nikola and wibbs..

JackieT · Post by **JackieT** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 12:38 pm

hi gang glad to see we are all still surviving, how did the appointments go? sorry to see you are all still sick, i have not started to throw up, i do feel a little queasy, and also still very tired, i seem to manage to motivate myself for only a couple of hours at a time, then i get very weak and tired. wibbs, i am so pleased you had a lovely time.. wish i could go too... i could really do with a sunny break now.. val. don't you want to do a wife swap??{like the programme on t.v} nikola do you have a scan on friday also? has anyones swelling gone down yet?? di thanks for the reply on the other post, am trying to rest, but getting frustrated as my house could do with a team of cleaners come in and clean it before the social services cart me away from the dirt.. are any of you pleased with those m& s bra's? i have got no support in them at all, boobs are going out under my arms instead of meeting my tummy, i was wrongly measured in there first time around and im sure 2nd time also, i mean i was a healthy 34dd and now they have got me wrapped in a 38d. oh well enough of this moaning now. can't wait till friday. talk soon love jackie xxx

val · Post by **val** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 3:19 pm

Hi Jackie. Good to hear from you. You're going to have to explain "wife swap" to me. I know we steal programmes from the UK often, like our Trading Spaces and American Idol, but I don't think we've gotten to "Wife Swap" yet. If it has anything to do with me leaving sunny Florida, I'm going to have to say a big "NO". I don't handle the cold weather well, not at all. I have a wierd thing going on here about the maternity bras. I have gone shopping a few time and all the maternity bras I find do have underwires. I guess the underwire concern hasn't made it over here yet. I'm going to ask my doctor about it at my next appt. Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only one who's house is in need of a lot of cleaning. I just haven't felt up to it. Looking forward to hearing about Friday. Love Val

Nikola · Post by **Nikola** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 4:14 pm

Hi girls Its funny when you mentioned 'wife swap' I knew Val wouldn't have a clue what you were talking about and would think us Brits are all involved in some kind of 'swingers' activities!!! This made me laugh. Val, they MUST bring wife swap to the US. Its fab. Two wives swap houses for 10 days, and they spend the first five days doing things exactly how things are normally done and then they are allowed to change the rules and the house must be run like the new wife. Its great. They always make sure that they swap people who are completely opposite. Val is actually quite warm here in the UK at the moment we are still holding temps of about 15 degrees which I guess is around 55-60f (I think!) Believe me this is very warm for us in November!! Val was thinking about you - you know you can order M&S stuff over the internet, you could have a constant supply of percy pigs and maternity wear!! www.marksandspencer.com Talking of bras, Jackie yours doesn't sound right. I'm normally a 34dd and I went and was measured and came away with two 36F maternity bras. They are great. I didn't get the two pack cos they didn't give enough support and the lady who helped me (who was absolutely fantastic!!) told me they were useless. Instead I bought two different ones, one is lacy for special occasions (not quite sure what!) and the other is more like a sports bra (Val try a sports bra if you don't have special maternity bras!) Did you ask for help Jackie? Its hard to tell yourself which fit and which don't. I was told to sit down and the lady ran around backwards and forwards with different sizes and styles it was great. I love being pregnant!! As for the cleaning - I gave in and have employed a new cleaner who comes Monday and Fridays. Its the best thing I've ever done. She only charges £6per hour which works out at about £25 a week, well I used to spend this (and more!) on alcohol so I think its money well spent!!! I went for another antenatal appt (I seem to have them every week!), I'd had some bad abdominal and back pains and got myself a little worried last week (which is why I've been a bit quiet) I was put on bed rest for 48 hours, but I feel much better. The consultant seems to think its my uterus changing shape and that things happen earlier with twins. I can't believe I'm 10 weeks already. I am starting to look and feel pregnant! Jackie the bloatedness didn't really go away, it just took over with pg feelings. I'm starting to relax and enjoy it all at bit more. Are you all? Jackie, I'm sure once you have your scan on friday, you'll feel much better too. My next scan is in a couple of weeks. Have you all been given a due date? Mine is officially 2nd June, but I've been told they are more likely to make an appearance in May, usually between 35-37 weeks. Seems like ages away but I guess once we get Christmas out of the way, it will soon be here...... Right well I've wittered on enough. Made up for going awol for a while. Glad you posted Jackie, its good to see how the old gang are doing! Love to you all. nikola.xxxxx

