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oh angel........(((((((((BIGGEST OF HUGS)))))))))))) to you friend..... i understand how heartbreaking that can be :( i'm so very sorry that you've had to go it 'alone'.....you know where we are when you're ready.
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lee --- WOW.....more i read you -- more i get the biggest kick out of you!!! you're going to be an amazing mommy!!!!!! :D

mir --- you gonna be out-n-about today??? or got your nose back in the school books??? :wink:

oh carolyn ---- come-out, come-out wherever you are!!!!!!!!!!!! (i know you said you'd not likely be around yesterday.......but today is another day and generally by the time i'm logging in for first of the day -- you've already been in to say hi!!!) or have i missed paying attention again and you said you'd not be around today either????? i just can't keep up w/ all of our schedules at times!!! :roll:

soph -- how's dh getting along hun??? and what about you -- you had pretty busy day (week) thus far --- you and bump hangin in there???

gonna be another hectic day for me (i should just save that and do copy/paste instead of having to type it out daily!!!!! :shock: ) have lots of meetings...including my quarterly evaluation from my boss ---- not really that big of deal.....she does a good job of blowing rainbows and sunshine up my arse -- but have learned she is all talk!!! i mean, don't get me wrong, am very pleased that she is impressed w/ my work and all --- but as perfectly said in the movie jerry mcguire ----- SHOW ME THE MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (right??)

LOVE & HUGS TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Oh Angel.... :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

I am terribly sorry. I do not understand why these cruel things in life happen. It isn't fair. I hope I didnt put any pressure on you when I said that I missed you. I just wanted to make sure, in case you were reading you know how much you are loved here and that we are always thinking of you. I just dont know what to say except how sorry I am and vent all you like. Try not to hold it in.

I just want to say, and I am sure you dont want to hear it so I am sorry, but the good side is that you got preggo on your own. And that it never happened before...well that is something!! That is amazing. Keep your head up and dont count yourself out. As you know, miracles DO happen!!

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Hi girls...

I am just gutted for Angel. That totally brought my day down. I feel so helpless...I feel helpless for my friend in the hospital too. I am so angry right now. WHY in the world is God putting such good people through misery????????????????????????????
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Angel - honey am absolutely devastated for you and DH - sending you huge hugs ((((((()))))))xx

But like the other girls have said .. you have proved you an get pregnant and it will happen again .. you know where we are when you need us or feel ready to come back xxxxx
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Afternoon ladies ...

Lee - you are one strong women - I would never want them to go home - especially when you know they may not be going back to the most loving/secure environments ... I would def become too emotionally involved and would not be able to cut myself off. Hope you are planning lots of you and DH time before FET ... its not long now xxx

Mir - sorry your having down day ... sometimes I think we all winder if ther is anyone up there cos when life is shit it sure don't feel like it :cry: :cry: Hope your managing to keep all them balls juggling and fitting everything in ?? thinking of your friend too xxx

Sophie - how much longer at work now - can't believe your 31 weeks - where hads the time gone ?? how is Dh is there some improvement .. laughed at the thought of little Dick !!!!!! - love the names but think when he arrives there will be one that just seems perfect!!

Ang - I am so sorry I did not check in before I went to work this morning .. it was kinda early and it took me all my time to get organised :roll: :roll: I need a pass for next week - wednesday till saturday if thats ok with you ?????? tell that boss to pee off and let you talk to your friends !!!

Becky - hugs honey - hows things with you ??

Nothing much to report this end - had 2 full on days at work, but working from home tom - well sort of - appointment at docs in morning to try and get him to give me something forgot to collect in Prague - got prescription but its in Czech!!!! then legs waxed .. then collect new glasses from opticians then might fir 10 mins in to do some emails :lol: :lol:

Will be around later

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Beautiful Angel,

At first I was thrilled to see a post from you, and then my heart sank when I read about your experience. We all experience miscarriage differently, and we each give it a meaning of our own. The wound always stays there, it becomes part of your life story, but the pain does subside one day, and the unfairness of it, which nurtures the pain a lot at first, subsides too eventually.

I understand your need to distance yourself from the board, I did the exact same thing last year when it happened to me. Like the other girlies said, though, you know we're there for you. We miss you not because we expect anything from you dearest, but because we care for you and love you as a friend. Never forget that sweetie.

