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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOO!!

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Way to go Becky!!!!! 15 eggies, that's AMAZING!!!!! DH's soldiers even have the luxury to be picky now, LOL!

I'm absolutely thrilled! Thanks Shantala for letting us know!!!!:D:D

Miracle,
GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK! The news about your husband's job is awesome! YIPPEE!!! Money money!!! I'm so sorry you've been feeling bitter lately. I wish I could make it all go away but, sadly, it's something we all go through from time to time, even when the treatments work. At the very beginning, during my first two cycles, I did the exact same thing as you. Especially during stimming and my 2ww, I would go on baby stuff websites, I'd read reviews about some products, I would check and recheck the due date, check the astrological sign the baby would be and read about his/her personality, check nursery decorations and so on. You name it. And yes, when I got that BFN, I felt stupid and even more bitter. But you and I aren't stupid. Looking at baby-related stuff is our way to live the dream. It's our way to try and get some excitement during the never-ending wait for that baby. It's a way to make us feel it's something within our reach, something that can really happen to us.

What I'm trying to say is... the fact you're still looking around for baby stuff simply means you're still believing in your dream. Keep believing, keep the faith, my sweet friend, and if your behavior makes you happy from time to time, then keep looking sweetie. Right now, there's no reason to think it will never be your turn. When your patience is FINALLY rewarded and you can give treatments a try, who knows, you might be struck with the beginner's luck! :D The lady at the pharmacy told me, long ago (the pharmacy specializes in fertility drugs), "You know, for some reason, IVF seems to work more for first timers and on the third try!" Go figure! But that's what she's observed over the years. LOL and never mind the fact she told me that... on my second attempt! :lol: (looks like she was right, I got a BFN)

Give yourself some time, hunny. It took me years before I could welcome the news of another person's pregnancy without feeling jealous, envious, angry, sad, bitter, you name it. Each person grows through that whole process, and I'm not worried for you. You've already shown many times that you have amazing qualities; no doubt they will help you through the fertility journey.

Thanks for asking about my dogs, and I'm glad to hear that Charlie is doing better. My boy is calmer now, he's a real Romeo, I swear... he keeps seducing me with his big wet brown eyes and I have to be very careful not to pet him more than my girl. He's recovered from his surgery. Now we're trying to fix the dogs' diet. The trainer made a very convincing case about natural food, basing her statements on studies with wolves. Some facts are rather disturbing... for example, in order to hold together, dry pet food has to be made of 60% cereals at least. Plus it has to be cooked at extra-high temperatures to become really hard (good luck with finding vitamins and nutrients after the cooking process). Cats and dogs don't need cereals in their diet... plus, given that there are no specific laws concerning the quality of the meat or meat flour that's used in canned or dry food, most of the meat comes from sick or dead animals, in a word, from meat that humans would never be allowed to eat. Plus, when a company buys its meat flour from another company, they're not legally bound to list its ingredients. Not to mention the fact that a lot of the information vets are given during their studies comes from food companies-funded research... get my drift? Plus the fact that many vets sell dry food, so they're automatically biased. It's too bad I wasn't there for the vet's visit yesterday, but I'll call him with some questions.

Okay, enough babbling... take care!

Sophie xxox
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Post by wishfull27 »

wow - this thread is really starting to move agagin :D

Mir - totally understand where you are coming from - its called human nature - remebmebr when mean to be eating healthy all you want is chocolate and you know you can't have it - same with IF so we just torture ourrselves even more :cry: :cry: - I even folow others that have cycel with and think if mine had worked etc etc .... its hard but we all are here for you and each other xx

