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Hi Lee
Yes I am here - just trying to catch up !!!

Excellent news on the linning and so glad your feeling better :D

Had a great time - not much pampering done but lots of exercise - got some new muscles .. but it hurts!!!! - had a shitsua (sp??) masage - that was amazing .. did spinning.. trampolining .. fit ball.. aqua and lots of sitting and chatting ... oh and eating !!

Not l,ong till wednesday :lol:
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Sounds like you had a fab time, will definately have to go pay champneys a visit me thinks hmmmmmmmmm!!

I love all those classes I thought fitball was a nice easy option when I watched it untill I had a go, OMG it was such hard work, but so much fun!!! How was your mum, was it nice to catch up??
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I know weds is flying quickly towards me believe it or not I thought it would really drag now but it isn't, thankyou feeling much better now, still not 100% but nearly there, just relaxing now until wednesday, not doing anything much. Lining should be even better by weds hopefully a nice big spongy cushion for them to implant just nicely with a bit of luck!!!

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hiya all :lol:

Had a quick chat with Lee last night as she stalked me on the boards as was catching up :D

Mir - so glad your friend is recovering - it must have been amazing to talk to her - and for her to be able to hear your voice - such good news. You are also too hard on yourself - those results for your coursework are excellent girly 0- give yourself some credit ... big pat on the back to our girly swot :lol: :lol: :lol:

Sophie - hope you can sort out the working from home scenario .. and an extra peek at beany in the week too - so excited for you - just remind me of your due date !!!

Angel/Becky - thinking of you ladies xxx

Lee - hope you and DH had a relaxing weekend with some time spent together :wink: :wink: Not long at all till you will be PUPO - its wednesday isn't it ??? when do the defrost the embies and how long does it take ??

Ang - you ae sure working too hard - tell that boss of yours you need some friends time!!! - any update on the adoption front ???

Not sure whats wrong with me today - keep thinking about our treatment and swinging from excitement that its happening again to being petrified about how I will cope if it doesn't work - know its all natural feelings but been a bit teary today .. which is worrying DH too - heyho back to work tomorrow to see what SH1t has hot the fan :roll: :roll:

Catch all you lovely ladies tomorrow xxxxx
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Hi guys...

Everyone must be busy. I have been swamped at work again. I have homework to finish tonight. I am beat... :roll: O WELL!!!

Hey Wishfull, nice having you back. Your feelings, are normal dear. I know I havent been through it yet, but I am very sure your feelings are normal. Dont worry, everything will be fine. Take a deep breath. Thank you for your kind words. I am trying so very hard in school. I hope your first day back was an easy one for you.

Hi Lee!!! How are you? WOW...one more day till your embies will start thawing. I am praying that all four thaw perfect and the two make beautifuly to 5 day blasts!!! :D

like I said, have been so busy at work. Just want to pop in and say hello. Was hoping to see Angel has been around. Maybe she is lurking...her and Becks!!! Hope you girls are ok. BIG HUGS!!!

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Good morning

How is everyone, very quiet here at the moment all busy with our lives. My embies are being thawed today Carolyn and as long as everything is ok they are going back in tommorrow at about 215. I have been a bit emotional as well the last couple of days and how funny but was really tearful on Sunday too perhaps there was a full moon LOL!! Pressure is getting to me a bit I keep having these awful dreams with the doc telling me they have no embies for me, am keeping myself busy to try and keep my mind off it all :evil:

On a nicer note did a photoshoot yesterday :lol: :lol: well kind of!! Our fostering team want to promote our respite service we offer to parents of disabled kids to give the parents a break they need to recruit more carers as there are only a few of us so me, mum and the little one we respite for has gone in the magazine as a day in the life of........!! Hope they got my good side!!! Would you know it had a humungous spot come up on my face a few days before so as I am incredibly vain they only got side shots of me!!!!

