lots of PMA coming your way, lady--you got this!!!!! Stick, Poopo, stick!!!!!

XOXO Cami

[turtle0619]

cami haha i really need a good slap (snap outta it)! its totally too early for AF cramps right? i swear to god outside of IVF i am the most mellow, down to earth, everything will be fine kinda girl, but man this whole thing has changed me. i dont like that feeling of worry, and stress all the time...its too much for this lil hippy girl!
thank you for responding so quick...just hearing it from others who have been here helps so much. (its not like i can call my mom or SIL....they know less then me!)
i think i will light a candle and just breathe! i already told DH we MUST find something to do all weekend to get us out of this damn house!!


BTW...how are you feeling?? anything fun happening in boston this weekend that would keep me busy??

[miyaya]

hi girls,

Turtle~ cramping for me was a good sign too! I agree, likely too early for AF cramps.

Well I just got back from my scan....grrr....my lining is 2.6, 16 follicles on each ovary measuring less than 10! WTH?

[samgarkay]

Hi everyone. Trying to keep up with all the posts, but have been busy at work. Looking forward to the weekend when I can do personals. In the mean time good luck BETH to your ET this Saturday. As for me a quick update, all 7 embies are looking,"beautiful" at day three so we are doing a 5dt on Sunday at 9am.

Samantha