At least DH now has job which is excellent news xxxx

sending you hugs honey xx
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Awwww....thanks girls!!! :wink: You made my day!!!!
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mir -- you TOTALLY described my daily life :? i too look at all the baby stuff.....there are even days/times when a fricken diaper commercial brings me to teers!!! in addition to being just generally bitter at the world (especially all those women who get bfp and "weren't even trying" - RACHEL DEAR - YOU ARE SO EXCLUDED FROM THIS STATEMENT -- YOU'VE LIVED THRU INFERTILITY.....that being said....i REALLY have bad attitude toward those women :evil: ) i also go in/out of being really mad at God.....sorry to all you Jesus lovers --- i eventually get over it (being mad specifically at Him).....but honestly, i get so pissed - wondering what i did wrong.....knowing that i want it SO badly -- so desperately -- why not me?? why can't i be a mommy???? :( guess what i'm tryin' to say is "been there - done that".....and quite honestly - still doing it!! was (am) really thrilled about the prospect of adoption and think will be a great road for us once we're finally able to get there....but in the meantime - in the absence of having money coming out my bum ---- is simply another road block..........i get what you're saying.....i SO get what you're saying... hang in there sweetie -- better days are in store for us :wink:

PMA --- or, sophie -- right?? are you one in the same?? you're right, we haven't "officially met" -- so very pleased to meet you my dear! i remember logging in and reading you during times of my "outage" and always loved your reads............your words really hit home and didn't take me long to figure out why all the gals loved you so much!! by the way -- CONGRATS on your bfp :P you're one of the lucky ones!!!

beck -- how you feeling girl?? any BCABB action on the horizon between now/ET for dear brian????? when is ET scheduled????? can't believe your crop hun!!! all i can say is must have been that belly draggin technique!! well done dear.....well done!! :wink: :wink:

angel --- come out, come out wherever you are!! another day has come to an end for you in your final days before you get your official BFP!!!!!! how you doin??????????????? things to keep busy: PICTURES -- do some scrapbooking!! i love digging thru old/new photos and arranging them in cutsie little books! oh and what about pedi/mani???????? you can do yourself ya know -- not like you must spend gobs of money..... lets see - what else....................OH I KNOW -- CELEBRITY GOSSIP!!!!!!!!!!!! i love celeb gossip!!!! one of my most fav things! magazines, tv, anything!!! more than anything - keep focused on your wee ones starting to nestle in for the long haul! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

a big hello to all the other lovelies out here reading.....must run for now - was just checking in to see if our queen beck had been out and about braggin up her bumper crop!!!!!!!!!!

love and hugs to all....will check back in the morning!
:-) Angie
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Morning my lovelies <blowkisses>

Sorry but this thread is gonna be all about me me me (self Self Self lol)

Oh hang on ... first off - Shantala <blowskisses> thank u sweetheart for letting these lovely ladies hear my news, i was so tired yesterday i didnt have the energy to post xxxx

Thank u too ladies for all your posts, u are truley amazing xxx

Angel: How are u feeling hun??? Hope u are well and staying away from those pee sticks ....

Ok here are my results:

Got our phone call at 9.30 this morning, and out of the 15 eggs we got - just 5 fertalized! :? 1 x fertalized abnormally, and the other 9 didnt fertalize at all :shock:
I asked why and the embryologist said that sometimes this happens ... the eggs were mature enough and the sperm was fine - they just didnt 'get it on' (my words not hers lol)

So anyhow - the way we look at it is this - we have 5 potential babies waiting for us :D and we are really really pleased ... thats more than what we have ever had, and we have come to the conclusion that the best 5 fertalized, the strongest 5 fertalized - and more importantlyOUR 5 special most wanted babies are already loved so much ... and we are happy happy happy with the results.

As our clinic only freeze grade (1's) or (A's) so if all had fertalized and had been a grade (b) or a (2) they would have let them perish - the thought of leaving 13 embies to perish in a dish isnt very welcomming - so we are OVER THE MOON with OUR 5 :)

I had a brill nite sleep - best in a long time to be honest, im a little sore but nothing too major at the moment - i am a bit concerned that im not in too much pain actually lol .... my tummy feels 'empty' if u know what i mean, and sort of deflated :lol:

DH waited with me until phone call this morning, then he went to get me some grocerys, and a bar of choccie (yumyum) gonna rest up now - he has gone back to work so DD is here looking after me now ..... oh i could get used to this life lol ...