Take the time you need to regroup, do whatever is good and makes sense to you, and you know we'll be there whenever you need us. In the meantime, know that we send you our warmest thoughts.

Big hugs,

Sophie xxox
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Hello girls,

Well, I must tell you, I had a first-time experience today!!!! And it was great!!! Some of you will laugh their head off, especially Carolyn and Angie I suspect... but today I had my first pedicure! :D:D:D :oops: Geez, my feet have never been so soft nor looked so good! :shock: :shock: My beautician is almost a friend, we get along so well, and she's extremely meticulous, so she did an amazing job. Now all I have to do is hydrate my feet every day and remove the hard spots every week (not sure of the verb I should use here, oops) and my feet will stay that healthy. Wow.

Angie,
Hiya girl! Nah, we don't have a short pet name version for Richard in French. It's just Richard, so no pun here! ;) And no, I didn't ask for your vote silly! ;) Like Carolyn and Lee said, I know the right name will just be obvious once we see him and get to know him. It might very well be a name that's not on our list, happened to lots of people I know. It just reassures me to have a few names in mind... ;) Oh, and thanks for asking about DH; he's doing better!!!! He's been off his painkillers for two days and he's doing great!!! YAHOO! Sorry to hear that work is still so hectic but hey... there's a good side to this; summer will be here before you know it! squeeeeeee! :D

Lee, our hero foster mom!
Geez, those two toddlers sound like a handful! Have they settled a little bit after a day or two with you? I know you've heard it a lot, but kudos to you dear, I really admire what you're doing for those kids. You have a huge heart! THanks for sharing your personal experience with that my dear, it's very touching. Keep us posted about your girly, and have FUN in London!!!! Lucky girl!!!! Anything exciting planned during your stay?

Miracle,
You asked about maternity leave. Since 2006, the law changed in Quebec and we've been experiencing a mini baby-boom since. The new law is absolutely amazing. There are two types of leaves, the maternity leave (depends on your employer) and the parental leave (new law). The hospital will manage that I get 93% of my income for the first 21 weeks I have off (no matter when the baby is born); the amount they give me will vary depending on what the new law gives me. The new law will give me 70% of my income from the moment the baby is born, for 6 months. After that, I'll have 55% of my income for another 6 months. My husband, with the new law, will also have 5 weeks at 70% of his income that he can take at any moment during the 12 months following the birth. He could also choose to share 7 of my weeks at 70% of his salary if he wanted, but we won't do that. So the plan is I'll take 1 month off before my due date (April 3rd officially, but I'll stop working on March 31st and take the rest of the week as overtime, my boss is amazing for that). When the baby is born, DH will take the 5 days his workplace gives him, plus a week from the 5 weeks given by the new law. I'll go back to work on April 6th 2010, but my husband will take his remaining 4 weeks at that time, so that way the transition is smoother for me; I'll leave my baby to my husband, and not to a stranger at a daycare center. So as you can see, we have incredible conditions here, we're quite spoiled, hence the baby boom. My only interrogation is that those percentages are calculated on raw income, before taxes... and nobody can tell me how much money will actually land in my account after all the deductions. So we'll see.

On another note, are you having a little rush before Spring break? I hope you're not having too many exams or papers to prepare. Any improvement with your friend? *hugs*

Carolyn,
Hi there sweetheart! Thanks for asking about DH! He's doing much better! Looks we both have silky legs now, tee hee hee! :D And to answer your question, I'll stop working on March 31st... and time really doesn't fly, unfortunately! :( But at least, with the momentary hectic schedule at work, it seems it passes a bit faster all the same, so no complaints! Anything exciting planned for the weekend sweetie?

Okay, I'm starving, gotta go. Take care ladies!

Kisses,

Sophie xxox
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Angel, I am so sorry, like Sophie I had a big smile when I saw your name, and then seeing your post made me cry for you. I know I have only got to know you a lttle bit so far, but the feelings we feel for others who have similar experiences to us makes us feel so much closer together and the pain I feel for you is no less than if it was one of my close girlfriends.
You know where we are when you are ready to return and I am thinking of you and DH.

