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FionaA
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Post by FionaA »

OK its the end of another day in the sweatshop. Just a flying visit, will try to get all personals done but no doubt my car pooling buddy will be champing at the bit to leave shortly.

Coco, you will not be a spinster, that would be like trying to be a virgin again. As you have married you can never go back to being a spinster, you will now be a divorcee (pronounced DIV-OR-SAAAY - in hushed and scandalised tones) As I'm sure you are aware a divorcee is much more glam and exciting than a spinster.

Sounds like you have a great insurance policy with the ferts. My money's on the criminal mastermind being the pick of the litter. Also glamorous.

I'm seeing an analogy between you and the hungry birds. Don't worry not long now until there are lots of fat worms for you to feast on. OK that sounded gross.

Wanna, punch the sharks in the nose, they have sensitive noses, or so I'm told...

Mel, how did the appt go??? I'm on the edge of my seat here...

Jenn, excellent news on biting the bullet. A May start is so much more exciting for all of us. Let the good times roll...

Vicky, congrats on the test results. I haven't had those patches they sound gross, but what isn't gross about this process? I assume Noggin is OK. I'm really paranoid about something going wrong. I don't know how I'm going to cope at my first tri scan in a couple of weeks...As far as MIL goes, we get test results on 16 April (which is DH's and my second wedding anniversary.) I am hoping with everything I've got that she's OK)

Patie, Underworld Vicky is getting snotty with you....I think you'd better come baaack NOW!!!

Sass, loved your post, made me hate that girl so much. I really hate her....don't worry about manners, they are overrated....let us know how you go...

OK car pooling mate is harranging me. All other ladies, HELLOO and where are you???

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OK its the end of another day in the sweatshop. Just a flying visit, will try to get all personals done but no doubt my car pooling buddy will be champing at the bit to leave shortly.

Coco, you will not be a spinster, that would be like trying to be a virgin again. As you have married you can never go back to being a spinster, you will now be a divorcee (pronounced DIV-OR-SAAAY - in hushed and scandalised tones) As I'm sure you are aware a divorcee is much more glam and exciting than a spinster.

Sounds like you have a great insurance policy with the ferts. My money's on the criminal mastermind being the pick of the litter. Also glamorous.

I'm seeing an analogy between you and the hungry birds. Don't worry not long now until there are lots of fat worms for you to feast on. OK that sounded gross.

Wanna, punch the sharks in the nose, they have sensitive noses, or so I'm told...

Mel, how did the appt go??? I'm on the edge of my seat here...

Jenn, excellent news on biting the bullet. A May start is so much more exciting for all of us. Let the good times roll...

Vicky, congrats on the test results. I haven't had those patches they sound gross, but what isn't gross about this process? I assume Noggin is OK. I'm really paranoid about something going wrong. I don't know how I'm going to cope at my first tri scan in a couple of weeks...As far as MIL goes, we get test results on 16 April (which is DH's and my second wedding anniversary.) I am hoping with everything I've got that she's OK)

Patie, Underworld Vicky is getting snotty with you....I think you'd better come baaack NOW!!!

Sass, loved your post, made me hate that girl so much. I really hate her....don't worry about manners, they are overrated....let us know how you go...

OK car pooling mate is harranging me. All other ladies, HELLOO and where are you???

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Morning Ladies! Well it’s morning here. But I am by no means bright eyed and bushy tailed. I want so much to crawl back under the covers. YAWN YAWN YAWN!!!

Fee—How far along are you now? Glad to hear that Noggin is ok. Or so you think. But I’m sure he is. When is your next scan? I’m sure MIL tests results coming on your wedding anniversary is a good sign. I pray that everything works out for her and that little Noggin is nestling in nicely.

Sassy—I remember you talking about that dreadful fert. I think dessert is just enough. If it gets to be too much you could always have the attorney general call you and interrupt dessert. Tell your “friend” you are close friends with the attorney general and you have an urgent matter to discuss. The vacations sound so cool. I wish I were going somewhere. Seems all vacation plans are on hold as of right now. That’s going to be rough on me considering I am use to traveling at least 3 times a year. Oh well, guess you have to do what you have to do. Other priorities now. I’ll just have to live vicariously thru you, Aunty Sassy. Make sure to take lots of pictures and send them to me. Then I can photo shop DH and my faces over yours and pretend it was us on the vacations. :lol:

Coco—I was a spinster once. I was married in Jamaica and on my wedding certificate it says my name and then spinster underneath it. Family and friends had a ball with that one. :oops: I absolutely hated it. And there it is for all to see for the rest of my life on my marriage certificate. Fee is right, once you are married no longer are you a spinster. Divorcee sounds much classier. :wink:

Angie—How are you doing? I've been thinking about you. Come back and visit us when you get a chance.

