Hi Guys
Welcome to our new home!! I left a message on the previous thread following on from your kind messages.....it was getting a bit long so I thought we could start a new one!!
Love
JenFx
DI pals 2
Hi Caz/Jen
Definitely a good idea to get a new thread started - we fill them up so quickly don't we!!
Hope you are both ok, noticed on another thread Jen that you are just waiting for AF and then will start IUI again - good luck! Caz, I know you are on the countdown, are you waiting for AF too?
I will be seeing my new consultant two weeks today so hopefully will know what I am doing then!
Millie x
Definitely a good idea to get a new thread started - we fill them up so quickly don't we!!
Hope you are both ok, noticed on another thread Jen that you are just waiting for AF and then will start IUI again - good luck! Caz, I know you are on the countdown, are you waiting for AF too?
I will be seeing my new consultant two weeks today so hopefully will know what I am doing then!
Millie x
Hello again girls, have just read the last couple of messages on the end of our last thread and wanted to say thanks to both of you for the info on the LFC. I should only be going there literally for the insemination so guess I will only really be involved with the nurses? Would that be right?? Anyway, will let you know when I know more. At the moment, still worrying where the hell the money is going to come from - although DH keeps telling me not to worry!
Jen, it sounds like your eggs are the same as mine!! They prefer the natural environment as opposed to the lab! They also said to me that the likely reason for the failed IVFs were that the embryos arrested as did all the others. Guess it sounds quite logical but VERY disappointing.
Are you doing anything nice for Valentines??
Millie x
Jen, it sounds like your eggs are the same as mine!! They prefer the natural environment as opposed to the lab! They also said to me that the likely reason for the failed IVFs were that the embryos arrested as did all the others. Guess it sounds quite logical but VERY disappointing.
Are you doing anything nice for Valentines??
Millie x
Millie- think I replied on the other board - your DH is right dont worry about the money - just chill. I guess you are right it might just be nurses - altho wouldnt surprise me if one of the doctors actually did the procedure. They were all very sweet to me and I felt (relatively) fine when I was in there with my various procedures.
REALLY hope its all OK!
Feeling slightly hungover this morning. Had such a shitty day yesterday - heard about ANOTHER friends of ours having a baby (their 1st) GRRRRRRRRRRRR, and then had to go and see a friends new born baby - more smiling whilst I was crying inside! So - had a couple of glasses of vino last night with teh DH - nice!
Feel a bit less sorry for myself today - must say I am SO tired of feeling like this tho - SO fed up of my heart sinking everytime someone tells me the "good news". Thank GOD I have you guys to chat to - not sure sometimes that DH really GETS it?? Know what I mean?
Take care!
Cazx
REALLY hope its all OK!
Feeling slightly hungover this morning. Had such a shitty day yesterday - heard about ANOTHER friends of ours having a baby (their 1st) GRRRRRRRRRRRR, and then had to go and see a friends new born baby - more smiling whilst I was crying inside! So - had a couple of glasses of vino last night with teh DH - nice!
Feel a bit less sorry for myself today - must say I am SO tired of feeling like this tho - SO fed up of my heart sinking everytime someone tells me the "good news". Thank GOD I have you guys to chat to - not sure sometimes that DH really GETS it?? Know what I mean?
Take care!
Cazx
Hi Caz,
Soooooo sorry you are feeling down - feels like the whole world is having babies doesn't it!!!! Seems like the world and his wife are asking me if I'm going to have a brother or sister for my little girl at the moment! 'I'm trying!' I scream, only inside though of course!!! Outwardly, I just say that I hope so and quickly change the subject!!
Hope you feel a bit better today, spend some money on yourself and in a few weeks you'll be starting what will hopefully result in your much longed for baby. How does your DH feel about this all starting again soon? Is he excited about it or still unsure about the donor aspect if it comes to that?
Love
Millie x
Soooooo sorry you are feeling down - feels like the whole world is having babies doesn't it!!!! Seems like the world and his wife are asking me if I'm going to have a brother or sister for my little girl at the moment! 'I'm trying!' I scream, only inside though of course!!! Outwardly, I just say that I hope so and quickly change the subject!!
Hope you feel a bit better today, spend some money on yourself and in a few weeks you'll be starting what will hopefully result in your much longed for baby. How does your DH feel about this all starting again soon? Is he excited about it or still unsure about the donor aspect if it comes to that?
