Awaiting Treatment

[Miracle08]

Hi Ladies...sorry I wasnt able to post yesterday. I was going to sign on last night at home and well...I was just tired. I know it isnt a good excuse, I am sorry. Will do better...


Oh, Shantala...I am so sorry lovey!! I meant to thank you so much for letting us know the great news of Nims baby girl!!!! Thank you so much!! How is your baby girl? And you of course??? Love seeing you drop by here!!!

PMA, hi there!!! You are so cute. I am gone for a day and you missed me...awwww..... SO LOVEY...today is THE DAY!!!!! I am so excited for you!!!! So, when you find out that all the frosties have thawed perfectly, how many are you going to put back home?? When you get your BFP in a few weeks, I hope you wont stop posting here. You sound so happy about your b day party. So you are a vegetarian?? I am not totally a veg, but I sooo could be. I only eat chicken and sometimes ground beef. I am not into meat at all. Drives my family crazy...(hope I didnt gross you out by saying what I eat...I know it does some people)
It is only 647am where you are...and I am already on pins and needles waiting to here the frosty report!!! Even though I already know it will be great!!!

Hi Wishfull...how was the dinner? I hope it wasnt too bad!! So, what is going on? Have you been to RE at all lately??

Oh Chirss...You are having entirely too much fun...we miss you...

BECKY!!!!! Hiya lady!!!! I was so happy to sign on and see our Becky has posted. You are in a great mind frame!!!! So proud of you. Glad to hear you and DH are doing well too!!!

OK, so where is ANGIE???

Hrobinson...how are you? All ready for back to school??

Picses...Glasgowbird...come on ladies...where are you two??

So...has anyone been watching the Olympics?? I love them. Did you see our ladies (USA) won silver in gymnastics??? So proud of those girls. That Shawn is just awesome. Such a talented girl. I hope she will be back in 2012!!! The Chinese were flawless...they really did well!!! I love the diving and swimming too!!! I am a geek, I know... ok ladies, have to get some work done. Geesh...what do they take me for?? dont they know I am here just to chat with you all???

[PMApsy]

Morning ladies!

Gosh... will that phone ever ring??? Why in the world have I asked them to call at 8:15 instead of 8:00!!! LOL Fifteen minutes and it's bogging me, imagine 2 weeks!

Let's do personals in the meantime...

Carolyn,
How was the dinner dear? Anything fun planned for the weekend?

Welshbugger,
Hehehehe believe me, I'm trying to bugger off to the other side! And when I do, you better follow!!!! It is nice indeed to chat with people I've cycled with. The lovely ladies on this thread are amazing, but for some reason... the 2007 May/June thread girls were an amazing group and we were really close. And all those women I was close to became pregnant; they were the Feb 2008 mummies. So either way, it's nice to see "familiar faces"!

Miracle,
How is the inventory doing? Nice to have you back! Of course we miss you dearest! Even if you're away for a day! It shows!!! Of course I won't stop posting here if I have a BFP, although I'm not sure I should? Isn't the "part 2" thread meant for people who become pregnant? Yes, I'm a vegetarian, but not THAT kind of vegetarian. I don't preach and I don't try to convert people! I have irritable bowel syndrome, and I found this amazing book written by a patient-expert. Following the guidelines, I stopped eating red meat and drinking alcohol (I had already stopped drinking coffee and tea) and the difference was simply astounding. I had one relapse, but because of a BCP my clinic had me take for 5 weeks in a row (cysts). Then I saw the video "meet your meat". I was in shock! I had heard friends talk with a lot of uneasiness about documentaries they had seen on the treatment of animals, but I had never seen one myself. I couldn't watch more than 3-4 minutes, I was too horrified. My husband is not completely vegetarian, but he tries to eat vegetarian most of the time and he didn't mind at all that I would only cook vegetarian meals at home. That was in August 2007. I had a little "relapse" between April and June 2008, beacuse of the renovations, somehow in the turmoil I didn't have the time to plan vegetarian meals like I used to. But I watched the video again and this time made the switch for good. It took a whole year, but my family seems to understand that my choice is not a fancy, and it really makes a difference with my health. So they try to accomodate me the best they can. Of course I understand that not everybody is willing to change their habits when I come for dinner or for a stay. So of course I'll prefer eating vegetarian when I can, but I won't do a tantrum if I have to eat fish or poultry. Nevertheless, I have found a ton of amazing vegetarian recipes, and I can proudly say that we eat very well. My DH is French, so LOL he can be picky about food, and he's very happy with the way we eat!