Thankyou Miracle lets hope it all goes perfect, are you feeling more awake now did you get the homework done??

Hi to everyone else hope you are all ok, right off to clean the rest of the house now I will just not relax for the next few days if I am looking at dust did I tell you girls they call me the queen of clean!! bit OCD I fear!!! I can see dirt where no one else can!!! :roll: :roll: in fact I can see a bit winking at me now so am off to get my feather duster :shock:

Hope you guys all have a good day see ya later

Lee xxx
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Hey guys,

Glad to see some people around!

lee,
Hi sweetie, this is one of the big days! :D Your embies will wake up today, yahoo! I'll keep everything crossed for you. Great news about the photoshoot, lol about the zit! Gee, I'm so glad to be ridden of these for now... sure they will come back in full force this summer with the hormonal changes! About your embies, well just trust them, they will find their way. During my last FET, the embryologist told me that my embies were only medium quality because they had a couple of dead cells (died in the freezing-thawing process). I still became pregnant and my boy is in perfect shape. So just have faith in your little fighters, and let them do the work! :D *hugs*

Carolyn,
Great to have you back, so glad you enjoyed your spa!!!! Did your SIL and mother have fun? Or was it your MIL? Sorry you had an icky day yesterday... I wanted to write but got trapped by work... I did send you lots of good vibes though. Trying again is never just happy-go-lucky-easy, there are good and bad days. You're not freaking about every single little detail like a first timer, but you're still going through an emotional journey. I really hope this is your time sweetie; I'll keep sending tons of baby dust! :D You asked about my due date: May 2nd.

Miracle,
Hi babe! So great to hear about your friend's recovery, she's a real trooper! She's lucky to have a friend like you! No wonder you're tired sweetie, with work and school and your friend! *hugs* Yet you still manage to get everything done, kudos to you, it says loads about your inner strength. I hope you had a great weekend; how are the doggies? My doggies are doing great; it's been easier to walk them now that the snow has melted a little bit and we can mostly walk on the pavement. we've been working on eating these past few days, and we really, really wait until their energy is very calm-submissive before we give them food. It's nice to hear some munching now, they're eating much slower.

As for me, well I had a peculiar weekend. I exchanged a few tricky emails with my mother and the dialogue was really difficult. She's in the orthodox church and it's become the center of her life for the past 5 years or so. She's very involved in it and, being a psychiatrist (medical training), she's also been writing about bio-ethics. Some of you may remember the day my mother compared IVF to abortion because embryos are destroyed in the process, not to mention human interference with a process that should be God's work only (and yes, told me to my face and said I should consider adoption instead).

When I miscarried last year, she asked if we had chosen a name for the baby because she wanted it to be named during a ceremony. Given that it died at 7 weeks, we had no name, so she asked if she could choose one for that purpose and, given that I was still adapting to the whole thing and she lives in Maryland anyway, I just told her to do what she wanted. I thought it would be a one-time thing, ya know? I never gave it another thought, until...

On Saturday, she casually dropped at the beginning of her email that there had been a memorial ceremony and that of course my deceased baby had been named in it. I told her that I wasn't expecting that kind of reminder and that the experience was not pleasant. She replied that she was sorry that she had hurt my feelings... but added that she had welcomed that baby into her heart the second it had been conceived, that she'd been praying for it every single day ever since, lighting a candle for it every weekend, and that it was named in every mourning ceremony she attended. And she said that she wouldn't abandon it.

I still don't know how to define my profound uneasiness with this... but in a way I feel like I've been robbed of something. Like she took my deceased baby and made it hers in a way. I mean, I appreciated her mourning the loss with me when I told her about it, but this... I find that behavior quite extreme... at least she agreed not to mention it ever again, but still it's been said and I won't forget that my mother "interacts" with my deceased baby once a day! It feels really weird. And mind you, she's doing it for herself, and for the baby's "soul", I wouldn't even be surprised that she had it baptized according to the orthodox rites but didn't tell me. It really feels like she's invaded a very private episode in my life, and yet there's nothing I can do about it. She has the right to mourn according to her beliefs...