Meg—How is the little one? How is the second trimester? I can’t wait to get there.

Mel—I’m as so tired right along with you. Ignore that Vietnamese lady. There is no such thing as ugly anything when it comes to the Sisterhood. I’m sure your little toe is not ugly. It’s probably just unique. :wink: Good Luck with the appointment today. Let us know all about it.

Jenn—WoooHooo!! Jumping back on the band wagon! Might as well. there’s nothing like getting stuck in the butt by DH. Better sooner than later. :wink:

Vicky—Sorry to hear about your black sticky skin. I hate that. Never had to deal with the estrogen patches but I have been known to leave a Band-Aid on way to long. :oops: Keep trying the alcohol and lots of soap and water. Also try to scratch it off with your nail. This may turn your skin red though. How’s Sanson?

Patie—Where are you?

Am I missing anyone? my short term memory sucks right now. :oops:

As far as me, went home this weekend to tell my immediate family about the news. Everyone is so excited. I purchased Easter cards for my dad, stepmother and sisters. The one for my dad said grandpa, my stepmother’s said grandma, and my sisters said aunt. I taped a picture of the ultrasound into each card and that’s how they found out. Everyone had a great reaction, well except for my step mother. All she said was, Congratulations. That was it! Not, how far along are you? How are you feeling? Nothing!! Now if it were anyone else she would have been thrilled and had a million questions. Before I told her, my dad said wow, your step mother is probably going to say to herself when she finds out….damn, now me and the girls (my sisters) really aren’t going to get anything (when my dad passes). My dad called it right. You could tell by the look on her face that she was thinking that. My stepmother is already jealous of the relationship I have with my father. He spoils me. I’m his oldest and we are really close. Now he’s going to spoil his grand kids. Which she believes is going to leave her and my sisters with less. Her maybe, but my dad wouldn’t deny his children (my sisters) anything. He and my step mother are going through a divorce and she is trying to take him for everything. My sister, (her daughter) cried and screamed when she found out. It was her 16th birthday on Saturday when I told her. She yelled out this is the best birthday present ever. I’m not sure how that made my stepmother feel considering she had just paid a bunch of money for a sweet 16 party. lol But the reaction of my sister overshadowed my stepmother’s snarly response. I was not happy about the way my stepmom reacted, especially seeing the way she reacted to other people’s pregnancy. I mean, I am her step-daughter. These kids will be her grandchildren. But oh well, I can’t let her steal my joy. She’ll get over it. My dad ran out and purchased balloons and cards for DH and I. He is so excited. He was up all night calling everyone and telling them. He even came up with a name for himself…GP (short for grand pa). lol

Yesterday went to see regular OBGYN for the first time. Had another u/s. Babies are doing fine. One is ahead of schedule as far as growth and the other is right on schedule. They are starting to looking like babies now. Although you can only see a head and butt. They were moving all over the place. My doctor said, well that’s why you are so nausous…look at how active they are. lol It was really funny to see them flopping and rolling all over the place. The funny thing is they don’t even have arms and legs yet, so I don’t know how they were moving so much. There little heads and butts were all over the place. lol Well I finally broke down and took the Zofran last night. I was really trying hard not to give these little ones any medication but I couldn’t take it anymore. DH made a wonderful dinner last night. I took two bites of it and up it came. :oops: I should have just thrown it in the toilet and bypassed the middle man….me. After that I went to lay down and it felt like the room was spinning. At that point, I said screw it…pass me the meds! I felt better instantly. I don’t know why I was torturing myself all this time. But now Zofran will be with me every step of the way. It’s my new best friend. :wink:

Okay, sharks are starting to show up. Guess I’ll pretend to do some work. Chat with you ladies later.