Okay, so the technician called while I was writing personals... and I have the news. And they are not so good. 2 frosties survived, but... she said they were "moderate quality", whatever that means. It's all in the way she phrased it, it was horrible... "They were 6 cells yesterday, and this morning there was one brown cell, so a dead cell... but they were 8 cells this morning, so that's why we'll transfer them, because they're dividing." The way she said it... like they baaarely made it and we'll transfer them but they're really borderline...

Ouch, this is bad... DH was disappointed too. I mean, there's ALWAYS something wrong with our cycles. Before, there was ALWAYS a problem with my body. OHSS, big cysts, liquid in my tubes, HUGE right tube, and so on. Always something. Never the embies. And now, when my body is finally cooperating after 3 surgeries, the embies are moderate quality. I'm SO angry and sad and disappointed at the same time! I remember our last frosties... there were so many cells on transfer day!!! I mean, like 15-16 cells!!! They had been frozen on day 3, just like these. And now our frosties barely made it to 8 cells!!! 8 miserable cells on day 4!!!! Oh, this is not good at all...

I know what I must do. I know that many people here had low-quality embies and they became pregnant, I know, I've read their posts. I've seen them be miserable as I am right now, and become pregnant all the same. I also know that everything is happening exactly the way it should, even if I don't understand everything or if it seems terribly unfair. I know I'm hard on them. They're just a little sleepy, they're not abnormal, just a little slow. I know I should welcome those little embies no matter what quality they are and give that 2ww my very best, give them an honest chance even in my head. But it's really hard to do right now.

Okay, okay... silly as it seems, that's working. Sleepy embies. I can live with that. Cells are normal, one dead cell is not the end of the world even if it's the first time it happens. They're just dividing slowly, but still, they're dividing. They're alive. They survived the thaw but they need to wake up a little bit and realize they have to do the work now. I'll give them a chance. The rest is completely out of my hands and I have to live with that. That's what faith is about, right? No guarantees... but you do jump in with all your might all the same.

So that's the news ladies... I'll go to the clinic at 10:30 for the transfer. And I'll try to be in a better mood by then! talking to the nurses and doc will help I'm sure.

Lots of hugs ladies! Sorry the news isn't better...

Sophie

[Angel505]

Hey ladies,

I must admit that I haven't really read back and caught up properly. But it looks like we have some new friends. Welcome to you all. Its not just the support I've received here, but also shared many laughs as Miracle will agree.

Becky - of course we understand the need for you to take some time out. And glad that its helping you. Sorry it’s a bit late but a very HAPPY 40th to you!!!! Hey, we'll be cycling together after all. Cool, we'll get our BFPs together. Yeah, I'm still struggling with the weight loss too. Why does it have to be so darn difficult?? I've only managed to lose 3 kgs after all this time.

Miracle - I missed you too hun. So are you melting away in the heat there? The weather here is horrible. Yesterday it was windy and pouring with rain. So is DH still working away from home?

Carolyn - How are you? Must have been difficult going back to work. Have you been going to the gym? Hows the counselling sessions going? And any progress in your quest for new clinic?

Chriss - Are you enjoying the summer break? Hopefully you have more of a summer than we do.

Hrobinson - you are on a summer break too right? Have you been doing nice things? Any decisions on when you're going for tmt next?

PMA - love reading your posts. Hey, looks like you are going to be PUPO soon. You take care of yourself and talk to your embies. We'll be rooting for ya. Just saw your post on the thaw report. Try to focus on the positives - they ARE dividing. And they have survived the thaw. Don't think of them as sleepy, but think of them as the fighters. Some people have to work harder than others to achieve the same results. And remember that saying about slow and steady………… I know its difficult but there isn't anything you can do but be strong and positive. (Hey remember to tell me the same thing when I talk rubbish in future).