Lee XXXXX
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OMG, OMG, OMG!!!! GIRLS!!!!!!!!! you're NEVER going to believe this --- i had the most true-to-life dream last night.......is one that i'll surely NEVER forget!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WE ALL GOT TOGETHER FOR A GIRLY WEEKEND SLUMBER PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (sorry - no babies....they were all left w/ dear dad!!) i vividly remember walking in and being "ok -- where's angel......and mir --- where are you"......i recognized sophie cuz of how tall she is.....and our queen beck -- well, because she is our queen!!!!! carolyn -- met you too!!!!! and lee..........it was AMAZING!!!!!!!! :P the only "bad" part of it is that i got there (it was on your side of the pond -- don't recall the specifics of geography -- just that i took the trip OVER there!!!) anyway --- i get there to notice that the one fricken thing i forgot was my CAMERA!!!!!!!! i was very upset :( but it did not deter the fun to be had!!! it was so cool...............................

ooohhh soph ---- you guys ARE lucky over there when it comes to maternity leave!!!!! :shock: do you know what our laws are?? mom gets 6 weeks @ 100% pay/or not (that's actually determined by company you work for - what kind of benefits they offer - whether you work full or part time - etc.....not everybody gets pay) but regardless of the pay --- mom is expected to return back to work after 6 weeks.....you can take up to 12 weeks -- but only paid for first 6....so if you elect to take 12 -- you have zero income!!! :shock: and who can afford to do that????? wow..... i'd get knocked up too!!!! oh wait --- that's what i've been TRYING to do for the last 5 years now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :evil: as for your pedi..... nope -- i'm not a pedi girl!!! i'm SO low maintenance for stuff like that.... i'm more of a jeans and t-shirt kind of gal....i have long curly hair that the reason i leave it long is so that i can pull up into a tail and get out of my face AND i don't have to go to hair dresser but a couple times a year!!! i absolutely HATE spending on money on stuff like that!!! i've never colored it -- again, don't want the maintenance......for a period of time in my life when i worked for this really upscale dept store (well -- i worked at the corporate headquarters as an auditor) -- i did the fake nail thing as i was wearing skirt suits, heals daily.....and i'd be lying to say i didn't like it -- but it was a real chore for me to keep it up!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i've had a couple of pedi's -- but not part of my normal regime!!!

mir........poor sweet girl -- sorry you had a bad yesterday :cry: still sending lots and lots of hugs and prayers to your friend.....hopefully today being friday will brighten your spirits a bit!!!

carolyn.....fine....you need a pass for next week eh?????? why missy?? where are you off to??? what could possibly be better than hanging w/ us??? ok fine -- your list is endless!! ha, ha!!!

lee --- have you rec'd the call yet asking you to keep the lil ones?? just wondered if you've stood your ground.....gosh -- saw your ticker and can't believe only 11 days til FET!!!!!! WOO-HOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beck.....thinking of you :)

angel -------------- ((((((((ALL MY LOVE)))))))))

so today is friday ---- TGIF!!!!!!!!!!!!! had my employee review yesterday -- and just like i said, lots of rainbows and sunshine blown up the bum!!! my boss just LOOOOVVVEEEESSSS me......is very cool, don't get me wrong -- just wish she'd actually come thru on some of the promises she makes! oh well....guess i should feel lucky to have a job that i really enjoy as much as i do!! :wink: nothing much on my weekend agenda -- have loads of paperwork to pick back up where i left off for the adoption stuff...........so i'll probably do that.......and weather is supposed to suckity-suck-suck-suck, so i won't feel like i'm 'trapped inside' on a nice weather weekend!!!!!

am hoping to be in/out today...boss actually held true to her schedule today and has taken the day off -- so it should be fairly relaxed (i can play catch up!!!)

LOVE & HUGS TO ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!
:-) Angie
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YES YES YES OK YES and YES again I have had the call, can we keep them!!!!!! NO NO NO NO and No again says my head, well maybe maybe maybe says my heart!!! :roll: :roll:

I don't know what to do now, I am going to make DH make the decision because he will say an absolute no and I can't do that because I am too soft, I know in my head I need to relax and chill and be stress free and have lots of sleep time etc etc I am very lucky enough to be able to have the chance to do so during my 2ww but they have wriggled under my skin all ready and I am kinda thinking of ways we can manage it so I am still rested but I am going to put myself and my baby to be first, probably for the first time ever in my life!!!!! :lol: :lol:

DH will have to decide tho and make the call because I will chicken out and falter and agree and say yes they can stay..........
All ready in my routine now and got littlest guy to bed in 20 mins last night instead of the one and a half hours it has taken so far, Awwwwww they are going to have to go through a move and probably have to start all over again with their feelings of fear, stress and worry about what the big adults they are living with are like and will I get told off if I spill my drink or wet my pants, can't bear to see the rabbit in the headlights look on their tiny faces when they think they have done something wrong......

