Awaiting Treatment

[wishfull27]

oooo how great is this - as you know DH off to Prague to leave his little sample on Thursday - leaves on 7am flight - but only one flight back at 9.30pm - so you can imagine he is not best impressed at having to hang around all day to get back - our new bestest friends from Prague are going to finish work early on Thursday and take him for dinner before taking him to he airport ... we are just so lucky to have met these good people ... I really believe it was all fate .... and last three nights I have had dreams about being pregnant .. when went for accupuncture last week she asked me if had any strange dreams at which point I had not ... hope its just another positive sign ????

Hope everyone elses day is going good ?????

[Miracle08]

ok....so I come back and everyone but Wishfull disappears...hmmmm....

[Miracle08]

I have inspirational story for all of us ladies....

Well I am not sure who remembers, but I told you about a friend of mine that went through premature menopause at 24 and tried several cycles of IVF with no sucess. Her RE told her she would NEVER have her own biological child and she will NEVER be able to carry a child. So, they told her to get a surrogate and DE's. Well she wasnt ready to give up. She went to a different infertility specialist and she now has a 8 month old beautiful baby girl. AND she is NOW pregnant 5wks 2 days!!! So from being told she WILL never carry a child much less have her own, she had her miracle and just received the news of another. Her new doctor really didnt have much hope himself for her to get preggo again.

miracles do happen...never give up.

[ICSI GIRL]

awww mir -- that IS a lovely story!!!!! we need more like that how you liking school??? any update your friend in hospital??

carolyn --- how awesome that your new bff's in prague have arranged their schedule to accomodate dh!!! they sound like great people!!! now he'll have something to do ----- and we all know how men like to have a purpose!!!

hello to all my other gal-pals out there!!! sorry for the quickie ---- been reading, but no time to post today is supposed to be boss's last day here this week (let's all pray THAT happens!!!) and because of that, some of MY deadlines got pushed up to TODAY vs. end of week.....so am busy-busy once again!!!

talk soon....promise!!! LOVE & HUGS TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!

[PMApsy]

Hello lovely ladies,

Sorry for disappearing; I attended an expert panel in another hospital yesterday, and for some reason I never received the emails giving me the time and place, so I showed up there at 8am and in fact the meeting was only starting at 12:30... so I spent the whole day there, away from you girls! But I'm back! Lots of patients today, but I'm back.

Lee,
How is the week going so far? sending you lots of energy waves! Your post made me smile; you've probably tried it already, but burning sage is my favorite way to cleanse a place in a heartbeat! I do it almost each Friday when I leave my office for the weekend.

Angie,
Hi girlie! Sorry you're so swamped at work... ack, not cool that your deadline was changed! Wow, talk about pressure! I'm sure you can come back to some nice BCBB when you go home tonight! That's gotta take that pressure down! Thanks for explaining the man whore thing to me, lol! Ah, you know... my youngest sister started oral sex at the tender age of 15... and let me tell you, with her petite frame, her blonde hair and her big blue eyes, you'd never believe she had done that. But hey, the most important is not age per se, but the attitude they have towards sex. I think the caregivers' attitude is also key; if you lecture, are too severe or want to impose your own moral standards on your teen, then he/she will shut down and start hiding you stuff. It's just not about authority anymore! This is what happened with my father and his wife when I was a teen, and this is exactly what is happening with my sis and them. They just don't get it...

Miracle,
Glad to have news, but whew there,s a lot going on for you at the moment, poor thing! *HUGS* I hope you find time to take care of YOURSELF in all that. Sorry about your friend; those brain spasm sound pretty scary. I hope it's over soon and they can take her out of her artificial coma so you guys can know if there are any damages. I hope everything will be okay. Glad to know school is doing well, but boy sometimes it's hard to juggle everything! Thanks for asking about my friend; she's 3½ weeks ahead of me. Her condition is very stable, so she goes out a little more, but she never was able to go back to work. Too much risk. On Friday, she finally hit rock bottom and realized she needed help, and quickly, to overcome her insecurity, her need for control and her feelings towards her pregnancy (she suffered from impostor syndrome for a long time). I'm glad she's seeking help, although I don't approve of the person she's seeing. She's a nurse, not a psychologist, and she believes people should only have one or two 2-hour sessions big max. She believes people should only get a good start and finish their evolution on their own; that's why she doesn't believe in the work of psychologists and therapy. Anyway... that woman helped my friend in the past, so I hope she'll help this time also. I just don't think those kind of issues can be resolved in 4 hours. Thanks for sharing the inspirational story!