Shantala and Lara - how are the little princesses? Ooohh and Su you must be keeping busy with your precious lil one.

Jayne, how are you? Are you on the road to recovery now? Hope you are recovering your strength back.

Nims - how are you settling in with Eva?

[Angel505]

Becks, I know this is a bit late but:

[wishfull27]

OMGH - will have to have night away with DH more often as everyone has been out to play .. loads of pages to read!!!!

Becky - we understand and so glad have got a plan in place for whatever shall be - how did DD get on with her results today???

Angel - soooo soryy you been poorley - glad to have tou back - hope the weddings went ok .. whats your plan treatment wise now???

Mir - no appointments with RE - clinic in Marbella comes back from hols on monday so waiting to speak to them then - then will get a plan in place xx

Nims - sooo pleased for you and DH - hope labour went smoothly xx

Sjhantala - thanks for keeping us posted with Nims news - hope you and Ellie are ok xx

PMA - hope ET went ok - remember they survived and they are survivors they would only transfer them if they were good - keep posistive xxxx

Hi to everyone else I missed xx

Dinner was ok last night - had shit day first though - car broke down on M25 in pissing down rain - then got towed to garage - some valve thingmy jig and part on 6 week back order - then spent 4 hours in garage waiting for work to sort me out a hire car ... arghhhhh

anyway it will soon be friday and the weekend ... yipeee - doing buffet tom for family friend party who is 70 so got to do all shopping yet for that - joy oh joy!!!

Will be back later xxx

[Welshgirl38]

Becky - we understand and so glad have got a plan in place for whatever shall be - how did DD get on with her results today???

She PASSED!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, she didnt get the results she wanted - but she got enuff to get into Uni and im bloody well dam proud of her

Only problem now tho - is that she's moving out how am i gonna cope, i will miss her madley!

Becky Xxx

[wishfull27]

Becky - we understand and so glad have got a plan in place for whatever shall be - how did DD get on with her results today???

She PASSED!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, she didnt get the results she wanted - but she got enuff to get into Uni and im bloody well dam proud of her

Only problem now tho - is that she's moving out how am i gonna cope, i will miss her madley!

Becky Xxx

excellent .. am sure you and Brian are soooooo proud of her - where is she going and to study what???

of course you you can always go and visit/stay with her whilst away and go on girly drunken rampages with all other students or would she not let you cramp her style???

xx

[PMApsy]

Hello ladies,

First of all, thank you so very much for your words of encouragement! Angel, what you said was very true, and I did keep it with me through the whole procedure.

ET went well. We asked the embryologist a few questions and things don't look so bad at all after all. She explained that the cells died during the freezing and thawing. She mentioned them because the embryos were tinted sliiiightly brown because of that. So it's not really because the embryos are poor quality per se; a few cells died during the freezing and thawing, it happens. Now they're dividing nicely; they were more than 8 cells when we looked at them. And the new cells are normal and transparent. She said she's seen women become pregnant with that kind of embryos. They might be "medium quality" to her, but to us, they seem strong and very much alive despite the couple of dead cells.

DH and I are far more hopeful now. In fact, all the negative feelings are gone, and now I'm just settling in 2ww mode. Beta will be sooner than expected, August 26th at 1pm. We'll begin our holiday on the 20th, so we'll try to do fun things and keep busy until then. I just watched 27 dresses (cute film) and I've also rented PS I Love You. Not sure I'll watch it today. It's sunny and just warm enough outside. I think I'll grab a few lavender cookies I made on Tuesday, a glass of juice and I'll go on the terrace for some stitching, reading, and birthday dinner planning! I have the DVD until Friday next week, so...

Take care girls,

Sophie xxox

[wishfull27]

Hey Sophie - congratulations you are PUPO!!!!

Glad you have got lots planned to keep you going through the dreaded nearly 2WW - how come you go for beta before 2 weeks?? - will you POAS or are you a good girl and will wait???