So Angie what did we all look like in your dream?? What did we do?? Perhaps you travelled in your dream and really did come and see us!!! Awesome dream would love to have one!!!

Sophie are you now converted I love having my feet done, we are going shopping in London, I made a deal with girly after the shoplifting episode, we agreed IF she behaved herself at school and did not get into any more trouble elsewhere and carried on as she was going at home with us and did not spend her clothing allowance I would double her clothing allowance
and I would take her shopping in London, WELL she has only gone and stuck to the deal so now I have to double her allowance!!! Good job I have been putting it by weekly just in case she managed it!!!
So we are having a weekend of shopping and sightseeing, really looking forward to it..........

Becky how are you doing??

So off now may catch up later if not then have a good weekend if I don't see you till monday

Lee xxxx

Carolyn so where you off to next week how lonnnnnng!!! Your going to be away ages!!! So hows the new glasses are you now looking sexily intellectual???!!!! I forgot is DH away at the moment? I can't remember when you ssaid he was going???

Miracle how are you doing today, still lots on your plate at the moment, hope your keeping your chin up.............
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Angel ....

I am so sorry sweetheart. I was so shocked to see ur posting an then so sad ... to say i know exactly how you feel is an understatment, but i do hun ... all of a sudden u get ur BFP an ur too scared to be on cloud 9, then when u finally give in to it ... ur slaped in the face.

I stayed away (an still do) from the boards for so long, i couldnt deal with everyone getting on with their own lives when mine had come to such an abrubt halt (i hope u ladies dont take offence at that) everything and everyone carried on as normal while i was stuck in this bubble of hurt and desperation to have my baby back. I really dont know how i managed to get thru some days. And some days still hurt hun .... but u learn to deal with them. Just last week i had a really bad day an broke down in work, my first period after the m/c had arrived, and altho i was expecting it, i didnt expect the wave of emotion that came with it. I sobbed while one of the girls at work here held me ...

What im saying hun is that there will be days to come that u will want to curl up an tell everyone to piss right off - and thats ok (except dont tell them to piss off to their face lol) its ok to be angry and hurt an upset, its ok to have all these feelings. Its a normal greiving process one which sadly u have to come thru .... i promise u that you will start to feel better - wheather it be in a week or in a year .... time is a great healer. (i bet ur fed up of people saying that to u too) i hated it when people used to say i to me ... i didnt want to heal, i wanted to greive for my baby an i was going to do it my way an my way only, and i did .... ive greived, ive screamed, ive sobbed, ive thrown things, ive lost my temper - but best of all - ive talked about it, to whoever will listen. Mostly DH, he knows all my feelings about it, he is the one that u can trust hun, he is going thru this with you ....

If u want to talk any time sweetheart i am here .... i can listen to anything hun. Im so sorry his had to happen to you .... sending much love to you and DH xxxxxx

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Angel so sorry to hear your news i have been there myself and know that it hurts like hell but like becky said time is a great healer but i always think of my lil 1 all the time and always will hugs to you and dh we are here for you when you need us take care

Hi to everyone else i always read but dont have much time to post with work and everything and have had to have this wk off work has ruby has been ill with gastroentriritis and then i caught it but were both better now will do personels when i get time

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hey ladies!!!!

long time, no speak!! first of all, i am so sorry ive not been posting. things have been more than manic here and i've been struggling to juggle and deal with everything. i have stuck my head in every now and then to read but have just not posted. part of me even felt its been too long since i last posted and nearly didnt post tonight!! hope you all forgive me!!

anyway, just wanted to say sorry to angel and welshbugger for everything you've gone through and are still going through. lots of kisses xxxxxxxxx

pma, carolyn, mir, angel, lara, beachbaby, sara, ICSI, anyone else ive missed - lots of hugs and kisses to you too and hope you are all well. xxx

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Just thought I would pop in and say Hi,

sending you lots of love and thoughts over our cyber space world Angel

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