September Hope's and Dream's

jackoa21 · Post by **jackoa21** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:48 pm

Jackie (nimble) dont even think twice about it.. We all post so often that sometimes I have to go back and see what I missed while I was posting..
Just so you all know I am not leaving as Aunty knows I am the stalker and you are all stuck with me. I am going away until next Tuesday though so I will be hoping and praying for all of you and doing all the follow up when I get back home..
love and hugs to all
jackie

Welshgirl38 · Post by **Welshgirl38** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 8:51 pm

Jackie Hun,

Have a brilliant time on ur hols, i am glad ur a stalker and not leaving us lol, we need miracle stories like urs to keep us going - still have lump in my throat for u - im so pleased

Becky Xxx

nimble · Post by **nimble** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:21 pm

Jackie - we would miss you if you left - we want to be kepted up to date with progress and post piccies on photobucket when you have a lovely big bump!

Meant to ask earlier - have you any dates yet?

Have a great time away - hopefully you'll come back to some more BFP's

Jackie xx

jeck · Post by **jeck** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 9:47 pm

Jackie, I am over the moon for you!!!!!!! Will keep you in my prayers because I know that the BFP doesn't stop the worrying!!!

zirly · Post by **zirly** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:06 pm

Ok ladies...here is the latest and please give me your HONEST opinions. I am three days post collection and I am waiting to do a five day transfer because we are doing pgd on the embies.

Their grading scale is from 0-4, 0 is the worst. 4 is the best.
They hope to find at least 7 cells by now.

1 was four celled and low low grade
1 was six celled and grade 3
1 was seven cell grade 2
3 were eight cell grade 3
3 were eight cell (grade 2 and grade 1)
2 were nine cell grade 3
1 was 11 cell grade 3

ALL had some fragmentation...some more than others. The embryologist said she feels we have six that look good. We have to wait til tomorrow evening to get the PGD results back.

I am feeling upset. Why are they ALL somewhat fragmented??? I am a 31 year old healthy female. She said this is common...but for all!?

What do you guys think? I just don't know what to make of all this?

zirly

AuntyPebbles · Post by **AuntyPebbles** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:40 pm

Ok Zirly you asked for honest.... i love love love the fact you have some fraggies thats not a bad thing i had 3 grade 1 and 1 grade 2 (my clinic grades 1-4 1 best 4 worst)3 8 cell with no fragmentation 1 6 cell had a little bit i have the piccie of them they look perfect...and i got nothing
my friend had 3 embies (same clinic) 2 4 cell of hers were grade 3 and 1 2 cell was 3.5 all with lots of fragmentation and she got twins.... every time i hear of someone writes i had low grade embies with lots of fragmentation they end up with BFP

i will be amazed if you dont find she says the fraggies pass the pdg with flying colours ...your little ones are doing so well im cheering them on...praying really hard for you you get great results tomorrow.

lots of love Debz

Vickie · Post by **Vickie** » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:48 pm

Jackie CONGRATULATIONS - that is amazing - i'm so pleased to hear ur BFP! - Onward to motherhood!

Zirly - to me ur embies sound fine - PMA, like Aunty said even some of the embies least expected to make it turn out to be beautiful bouncing babies! - Let us know when u hear 2moro!

Good night every1 - loads of sticky baby dust
Vickie x x x

AuntyPebbles · Post by **AuntyPebbles** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:16 am

Macca Sadley BFN

Jackie Beta 561...

Our little Miracle A Natural BFP

JackieG........8th September Test Date..

Little ones snuggling in

Mia........8th September Test Date..

2 Little ones snuggling in

Vickie ... 14th September Test Date..

2 Little ones snuggling in

Becky........15th September Test Date..

2 Little ones snuggling in

Emma ... 15th September Test Date ..

2 Little ones Snuggling in

Zirly ... 18th September Test Date ..

12 Embies in Waiting

(ET 7th)(PDG results 6th)
Karen ... 2nd September ..

4 Beautiful Eggs

Paula ... 4th September ..

12 Embies in waiting

Angela ....... September

26 follies so far

(4th Scan)
Nimble ....... September ...

Stimming

(6th scan)
Holly.........September ..Doing IUI

(4th Start Gonal )
Souris ....... September .......