dyer · Post by **dyer** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:09 pm

just looking for some reassurance, spoke to the hospital yesterday and explained that i have a few pains in abdomen and they said nothing to worry about your body is changing. have my 6 week scan on FRiday evening, can't wait. nikola, you had back pain and are now expecting twins, could this be me too and i'mso constipated. feeling extra tired today, have hit the 6 weeks all very bizarre. take care everyone nicky dyerxx

val · Post by **val** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:27 pm

Hi Nikola. Wife Swap sounds quite amusing, we don't have anything like that yet. All of our swapping shows are still about home or lawn remodels, we haven't quite gotten to 'rules of the house' yet. Maybe the US hasn't figured out what to call it yet. We seem to take your shows and change one word and pretend they are our idea. I checked out the Marks and Spencer website. I do like the bras they carry. Funny thing though, I can order from the US but they will only deliver to the UK. Luckily, I still feel like I have a lifetime supply of Percy Pigs. I've only eaten about 5 of the ones you sent me. I'll be at 12 weeks in a week and a half and am holding on to the idea that I will fill like eating again around that time. Excellent work on hiring a cleaner. I don't ever feel like my house is organized or clean enough to have a cleaner come in. I'm really looking forward to the 19th for my second scan. I'm really excited about seeing those arms and legs. I am due on the 1st of June but you will probably go a couple of weeks before me with twins. Yes, I am starting to relax more about believing I am pregnant and worrying. The doctors office said if I get really anxious and need to have my scan early they will work me in but I don't feel like that will happen. Love Val

Nikola · Post by **Nikola** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 5:36 pm

hi nicky I had really bad pains last week and I'm 10 weeks now, I was quite worried because it just felt like period pain, but my clinic told me it was my uterus changing shape. apparently this normally happens in singleton pregnancies around 12-14 weeks but when you are pg with twins things tend to happen about 4 weeks sooner, so she thinks this is what the pains were. Try not to worry (I know this is easier said than done!), drink lots and if you are constipated try prunes and lots of green leafy veg. I'm sure (but please check!) you are allowed to take things for constipation e.g. senakot (I've taken this before and it definitely gets things going - its natural so I'm sure you're allowed to take it). The worry never goes away does it! You spend the whole time on the tmt worrying and then just as you think you've made it the worrying gets even worse. You will feel much better once you have your scan and see whats inside. The other thing I have is a large cyst which is bashing against my ovaries causing pain too - this I'm told is quite common. Join in our 'early days gang' we are all newly pg and going through all the aches and pains together!! love nikola.xx

Nikola · Post by **Nikola** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:09 pm

hi val its funny to post to you three times in one day, I was thinking about you this week and how I'd not heard from you in ages and then today we post three times!! How stupid about the M&S website. Maybe when they put me on the board because of their huge increase in percy pig sales I can recommend the deliver to the US!! How exciting that our due dates are almost the same!! I feel very luck after reading everyone elses posts about not having had many scans or appointments. I've had loads. I've had two scans already and am having another the week after next. I've had an appt with my hospital consultant, I've had an appt with my midwife, I've had an appt with my gp. I seem to see someone every other week at the moment! I'd rather be well supervised than not!! I figure with this many people looking after me, if anything were to go wrong at least they would spot it early! You will be about 12 weeks when you have your next scan, so the baby will be fully formed and you should see a lot more. Have you decided to have any tests done? We decided that we would want to keep the babies regardless of the results so have decided not to bother. I think they are both a gift and very special gifts that we will treasure always regardless of perfection. As I have genetic traces of ginger hair and freckles I know they are not going to come out 'perfect' anyway!!!! Well its 10pm here and my bedtime, so I'll love you and leave you. Good to catch up with you today!! love nikola.xx

