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Hoping - That sounds fantastic! From all the stuff I've read, it seems that once the transfer is complete it's just luck. I've read reports of women with super embryos not get pregnant and women with 4-celled "fair" embyos get pregnant. I think that it's up to chromosomes at this point, but who knows?

Do you plan on testing before your blood test? I'm already starting to get a little nutty. I spent the whole weekend reading stuff on the internet about success rates and 2ww symptoms, etc. I'm convinced that I have implantation cramps right now (but actually, I think it's gas - sorry, TMI!). I don't know how I'm going to last for two weeks!
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andrea - I've come to the same conclusion that you've come to. I don't think there is anything that can be done at this point to improve the chances of pregnancy. It's hard though, because you get so much information so often through out the first part of this and then nothing...

I don't know if I'm going to do a pregnancy test before the blood test or not. My RE said not to, he said that over the counter pregnancy tests might not even be able to pick up a pregnancy at that point. Also, of course if you test too early you could still pick up the HCG from the trigger shot which would give a false positive. It will be very hard to wait that long and not test at all.

At this point I still just feel that bloated feeling, probably left over from the retrieval. But everything I've read on signs of pregnancy during the 2ww seem like they could all also be symptoms of the progesterone.

I'll get a call from the embryologist probably on Wed to tell me whether any of my other pre-embryo's made it to the blastocyte stage to be frozen. I don't know if that's any indication of how the once that were transfered are doing. Because they are in a totally different environment. Once transfered those pre-embryos should be in their optimal environment for this. So I think you're right, it's all up to chromosomes at this point.

My RE told me after the transfer that I can feel confident that I did everything I could do this cycle to get pregnant. But you know, it still all comes down to chance and luck and you can't skip the wait! :( I wish I had something crazy going on to pass the time, but things are even slow for me at work!
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I know what you mean, Andrea! I'm trying to compare it to when I was pregnant the first time (resulting in miscarriage). That is probably a bad plan. My DP keeps asking how I feel, what I feel. She's so excited for it to work. Truth is so am I. I'll admit that if it doesn't work, I'm going to be despondent....
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In the beginning I was afraid to be to positive about the whole thing as if it would help me deal with the disappointment if it didn't work. But I gave that up. I don't think it would have helped me and if anything, maybe the positive thinking will help? But like you said lightcoming, if this doesn't work I'll be a mess. So... Don't think of that, it is going to work, in fact, it's working right now. :)
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Ditto to both of you. I figure that I don't want to deny myself living in the land of hope while I can. If it doesn't work, I'll be crushed, but it's definitely not going to help to be pessimistic and I do believe that a positive mental state can help increase our odds.

"My RE told me after the transfer that I can feel confident that I did everything I could do this cycle to get pregnant. " - This is sooo true. Everytime I get freaked out, I'm going to think about this statement.

Now, back to crazy talk. I was thinking of testing out the HCG trigger around Thursday (aka 6dp3dt) and then if I do break down and take a test later, I'll know if a positive is real or just the trigger.

I never got a call from the embryologist, so I don't think they had any more to freeze. That's ok, hopefully I won't need any frozen ones. . .
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Lightcoming - I can't imagine how horrible a miscarriage had to have been. I'm so sorry. I guess no one can really understand unless it happens to them. Wishing you and your partner lots of luck with this one.
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Lightcoming - I don't think anyone should have to go through a miscarriage, it would be so hard. Maybe this will be the one for you and your partner, you deserve it!

andrea - That's an interesting idea about the HPT. I would think you might want to wait a few more days, maybe 8 or 9dp3dt. That should technically give the HCG time to get out of your system, but any pregnancy wouldn't have time to produce enough to register yet. If you do it you'll have to let us know how it goes.
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Post by hoping4bfp »

Guess what guys. I heard from the embryologist today that two of my three extra embryos made it to the blastocyte stage and were able to be frozen! I know that it's not a direct indicator as to how the transfered ones are doing, but I think it's a good sign since we transfered the ones that looked even better! So if they made it this far they just have to hatch and implant!

andrea did you do a HPT to test for the false positive from the HCG shot?

8 days until pregnancy test and counting...
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Yay, Hoping, that's great! That has to feel really good!

No, I haven't tested out the trigger shot yet. I'm going to try tomorrow morning. I'll let you know if it's gone (in case you get a case of the hpt crazies and want to test, too!)
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Hi Gals.

This morning (6dp3dt), I took a hpt to make sure that the hcg trigger (10,000 units) is out of my system. My hpt was the plus/minus type from Rite Aid that supposedly measures down to 25 mIU hcg. I had a negative result, so the trigger is out of my system.

I guess that's good that I know that, but taking that test this morning gave me flash backs of all the negative hpts that I've taken over the years. . . not a pleasant feeling. Those are evil sticks!

How are you girls holding up? I've finally realized that it's unlikely that I'd have any symptoms during the 2ww, so I've stopped obsessing over every little cramp or pain.
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Post by hoping4bfp »

andrea - I'd say that it's good news that the trigger shot is out of your system, that means that when you get closer to your test date if you get a positive you'll know for sure that it's not the HCG shot you're seeing. But I wouldn't worry about the negative you saw, it's too early for any HPT to pick up any HCG, and if they could clearly detect it this early they'd have us come in earlier for the blood work. Finally seeing a positive might have felt good, but since you were checking for left over trigger you would have to qualify it with that. The real test is yet to come, and hopefully it will be worth the wait!

I keep telling myself the same thing with the symptoms, but it's still hard not to notice every little twinge.
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Post by hoping4bfp »

I posted this question on the general forum, but I haven't gotten any responses yet, so I thought I'd post it here too for you guys.

I was just wondering what your thoughts are, or what your Dr's told you about the timing of your progesterone shots.

I was told to take my shot between 6-8pm but I assumed that it was better to get it at the same time each day. So I've been doing it at 7pm every night. Tonight, however, I have a class I'd like to go to that would mean I'd have to take the shot either at 5:45pm or at 9pm.

How important is it to get this shot at the same time every day? Does anyone know?
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Hoping -

Sorry, I don't have a real answer, but I can give you my opinion. It seems to me that the goal is to maintain a certain amount of progesterone in your body at all times, therefore, I would think that taking your shot earlier would be better (because you haven't "run out" of the previous shot yet). You just probably have to take your shots at the earlier time from now on. To be honest, it's probably not a big deal at all, but I'm not even on the shots. I'm on Prometrium which you take vaginally. I hope someone else knowledgeable responds.

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Post by lightcomingon »

Hey Ladies

I'm also on the pregesterone suppositories. I have to say, I almost like the shots better... Well, almost.

I'm driving myself crazy over here. Even with the distraction of nieces and nephew, I'm still counting the days... My blood test is for Wednesday and I'll actually be out of town! I'll have to find a clinic that does them and give them my RE docs prescription for the test... So, of courst I'll be POAS at some point!
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Lightcomingon -

Refresh my memory, did you have a day 4 transfer? Either way, you'll be testing at 15 dpo, right? I'm not getting my blood test until Friday, or 17 dpo, but I know that I'll POAS, even though I'm completely terrified to do it.

Also, did you have any symptoms at all when you were pregnant before? I know, I know, I'm just going to torture myself with the info you give me!

I'm very excited for you, two PGD-ed 4 (or 5?) day embies. Sounds great! Good luck.
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