Embryo Quality?

doraglasses · Post by **doraglasses** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:10 pm

Hi, am a newbie here; read almost all the topics on the message board, and felt like I'm not the only one with so many questions and doubts (messages very encouraging).

Recently went thru my 3 rd IVF cycle (with ICSI): 8 eggs retrieved, 5 fertilized of which the embryo quality was not that great:
1-8 cell, grade 2.1
1-5 cell, grade 2.3
2-3 cell, grades 2.3/3.1
1-2 cell

Had the 8, 5 and 3 cells embryo transferred; frankly I've already lost all hope, but just wanted to find out if it were still possible for any of the embryo's to implant???? Have my pregnancy test on Sept. 16!!!!!!!

Good luck to all!

kbell · Post by **kbell** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:54 pm

Dora, I have learned that sometimes there is no rhyme or reason to what makes it to implantation and what doesn't. I have seen embryos that looked severly fragmented on day three result in twin pregnancy and embryos that belonged in a textbook they were so beautiful result in no pregnancy. So don't be discouraged. If your embryos are hearty they should keep dividing, segregating out the fragments during the blast/hatching process. Always have hope and prayer.

DebraP · Post by **DebraP** » Sun Sep 04, 2005 9:14 pm

Dora / Ms Glasses

hi and welcome. Please don't give up before you start, it will make for a horrendous 2ww. It's usually painfully slow at the best of times as it is.

My best advice is assume positive, fix a smile to your face - it's only 12 days, you can do it and join in the chat on the September 2ww thread. Everyone on there is waiting for their test day and will understand/support/cajole as needed.

best of luck
Debra.

dancola · Post by **dancola** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:34 am

Just to repeat what the others have said – it’s totally possible to get a +ve out of lesser-quality embryos. I myself always get textbook-perfect, grade 1, hatched blastos – you really cannot get better than that – yet I still haven’t managed to get pg after 3 cycles, yet some women have had 2-cell embies replaced and got a +ve result. Don’t give up yet.

KarenSmiff · Post by **KarenSmiff** » Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:30 pm

Hiya

Justed wanted to add

I got pregnant with only 1 x 2 cell embryo! although it sadly ended in m/c at 9 wks - but it still can happen.

Your embies sound superb to me

Kazx

CC · Post by CC » Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:14 pm

Oh my god - your embryos sound fab. You already have an 8 cell and 2 other really well developed embryos. Personally I would feel good about Grade 2 / 3 - there's something to be said for a little fragmentation - I believe it helps the embryos implant. My third ICSI resulted in 2 Grade 2/3 embies and I was devastated - my worse embies to date - my first two cycles had been really good top Grade 2 but no pregnancy. Then out of the blue - my poor little 'lower quality' embie resulted in pregnancy and I'm now 11 weeks pregnant. Have faith - your embies sound fantastic - be proud of them,
Cherylxx

Sand · Post by **Sand** » Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:45 pm

Hi Dora .. Just wanted to say Hi and good luck with your test on 16th ... Hope you are taking it easy and feeling positive ..

Sandra x

doraglasses · Post by **doraglasses** » Fri Sep 09, 2005 1:27 am

Sandra, thanks for you good wishes. My test is on Sept.12 (my bad, not sure why I mentioned Sept. 16. Trying to keep a PMA!

Cheryl, Kaz, Dancola, Debra and Katrina, I have been meaning to thank you for your explanations with my embryos. It has definitely put me to ease and has helped me keep a positive attitude!!
Luv.

cosci · Post by **cosci** » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:54 pm

Hi Dora, I was reading through the different threads and yours caught my eye. I too have had less than perfect quality embies. I am on my 3rd IVF/ICSI cycle, the first I had 2 4-cell embies grades 4 & 5 transferred which ended in a BFN. The 2nd cycle, I didn't get any fertilization out of my 7 eggs. This cycle I had 9 eggs, 7 mature, and 5 fertilized. They transferred 1 7-cell grade 3, and 2 5-cell grade 2. I have my test on 9/23.

Didn't you test yesterday? I'm praying you got wonderful news!

Jessica

doraglasses · Post by **doraglasses** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:19 am

Hey Jessica,

Till date I always remember Cheryl's words "Have faith - your embies sound fantastic - be proud of them". This was one of the most beautiful statements I came across on this board. I just feel bad I doubted my embies (which yesterday gave me a BFP!).

Shall be thinking about you on 9/23, wishing you loads and loads of luck!
Take Care,
Dora

Smita · Post by **Smita** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 4:25 am

Dora,
Excellent news!!
Have a wonderful 9 months!!

Jessica,
why don't you add yourself to the september test dates thread- we'll cheer you on..
Wishing you lots of luck for the 23rd..
baby dust!!

smita

cosci · Post by **cosci** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 5:52 pm

Dora...CONGRATULATIONS! Such Wonderful News! I am so happy for you. It is also gives me such hope for my embies too. Enjoy your pregnancy!

Smita, I'd love to be added to the thread...how do I get on?

I'm feeling pretty good, I think the progesterone has been making me tired though, and my ovaries are still recuperating from the EC. I'm trying not to read into anything with my body since I know progesterone mimics pregnancy symptoms. Today is my first day back at work, and it's great to be here and keeping my mind busy.

Jessica

Tracii · Post by **Tracii** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 6:49 pm

Congrats Pootle and Jessica on your eggs

Jessica - I will add you to the list...check out the thread Sept 05 Test Dates

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