BelB · Post by **BelB** » Wed Nov 05, 2003 10:14 pm

Hi there, Would love to be part of the "early days gang", am six weeks and a bit (probably v. similar to Nicky), have felt all sorts of twinges and pains, in my groin, in my side, floating around generally etc. Constipation is the pits, am on Metamucil and prune juice (dh calls it "poo juice"), have read not to take Sennakot 'cause it can cause "explosive bowel movements" which might be dangerous for the embie, don't know how accurate this is though (is in a fab book called "Up the duff" by Kaz Cooke, and Australian author, v.v. funny). I don't scan until week seven (my consultant is in the UK at the moment...please send her back to me), so am rather stressed, every pain I think is something terrible, and am v.v. scared of an ectopic (no particular reason, am just a born worrier), but hopefully things are progressing normally.. Appreciate the support for you guys. All the best Belinda (aus chick)

Di · Post by Di » Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:02 pm

Hi all, Nikola - how's the abdo pain now? Settled I hope. I've had a low abdo ache at times and keep thinking well thats everything growing and stretching. But I've some pain I'm gonna know about in a week or so am I? Belinda - both times I've been pg I've had pain on the left lower side of my abdomen and have been convinced that at scan it would be ectopic - but neither times where. Hope that reassures you somewhat! Fortunatley I've not suffered from constipation - just at the loo +++ for a widdle, especially at night! Val - your next scan is the day before mine - seems like ages away although the time does seem to be passing quicker than it did in the 1st few weeks! Jackie - good luck for Friday! I've been for a back massage today - lovely! I pulled a muscle under my left shoulder blade last week and its been really aching. Anyway, I was asked whether I've been having headaches - which started 2 days ago and was told that not only is my shoulder all knotted but my neck is as well and that's what's causing the headaches. So I am uptight - and I thought I was doing ok!!! Di

val · Post by **val** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:08 pm

Hey Nikola. I was experiencing a bit of depression the last couple of weeks and really kept to myself. I wasn't answering my phone and generally didn't want to talk to or see anybody. I did have to keep coming to work and deal with people but that's all I could take. Anyway, I think I've snapped out of it and now you are going to hear from me much more often. It's great that you have gotten to continue to have appts. I think that was part of my problem. I was used to so much attention about my pregnancy and then, suddenly, all of the appts stopped. I had a nurse visit a couple of days ago which really got me pumped up again. I don't think I am going to have any tests done. I'll make my final decision after I talk it out with my gp on the 19th. I have a great friend with an amazing 15 year old daughter. She was born with a type of syndrome (can't remember the name) and had heart problems, cleft palate, bone structure defects, etc. It scares me sometimes to think that maybe if my friend had all the extra tests, the docs may have suggested terminating the pregnancy. She is now such an amazing child, so sweet, smart, and happy. Like you, I do believe I will keep my baby no matter what. You're funny, I know once your little ones are in your arms, ginger hair and freckles or not, you will believe they are the most perfect miracles ever. Welcome Belinda. All of the signs you mentioned, that have you stressed, all sound like good signs to me. I'm a born worrier too, but luckily each week gets a little better. I am at 10 1/2 weeks now and had a little scare last night with some spotting. Of course, I worried, but nothing wrong today and still feeling sick. So, worrying is just part of it all but there is so much excitement too. Love to everyone! Val

val · Post by **val** » Thu Nov 06, 2003 3:22 pm

Hi Di. You posted the same time I did so I didn't see your post until later. I didn't want you to think I was ignoring you! You must be a good girl and drinking lots of fluid to avoid constipation. I haven't been so good, I have a really hard time keeping down liquids so have really had a struggle with the constipation. It's so funny the things we tell each other! I am in dire need of a massage, my neck and head are are really hurting, but if my husband even touches me, I feel like I am going to be sick. I am hoping for a miracle at 12 weeks with no more sickness so that I can start being pampered again. Belinda, I had all of the sharp pains too that made me think it could be eptopic, but isn't. Those pains seem to be normal and expected. Love again! Val

BelB · Post by **BelB** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 10:42 am