So ET is on Friday, we are going for a 3 day transfer, so i can rest up and try an get as healthy as poss to greet my babies back home :D thanks ladies, u are, as always - amazing!

My love to u all Xxxxx

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BECKY omg!!!!!! FIVE EMBIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I am so happy for you. I am loving your PMA too girl!!!! How many are you transfering???? GOOD JOB LOVE!!!!!



Anyone else around??? Angel...where are you?
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My, this thread is sure on a roll again! Its lovely to see you all.

Becky - 15 eggs is absolutely amazing. No wonder you were dragging your stomach around :). You'll have the option of a choice of the best of the lot. I am so pleased for you. 5 fertilised is not bad at all. You'll have a choice of the strongest of them lot.

By the way, I too am interested if they commented on your efforts on your lady garden.

Miracle - So lovely to have you back sweetie. Sorry to hear about your furbaby being on medication. But he'll be better soon. And excellent news on DH's job. You must be releived to have the money coming in again. These are difficult times for all. My DH feels very insecure in his job right now as they are making cuts.

All your feelings are natural and that does not make you wrong. PMA is right - the fact that you are dreaming shows you have hope, and that is such an important thing. You and DH and working towards your dream and you WILL realise it one day. I went on a training course last week, and met 4 girls from other offices, all with baby bellies. They were all discussing how they were feeling….etc. DH's best friends got a baby 2 weeks back, and this weekend we will have to go and visit them. Another group of friends is organising lunch this Sunday and all they are concentrating on is places which are kid friendly. When I go out all I see is the many women with little babies. It seems that both my family and DH's family is full of very fertile people, we're the odd ones out, and honestly sometimes it makes me feel defective. DH says that things have not changes, but it’s the way I see things that has changed. One thing I have noticed is that the bitterness I used to feel has now been replaced by indifference. I still can't feel genuine happiness for anyone who announces their pg, and it does hurt, but I no longer feel resentful. I'm hoping that this will change over time and I can be happy for others (probably after another 20 years!!!).

One technique in positive thinking is visualisation and affirmation. You are encouraged to visualise what you want, dream about it, and believe it is yours. In a way, you are doing that. Hugs to you!

ICSI - see how much everyone missed you! Your DH will find a job soon. Don't you worry. You've already sorted what your next step is going to be, i.e. adoption and you have already set the ball rolling right? Its only a matter of time.

PMA - Its always nice to see your posts. Hey, you are still our resident therapist. I can't believe that you are already 13 weeks. How time flies.

Rachel - how are you dear? Please don't feel that any of our posts are aimed at you. We know you've been through this same thing before. Now your time has arrived and you shouldn't feel guilty about coming here.

Shantala - how is Ellie? Thanks for giving us the update on Becky.

Ok, will catch up some more tomorrow. Tired after a whole day's training. Also its one of those "feeling negative" and scared days for me.
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Evening ladies

Becky whhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooo so very pleased for you 5 babies how many will you transfer dont forget to take it easy will text before friday but good luck x x x

Mir very pleased that dh has got a job that must be a wait of your mind and hey youre not alone with the the always looking at baby stuff i always did it and soon you will be shopping for your own baby

Angel i'm here have been busy with ruby shes not well got a bad chest so shes been quite niggley last couple of days so when she sleeps i try and get some to how are you feeling not long now do your clinic provide you with a preg test or do you have to buy your own sending tons and tons of baby dust your way

Sophie how are you thanks for the advice on the meds but she had me stop them straight away i'm finding it quite hard and if gets worse i will go back thanks

Caroyln glad you had a good party you deserved it have you heard anything from prauge yet

Icsi hope your dh finds a new job soon is h getting on your nerves been home all the time

Hi to everyone i missed

Well its sinking in now and the tiredness is starting to kick in to but we are happy about it cautious but happy ruby is not well doc gave her anti biotics for her chest today so hope the work soon well must go take care everyone and hope all you dreams come true
lots of love Rachel x x x
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Hi Ladies,

Becky, congratulations 5 embies is great gives you some choice. Good luck for Friday, rest up and take care.