Love
Millie x
hello everyone,
I hope you don't mind me butting in, only it's good to read about other people going through the same thing as me. We have MF currently trying to save for a biopsy as DH has no sperm in sample, he had mumps in adolecence and we are told that this is probably the reason why. Last year we had 3 and one cancelled attempt at diui but then the consultant said that we should try ivf as 3 goes at iui without success usually means that it won't work. So we've spent the last 8 months with dh having investigations on the nhs and now we are trying to decide whether to save for the ivf, hoping that they can find some sperm in the biopsy. A bit of me would like to carry on with the diui, it's cheaper and puts less stress on the body, I think.
Has anyone had any success with diui and how many goes did it take
I would be glad of any advice that anyone could give me
good luck to all of you
with love from tracy xxxx
I hope you don't mind me butting in, only it's good to read about other people going through the same thing as me. We have MF currently trying to save for a biopsy as DH has no sperm in sample, he had mumps in adolecence and we are told that this is probably the reason why. Last year we had 3 and one cancelled attempt at diui but then the consultant said that we should try ivf as 3 goes at iui without success usually means that it won't work. So we've spent the last 8 months with dh having investigations on the nhs and now we are trying to decide whether to save for the ivf, hoping that they can find some sperm in the biopsy. A bit of me would like to carry on with the diui, it's cheaper and puts less stress on the body, I think.
Has anyone had any success with diui and how many goes did it take
I would be glad of any advice that anyone could give megood luck to all of you
with love from tracy xxxx
Hello Trace,
My little girl was born as a result of my very first DIUI treatment. I have since had 7 unsuccessful attempts in the hope of having a sibling for her. My clinic told me that people who try to conceive naturally can be trying for months and months and then fall pregnant with no reason why it shouldn't have happened earlier so IUI is really the same situation. Looking at it logically, I don't see how they can say this isn't going to work after 3 or 6 or however many tries. I then tried two IVFs but it seems that my eggs don't like being fertilised outside of the body and the embryos were arresting so we are now going back to DIUI. YOu are absolutely right, IUI is much much easier on the body and a million times less stressful
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Millie x
My little girl was born as a result of my very first DIUI treatment. I have since had 7 unsuccessful attempts in the hope of having a sibling for her. My clinic told me that people who try to conceive naturally can be trying for months and months and then fall pregnant with no reason why it shouldn't have happened earlier so IUI is really the same situation. Looking at it logically, I don't see how they can say this isn't going to work after 3 or 6 or however many tries. I then tried two IVFs but it seems that my eggs don't like being fertilised outside of the body and the embryos were arresting so we are now going back to DIUI. YOu are absolutely right, IUI is much much easier on the body and a million times less stressful
Good luck with whatever you decide.
Millie x
hi all
3 times doesnt seem very many - I mean isnt that just like saying if you have sex 3 times (at the right time of the month) and dont get PG then you need IVF? IF you have got your head round the DI thing - then I'd certainly give it a fwe more goes. IVF aint no walk in the park - on the other hand - I suppose that if theres a remote chance of IVF working for you with your DHs sperm - then I'm sure for you DH it would mean a heck of a lot to try it at least once?? Will you be able to get fundin on the NHS? I'm assuming that if your dh needs a biopsy - then you will have ICSI/ IVF - which is what we did last year. If you have ANY qs about the biopsy or anything - dont hesitate to ask.
Mu dh had mumps at 16 - no sperm in ejaculate but they found a few "twitching" (dont laugh!!) ones when they did the biopsy - they said that that was all they need - and we did get 3 embies - but sadly none survived.
Have you considered doing the IVF - , trying to get sperms from your DH with a biopsy - but also having a donor back up, in case they dont find any viable sperms -thats what we are doing next time?
Anyway - take care!
ps - meeting girlfriend tonight who I know has been trying for a baby for ages - no joy - part of me is really scared that she'll announce the news tonight - god -I have turned into a B*tch!! Oddly tho - whilst I feel gutted when most people announce they are pg - when someone I know has been struggling announces it I am usually thrilled......so lets see!
pps - did anyone see sex in the city last night, descrining the "baby race"......sooooo true!
Cazx
3 times doesnt seem very many - I mean isnt that just like saying if you have sex 3 times (at the right time of the month) and dont get PG then you need IVF? IF you have got your head round the DI thing - then I'd certainly give it a fwe more goes. IVF aint no walk in the park - on the other hand - I suppose that if theres a remote chance of IVF working for you with your DHs sperm - then I'm sure for you DH it would mean a heck of a lot to try it at least once?? Will you be able to get fundin on the NHS? I'm assuming that if your dh needs a biopsy - then you will have ICSI/ IVF - which is what we did last year. If you have ANY qs about the biopsy or anything - dont hesitate to ask.