I took the occasion to tell her that we chose not to have our son baptized because we don't want to impose any religion on him. If DH agrees, we would do a universal ritual during a family gathering and give our son a universal blessing. We want to expose him to several religious philosophies and spirituality in general, and let him choose, if he chooses, what spiritual path feels best for him. I specifically told my mother that I didn't want to discuss this, that I was just informing her, but of course she still wrote about how sad it made her feel, that she was sure I would take excellent care of him medically but wouldn't let him decide whether or not he should see a pediatrist, so it made no sense that I would let him decide for his eternal soul, etc.

So it took several emails for her to finally accept that, unless I clearly asked for her opinion or advice, she wouldn't give it. I don't mind her having an opinion, whatever it is. I mind her voicing it when I'm not asking for it and my choices are made, and I mind her using strong words like abortion and eternal soul, see what I mean? It was quite a saga and I'm glad that it's over for now. The woman left when I was 4 years old and we've been corresponding on a steady basis only since last June! All my life she had been a very unstable and toxic element in and out of my life since then. It's her last (fourth!) marriage and the orthodox faith that seemed to stabilize her a bit, but I see that her nature is still there. So she has to learn her place. Geez...DH has never met her, and doesn't want to unless he absolutely has to... he considers her an extremist and fanatic, and he's not far from the truth I think. Like him, I actively avoid discussing with extremists, no matter what the subject is, because there's just no use, there's no flexibility.

On a happier note, we had the ultrasound yesterday! The baby has turned and chances are that he'll stay in that good position. Everything is still normal, but we were a bit surprised by his percentile... 20!!! :shock: The margin of error is quite big, the centile is only used to detect extremes (like a reeeeeally small or big baby), but being so tall and DH too, I was expecting a bigger number. Right now, his weight was estimated at 2kg (4.4 pounds), and they said the baby would weigh around 6.4 pounds if I deliver at 40 weeks (so it's a good weight, but not a big baby, hence the 20th centile). So he surprised us, but there's nothing to worry about; one growth spree and all the numbers could change radically. I've been told I shouldn't complain, because it looks like he'll be easy to push out! ;) We got amazing pics of his face; one really looks like he fell asleep in a blanket, I'll put them on photobucket and email the link if some people are interested.

Still no news of the photograph... :( can't wait to see those samples! Still no news of my boss either... can't wait for him to call and tell me whether or not I can be off the hook!

Take care ladies, and have a great day,

Sophie xxox
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Hello girlies!!!

Lee: keep us posted on the embies! I am sure they are thawing out perfectly!!!! WOW...YOu will be PUPO tomorrow. How exciting. Time sure did fly. I am still pretty tired, I have trouble sleeping at night. I did manage to get my homework done thought!!! :wink:

hi Sophie!! I wish I had something to say about your situation with your mother. I am sorry. I totally understand that you feel she has taken you angel baby and made it hers. Kind of weird...I think what you and your DH decided for your baby about religion is awesome. How many people get to do the homework and actually choose what they believe?? Most people are brought into the world and their religion is already chosen for them. And if they chose not to practice that particular religion, all heck breaks loose. I was raised Roman Catholic. Although I am grateful for my parents (mainly my father) for raising me with Jesus there are some things that I do not agree with the Catholic Church. I think you and your DH are going to be great parents and you are doing what is right for you and Dh and Baby Boy!!! Try not to let her upset you.