Carolyn,
Oh, this is exciting! Another step on the way to ET! :D:D How nice that he's going to have dinner with your friends! Is it a long flight?

Thanks for all your nice thoughts about DH. Geez, he's been missing work since Monday... and my husband NEVER complains and never misses work, he really isn't a wuss. He went for physio on Monday night; it helped, but he's still in pain. Apparently, they corrected the pinched nerve, but given that his condition had been going on for years, other places were blocked and with the physio, they started hurting. He says the pain is much better when he gets real rest, so sitting or standing like he does at work does not help. I hate the thought of him staying in bed all day at home; I wish I could do something to help him, but there's nothing I can do.

Other than that, me and Toulouse had a breakthrough yesterday. Toulouse was abused and had a bad relationship with the leash, so tugging firmly on the leash to give a correction (not to hurt him, but to snap him out of an inappropriate state of mind) just didn't work. He kept walking in front of me during walks, while Daria, who had more training with DH (she's 5), behaved well after one or two corrections. Well, I finally cracked the code it seems! I realized that what Toulouse needs is touch; if he walks past my level, I lift my leg and just pat my foot on his chest. It's not a hit, it's just a touch. It worked like magic! After 5-6 corrections, I would just slow down and he would immediately follow my rhythm. I could FINALLY walk him without a constant tension on the leash and send the right energy through the leash, just like Cesar instructs. It was a huge victory for me. I was horribly pissed off at DH after I came back home, all enthusiastic, because he said he never had that problem with Toulouse after he pooped... what a killjoy... not only have I observed that Toulouse pulls on the leash with him, but I cracked the code only after Toulouse pooped indeed... so now I'm not sure if it was the touch or the poop I don't want to celebrate too soon.... I'll try the touch again tonight before he poops to see if I can control him and have a relaxed walk. We'll see.

So take care guys, and have fun today! I'll do my best to be around!

Love,

Sophie xxox

[Sara30]

Hi Ladies

How is everyone????

Awwwww Sophie you had a long wait for your meeting did you have lots to fill your time?? As for my week going great, my little lad I had at the beginning of the week and who is coming back tommorrow has lots of problems wth aggression and he lashes out at me at every opportunity BUT when he was here last time he was so sweet and much more relaxed so I am hoping we will have a repeat of his relaxed state this weekend. He is so adorable but very difficult, he is disabled and if I do get pregnant I wont be able to have him back due to the violence he can display just as it seems he is settling with us. So things can be bitter sweet sometimes.
I have been ice skating with the 3 I had today and it was such good fun, we were all laughing and falling over and feeling those feel good hormones!!! Thankyou for sending me all those energy waves they have definately kept me going!! Yes I use the sage too, I clean my house with it weekly!!! I think we are on the same wave length with these things!! I did a reiki treatment yesterday and felt the enery waves under my hands much more strongly than I have felt before, its the most wierd feeling I have ever felt, my clients stiff neck was so much better afterwards, I sometimes doubt myself when I am working and have to convince myself that I am actually making a difference!!
Amazing result with Toulouse so how did the touch go tonight??

Angie, sorry you are having to work so hard, but with THE BOSS going away will it settle down for a bit??

Miracle I was crying when I read the story about your friend because thats what I have been told and it is so nice to hear that miracles can really happen. I am thinking of you so hard right now sending you calming, positive thoughts, you seem to have so much on your plate right now, I hope your friend is doing ok and she will know you are there even if it is in her subconcious, you just hold her hand when you are with her and pass on all the things you want to say to her and how much you want her to get better, she will feel it and her body will respond, you just believe in yourself that you can pass those healing thoughts and feelings on to her...........

Angel, Becky, hi to you both and hope you are both doing ok.........

Carolyn are you back with us yet? Hope your work has not been too draining..............

AFM Ithink I said AF came yesterday wahaaaayyyyyyyy so rang clinic today and so going for day 0 scan tommorrow. Starting oestradil on Sunday so definately on for a 10/11 March transfer, OMG OMG getting real again now, nerves starting to hit on and off, I am so close to the end of this journey and I so want it to work I can't think beyond the 2ww and not getting the result I know I so desperately want, I think I am going to ask them not to tell me if my other 2 embryos don't make it untill after my 2ww because if they don't this is our last try and I don't think I want the stress of knowing this is our last try if they don't make it. What do you guys think??
As for my blood tests got my results and there is a problem with my clotting factor, BUT it is very minor so the nurse said she would run it by my consultant but she thinks they will not treat it, I did ask her if it could have caused my miscarriage and she felt that no it wouldn't have so will wait and see what my consultant says.
Have been very emotional over the last 2 days or so, perhaps its my hormones, when do you start to feel ok about losing your baby???? I booked an accupuncture appointment yeaterday and just burst into tears when I was telling her about what had happened which quite shocked me........