Mu dh had mumps at 16 - no sperm in ejaculate but they found a few "twitching" (dont laugh!!) ones when they did the biopsy - they said that that was all they need - and we did get 3 embies - but sadly none survived.
Have you considered doing the IVF - , trying to get sperms from your DH with a biopsy - but also having a donor back up, in case they dont find any viable sperms -thats what we are doing next time?
Anyway - take care!
ps - meeting girlfriend tonight who I know has been trying for a baby for ages - no joy - part of me is really scared that she'll announce the news tonight - god -I have turned into a B*tch!! Oddly tho - whilst I feel gutted when most people announce they are pg - when someone I know has been struggling announces it I am usually thrilled......so lets see!
pps - did anyone see sex in the city last night, descrining the "baby race"......sooooo true!
Cazx
hi everyone
thanks so much for your comments, they echo my feelings exactly. We cannnot get nhs funding as I have a daughter from a previous relationship. It seems ridiculous that if my dh left me and went with someone who had no children then they would be able to get help on the nhs. But then life is not fair is it.
We have decided that we are going to go for the biopsy and find out once and for all if there are any sperm in there. This question has to be answered before we do anything else.
Caz. I have never come across anyone else who has the mumps problem, your situation is the same as ours.
Can anyone tell me, is a biopsy the same as Tesa. We have been quoted 1,450 for a biopsy at our local clinic but I have done some research into this and the price at other places for tesa ranges from about 600 upwards. I might look into going to another clinic.
We are both completly at ease with donor thing (well as much as anyone can be) I had reservations at first mainly about whether the child would look like either of us, In my dh's family all the boys look very similar. But having said we look after a friends little boy quite often and people always think that he's ours, they even comment on how much he is like dh.
My only worry about using a donor now is that due to they new rules being introduced, there may be a shortage of donors coming foreward.
Well i think that I have gone on long enough, I have no one else to talk to about these things. Apart from dh, but then with regards to him I often feel like shirley valentine ( hello wall)!!
thanks so much for listening
with the best of luck and love to everyone
Tracy xxxxxxxxxxx
thanks so much for your comments, they echo my feelings exactly. We cannnot get nhs funding as I have a daughter from a previous relationship. It seems ridiculous that if my dh left me and went with someone who had no children then they would be able to get help on the nhs. But then life is not fair is it.
We have decided that we are going to go for the biopsy and find out once and for all if there are any sperm in there. This question has to be answered before we do anything else.
Caz. I have never come across anyone else who has the mumps problem, your situation is the same as ours.
Can anyone tell me, is a biopsy the same as Tesa. We have been quoted 1,450 for a biopsy at our local clinic but I have done some research into this and the price at other places for tesa ranges from about 600 upwards. I might look into going to another clinic.
We are both completly at ease with donor thing (well as much as anyone can be) I had reservations at first mainly about whether the child would look like either of us, In my dh's family all the boys look very similar. But having said we look after a friends little boy quite often and people always think that he's ours, they even comment on how much he is like dh.
My only worry about using a donor now is that due to they new rules being introduced, there may be a shortage of donors coming foreward.
Well i think that I have gone on long enough, I have no one else to talk to about these things. Apart from dh, but then with regards to him I often feel like shirley valentine ( hello wall)!!
thanks so much for listening
with the best of luck and love to everyone
Tracy xxxxxxxxxxx
HI Trasy
Yes the biopsy is the say as TESE- he will feel a bit bruised for a few days - but its really not too bad. (Altho being a man he'll probably moan ALOT!!!!!)
Totally know what you mean re shortage of donor - shocking isnt it. They REALLY havent thought that one thru at all.
Re the baby looking like your DH - I totally take yr point but - we just went to see a friends baby and I heard myself saying "o doesnt she look like her dad" - I dont think she does at all - she just looks like any other new born baby to me.....but I think people always say it anyway!
TAke care
Cazx
Yes the biopsy is the say as TESE- he will feel a bit bruised for a few days - but its really not too bad. (Altho being a man he'll probably moan ALOT!!!!!)
Totally know what you mean re shortage of donor - shocking isnt it. They REALLY havent thought that one thru at all.
Re the baby looking like your DH - I totally take yr point but - we just went to see a friends baby and I heard myself saying "o doesnt she look like her dad" - I dont think she does at all - she just looks like any other new born baby to me.....but I think people always say it anyway!
TAke care
Cazx
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Hi Guys
Hows it going!??
Caz - any news of dates yet??