YES PLEASE...give me the link...I wanna see!!!! Love me some babies!!! :lol: I wonder when you will get the pics back from the shoot! Your boss needs to get back to you too...doesnt he know we are all waiting?? :lol: :lol: Thanks for your coments about me. That is very sweet. Sometimes I feel like I dont have any inner strength!! LOL I dont sleep well at night. I might get 2-3 hours of sleep a night. So I am pretty tired. I hate insomnia!!! :twisted:

Ok ladies....hope to hear from the rest of you soon!! Take care!!!
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evening girlies :lol:

Lee - all the luck in the worl for tomorrow I will be thinking of you at around 2ish - sending you lots of sticky baby dust and huge hugs ((()))
I laughed about the zit and photo though - always the way !!!

Sophie - sorry you have such a tough relationship with your mother - I think the distance is obviously a good thing .. when people become fanatical about religion I think they tend to lose focus on reality and whats important .. whats inportant is that you and Dh will bring your baby up in a loving stable envronemnt no matter what his religion is ... oooo 2nd May .. will be here before you know it :lol: - any word from the boss yet ????

Mir - 2 hours sleep a night - god girly no wonder you are always wacked :roll: - i need 7 hours minimum to function properely - i am not good without sleep ! hope you have been studying hard this week xx

Angel/Becky/Angie - hugs to my dear friends xxx

well I think I have worms ... I just can't stop eating and the crappier the food the more I want it :lol: :lol: - am puttting it down to hormones ?????
Crap at work - today they have made a colleague who I work very closely with redundant - last in first out and I am basically goig to have to do most of his job as well :twisted: - sign of the times I feel ... oh well PMA I will be on maternity leave by October and so won't need to worry for 12 months !!!!

Lee - just one more dose of PMA and sticky abby dust for you my love xxxx
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Hello ladies,

Hope you are all well. I'm terribly sorry but I still haven't caught up with everything going on. So, please forgive me if my posts are a bit outdated.

Lee - I gather that you are having ET today. Wow! Time sure has flown hasn't it? Sending you loads of luck and sticky vibes (sure is windy enough for all these positive vibes to reach you from London!!). Hope you've planned enough things to keep you happy and busy during the 2ww.


Carolyn - I'm not sure where you are in your tmt, but have you already started the pills for your next cycle. The clinic has found you a donor, right? Sounds like you had yet another pampering day. And with all that exercise you do, surely eating some unhealthy stuff shouldn't matter. I'm with you on the work front. Its :evil: . But at the end of the day, I'm just grateful that I still have one in this situation. Sucks that the employers know that too and will try and stretch you beyond limits.

Miracle - how is your studying going? I just don't know how you manage a full time job plus studies. Really admire you for that. And you also manage to come here and be there for everyone. Love you girl! :D Hopefully your furbabies are behaving themselves. And how is DH and the job situation?

Angie - How are you girl? I've missed you and your crazy posts. Hows work? Is DH getting used to being at home? And whats happening with the adoption stuff?

Sophie - how are you keeping. You're getting closer to meeting you little boy. Is the nursery complete and all the baby stuff sorted? Just did a quick skim back and read about the exchange you had with your mum. I'm sorry about that. Don't really know what to say. Relationships can be quite complicated.

Becky - how are you my friend? Are you gearing up towards your next round?
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As for me, I've become a lot stronger emotionally since the mc. It does get better each day. Initially it used to pain me to think that I should have gone for my scan today, or I would have been 8 weeks today….etc. I've now stopped doing that as I realised I was only hurting myself. There is no point, the baby was there but its gone. It may sound cold to some people, but that’s been my way of dealing with it. I grieved for a while, but realised that I just need to let go. Initially it helped to throw myself into work, did long hours and switched off my wireless so that I wasn't always on the internet. If/ when I had time after work, I would go to the gym. I must say that I've not managed the exercise bit that well :(. I've got weight from the tmt in Nov and then the early pregnancy weight so loads of weight to shed. I think that’s going to be my next goal - lose weight! So anyway, I do feel better able to cope with life now. The mc got me thinking and I realised I didn't want to shut myself from everyone around me, and I didn't want my life to revolve around IF and tmt. I was becoming too obsessed with all that. I still want a baby more than anything else in the world, but I am now taking a different approach. I don't know when the next round of tmt will be. When we do go for it, I'll put my mind into it whole heartedly. Until then, I am enjoying the things I used to. I'm going out, meeting people, dressing up (even though I've become a fat lump!), laughing……well, you get it. Its amazing when I realise I haven't felt like this in 2 years. I've been living under a cloud of doom and gloom, and it doesn't have to be like that. Sure IF takes its toll on all of us, and the pain never goes, but I'm learning not to make it the focal point of our lives. Its not really completely simple. I still find it very difficult to go out and meet with friends who have kids, and it hurts when people ask stupid questions about why we still don't have any kids. But I think that the more I face people head on, the better I'll be able to cope with things.