Well will see what they say tommorrow so will let you know when I do

Night
Lee xxx

[wishfull27]

where has everyone been - expected to have pages to catch up on !!!

Lee - yeh AF is here and now you are ready to rock and roll and get that BFP xx

Mir - loved the story about friend and been unable to concieve - mind over matter always helps. hows your other friend with brain spasms getting on ? Hugs honey it can't be an easy time for you xx

Sophie - hows DH ?? am sure he must be well on the way to recovery now. What delightful recipes has our suie homemmaker got planned for the weeknd??

Ang - hows you honey - lots of BACCAB as Sophie suggested to help the tension release ???? don't work too hard not good for your health !!

Becky/Angel - hugs honeys - thinking of you both xx

Mad week at work - our meeting was good, but then ended up staying up till 3am talking and then up again at 7am I need 8 hours sleep - then badly planned a team meeting for my managers the afternoon after so that was really full on and not home till 9pm .. needless to say I was in bed and asleep by 7.30pm last night and full of the joys of spring this morning !!!!!

DH fulfilled the mission to Prague - he said the specimen leaving room was very tasteful but the porn in Prague they leave is much more hardcore than what is in UK rooms He however missed his flight home cos had flat tyre on hire car - so ended up costing absolute fortune for another flight and overnight acommodation at airport these things are sent to try us !!

Anyway must go and wake him up nicely - got the car booked in at garage and then PT session at gym and then some serious relaxation is going to happen!!

have a great weekend ladies

Love ya

carolyn xx

[PMApsy]

Hello ladies,

Gee, where is everyone?

Carolyn,
Hey girl, sorry about DH's costly adventure! WOW, your week sounded sooooo tiring! 3am?!?!? What in the world did you guys talk about until 3am?? Glad to hear you found a way to spice up your weekend; I hope you're well rested by now!

As for me, my week was very hectic. Thursday morning at 2am my husband woke me up because he was in severe pain. He was livid. I drove him to the ER and, due to a mistake, we were supposed to be seen in 30 minutes but we waited 5 hours. Fortunately, the pain was almost gone by then. But DH was diagnosed with a herniated disc in the sacral region. There is some pressure on the nerves in addition to the inflamation, so he's lost a few small reflexes in his left leg. He was prescribed painkillers and thank goodness, they're working. The problem will probably fix itself, there's nothing we can do but be careful and wait. The doctor put him on short-term disability leave until the end of the month, but DH has to stay active (if he stays in one position for too long, the pain comes back). He'll have a scan in a few weeks and see a neurosurgeon on April 1st to make sure he's making progress.

Then on Thursday, I called my best friend Anne, who is now 33 weeks pregnant, and she told me the bad news. Her cervix had been iffy but very stable for the past 8 weeks, but she had a doctor apt on Tuesday and the situation changed radically. Her cervix is now fully open and she's 1cm dilated. The baby has always been very low, and his head is pushing on the cervix; the doctor could feel the baby's head. My friend is on bed rest now, and she's nervous. After 30 weeks, the risks of permanent damage after a premature birth are very low. However, there are other problems, such as lung development; if the baby's lungs are not mature (some are mature at 32 weeks, some not until 36 weeks), he will need to stay in the hospital for a while, not to mention the trouble starting breastfeeding because the reflexes are not fully in place, and so on. She had cortisone injections to speed up the lungs' development. Her waters could break at any moment. She's aiming for 34 weeks, so we're keeping everything crossed. A few of my friends were in her situation and some still delivered at 39 weeks, so everything is possible.

One of the things that really touched me is that my friend expressed sadness at us not having the time to book a session with a professional photographer. So I organised everything and found a photographer who'll come to her place. I also booked a hair stylist so we can both have a brushing and look nice for the photos. We'll have the session next Sunday, I can't wait! My friend was very enthusiastic and it was a nice surprise for her.

Other than that, nothing much. Work was hectic with the two days I missed, but I managed. It's a long weekend (administrative decision at the hospital), so tomorrow is off and I need the rest. It's great that DH will be home too! The dogs are happy, it's a real treat, two weeks at home with daddy!

Take care lovelies,

Sophie xxox

[wishfull27]

oh Sophie - poor Dh he certainly is having a hard time of it recently - how your giving him lots of TLC ?? that will be nice to spend a day in the week together - have you something nice planned ?