Tracy - I think everyone on this DI thread can empathise with you........as for the NHS, don't get me started. I have already written to numerous goverment people about the way fertility things are funded, I think it is a disgrace. Where I live in Hertfordshire, I tried to get my drugs for my next DIUI through my GP to lighten the cost a bit - only to find out that they would do sweet FA to help us but he let slip that they had a budget for varicose veins. This annoyed me so much that I have written to the head of the PCT!!
Told you I would rant about the NHS!!
I am very impatiently waiting on my next AF which is due some time after this Sunday. I have obviously had a period after my failed IVF, does anyone know if the next one comes late or generally on time??
Ridiculous question I know but I just want to get on with it!!!!!!
Love to all
JenFxx
Hows it going!??
Caz - any news of dates yet??
Tracy - I think everyone on this DI thread can empathise with you........as for the NHS, don't get me started. I have already written to numerous goverment people about the way fertility things are funded, I think it is a disgrace. Where I live in Hertfordshire, I tried to get my drugs for my next DIUI through my GP to lighten the cost a bit - only to find out that they would do sweet FA to help us but he let slip that they had a budget for varicose veins. This annoyed me so much that I have written to the head of the PCT!!
Told you I would rant about the NHS!!
I am very impatiently waiting on my next AF which is due some time after this Sunday. I have obviously had a period after my failed IVF, does anyone know if the next one comes late or generally on time??
Ridiculous question I know but I just want to get on with it!!!!!!
Love to all
JenFxx
HI jen
I too am waiting AF - meant to be here Sunday - where is it?? Totally irregular always - and I can tell its coming
Anyway- I had period as per norm after faileed ICSI - but the one after that was about a month late!!!! I think EVERYONE is differnt tho. I do think that the drugs take ALOT longer to work out of yr system that the docs warn you. Am sure its why I was so emotional for WEEKS after my last tmt.
HOPEFULLY - I should have first inj in about 3 weeks , subject to when my AF decides to arrive - cant BELIEVE it?!
I ahev been totally dismissive of doing anything special this time - did EVERYTHING last time - but am wondering if I shoudl try acupuncture before and after ET this time - have heard that can work - any thoughts?
Hows everyone else?!
CazxXxx
I too am waiting AF - meant to be here Sunday - where is it?? Totally irregular always - and I can tell its coming
Anyway- I had period as per norm after faileed ICSI - but the one after that was about a month late!!!! I think EVERYONE is differnt tho. I do think that the drugs take ALOT longer to work out of yr system that the docs warn you. Am sure its why I was so emotional for WEEKS after my last tmt.
HOPEFULLY - I should have first inj in about 3 weeks , subject to when my AF decides to arrive - cant BELIEVE it?!
I ahev been totally dismissive of doing anything special this time - did EVERYTHING last time - but am wondering if I shoudl try acupuncture before and after ET this time - have heard that can work - any thoughts?
Hows everyone else?!
CazxXxx
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Hey Caz
Im sure you are so excited about getting started!! Bloody AF never there when you want it and always there when you don't!!
I have a funny feeling that my AF is going to follow the pattern of yours after your ICSI. I am due on Sunday but I have just had all the symptoms of ovulation so I think it will be two weeks late!! - pants!!!!!!!
Have you decided whether you are going to have DI as backup this time or not?
As for acupuncture.........i was going to do it, but I went to my gynecologist (not at the clinic - my own one) and he is an infertility specialist and he said there was no really sound info to say to go ahead and felt that it would be better not to as it could interfere with what was going on naturally - so I am going to give it a miss..........its up to you really, if it makes you feel better, go for it. I think I am just going to have a massage or two for relaxation purposes.
Once my annoying AF comes I will be on Puregon for my stimulated DI........so it looks like we will be cycle buddies!!
Look after yourself.
Love
JenFxx
Im sure you are so excited about getting started!! Bloody AF never there when you want it and always there when you don't!!
I have a funny feeling that my AF is going to follow the pattern of yours after your ICSI. I am due on Sunday but I have just had all the symptoms of ovulation so I think it will be two weeks late!! - pants!!!!!!!
Have you decided whether you are going to have DI as backup this time or not?
As for acupuncture.........i was going to do it, but I went to my gynecologist (not at the clinic - my own one) and he is an infertility specialist and he said there was no really sound info to say to go ahead and felt that it would be better not to as it could interfere with what was going on naturally - so I am going to give it a miss..........its up to you really, if it makes you feel better, go for it. I think I am just going to have a massage or two for relaxation purposes.
Once my annoying AF comes I will be on Puregon for my stimulated DI........so it looks like we will be cycle buddies!!
Look after yourself.
Love
JenFxx