Awaiting Treatment

Angel505 · Post by **Angel505** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 12:45 pm

Well, just got a call from the doctor. Remember the blood test I went for.....well they just can't understand why my vitamin levels won't go up and why I'm constantly anemic. I have been going for regular blood tests for them to monitor these things. I have really improved my eating habits......and whatever junk like crisps and chocolate I eat is only additional to my well balanced meals every day plus multi vitamins with folic acid. The doctor knows that we are going for tmt, and has been an absolute gem and was wondering if maybe the deficiencies are reducing my chances of success. So anyways, I have been referred to a nutritionist first for them to see if they can help, if not they have suggested putting me on injections to begin with (I think its once every 3 months). yuck.....as if my skin is not getting enough of the needles.

ICSI GIRL · Post by **ICSI GIRL** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:01 pm

YES, YES, YES to everything you said angel!!!! i don't understand how i can be so strong on any given day ---- and yet cry like a baby when it comes to dealing w/ all this crap!!! so i know EXACTLY what you mean about family thinking i am weak ----- the VERY reason we chose to not tell family.......dh and i (and well, all my bff's out here) are the only ones that know about our treatment.....

Sounds like yer doc is a good one!!! Go see the nutritionist --- perhaps they'll be able to UNLOCK THE DOOR TO YOUR BFP!!!!!!!!!!!

So i'm just back from the lab and it was one of the more difficult "appointments" i've had to deal with!!!! why you ask??? (ok - so maybe you didn't ask why)...........because all the lab techs and nurses were all "your pregnancy this" & "your pregnancy that" and "how far along are you" & "is this your first" & "oh you must be so excited" --- and i just wanted to tell them all to F*&# OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i know they meant well..................i really do...........but honestly --- if you don't know the WHOLE story --- it's really best to just keep your mouth shut!!!!

Back to work i go...........am still working on this crazy deadline and at this pace --- i'm surely going to be here all weekend long!!!! MUST GET SOMETHING DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!! i'll be in/out today......

Angel505 · Post by **Angel505** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:14 pm

Angie, sorry about all that stuff at the lab. Its difficult to deal with people's comments at the best of times, but when you are going through a rough period, it hurts even more.

I know its not the answer, but I find the best way to be happy at the moment is to shut myself away from people. I only go out in bigger groups where I know that serious topics will be avoided. My DH isn't happy about that but has accepted that as a short term solution as he's seen it make a difference. And of course coming on here makes me happy

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I hope for your sake, tomorrow comes quickly. And keeping everything crossed for a leap in your beta levels.

Angel505 · Post by **Angel505** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 2:16 pm

BECKY

wishfull27 · Post by **wishfull27** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:25 pm

hellooo ladies... yous ee eveythime I leave you you go posting mad

Icsi - I think it all sounds very positive - but will hold off the congrats until toms results .. loved Beckys suggestions for telling DH - I can; believe youa re managing to keep this all to yourself .. well you and a million cyber buddies

- what time should you know result tom -sending you truck loads of PMA and sticky baby dust to keep you going over night xxx

Becky - sorry in my rush to go away forgot to wish you luck for todays appointment - hope all went well and let us know asap what they said - remeber your bad diet day is only like 1 meal out of 28 - focus on all the good food/meals you have eaten and not the 3 bad things - when is weigh in .. is it Thursday???

Angel .. hello my love - maybe the anaemia is no helping with trying for BFP .. that will be why you feel so low and run down .. i know it will be another injection but heyho after all the others we do whats one evry three months

Rachel - great to hear from you, can't believe how big Ruby is now - hope the injection went ok and no adverse reactions x

Sue - wow - finishing work next week - perfect for wimbledon and especially if weather is nice - although with big fat belly suppose you want it coooler than hotter x

Well I am back froma lovely couple of days chilling - it was so quiet at Champneys that they had loads of treatments for half price .. I was jut going to do exercise classes and let follis grow but ended up having treatments as well .. spoilt brat

- had mega fun doing rebounding(jumping around on mni trampoline .. not good if have a weak bladder or no sports bra on

- me and SIL nearly wet ourselves from laughing - all the pros were dead serious and we were like the naughty children at the back!!

