Well today is my due date, but as you all know the girls have already arrived!! They are 7 weeks old tomorrow......how time flies when you are deprived of sleep! (Nicky/Jules you never told me JUST how hard it is at night!!!!!!!!)
Florence and Amelia are 'sunbathing' in the back garden in their bugaboos, so I thought I'd get on here and send you all a little post!
Before I forget - did anyone see the magazine supplement in the Mail on Sunday this week - there was an article about what is 'THE' celebrity pushchair of the moment.....and guess what it was - a BUGABOO!!! Bloody Gwynnie is copying me (I wonder if she ate lots of percy pigs too!). I do like to be a trendsetter for the stars. Amelia and Florence are happy that Apple is copying their style.
The health visitor came on Friday and weighed the girls - both are doing great. Florence is now 6lb 2oz (4lb 9oz at birth) and Amelia - who is currently perched on my shoulder, hence any spelling mistakes! - is now 5lbs 4oz (3lb 8oz at birth). They are skinny little things but incredibly long - not sure where that comes from!
Poor amelia is seems destined to follow in her mothers unfortunate footsteps and is showing flickers of ginge in the hair........oh no another Fizz!!! Traci I'll be sending her down to you for some highlights as soon as its long enough to get the foils on!
I'm exprsessing every 3-4 hours and amelia gets most of this (lucky her cos it inevitably contains a drop of red wine - having twins drives you to alcohol, not that I needed any encouragement!!)
I would like to say that they are both in a strict gina ford routine but as amelia is currently sat wailing like a newborn lamb I guess this isn't really true!! Florence has taken to waking at 5am an hour before her morning feed knowing full well mummy is so knackered she will get to come in our bed for a cuddle until feed time - this HAS to STOP!!!!!
oh bugger, i give in, i can't stand this bloody noise in my ear any longer, i'm off to calm amelia down and remind her she is supposed to be asleep!"!!!
hope you're all doing ok. i nip on and read what you are all up to, even if i don't always get chance to reply!!!!
love to you all
nikola & a now loud screaming amelia!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Honestly you will give Amelia a complex (at least you didn't name her after a piece of fruit - Apple I ask you!) Its bananas!!!
She is lovely and you don't look like Fizz either - Traci ignore her!
Very quiet here today - funny just you and me again and you have had twins. Must admit to forgetting it's your due date but I do know when they were born so no worries there!
You will be giving everyone a bugaboo complex - we need to keep up with the Nikola's - Helen Reid is - she is getting a red one (know you weren't allowed that colour!)
Glad all well even if not strictly Gina! Miss you loads already
Love
Tracey
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ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
I'm reading the Gina Ford book at the mo too andhave put up the blackout blind as instructed!
Thought i hadn't gone ott buying baby clothes, but washed some today and theres loads, and still another load to do. Had to buy lots of different sizes though as they could be early or on time.
Shame they don't do twin bugaloos. We are off to the twin shop in Haywards Heath of Friday to get the most important bits.
Can't wait to cuddle my twins, but they can stay put for a few more weeks yet. Off to parentcraft class now.
luv, helen
Helen
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me 33, DP 35
ICSI cycle Nov 2003, tested positive.
TS - it was just like the old days only me and you on the boards! I'm hoping my two will keep quiet long enough for me to send this post! They've been very temperamental today!!!
We put them in the bath at 5pm and they had a little play around and seemed to enjoy it.....but then screamed the house down when it was time to get out! I can't win. Now they are asleep in their pjs in bed!!! Strictly following gina at night............!
Dh and I decided we couldn't both keep surviving on 3 hours a night (1.5hrs between 10pm and 2am and then another 1.5 hours between 2am and 6am), so we drew straws to see who had to do both night feeds and the other one could go and sleep in a different room (on a different floor!) Monday night I got to sleep but last night was my turn to do the night shift! Bugger me.........twin mummies, how on earth do you feed/wind two babies at exactly the same time???
Fortunately I practice yoga and so am used to forcing my body into strange positions.....at one point I had amelia propped up against a cushion feeding her by holding the bottle with my knee, whilst florence was bent over my knee being winded!!!
I don't want to scare all the twin mummies-to-be (TS & Helen & Co!) but its not easy, and I'm normally pretty good at multi-tasking!!!
Dh goes back to work next week after a month off and I'll be really lonely without him - not to mention doubly busy! How do you manage two babies and two dogs?? I ask you!