Sending you tons of sticky baby dust xxxxxx

[wishfull27]

hellooo ladies

Is anyone coming out o play ... am around for a couple of hours - well meant to be working from home!!! then got to go and shop and prepare for this pesky buffet and BBQ I somehow managed to get myself voluntered to do!!

catch you laters xx

Carolyn xx

[Angel505]

PMA, you are finally PUPO!!!!!!!! Take it easy. Lavender cookies??? I've never tried those. Are they meant to have a calming effect? I loved 27 dresses too. Nothing like a chick flick to make us girls feel great.

Wishful - I am around!!!!!

[Miracle08]

Hello friends!!!! How are we today???

I am tired and ready to go back to bed... I went out with a friend last night. I didnt get home till midnight and I just couldnt sleep. I am now counting down the hours until I get off of work so I can go home, lay down and watch some TV or some girlie movies...

What is up with this movie PS I love you?? I dont think I have ever heard of it. Seems like the UK chicks have all saw it. Now you PMA!!! What is it about?? I still have to rent 27 dresses. i think I will on the way home tonight.

ok...on to my friends...

PMA...whoo hoo!!!!! CONGRATULATIONS ON BEING PUPO!!! So happy for you. Those embies are snuggling as I type!!!! I am sorry to hear that only two made the thawing...can they say why the others ones didnt? Not that it matters because you have two fighters and that is all that matters. I am so very glad you and DH are in better spirits!!! That really does help. Are you off today?? Taking it easy I hope!!!! *****STICKY STICKY STICKY EMBIES!!!!*****

Hi Carolyn!! I am here. Just takes me a little longer to sign on. I know, it seems like our thread is woken up!!! I love it!!!!

Angel love!!! How are you feeling??

Hi Becky...so happy for your daughter. That is great. I know you and DH will miss her terribly...

I guess the newbies have left us... OH and Angie...I hope everything is ok.

Oh Chriss....come back from the beach!!!

Hrobinson...how are you???

[PMApsy]

Goooood morning ladies!

How are you guys doing???

Carolyn,
Thanks for the baby dust, I'll need it!! As for the "almost" 2ww, well.. I think the nurse made a little mistake. It's funny; last FET, she scheduled me one day too late, and now one day too soon I think! At my clinic, you're tested 16 days after ER. With FET, ER is calculated according to how old the embies were when they were frozen, and when they were thawed. My frosties were 3 days old when they were thawed on Wednesday, so "ER" day would be Monday the 11th. So 16 days later would technically be the 27th, but I'll be tested on the 26th. Not complaining!!! LOL I won't POAS. To make a long story short, I do understand the women who want to know ASAP and enjoy the little line getting darker; I enjoy rejoicing with them when they do, and I find it tempting too. But it's not working for me. I've worked hard to deal with the loss of control over all this, and to reach a state of mind in which I'm just making a leap of faith with little expectations one way or the other, just trusting that what's happening is for the best. POAS is an attempt at getting some control back, and so it's against the attitude I've worked so hard to achieve.

OOooooh BBQ!!! What's on the menu? Will it be at your place? Exciting! I hope you'll have nice weather!

Angel,
Thank you so much for your nice words! I don't know if lavender cookies have a calming effect or not. I first made the recipe in June, and it was soooo divine!!! I had never tried flower-flavored cookies before. This time I added a touch of rose water to the mix, too. I've read a violet-flavored cookies recipe somewhere, too... If you like cooking, I could send you the recipe!

Welshbugger,
CONGRATULATIONS for your daughter!!! But I agree with Mir, I'm sure it will be a bit sad to see her leave the house!!! *HUGS* How is DH doing?

Miracle,
Nice to hear from you dearest!!!The weekend is here!!! Yay!!!! I hope you'll have fun spending time away from the inventory!!!!

PS I Love You was a cute movie!!! I liked the twist at the end; finally, something unexpected! The concept was very cute, and I think it was a light and good portrayal of the grieving process. 27 dresses was okay, much more stereotypes in this one. And come on, OF COURSE everyone in the UK saw PS I Love You... Gerry Butler!! Yum yum!!!

Can't wait to see Bottle Shock and Nobel Son, though... some of the last movies Alan Rickman played in. Bottle shock will be released tonight! Yaaaay! Which means we'll go see it during our holidays!