P.S. This site was really slow this morning. It took forever to post this. Probably all the stupid ads using all the bandwidth. :cry:
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Okay so we had our appointment, and DH was so sweet the whole time. (although last night I thought we were going to have the BIG ONE – that fight we haven’t had in months… but I know I am PMS’ing and on edge and avoided it)

The doctor was super sweet, and her nurse was a 75 year old grandmother that I just wanted to take home with me. DH felt the same way, he said can I have her! It was cute. So the Resident Dr. we talked to first and she was younger than us, and super nice. When she asked DH if he had any mental illnesses, he said Yes and pointed to me, he’s such a dork!

So in comes Dr. Rhoten… after she reviewed ALLLLLLLLLLL of our medical history, and says Well it looks like we have a challenge on our hands – nice to hear from the Doc, huh!

She said it looks as if I am ovulating and dropping viable eggs, but there is no way to tell for sure, so they are going to do the 21 day cycle blood test –I am surprised they haven’t done that before, so is DH. She also did a PAP, fun times, like I haven’t done a bazillion of those- but this is the first time DH was in the room, he was like, really that’s alllllll! They went over his fishes, and explained that even though some Doctors will tell you these are Motility issues, it doesn’t look quite that way, it’s more of a shape thing, where his numbers are a bit lower than they’d like to see but 48% of them as not a normal shape… or something like that – so I guess the first RE misdiagnosed, or they can’t tell their ass from their elbow.

So we talked about IUI with Clomid - again and the cost, and the BFP percentage which is only 12% in people our age. And then she talked about IVF, and DH and I agree that we should do IVF this time – and see. We went to Starbucks after the visit – and talked about what we were just told, and honestly none of it’s new, we knew all of this – I was just hoping for some sort of miracle I think – like “Oh you have 37 issues working against you, but we have this new 37 problems pill- take this and all will be fine”

So IVF it is! But when is another story – all of our assets are in his business, we don’t want to put it on credit – our insurance doesn’t cover it. So it’s not going to be for a while – like a year or so. Although we know that time isn’t on our side with the cancer and what nots. So we are going to take ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL the paperwork, I’ll do the blood work – DH will do his blood work up and we’ll pray about this and do some fund-raising and see what we can come up with in the near future.

So now we have some esplaining to do – allllllll of the family is going to want to know – I wish I had better or rather easier to explain news for them. They can understand Cancer, they can understand Toxic Mucus… but will let understand this????

Okay, so that’s it….

(I’ll get to the personals later today)

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Okay so the boards seem fast now, let me try to get the personals taken care of while I am on lunch...

Wanna - I'll sick you on the Vietnamese lady! I thought it was really funny afterwards, but I was still sort of offended... she didn't mean anything by it, but still "You toe ugly" will stick with me forever! Now your family - I have been waiting to hear how that went all weekend, and I cried when I read it, that was the best EVER!!! I am so happy for you and your family!!! What a beautiful story!!! (Gosh your Step Mother is just selfish huh?) Oh well, whatcha gonna do? But still your sister's reaction your father's was all so precious!! I love that he went out and bought you some balloons, and a card, that was so sweet!!!

Fee- I am glad to hear that it seems all is well with Noggin!! I am keeping you and him/her in my prayers!!! I think the test coinisiding with your wedding aniversary is WAY cool! I am sure that's a great sign!

Sassy - I loath your friend! I hate, hate, hate people like that!!! I hate people that empathize with you or pretend to empathize with you, but really have no idea! I had a friend that had a bad pap, and she said, OH I KNOW what you are going through with your cancer.. oh okay! So I think just dessert, is a great thing!!!

Meg- I hope you are doing well!!! I cannot believe how far along you are, I am sure it feels like it'll never end for you, but anyway - it's pretty incredible for you!!! And for us to go through this with you!

Angie - I hope you come back when you can, know we are thinking about you!!!

Vicky - Those progesterone patches are the worst, I had a friend of mine have an allergic reaction to the material of the patch and the patch area was all red and icky - she used Goo-Gone and it got rid of the sticky stuff. Try that.... I am so glad your scans are going well!!! I love hearing your progress!!!

Okay I think I got is all... if I missed something, I'm sorry!

Love to you all!

Mel
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Hello all!