anyway back to reality now - feeling great no side effects - except few bruises .. just waiting for fridays scan

love to all

carolyn xx

ICSI GIRL · Post by **ICSI GIRL** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 4:57 pm

oh carolyn -- i'm jealous of your little holiday w/ SIL!!! sounds FAB!!! thanks for your kind words AND for your withholding of congrats...... little early on the draw at the momen

i know, i can't hardly believe myself that i've not told dh what's going on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but i have you guys!

angel.......my dear, sweet angel..........you always have something so very refreshing to say!!! love your reads

always bring a smile to my face

yes, can't wait for tomorrow --- but is also painful to think of the fact that ONCE AGAIN i'll have lived thru bfp turned bfn

bloody hell!!!!! i'm trying so hard to remember the secret -- i really am...... but am so very guarded at the moment that i simply can't allow myself any room for "hope"............UGH!!!

BECKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! where r u?????? i bet yer out celebrating w/ brian on account of your new RE appt going FAB???!!!!!!

if that's the case - then you are forgiven for being absent today.....

ICSI GIRL · Post by **ICSI GIRL** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:13 pm

ANGEL!!!!! come-out...come-out wherever you are!!!!!! i just thought of something ---- you should check out zita west website for vitamin for WOMEN prepping for cycles......they have 'em -- same as for the men, but for women.....and w/ your doc not sure of your deficiency -- is worth a shot!!!

am slammin busy at work - but just now thought of that and wanted to say before i forgot!!!!

Angel505 · Post by **Angel505** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:27 pm

ICSI GIRL wrote:ANGEL!!!!! come-out...come-out wherever you are!!!!!! i just thought of something ---- you should check out zita west website for vitamin for WOMEN prepping for cycles......they have 'em -- same as for the men, but for women.....and w/ your doc not sure of your deficiency -- is worth a shot!!!

That was loud...........I heard you from acrosss the pond!!!!!!!!!

I wasn't hiding, only went to search for Becky. Didn't find her

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Angie, you are such a sweetie. Thanks for thinking about me. I'll have to look into it - thing is l am already I am already taking 3 types of supplements everyday. So will have to ask the doctor first as I don't want to turn into a junkie

I really appreciate you thinking about it and letting me know. I have also seen some herbal supplements on her website - surely that should be ok with everything else.

Angel505 · Post by **Angel505** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:34 pm

Carolyn, you sound so refreshed and full of life. Good on you for that mini break. It seems to have done a good job of relaxing you which is so important for your cycle. I've always wanted to go to Champneys. Sounds like all the pros needed you to lightent he mood a bit. Seriously though, what the point in being tight faced and intense at a place where you are meant to rejuvenate????

Don't worry about the side effects - you had so much fun and weren't focused about tmt all the time. The relaxed state helps and its better not to be analysing everything anyway. You'll soon find out at your Friday scan.

I'm pooped from doing a follie dance for you. May I stop now????

ICSI GIRL · Post by **ICSI GIRL** » Tue Jun 10, 2008 6:36 pm

well for what its worth --- the zita west website DOES have all of their ingredients listed for each thing they sell (which was one of the selling points for me) -- you could look to see if what you're currently taking is in there at all and then plan accordingly.......

just a thought.....but seriously --- if zitas products had NOT broken down all of the ingredients (AND the amount of each one) -- i'm not so sure i would have been as interested....but could clearly see it was nothing more than combo of various herbs/vitamins that you can buy over the counter!! so it must just have something to do with the "combination" of them all!!!

Welshgirl38 · Post by **Welshgirl38** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:16 am

Ladies Ladies Ladies …

First off – soooooo sorry sorry sorry for not letting u know yesterday how it went at my appt! I was so busy at work and felt i couldnt log on and chat as i had been at my appt for a total of 4 hours all in all with the travelt here and back etc !

Have plenty of news to catch up on before I tell u anyhow!