Stimming

(6th Scan )
Haylie ....... September ........Down Regging

(8th Scan ..start Menopur)
IslaCraig .......September ........Down Regging

(13th Blood test pos start Gonal F)
Kvgsmom.........September ..Nasal spray

FET 18th
Lauralou ...... 1st September ................Lupron

Suzette ..... September .......Nasal Spray

Jemima.........September .....................BC

Michelle ..... September .......Nasal Spray

Emma27 .......September.............Down Regging

Eileen ....... September .............Down Regging

Jeck .........11th september ............Start Down Regging

Aunty .........7th September ..... ..Cycle Meeting

Saxony............September.................................... FET

Mary .......10th? September .............Start Down Reg

Lisa(bella) .........??th September ........... Possible Start

Casy .........29th September ........... Possible Start

AMD............ ........................AF arrived

..FET October

Niffie .........Start date tbp

Bobbi..........Start date tbp

KF06.........15th August cycle cancelled due to cyst

moved to October

jemima · Post by **jemima** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:17 am

Jackie!!!! I can't believe it! OMG i am so hap0py for u. I am vcery happy. i m going to cry. oh honey, take care ur self. it is very amazing. ur miracle came. i remember firstime we know each other. i told i knew 2 people pcos got pregnant naturally. now , u added my list. how did yu find out?

im so sorry. i feel i want to scream. im so sorry.

luv, jemma

AuntyPebbles · Post by **AuntyPebbles** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:21 am

For Wednesday......
Zirly wishing you great news today with your PDG tests...special prayer tonight that you get plenty of healthy embies...

Angela i hope everything is going according to plan and your follies are doing nicley

Nimble best of luck with your scan today we will be thinking of you

Souris good luck today with your scan lets see them follies growing really looking forward to hearing your news...

to everyone else hope you taking care of your bumps in waiting...down reggings going well... all the ladys stimming wishing you many healthy follies and all those in waiting we will be there soon...

love and hugs Debz

jemima · Post by **jemima** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:26 am

jackie... please don't go. but if DR told u to stay away from computer. it's okay. it's the best. i undrestand. just don't forget to think n pray for us. honey i have to go. sorry im planning to read all posting. but im in rental n i can't hold my tears. everybody is looking for me now.

bye...

jemima · Post by **jemima** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:30 am

debz!!! we are posting the same time. isn't it amazing what happened to Jackie? Oh honey ive been praying hard that u get ur miracle too... Good night. Have a nice sleep n dream.. luv u

Luv n Hug,
JEmma

AuntyPebbles · Post by **AuntyPebbles** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 2:52 am

Hey jemima hunny i have been thinking about you ... i know you dont get long to be on ..we miss you..

oh boy yeah its a blessing and it couldnt have happend to a nicer woman she has been my rock for so many months now im so happy for her and her hubby ...

thank you for thinking of me... i hope we can all finaly get our dream ..

nighty night and sweet dreams to you...lots of love Debz

islacraig · Post by **islacraig** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:23 am

CONGRATULATIONS JACKIE ON YOUR BFP...SO HAPPY FOR YOU ......
......I hope this is the first of many for the board

the clinic has just called and my E2 is <150 so start Gonal F this evening...YAY

Ange

31single · Post by **31single** » Wed Sep 06, 2006 3:42 am

Zirly, here are some facts/stats as I know them

1. fragmented embryos may not have the same chance at implanting as non-fragmented, but if they produce babies just as perfect as any other embryo

2. According to 2002 ART from the CDC, woman under 35 who had enough embryos to implant with additional ones to freeze (and with 6, you probably fall into that camp) had the following live-birth rates:

Transfer 1: 47%!!!!!!!!!!
Transfer 2: 51%
Transfert 3 or more: live birth was less than 51%

Also, PGD ups the numbers because you know you avoid transferring many chromosomally abnormal embryos which wouldn't have implanted. I will also be doing PGD. I've been looking for stats, but it's still really rare to find large scale studies. One study I saw said that woman under 35 with normal fsh who had ivf+pgd and implant 2 embryos had a baby-take-home rate topping 70% from one cycle. Seems massively too good to be true ...

Anyway, I know these stats don't specifically address the fragmentation issue ... but hopefully it will make you feel good. Let us know what the PGD report looks like!

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