Melissa~ Well it sounds like your appt went pretty well. Even though they told you some things were wrong, at least you know. I'm glad to hear you like them too. That makes such a big difference. I don't like my fert doc at all, and I know that can't be a good thing. But there is not a whole lot to pick from here in St. Louis and he is supposedly the best so that's why we went to him.
My insurance also doesn't cover IVF. I know exactly what your saying about that. People keep asking us when we are going to do it again and we keep thinking as soon as we pay off the first one! It sucks.
How's that toe?

Coco~ I read your post. I'm sorry to hear that things didn't work out, but like everyone else, I'm glad to hear you are both secure with your decision. I always look at those people that fight so bad when they get divorced. I feel so sorry for them because usually things end up going to court forever and most the time they end up bankrupt because they fight for so long about money and everything else. So I'm glad to hear it won't be like that for you. I wish you lots of luck and will be praying for you.

Sassy~ I remember you talking about that girl before. Don't you just LOVE people like that. I have a few of those in my life too (and I'm sure everyone else does too). We have this neighbor (that is also a good friend) that has been married for 12 years and has like 1 or 2 AF's a year. I told her she needed to go to her OB and get on Clomid and she would probably get pregnant pretty quick. Well about a year and a half ago she went, took Clomid, and on the second month she was pregnant. God.. don't we all wish it could be that easy! So since she was married for 12 years she considered herself "trying" for 12 years and of course "understands" all that I've been through! And on top of it the ENTIRE pregnancy all we heard about was baby, baby, baby. We would be at party's or happy hours and if the conversation wasn't about the baby, she would change it so it was. She would have happy hour's at her house so "we could all get together" and we would be fored to read these weekly letters she wrote to her unborn baby. It was ridiculous! It's amazing how people can be so insensitive!
Sorry..I got on a little rant there! It worked out pretty nice though that you got out of dinner. At least you won't have to listen to her long!

Wanna~ I'm sorry about your stepmom. What a b***h! I have a stepmom but luckily she's not like that. I've heard some horror stories and I'm always thankful I don't have any to tell! I'm glad everyone else is so excited though. I like the way you made the "announcement". That was a cute idea!

Vicky~ I'm glad to hear your scan went well. Good luck with those patches. I've never done them but they sound like a mess!

Fee~ I'm sorry, I think I'm confused. Is it a US you'll be going in for?

Jenn~ I'm glad to hear you're back at it!
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Hello Ladies..... I am back and I miss you all so so so so sososososo much.... i dont know how i made it without chating to u! but i just didnt have an private internet connection and sure wont use my neice's laptop to go to the site...

Anyway i am back and i read all your posts ....wow! so many things happened...

First Coco... like all other ladies i was shocked to read your post! but i sure admire your positive attitude and how u r dealing with it! however its us ... so if u need to rant vent spill or whatever.... we are here for you babe! so its ok not to be too ok with the whole thing! we love u and will support u!

Wanna....how are u momy :)... sorry ur still nauseaus...(did i spell it right?) and sorry about ur stepmom... but i like ur dad he seemed to be a great guy! Happy Sweet 16 for ur sis... i hope ur not doing her a party like the one they do on the show on MTV.... i like how u described juniors with the heads and the butts... hugs to u!

Sass... sorry DH changed his mind and for giving u some hope! but its great that things are ok now between u and he's just like my DH...both options are a BIG NONO....
I am glad ur taking a week off... its well earned...and enjoy it as much as u can... btw why not coming to Dubai the weather is still ok especially on the beach!!! what do u think??? it sounds like you have lots of trips to do.... wohooo! i am excited for u!
How was dessert with the friend???

Vicky... i am back!!! missed ya! how's Sanson doing??? and how's the new condo? did u sort it out regarding the No pets allowed!
Btw i did the patches and u can remove it with oil and scrub it!

Amy...sorry for your loss! i know its not easy! but it was peacefull! may he rest in peace...hugs babe! and how's everything else with you?

Mel...ouch for toey...again! how dare she? glad u r going for IVF...i think u'd have better chances then the other options... i hope u will be able to find enough fundings to start soon! btw why not join Amy's ebay sale...:)
btw what is Toxic Mucus?