Ok, I think I've been rambling on so I'll stop here now.
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Just re-read what I wrote. I hope I haven't offended anyone :oops: . I was simply talking about my personal way of dealing with things. Having said that I do respect the fact that everyone deals with things in their own way. Theres no right or wrong to it. I was just expressing my thoughts.
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Hi Everyone, Just a quick one.

lee, good luck today, got everything crossed all goes well. take it easy.

Angel, Hi nice to hear from you, sorry about the mc, glad your managing to pick yourself up and living again. I agree with you on letting go and moving on, far better for your well being. take the positive from it as you now know you can get pregnant, it will happen for you. Have some fun. In response to people asking, if you can face it tell them its because you have recurrent micarraiges, guarenteed they will never ask you again!!!

Sophie, sorry you have issues again with your mum, My DH family are quite religious but not my DH, we have learnt to have thick skin, causes undue stress and heartache for my DH but we get by. Glad all is well with your liitle one.

Hi to everyone else, carolyn, wishful, becky, rachel etc.

got to go babies calling.

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OMG!!!! When I signed on and saw you posted Angel...I was so happy!!!!!!!!!!!! I am so very happy to hear from you. I am always thinking of you and hoping you are doing better each day.
You sound like you are really in a better place. Not to say, you wont have bad days. I dont think you offended anyone by your post. I think it was very well written and I think you have a wonderful outlook. Very positive. And that is so important. I know I get negative sometimes with this whole IF thing, it is easy to go into a slump of gloom and doom. It takes a stronger person to try and be positive and live your life. I am so proud of you Angel. And you know, whenver you are having a bad day, you can come on here and tell us. Anytime!!!! We are here for you lovey!!! Oh, about people asking when you and DH will have a child, now I got sick of the questions, so I make them feel dumb :wink: I tell them when they can give me $15,000 for InVitro...you should see all the mouths drop...I know some people dont like to tell people they are struggling with IF but I am over it. If they ask a personal question, they get a personal answer!! :lol:

Trust me Angel...Working full time and taking two classes isnt that tough. I wish I had the determination to take more classes at a time. But I know I would get stressed out. oh, DH starts a new job Monday!! We are very excited. It will be a stable job again, so things are looking up in that department...finally...

I hope you will be able to still come around...we miss you so much...

Love you Angel!!!
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Hello loveys!!!!

BEACH!!! So nice to see you. I cant wait for you to post a picture of those sweet babies! I want to see how big they are...

Angie, where the hell are you? Now, I am getting tired of this work crap interferring with your posting here!!! :wink: How are you...and DH?

Wishfull, how are you? You still kind of emotional? Dont you worry about eating crap food. We are all entitled once in a while. How is work? Still really stressfull?

Lee...so thinking of you lady!!!! I cant wait to hear the great news of you being PUPO!!!!! sending you tons of sticky baby dust love!!!!

Thinking about you Becky...

Sophie, how are ya? Any news on the boss...pictures...?? Dont forget to send me the link for your U/S pics!!!!

Not much going on for me... I am just beat girls. I am so tired. I feel like I could sleep for a whole day..............but other then that I am great!! :wink:
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