Well the first thing you do, is get a good reliable cleaner to come twice a week, so she can help with morning feeds on two days - and then clean the loos. Then you find a good reliable dog walker who takes care of the very demanding dogs......and if all else fails you hire good reliable (but extremely ugly!!!) nanny to help with the children!!!!
I should be ok.
Please create a support group for when I post and let you all know I'm cracking up and can't cope anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BUT I love my girls, and I love my life and I wouldn't change a single thing! So for everyone who is pg, ignore my panic waffle and for all those of you reading this who are still trying - keep at it, being a mum is bloomin' brilliant!!!!
Lots of love and hugs to you all
nikola.xxxxx
ps bloody hell this was a long one - should have divided it into three and added to my posts!!!!
Oh Nikola, your post made me laugh! Sorry, as my poor DH knows only too well, I don't 'do' sympathy! But your post sounds so manic; I'm exhausted just reading it.
I didn't really find the nights a problem (sorry) but I had the benefit of a daughter who slept through from 6 weeks. DH always did the first feed of the night for Daniel so that I got a decent stint of sleep before getting up to do Daniel's 2nd feed. He found that once we got into a routine, he would wake up just as Daniel's feed was due, feed him and then go straight back to sleep.
Because I was breastfeeding Charlotte and bottlefeeding Daniel, I found that I couldn't physically feed them together so I can't help on positioning. And I was very lucky to have two babies that didn't get windy so I never had to wind them. Blimey, reading this back they sound like such angelic babies - where did I go wrong?! Mind you, they did always scream when they came out of the bath.
I think you'll find that you get into a routine pretty quickly once DH goes back to work. My DH was ill immediately after Daniel and Charlotte arrived and I found that I coped much better when I was by myself permanently (when he went back to work) because I'd HAD to do it so early on. And it was easier to get Daniel and Charlotte into my routine than a shared routine.
I found that daily walking with the pushchair helped the weight just drop off so you will get back in your old clothes, honest! And I noticed that old Gwynnie was parading her Bugaboo in front of the press; you are such a trendsetter. Oh yes, and Daniel was a gorgeous redhead until he had his first haircut at the age of 1 but now he's a platinum blonde!
Take care of you and those girls.
Love Jules
P.S. Helen, you'll have to call in and get some practise with real twins when you come over to Haywards Heath!
TTC 5 years. Daniel & Charlotte born 22.03.02, 1st ICSI treatment. TTC for 4 further years. 2nd ICSI cycle abandoned, 3rd cycle BFN. Looking forward to being a happy family of 4.
Just reading it I need a sleep - Jules you sound like you had the angelic lot - can you pre-order???? Nik you will soon get in to a routine when DH goes back I am sure but I know how good you are at multi -tasking - yikes!!!!
Gabbie (the dog ) is exhauting me let alone anythign else! Will set up a support group!
Helen - have fun shopping - parencraft - have not been near those - have one day session for july 4th - mmmmmmmm need to cross my legs!
Love to all
Tracey
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ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
Just reading your post makes me tired but you sound as if you are taking everything in your stride.
In the sun newspaper yesterday there was a picture of Gwynnie (well her minder) putting the bugaboo up and it took them 20 minutes to get it up, they had to get the instructions out, she even sent out a waitress to help. Well i have copied you to like Tracey said and i have a red one and it is wonderful, everyone so far is impressed and i cannot wait for baby to arrive and show him off in his pram.
Don't worry about getting back into your old clothes just yet but as Jules said walking is the best way and of course breast feeding helps to, so my friends have told me anyway.
Dh has just had three cases of wine delivered he must be having a party and not told me.
I start my classes on the 14 june. Is your dh's going with you. We have to go into town for ours (and it is mostly couples) as my clinic only does it on a friday morning and it is mainly just women that go to it.
Helen
Age 27
I.V.F started in 2001. 1st cycle +ve mc nov 2001 at 12 weeks. Fet mar 2002 +ve then -ve.
2nd cycle +ve eptopic oct 2002 6 weeks.
fet mar 2003 -ve. 3rd cycle over stimulated embies frozen. Fet nov 2003 +ve due 11/8/04.
We too thought we would never survive the first 3 months...but trust me it can only get better. We took the option of alternate nights...so no matter how bad thenight you are on duty you always know the next night you will get some sleep...and we didn't have angelic sleeping babies!!