Hey gals, Thanks Val and Di for your words of encouragement. Funny isn't it, while you're on IVF you just wait for that elusive positive and think when it arrives, all your troubles will just dissapear..Then you celebrate the positive (and keep celebrating it), but then the worry sets in, will I make it to the next scan, will the baby be where it's supposed to be, what's that pain in my groin etc etc etc..We are such worriers I think, I sometimes wonder whether IVF creates that in us, or if we ere like this to start with..I guess it is an academic arguement though, I know that without IVF, dh and I wouldn't have this amazing life, I'm so grateful! Constipation is a strange thing to talk about, I haven't even spoken to my close girlfriends about it (but then am too scared to tell anyone that we're pg at this stage!), but feel entirely comfortable talking to you girls on the other side of the world about it. I'm an Occupational Therapist, part of my job is seeing children with constipation and soiling problems, so am entirely comfortable talking about all such things (just usually with the under ten population!!!) Thanks again, look forward to more chats, am off to get a new bra this weekend me thinks, my current bra is feeling rather flimsy at this stage! B

Wibbs · Post by **Wibbs** » Fri Nov 07, 2003 6:30 pm

Hi Girls Sorry for being a bit quite, since being back from holis. But first week back at work....so i'm sooooooo tired at the moment, that's what you get for having a month off.!!! Anyway glad to hear that you are all well and everthing is hanging on in there!. Saw the Doctor today and heard the heartbeat....WOW very loud and VERY VERY FAST...and I cried...(alot) I was very happy to hear that baby was good, but it made me sad to think of my other little one I lost at 6 weeks, but a friend of mine told me that they go on to be sprits in heaven and grow up as normal children, which is a nice thought, so I think I will keep that thought. My due date is the 3rd June, so we will be 1/2/and 3 well Nikola will be first with the twins, please remember to tell us that the birth is a doddle. Due for another scan in about a week (my Third), and I am not having any test either,whats the point, haven't come this far and been thru so much shit to get rid of it. But each to their own. Looking pg now and clothes are begining to be tight, so on a shopping spreed this weekend. Still feely quezzy but not as bad, so must go and eat somthing soon will catch up with you all later. Love Wibbs and Bump pg 10wks 2 days.

Di · Post by Di » Mon Nov 10, 2003 4:13 pm

Hi All, Val- don't worry about I didn't think for a min that you were ignoring me!!! I can def recommend a massage - I feel so much better and am going for another this week. Belinda - what date is your scan? How are the abdo pains? Nikola - what are you up to at the mo? Nicky - how did your scan go on Friday? Wibbs - so glad that your app't went well and that you got to hear your baby's heartbeat. Your bound to think about the little one you lost and be upset. When I m/c at 10 weeks 2 years ago I went to see a psychic (know that not everyone is into it) and she said it was a girl and that my mam was looking after her. That really helped me - means my mam got the grandchild she always wanted. Infact it is because of that psychic that we went to Notts - she said that there was a Dr in Notts that could help us and that we would have a baby. And look what's happened! I've had a phone call from The Park hosp to say my natural killer cells are raised again so I've to have another lot of immunoglobulin - hopefully on Friday! This week I start to reduce my medicines - pessaries are reduced from today!! And I can start reducing the steriods from next week! Still to continue with the heparin injections though til 16 weeks! Di

Nikola · Post by **Nikola** » Thu Nov 13, 2003 2:56 pm

Hi gang I don't get on here much, so its lovely to catch up with what you are all doing! I seem to be doing ok so far (11 weeks today). Still feeling sick, tired and fat. My next scan is in two weeks and then I have another consultation the week after. Then I'm off on my belated honeymoon to Mauritius for some serious relaxation - I can't bloody wait! I'm expanding rapidly! I've ordered a whole heap of stuff from the internet. My dh said the only relief he can see is that I don't have any excuse to buy new shoes because its the only bit of my body that shouldn't grow! I've had to get new everything else. Even my knickers don't fit comfortably anymore....... I'm hoping that I'll look properly pg by my holiday rather than some fat knacker who ate too much (which is what I look and feel like at the moment!!) Its not a good look! Hope everyone else is ok. love nikola.xxxxx

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