Thanks for your kind words about my embies! Yeah, it's weird, isn't it? sometimes, you forget that your embies are in there... and sometimes, you think about what's happening, knowing that you're sailing through the implantation days... hehehehe really wish I could open a liiiitle window and see what's going on in there! I'm not off, but let's face it, I'm a shrink! Wich means my work is not very physical. So I took yesterday off, and today I'm working. It will be strange to be off for most of my 2ww, never happened before! But our holidays just happened to be at the same time. Given that work is SO quiet during the summer months, I really don't mind. Because when I don't have patients, I usually spend time surfing the internet, and thinking about the embies too much! At home, at least, I'll have tons of other things to think of. And if my DH FINALLY agrees to make the leap and adopt our second dog during our time off instead of in two months, I'll have a new furbaby to play with!

I've got everything planned for our banquet on Sunday. Ooooh, exciting! We'll use my great-great-grand-mother's china; the real one, see-through cobalt blue with hand-painted flowers and gold decorations. My DH is reaaaally not sure about this, because he would prefer we expose them in a cabinet or something. But I have no less than 6 boxes of china, the whole set!!! It would be a shame if no one ever ate in those plates again! I have a white tablecloth, it will be lovely with the blue china! Plus I have a yellow Gerbera that blossomed yesterday, and a red one is on the way! I'll buy an orange one with the orchids for the cake decoration, and I'll make a nice arrangement at the center of the table... three gerberas at the base, greenery that flows on the table and one tall orchid stalk in the middle for some height.

I'm really amazed at how cheap the whole thing will be, really... vegetarian banquets are cheaper that's for sure! 7 courses, plus the appetizers, and I bet it will be only around 60$... for 6 people!!!! Tonight, I'll buy the groceries and I'll make the green apple sorbet. And tomorrow, I'll do most of the cooking, some cleaning... DH will help of course! But tomorrow morning, meditation at 10am! One of my guest wrote me yesterday... ouch; her bf dumped her, and she never saw it coming. Come on; he accepted our invitation on MONDAY and he leaves her on Wednesday?!?!?! Hey buddy, send the right signals! I don't know the details, but my friend is quite devastated. Poor thing...

Okay ladies, gotta run! Some recipes to copy before my first patient of the day shows up!

Hugs to all!!!

Sophie xxox

[hrobinson]

Good afternoon ladies. I hope everyone is offe enjoying their weekend. I have been reading....as much as I can....But mostly I have had myself glued to my classroom getting things prepared.
My dd did pretty good while up in my room. However, on Thursday, she just sat in my lap for an hour and a half and cried that she just wanted her mommy. I guess she had had enough sitting in my classroom. She is still too young to help, but I took movies for her to watch,, and food to eat.

PMA- I am so happy that you are PUPO. You sure went through a lot to get there, and then the day of the transfer was a roller coaster ride for you.
I am hoping that you are taking it easy. You are such a strong person not to POAS. I understand what you mean though about the control thing. I am too much of a control freak....would never work for me.
HAPPY EARLY BIRTHDAY

Nimble.....is you are reading, Congratulations. I absolutely love the name. I hope the delivery went well. We would love to see pictures as soon as you get a chance.

Shantala- Thanks for letting us know about Nimbles little. Have you been to see her yet? Are they all doing okay?

Angel- Sorry to hear that you have been sick. I hope that you are feeling better.

Becky- It was good to read you. I loved your list of things you can do if you don't have alittel one. I think my favorite was the walk in closet. We joke here that my dd has 2 full closets....definately more clothes than my dh and I.
I love your attitude on the whole cycling thing.

Miracle- Please don't work too hard on the whole inventory thing. You need to take a break every once in a while to chat with us. Just tell your boss, we are bossy and in need of you.

Well, I know I missed some, but I think i am going to go lay down and nap for a while. I start back to work full time on Monday, so life will get interesting, and quite busy then.
Will catch up with you guys tomorrow.

[wishfull27]

happy Birthday Sophie - hope the diner party went went and you are trying to relax and take things as easy as possible xxx

Sticky baby dust xxx