I never attempted feeding both at the same time, as soon as Ross woke he was always fed first, then wether she was awake or not Rebecca would then get her feed...she was always more patient. I also put one in the swing while the other was fed to distract them and that also helps. Mind you the yoga thing would help...or Rugby!! Well they call the double breastfeed the rugby hold.
Stick with the principles of Gina Ford though it does eventually work...and they do say girls are easier...so count your blessings!! We eventually really got in a semi normal routine..with sleep when they were about 3-4 months and they were 11 weeks early so it is possible...even thouhg that seems like a lifetime away. Mind you it don't half put you off having any more!!
And the routine of a walk in the buggy every day is the only thing to keep you sane...get them sleeping and lose weight...I lost 4 stone in a year and a bit...so ended up lighter than before pg (Bonus!!!).
And when you get really tired and stressed, pack them up and take them somewhere very public for a walk...nothing beats all those admiring glances and people saying how hard work it must be!!!
Keep the faith girl and sending you an understanding cyber hug
It was lovely to read your post (not sure when Nik will have time to!! ) and it seems still so unreal to me - I keep reading Gina but goes in one ear........... and then have to adapt it for two - will be writing down the main bits - sad I know but after what you lot say I don't trust myself to get my name right!!! I was thinking last week that you had yours at my stage - well I am 30 wks tomorrow so you had had them - gave myself quite a fright I can tell you.
4 stone in a year - I hope!
Love to all of you
Tracey
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ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
Dh has transferred my old office from the ground floor into the attic. so now, I get to come up here and escape whilst I log on to the computer! Its great. I wish I'd had my office up here all the time now.
Well both girls are asleep at the moment, but boy have we had fun this week!!!
Wednesday night was the worst night we've ever had with the girls - absolutely NO sleep at all! Dh put Amelia in the car and drove to Skipton (about 15 miles away) and back to calm her down......it worked, but once she got home and we tried to put her back into bed she started screaming again!!!
Yet, last night was probably our best night yet......which means things are likely to go downhill again tonight! We have tried different strategies of coping with the sleepless nights. First we tried both getting up, but this meant neither of us got any sleep, then we tried one sleeping in a different room and the other person feeding both girls at 2am and 6am, but this was really hard. So the last two nights we have allocated ourselves a daughter each! The first night I had florence, who is a dream, she eats well (and quickly!) and goes back down really easily.....whereas amelia, takes longer to drink and can't digest as quickly and then has to be winded for a long time afterwards and invariably cries when you try to put her back to bed! So the first night of this new regime, I looked after florence and dh had amelia and he had about 1.5hrs sleep. So last night I was dreading it......but we had the best night sleep yet! I had 7.5 hours sleep in total, albeit in 2.5hr segments. We both woke up this morning in a state of euphoria. Lets hope it continues.......
Nicky/Jules I love hearing from you two because it gives me hope that it will get easier! Nicky, I didn't realise you were v.prem too - more than me! How long did it take before they started catching up with other full term babies? The girls are still in v.small clothes, but fortunately amelia has stopped wearing 'dolls' clothes and can now fit in newborn (albeit a bit big!!)
Jules - if charlotte slept through - did you just stop waking her for a feed? I'm sure florence would sleep a lot longer, but we've been waking them both up to feed on time - every four hours. I think now she is drinking more, she might sleep longer - what do you think?
Helen - bugaboos are SOOO the way to go! I went to tesco the other day and the trolley boy who was about 16 (and therefore not the type to stop and talk babies!) stopped and asked me what kind of pram it was and said it was the coollest pram he had seen!! It really is. Did you get the maxi-cosi car seat too? The one thing I've noticed when you compare it to other prams is just how light it is. The girls sleep in the carrycot at night and so I carry the wheels upstairs (another part of trying to get amelia to sleep........don't ask!) and its just so light. It is a bit tricky to put together at first, but believe me, if I can work it out, anyone can........even GWYNNIE and her MINDERS!!!
Tracey S - I love you to bits. I love the way you even reply to all my posts - knowing exactly what I would say!!! I can't wait for your girls to arrive too and then you'll fully understand this whole mental crazy world we live in!!!!
Dh has just shouted up the stairs that the girls are 'stirring' this means they are about to scream the place down until I go and feed them!
So I'd better go.
I love you all lots and hope everyone is doing ok!
Bloody hell it sounds like you've got your hands full!!! They definately sound as if the girls are worth every sleepless night though!