HRH Fee... i like ur wife swap suggestion! but i am sure ur a doll... and that boss of u... he should know better then asking u to work :(

Angie... i am so sorry! how are you feeling? hope all is better!

Jenn...about the extra room...well i am living in a 3 bedroom villa...for the past 3 years...just in case! Good luck with the preparation for cycling!

Mego...missed ya! how are you??? how is junior??

Well that was the personals... i will post later about my trip cos my boss is here.. tons of hugs and kisses to alll...great to be back!
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Hellooo from down here...

Patie, great to hear from you, really looking forward to hearing about your trip. Don't blame you for not wanting to share computers, I'd die if anyone I know read half the stuff I write on here...Hurry up and give us the goss on your holiday....

Sass.. have you been arrested for assault occasioning bodily harm??? I'm figuring it's a possibility if the dessert date was last night....do tell..

Wanna excellent story on telling the family, I think your step mum should be punter of the month...has she always been like that or is it the divorce that has turned her into a b$tch??? Oh well your dad sounds like a real winner at least you have that right?? Congrats on your US, I'm a bit jealous that you seem to get more frequent monitoring than me. I've only had one damned scan with my next on 23/04. talk about stingy.

Mel, glad to hear your appt went well. Sounds like you guys didn't exactly learn anything new but you have a direction now...Sorry to hear that you will have to launch into some fund raising. IVF in the US must be damned expensive, that sucks a$$. Do you think your family will have issues with IVF? I know some people do but it seems to be almost generally well accepted these days??? thanks for praying for Noggin, that will help I'm sure.

Hey Nickster, yeah I'm going in for an US on 23/04, that's the one that tells you your chances of Downs....so you are from St Louis huh?? When DH and I were on our honeymoon two years ago, we went to the US, landed in New York, jumped straight in a hire car and drove all the way to St Louis with no sleep....I have strange memories of St Louis because I was so delerious with tiredness. I do recall that a homeless man gave me a new purse. His name was Dave and he was quite knowledgeable about Australian reptiles...

OK got to go, have to round off my working day with some....work.

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Fee~
Ha! What a GREAT memory of St. Louis! I guess it doesn't say much for us, does it?? Well, I guess at least we have knowledgeable homeless men that aren't stingy!!!
All the way from New York to St. Louis, I would be delirious too! That's a long a** way!
Good luck with your scan. It's going to be fine, and like everyone else I'll be prayin' for ya.
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Hey girls!

Mel: btw.... LOVE the "you toe ugly" quote. I think we need to find a place for it in the Reproducers! Everytime you write that i giggle. Glad to hear the consult went well... at least you now have a plan... which i know for me is the hardest part.

Patie: glad to see you back! What happened with the wedding dress?

Fee: VERY stingy down under on US, I see... that sucks. We want more noggin info. Hey, where'd that AG go???

Coco: thanks for your comment on my blog... and yes, i think the same concepts will work for you :wink:

Nickster: Hmmmm. She had been "trying" for 12 yrs, huh? My arse. Liked the little ranting action you got goin' on there!

Wanna: ooooo, stepmother has NO idea who she is messing with, does she? :evil: Definite punter award winner. At least your dad sees her for what she is. Who gives a d*mn what she thinks anyway? I loved hearing how your dad and sister reacted. How exciting!!!

So... had dessert with said "friend" and her dh last night. and it went... really well! She didn't ask about IF or treatments the entire time (still not sure if dh put the kibosh on it, or she just learned her lesson when i bit her head off over the phone :roll: ). I was kind of faking my way through it, but i have to admit, i did a pretty swell job (if i do say so myself :wink: ). I didn't ask at all about her children. Does that make me bad? I'm thinking not. Weak maybe... self-protective maybe, but not bad. Just didn't want to go anywhere in the "children" vicinity.

So here is my problem. This may sound terrible... but who else i am going to vent to??? My counselor was telling me yesterday she thinks i am grieving a loss... the loss of never having a child. I whole-heartedly agree. I cried all yesterday afternoon before seeing her. It is just clear that two more cycles with our own stuff probably will give us the same results the first four have given us..... squat. So why put myself through two more when we won't be using donors, and there is no adoption "light at the end of the tunnel"? Why not spare myself the grief, discomfort and heartache of the last 2 cycles, and call it quits now?