Hi to everyone else will try to catch up tomorrow if i get chance.

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Becky congrats. So how many will they transfer? I was not sure what the max was over there.
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Just a quick post before off to Champneys with my mum :lol:

Becky - excellent news on fertilisation - hope all goes well for transfer and next time I log on you will be PUPO - are you transferring 3??

Angel - all the luck in the world for your test on saturday - I can feel the BFP dust coming your wayxx

Love to everyone else - will catch up properley when back on sunday xxx

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Hi lovies!!!

How is everyone today??

Carolyn, I know I missed you, but hope you and "Mum" have a fab time!!!

Becky...arent you doing the transfer today???

Come out girls...!!!
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rachel -- can i just say that i honestly can't believe that you continue to "make time" to come read/post out here!! with little ruby and baby bro/sis on the way -- you must be EXHAUSTED!!! :? that being said..... i for one would like to THANK YOU for your continued presence!!! :P YOU GO GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!

beck -- how you feelin hun?? getting all ready to officially be PUPO??? is dd still home tending to your needs??? ooooohhh - are you getting to rest in that new fancy-shmancy 'beaudoir' of yours??? :wink:

angel --- hey girl......NOT LONG NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you hangin in there?? lots of HUGS your way sweetie!!!!!! thinking of you.... and ya know --- eventhough you don't "usually" post on weekends, this is an exception -- you do know that right??? that you don't have a choice and MUST log in to let us know the FANTASTIC NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :P :P

mir -- hiya!! so do you and dh have a timeline in mind for your next round of whatever??? curious....and perhaps i've missed that along the way of being absent (sorry :? )

stephjim --- HI!!! how's life w/ emily and ryan finally home??? bet you're loving every minute of it!!! sending lots of love your way!!!

hi jayne!!!!! always a pleasure to see ya out and about!!!

caryolyn --- you're ALWAYS off on some "posh" adventure!!! i'm SO jealous!!!!!! hope you have a fab time getting all pampered at champneys!!!

nothing incredibly newsy going on in my life at the moment... dh driving me CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!! but expected that....(not that it has made it any better mind you!).....have a busy day ahead of me --- you ladies take care!!

love and hugs to all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-) Angie
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hi Angie!!!

You are right, I don't know how Rachel does it!!! Hats off to you honey!!! And Jayne!!! You girls are something else!!!!

Yeah, we are hoping (again) to start this summer. Keep your fingers crossed!!!!

Had Dh have any leads for a job? i know how hard that can be. I am praying for you both.

ANGEL!!!! Angie is right. You better sign on to tell us the fantastic news!!!! PMA PMA PMA!!!!!!

Becky...I am in suspense...Are you transferring three???
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Hi Ladies

How are u all Xxxx

My ET is tomorrow - we are doing a 3 day transfer this time ... that way it will give the embryologist more time to pick the best embryos for the transfer. Not sure how many we are transfering to be honest .... we are down for 2 but know we can chose 3 as i am over 40 ... that being said, it all depends on how they are getting on. If we have an frosties (very doubtful tho) we will transfer 2 and freeze left overs, but if we only get 2 good ones, we mite ask to transfer the bestter 3rd one, just to be sure. I know u ladies wouldnt hesitate to take a 3rd embryo, but i really have to think about it - im 40 - could i cope with 3 babies growing inside me (should they all take) i have to think of the welfare of the children, having 3 increases the risks ... as there is 'nothing' wrong with me fertiltiy wise (we are only doing this cos i am steralized) and the fact that i have already had 2 natural pregnancies - then we stand a good chance of this working with better embryos than we have had before.

Its a lot to take it, and a lot to decide, we will only have a matter of minutes when we get to the clinic and find out how they are doing .... suppose i cant anwser ur question really ladies ....... ur guess is as good as mine ;)

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