Not sure whats happened to our thread it is soooooo quiet

I am at home doing accounts monday and Tuesday so hope there are people out to play and distract me

Catch you all tomorrow ... I hope

carolyn xx

[wishfull27]

Morning my lovelies

Anyone going to come and distract me from doing my work accounts

[Welshgirl38]

Hey Ladies

So sorry I haven’t been on in ages I have been trying to keep away to save my sanity. I know that sounds like I only go crazy when I’m here (although that could be a factor lol) I just needed a break from the whole thing, hope u all understand. I have never stopped thinking about u all and hoping that your journeys are going well.

A few things have been happening since I last logged on. I’ve had a scan with private Dr who says that I have a few fibroids, but are quite small, but there is a bigger one, that maybe in the cavity of the uterus, so it MIGHT hinder any future embryo implanting there. Altho one obviously did, he isn’t sure weather it was smaller then or not. He says the best thing to do is to have a Hysteroscopy, so he can - 1) have a look to see if it needs removing or 2) remove it should it be In the cavity. So I’m all booked in to get that done privately, but not until April 6th …. 5 weeks away.

My follow up appt went well at the clinic, we asked a lot of questions, some of which included:

Why only 5 of our 15 eggs fertilized. The Dr looked at the quality of our 5 embryos and gave us the grading ... we had 1 x 3 cell (grade 3) 1 x 4 cell (grade 3) 2 x 6 cell (grade 2) and 1 x 8 cell (grade 2) - we had the 8 cell and one of the 6 cell put back - got pregnant (with which one we will never know, but i like to think it was my wee cell 6 - the fighter - but the Dr reckons it was the 8 cell)

Anyhow, he looked back on our other cycles - and because we haven’t really had much to go on, he couldn’t say what the reason was .... eg our first cycle we only fertilized 2 eggs out of the 12 we got (as most of u know it was cos we didn’t want to make too many embryos to throw away - and chose to throw away 10 eggs) i know i know, we obviously now realize that that was a mistake, but we all learn from them i suppose! Our 2nd cycle we only had 1 x egg which fertilized normally, but he couldn’t tell us what was what as the cycle was done at different clinic (the shitty one I was at lol) All he had to go on really was this 3rd cycle - he said it was only a 30% fertilization rate, but he couldn’t see nothing wrong with the eggs or the sperm. The sperm was of good quality as were the eggs, but sometimes - these things happen.

We asked if we could have half ICSI and half IVF for the next go ... he seemed to think this was a good idea and rung thru to the embryologist who looked at our case and discussed having full ICSI instead of half and half. So after about 1 min of deliberation lol - we are going with ICSI next time ... I’m not 100% sure if this is the right thing to do but I trust my clinic fully and I have to kick ass at this last go and do everything we can to get a pregnancy, and hold on to it. So ICSI it is....

We also asked if we could have 3 x embryos put back next time, and was told that depending on the quality of the embryos. eg, if we had 3 x 8 celled embryos he wouldn’t do it based on the fact that i got pregnant the last time, and it was too high a risk for triplets .... So I guess we will know on the day of ET whether we have 3 going back or not.

I asked him if it would be him doing the EC and the ET, cos I didn’t want no one else doing it - he looked quite taken aback, but when I explained that it was HIM that got me pregnant the last time, an I wanted HIM to get me pregnant again, he laughed - but u could see he was well chuffed.

I asked if i could have the exact same schedule as the last time = 18 days of d/r - 13 days of stimms and a 3 x day transfer. I feel more confident going with that one, as it worked last time for us, and I felt more confident on it the last time. I think if I’m positive (like the last time) going into this, then its more likely to work.

We said we didn’t want to go until my April AF - to which he said that was good, cos they were booked up until then anyhow, so even though I’m not ready to go yet, I have to ring on my next but one AF (due in a mth as I’m having my first AF after m/c now) to provisionally get myself booked in for the one after it (which will be end of April AF - if that makes sense) I also have to wait for an AF after the Hysteroscopy, so my April one will be it, then 21 days after I should be ready to rock n roll!

Had to get more screening bloods taken as the other ones had run out in Jan 08 - i STILL have a MEGA bruise cos it really is like trying to get blood out of a stone trying to get bloods from me! And also had to get more consent forms signed (the ones for ICSI, and the ones for having 3 x embryos put back) While the nurse was filling out our forms etc, she advised me to go for some counseling, that it would be worth chatting to her (the counselor) about things that have happened, that it might help with my nerves/stress/worry about the next go ... I can see their point about the counseling, so I said I would if I felt stressed etc in the comming mths ... DH and I have discussed it, and I do think I need something (apart from a valium lol) My AF (started last Thurs) hit me like a bus, I knew she was coming, but I didn’t think it would upset me the way it did.