Anyway, woke up this am kind of angry at dh about all this. dont' know if it is part of the grieving, or just me being petty. I am angry that he brought up the adoption/ds thing, allowed me to get all excited, and then pulled the rug out from underneath me in such a cruel way... by lashing out at me. I went on a massive therapeutic shopping spree (what's a girl to do... it was one of those days that everything just fit :wink: ). Girls, i am talking massive. I think i was rebelling. I have had my little nest egg of money that i have been saving so that when i stay home w/kids i still have my own spending money. But why bother? It doesn't appear i will need to have that money saved.

I am angry b/c it appears that due to what i see as his arrogant viewpoints (that he doesn't want a child that doesn't have his DNA), i will most likely never have the chance to rock my child to sleep, plan my daughter's wedding, or have grandchildren. I don't like that i feel this way, and i have already decided that no matter what.... i will not go through my life resenting him for this. We will have a great life together no matter what. Just not sure what to do with this anger i have right now. :evil: Maybe i need to call my counselor back :roll:
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Hey All

Nickster, I really want to get back to St Louis some day, preferably a bit more awake! I should point out that the drive was after 35 hours of air travel during which time not much sleep was had....But yes, your homeless are second to none!

Sass, glad to hear that your mate was smart enough not to mess with you. Who needs the grief right? As far as your feelings about donor or adoption go, I'm getting the impression that you don't feel entitled to be angry. In your position I would be feeling bloody angry. You are most definately NOT being petty. Your point of view is every bit as valid as your DH's and I hope he knows how you feel about the situation because you are making an enormous sacrifice here and it is only right that he is aware of the impact of his decision on you. In your position I would REALLY struggle with resentment....what a difficult situation to be in....wish I had some answers for you....

Shopping is a great start though....

Angie, if you are lurking, If i'm not mistaken today is your appt with RE. Hope you get the answers that you need and work out the way forward from here.

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Fee: thanks. I guess I needed a little "sister" validation. I want to think that I am a strong person... bigger than the anger and resentment. but i'm also thinking that i have to confront it if there is any chance to work through it.

Angie: Is that true? RE appt? Sending you *hugs* and hoping you are doing all right.
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Fee~ OMG! A homeless guy could have STOLEN my purse without me knowing it after 35 hours of travel. I don't know how you were awake at all! What made you come here after all that? Do you have family or friends here?

Sassy~ I'm glad to hear you're dessert went ok. I don't think there's anything wrong with not asking about her kids. Escpecially with someone like that. She sounds a lot like the one I went on the major rant about, and if she is, you'll hear the answer to your questions plus MUCH more! I think that is a self-protective thing we're ENTITLED to. You, especially right now, don't need to be hearing about that! They should understand, and if they don't....too d**n bad!! That's my thought anyway!
I am so sorry to hear about your frustration with dh. Like Fee said though, you really do have a right to be angry. You've been through so much and it's understandable for you not to want to do this anymore. Hell, I've only done it once, and I am already thinking..do I want to do this again? You have every right to feel that way. As far as dh, is there some way we could pound it into his "hard" head?
Hopefully he will come around, and hopefully it will be soon!
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Post by Melissa112 »

Well girls, I was going to take a bit and wait and post when my thoughts were together, but it's almost 10PM and DH is still working, and I tried quiliting and I spoke to my MIL who was almost too understanding... :shock: and all I could think about was you ladies (and this raging head ache I have) - I'll get into why in a bit... first...

Sassy!!! HOLY COW! You have every right, and I mean every right in your body to feel angry - and your couselor is definately on the spot, you are grieving, and I understand that, and there is a process to that. You need to be angry at your DH, (not for long though.. because that would be unhealthy) but take some time to be mad, take some time to cry- and maybe take some time to talk to the couselor with DH.... I know it's hard but maybe you and DH need to talk about the adoption debauctle soon...and also that it feels as if you might need to give up the hopes of being natural parents and that's hard (edited to add - that I didn't mean that to sound as calous as it came across, I am sorry!!!) - (actually DH and I are sort of doing that now ourselves....more on that later in the program) But honestly, there is a process to this stupid rollercoaster, and I hope you know we are all here for you babe!!! Oh, so what did you buy?? Oh, and your friend dinner sounds like you get and A+!!! Great job! I wouldn't have asked about the kids either... kudo's to you! 8)

Fee- I love your St. Louis story!! That was freakin' hysterical! Oh and yes, IVF with this RE costs about $20K, and like I said before insurance doesn't cover one single solitary cent... so I need some relative to die that loved me very much - ORRRRRRRRRR a massive E-bay sale, which I starting - but's it's gonna be like $10 here and $10 there... so I'll be 187 when we do the IVF! :shock:

Angie - SOOOOOOOOOOOO how was the RE appointment??? Update, puh-lease!!!!