ICSI: I know its hard to worry about ur numbers going up an going down …. I cant imagine how u feel especially with what happened the last time u got ur bfp – BUT – the last time ur numbers were very much lower when u started off too! Im praying that they go up for you hun, praying hard for u. Is it today u get ur next lot of blood results?? Xxxx
Oh u asked too about pics of facebook and the tattoo on me arm – yes it does say Becca, that’s what most people call me from back home in Wales! The only reason im called Becky is cos its my computer name – and its what Brian’s family call me, cos its what he used to call me when we first met (in a chat room lol) so – im Becky to some people, Rebecca to some, Becca or Bec to family in Wales, Welshbugger to Shantala lol, and generally whatever one wants to call me (as long as its legal lol) hope that clears it up for u hun

xxx

Carloyn: Wow! That break away sounds as if its done u the world of good. Sounds like u had a right laff in the back of the class like naughty children – lucky u didn’t get detention lolol!! How u feeling now? Gawd – ur gonna kill me when I ask whats next stage – when is ur scan? I know u prob already said but im thick – yes im thick and I don’t take it all in lol …. Xxxx

Angel: Hello sweetie, hows u today? Once again – sorry for not letting u know sooner about my appt hun, I bet u were calling me rotten all night

so … better let u know how it went and what’s happening then …

Saw consultant who went thru my notes (remember this is the first clinic I ever went to and had my first tmt of ivf back in Sept 2006) and he said – so ur up for another go then, I explained that we had just finished tmt with The Royal that obvisouly didn’t work, so he asked a few questions about it. I explained that I was d/r for 5 half weeks – he was stunned

I said that I started stimms before I had a scan – he was stunned

I explained that I only got 2 scans thru out the whole 8 wks of tmt – he was stunned

I explained that they didn’t give me a fsh test – so we only ended up with 1 egg (which i am convinced that if they had given me the test, they could have managed my drugs better!) again he was stunned, I said that on our last scan they told us we were looking at 5-6 eggs from the right ovary, but nothing from the left – then when we got to EC, we got just the 1 egg from the left side where they said there was nothing, and nothing at all from the right where they said there were 5-6 – again he was stunned. Then he asked, have they explained what happened, I said we haven’t got our appt until July 29th – by now he was dumfounded

!!! So – we agreed that I had no faith with the Royal clinic lol and had it not been a free go, then I wudnt have gone there! So after all the moaning I did about the Royal – we went on to my nxt tmt

We agreed to have another AF and then go on my one after that – my workings out will be around end of July – so 21 days after that! Looks like im back on the rollercoaster middle of Aug then

– BUT – it is up to us and we were told we can go any time after my next AF (have to have that 1 first) – so if I decide to wait another mth then go in Sept – that’s fine. I have to go back in 2 weeks and have a AMH blood test – this is new and works out how many egg reserves u have left in ur body. Doesn’t make a difference if its taken in middle, end or beginning of ur cycle – and after that result, they can tell if im gonna be a good responder or a bad one. They told me that the dose I was on with them the last time when I got 12 eggs, was high (but not the highest) so if my reserves have gone down since then, then they can up my drugs so we get more than the 1 egg!

Also decided ladies to fertalize all eggs

if we get more than 10 ferts, the rest will be frozen on day 1 and all the 10 will stay out so we can get the better quality and have a choice! Had to sign all consent forms for 2 embryos to be put back – but was told that as I will be 40 by the time we have tmt – these consent forms can be changed to having 3 embryos put back! Just had to sign for 2 this time as im still a wee pup and only 39 (lol @ pup - i wish!!) The Jury is still very much out on that one – im really concerned with having 3 put back, but want the best chace – so maybe wait an see the quality on the embryos before we actually decide if it’s a 3 or a 2 to put back.…. have plenty of time to decide that one!

So my fitness regime is now on full force. Angel I went to slimming class last night instead of Thursday – as Thursdays class is too far away from home – and I got weighed and I said to the woman – it prob wont be much now as im 2 days early (trying to get out of the shit day I had on Sunday lol) and when I stood on the scales she said to me – well if this is what u can do in 5 days – goodness knows what u can do in 7 – I have lost 4.5lbs!!!! Don’t ask me where it went tho lol …. Im sure its wrong, but I took the credit and got applauded by the rest of my fat friends in class hee hee … so im off to change my ticker now – whippieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Xxxxxx

Angel505 · Post by **Angel505** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 10:55 am

Well, helloooo……look who's back. Becky, you should know better than to disappear on us for a whole day when we were sat thinking about you.

Really pleased your appointment went well. You sound quite happy with the clinic and the RE. Its good that they have suggested the blood test; at least you'll have your meds based on well informed facts rather than a generic prescription. So when are you going to start - the August or September cycle??