Your doing well still finding time to post. i struggle and baby's not even here yet!!
How do I get to your web site to see your gorgeous girls? I'm feeling left out now that most of the others have seen them and I haven't!!
So how do you feel about being an icon to the stars with your Bugaboo?!!
We had our 20 week scan on Thursday and ordered the pushchair yesterday (a bit early I know but I've been looking at them for so long aand have changed my mind 3 times that I thought I should order it before i changed my mind again)!! We finally decided on the Mama's & Papas Freestyler - not anywhere near as cool as a Bugaboo or the Jane but as much as I love spending money I couldn't bear to part with £675 for the Jane Power Track and Carrycot etc!! I waas so tempted to buy everything in one go but have decided to pace myself so I can spend for longer!! I think spending £600 in 2 hours yesterday waas enough for DH so think I'd better go slowly and maake it less painful!!
Hope you get a dcent nights sleep tonight
Dawn
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Spending your Saturday evenings posting, it's not good is it?! (Says she who's probably had one Saturday night out in a year!)
It sounds like you're choosing the correct daughter to feed at night; I hope that Amelia continues to sleep well every other night! We had times when we got pretty close to taking Daniel for a drive to get him to sleep but ended up with me walking up and down singing to him for hours on end instead. In fact I remember doing a huge amount of singing in the early stages because it seemed to stop them crying (because I have such a fantastic voice obviously!).
Charlotte actually slept through the night from 6 days old but my Health Visitor said that I wasn't allowed to let her sleep through then because she wouldn't be getting enough milk. Apparently you're supposed to wait until they're 10lb before they can sleep through so I had to start waking her again. But when she started sleeping through again at 6 weeks, even though she wasn't 10lb I decided to leave her sleeping (bad mother that I am). I did demand feeding in the early days so (other than the few days that the HV told me to wake her) I never woke Charlotte for a feed anyway. If Florence is sleeping longer, then I'd be inclined to try leaving her to sleep.
Big hugs to Florence and Amelia.
Love Jules
TTC 5 years. Daniel & Charlotte born 22.03.02, 1st ICSI treatment. TTC for 4 further years. 2nd ICSI cycle abandoned, 3rd cycle BFN. Looking forward to being a happy family of 4.
Ohhhh no
having no sleep is just my worst thing, how will I ever survive!!!
My dh works shifts so I will be alone from approx 3 weeks during the night, luckily full night shift is only 7 days out of 35 days, the rest are back shift and early days.
Nikola - are you still breast feeding?? did you combine breast and formula straight away? Are they both sleeping (or not as the case may be) in your room? how well did you cope after your c-section to be properly up and mobile again.
Sorry - questions, questions. They are never ending on this site.
Apart from lack of sleep, it sounds fab and what we have all spent a lot of time waiting for.
Gosh you should write a book , its great reading your stories although it takes me ages as I am dislexic , Tracey S not long now and you can add your bit , you two could make a good pile of money with what goes on in your lives , I thought mine was full and crazy. wish I lived nearer I would love to help
Hang in there girl, not long to go till you start getting some sleep again...honest!!
Just reading your latest post brings it all back. My two started to catch up about one year old and now there is very little difference...though Ross is still tiny...still in 9-12 month clothes even though he is now two. Rebecca caught up the quickest...but then again I do think she is a bright little button...Ross just lets her do all the hard work (typical man!!)
I remember the struggle to get clothes that fitted...when I took Ross hom he only weighed 4lb7oz and I always laugh when I remember being stopped in the street and someone asked how old they were and I said they were prem. they then asked how old they should be and I had to answer they weren't due for another two weeks....bless!!!
Now they are two there really is no difference and they have passed all their development checks, so try not to worry, just enjoy the little time you get when they are quiet....before you know it they are crawling and then the fun really begins.
Get all the help you can and when people offer to give you some time to yourself grab it with both hands...I used to let my friend s take them out for half an hour in the buggy...most people can handle that and I used to just crash....do not do housework if you get a break use it to look after yourself.....not hoovering etc for a few days won't mean Aggie and Kim turn up on your doorstep...but you do need to get all the me time you can for you!!!
We used to get 30 inutes a day when the other would do everything to give ourselves a little treat (mine was a lovely soak in the bath) and Once they are in the routine you do start to feel human again.
Anyway you take care and it will start to get easier soon...and before you know it, you will be amazed you survived and you will really appreciate the joy of 8 hours uninterrupted sleep!!!