Patie- Welcome back!!! I wouldn't have shared internet connection either - especially for this site, we sure talk about some private things... totally understandable - you are excused :) I've been meaning to ask- what happened with the wedding dress?

Vicki - WHat's going on with the condo? And how's my boyfriend Sanson doing? Okay you asked... my regular ole' discharge is toxic, I guess the Ph is SO high that it kills the fishes... I mean literally poof - the funeral procession begins... so when my husband's crazy sperm start swimming they blow up in a puff of smoke, and don't make it up the tunnel (poor little guys) :cry:

Okay so last night DH went over to a friends house (our closest friends actually) and they've done 4 IVF's and on the final IVF they had a son - Harrison, he's 2 now. I went with her to 2 EC and 3 transfers. So I sort of lived it with her, the highs the lows, the miscarriage... and DH felt the need to talk to them about our RE appointment and they expressed their suprise and frustration for us. And also alot of empathy, because they've been there and done that. So when DH came home we talked for a while, but mostly at this point for us it comes done to money... $20K is ALOT of money... I mean we could take a loan, but I don't know that I want to start our child's life (or potential life in debt) so basically DH said that whatever I wanted to do, he would find a way for us to do it. (but again it's a when thing)
***Warning Spirtual Junk ahead***
What DH doesn't know and what I have only eluded to you all is that, I have been praying for us to have a child for 15 years... and last year I starting praying for God's will to be done in our life. After giving up being mad a God for Lent - and I have that sense of peace that I had told you about... I think I am okay not being a mom. (wow I just said that out loud!) BUt honeslty, and seriously... I think that if it's just John (that's DH) and I forever, I don't THINK I'll feel like I am missing out on something in my life. I really don't think I will. Although I feel like I should feel like I would. Maybe that's just the grief that Sassy was talking about, I don't know. Maybe because for SO freakin' long I wanted this, it's going to take a while to turn around. I don't know how to tell DH - that is what hurts more than anything... I think I am going to continue to pray about it, and see how I feel in a couple of weeks, then talk to John.
***Spiritual junk over***

WOW! I have a spilting headache!!! I took some Iron and some advil and its still pounding!

Well, I love you guys.... I am sure I'll come full circle.

(I actually am considering Egg Donation...)
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Post by Angie65 »

Hi ladies - you are all so cool - I really wish s/times we could all hang out together - have a coffee/beer or soft drink for the preggos amongst us. I am not spending enough time with preggos and people with kids - I am the anti-fert at the moment and this attitude worries me. If Meggo, Wanna and Fee were here it would be different though - you wouldn't annoy me so much because you know what it is like.

Sassy - so glad you are having a SWDGPT - enjoy every minute of it.

So touched you all remembered about my appmt with Dr D. We are going ahead with another FET cycle as we have 6 in waiting. As expected he had no answers and suggested we just press on with the transfers. And as Chinese acupuncture lady helpfully reminded me that "time pwecious" (almost as blunt as Mel's vietnamese ugly toe lady ) - I guess we have no option but to carry on. Did consider a break but we all know that it's impossible to have a complete break - this process is never far from my mind like I'm sure with everyone.

So off we will go again after next AF whenever that will be - 2, 3, 4, 5 weeks or whenever she decides to show.

Meantime I am going ahead with planning my work trip to the US later in the year. I have a theory that once I have got everything organised, meetings arranged and flights booked - then it will happen!

Sorry to be an intermittent poster - I am trying to restrict myself on the basis that I am supposed to be having a mini break from it all. But I am thinking of everyone and keeping an eye on you all! A X
Me 39 PCO - TTC since Aug 05
2 IVF/ICSI, 2 FET. All BFN
BFP Oct 07

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