Well done on the weight loss. That is fantastic. I was just going to ask you today if you are meant to lose any weight in the first week. I have been so good but the trousers I wore today feel quite snug (wore them last week and they were fine). I checked on my bathroom scales and looks like I have put on a pound. Apart from the healthy eating, I have also been good with the exercise - 4 days last week. I just don't get it. Help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Angie - have you gone to the lab for the bloods. Keeping everything crossed for you. Do I take it that DH knows now?

I am looking into the Zita West supplements. Will take the details and ingredients and discuss it with the dietician. Also considering going to Zita West clinic for accupuncture nearer the time. Thanks again for looking out for me.

Carolyn - you need to change jobs so that you can come on here more frequently

. How is you today?

ICSI GIRL · Post by **ICSI GIRL** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:37 pm

HELLOOOOO LADIES!! thought i'd better log on to post BEFORE i get my bw results so that i can atleast have one happy post today!!! (i know - my attitude sucks!!)...........

BECCA --- i LOVE IT!!!!!!!!

oh it sounds like yer appt was FAB!!! that's awesome............what did brian think of it all????? And you don't have to tell me if you don't want (although - i've shared some pretty intimate secrets w/ you!!!) ha, ha!! anyway --- so if this isn't a "free" round --- how much does tmt cost for you guys over there??? curious if at all in line w/ ours..........and we don't have a "free go" over here -- nope!!! is all either cash only OR some health insurance....anyway - for us it is approx $10-15,000 including all meds......and ya know, if i were in your wee pup shoes ------- i would SO not hesitate in putting THREE embies back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you and brian would be the best mum & dad ever to a set of trips!!!

Angel -- did ya get your appt sorted w/ the dietician?? when is it??? i'm very jealous that actually GOING to the zita west clinic is an option for you!!!!

is way too far across the pond for me i'm afraid.....

So i've gone for my bloods..........and now we wait

HATE this part!! although --- lab tech says she "secretly" ordered as "STAT" (right away) cuz she knows how anxious i am -- wasn't that sweet???

so while it will still be a couple hours --- atleast it shouldn't be ALL DAY.....i'll take it!

i know what i've been meanin to ask you guys --- did you ever seen the movie "THE HOLIDAY" w/ cameron diaz and kate winslett????? i loved that movie and think of you guys whenever i watch it

how fantastic would that be????? EXCEPT THAT instead of simply TRADING --- i would want to hang w/ you guys --- so i'd come there and hang w/ you and then you could come here and hang w/ me!!!

how far apart are you angel and beck?? like in hours???? curious.........

Angel505 · Post by **Angel505** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 12:53 pm

So the waiting commences again…………………………………

Seriously, we are always waiting for something with this whole IF stuff.

I've seen The Holiday - quite enjoyed it. So are you our American friend with a huge house and a pool?

How far am I from Becky in hours……..that needs more clarification. Do you mean walking, running, driving, train journey or flying???? Well, whichever it is, I have no clue!! I haven't visited Becky's part of the world (Ireland) yet. Hmm….can you picture us all hanging out together? Like how crazy would people think we are……..not crazy for hanging out together, but just the general crazy stuff that we seem to talk about. I would imagine that we would start out laughing about all the stuff we've written and end up crying about how much this all hurts.Accupunture

Zita West is an option for me, but its damn expensive. The first session is £125, followed by £85 per session. On the cost of the whole treatment, it works out to roughly £4500 - £6000 for treatment, plus meds about £2000 plus any consultations. It can vary quite a bit depending on the hospital and location. A lot of people don't have private health insurance as there is no need to. The ones who do have it are not likely to be covered for IF.

Will be looking out for your news.

ICSI GIRL · Post by **ICSI GIRL** » Wed Jun 11, 2008 1:14 pm

don't exactly have the kind of house or large pool that the american had in the movie -- i sorry

i do live on a lake though --- does that count?????? and i do have a house that will accomodate "guests" -- have a guest bedroom and everything!!!!!

far as you and beck and how far apart you are -- me and geography do NOT go hand in hand

that being said --- i only know that you're both from UK and "assumed" (silly girl!!!) that it couldn't possibly too far apart!! ha, ha ha!!! once again ---- geography was NEVER a favorite topic of mine!!!!!

wouldn't it be a HOOT if we were actually able to have a real life meeting?????? could you imagine??????? wow.....the fun we'd have.... i imagine us all being so sore from laughing the night away!!!! like a slumber party of teenage girls is how i envision "us"!!!

Awaiting Treatment

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