But last but most deff not least .... he told us cos we had gotten pregnant last time, we stand a dam good chance of getting pregnant this time (that was my fav bit of the consultation)

So ladies - its ICSI for us .... an I should be d/r come May/June this year - a bit later that expected, but I want 2 AF's before I am willing to out myself up for this again ... i feel confident that we can get a pregnancy - and completely trust my clinic to get us there ....

Phew - that was a long posting considering I haven’t been here for so long. I couldn’t possibly catch up on everything that’s been happening, but I will do slowly no doubt!

Bring on ICSI number x 1 and cycle number x 4 <--------- the last one ever!!!!

Thanks for reading ladies, and xxxxx

[wishfull27]

morning hon - good to have you back

Sounds like you went armed with your questions - but also got the answers you wanted - if you trust the doc and have faith in his capabilities thats the best x

Hope all goes well on the 6th - I should be PUPO that day if all goes to plan

What you got planned to pass the next 6/8 weeks then ?? - are you still on health kick??

carolyn xx

[Welshgirl38]

No plan as of yet hun .... am trying to diet (eat healthy) but so far im being crap at it - i was focused there a week or so ago, then the weekend came, my FIL's 60th birthday party - ate out etc an since then ive eaten like a pig lol ....

So u will be PUPO by the 6th wooooohoooooo - that sounds like great news ... how is everything going otherwise hun, u up to anything exciting these days??

xxx

[wishfull27]

no nothing of any excitement to report - I just hate this IVF life on hold thing where you can't plan ahead co don't know if will have BFP or will need money for another cycle ... arghhhhh

thats it feel better now !!!

don't know where everyone else is - must be about time them across the ocean got thre butts out of bed and came to play with us !!!!

[ICSI GIRL]

aaahhh there's the beck we know and love!!! so nice to have ya back girl.....even if only temporarily -- but you do know that you will NEED us once you start all your stuff --- right??? ha, ha!! sounds like the consult went well and HOORRRRAAAYYYY on "confident that we can get you pregnant"!!!! love that bit for sure!!!

carolyn --- so dh thinks porn in prague a bit more hard core eh?? now thats interesting to me!!! i would have NEVER thought a man would think any porn to be hard core!! ha, ha!! so did he get to have dinner w/ your new bff's over there?? you're working from home today huh?? well i'll try to check in/out as often as possible in an effort to keep you entertained

soph --- so sorry to hear about dh's back!!! back pain is absolute worst!! will he be off work for a period of time?? oh and big hugs to your friend who is 33 wks preg --- sending lots of prayers her way!!!

mir --- good weekend?? busy studying???

hiya lee!! have another busy week on tap w/ lots of kiddies in/out?? or having a little rest this week??? oh your ice skating story brought such a smile to my face pure fun!! so ya started your oestradil yesterday yes?????????????? always SO MUCH fun when you actually start meds --- always feels so real at that moment!!! time to kick up the PMA girl!!!!

end of last week my boss was SUPPOSED to be off thur/fri but she ended up being here and was absolute nightmare!!!!! just busy stuff.... not that she was all that horrid.....just didn't get the downtime that i expected -- bummer dude!! have lots to do this week as well -- but just not real motivated at the moment.....was another cold/snowy/dreary weekend --- i'm so ready for the spring!!! sunshine, birds singing, flowers..... ahhhhh!!! i worked on my adoption scrapbook this weekend --- is intended for the birth-mommy as a way for her to 'get to know' us.... i've chosen all my fav pics and told a story with them all --- SO MUCH FUN!!! and i've saved the best page for last --- the "baby page"..... also couldn't really work on that w/ my dss's w/ us this weekend as we've not yet spoken with them about it -- mostly because we still have so many unknowns, we want to be able to answer their questions..... i'm very excited to tell them though --- i'm sure they're going to be just thrilled!!! talked to adoption counselor (ELLY -- LOVE HER) to find out next education classes offered will be in march --- so we'll get signed up for that.....and with any luck at all -- we'll be "in the pool" by the time summer hits!!!! WOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! my attitude has completely changed knowing that not only are we getting this ball rolling again -- but how cool is it that this has all worked out in a way that we'll have stay at home daddy!!!???? no child care worries -- yippee!!!!!

ok girls.........hello to all i've missed!!!!! LOVE & HUGS TO ALL!!!