NOV/DEC 2009 -- Cycle Group

[albany07]

Honey34bunny - I just saw your post after I posted mine. Go ahead, eat the whole Pannetone - just drop the milk and pair it with a bottle of Rum. I wish you the best and miracles do happen! On the twoweekwait.com website I mentioned before, they have many stories of people getting pregnant between IVF's or after stopping IVF all together. Keep the faith!

[katie99]

Franny -Aww honey, Im sorry. it just plain sucks, I was canceled twice in a row due to those damn dominant follies! I dont see why you werent switched to antagonist this time? I just did antagonist in Sept/Oct
for the first time my stimming went perfect (10 days) poor responders dont do well with lupron it tends to over suppress us. Antagonist uses ganirelix instead, which targets directly to your pituitary gland so its immediate. Plus its less shots, but the down side is ganirelix is more expensive (108 per pre filled syringe) Oh, franny I'm pissed off for you!
I hate to see you delayed again. I thought after my 2nd cancellation that I'd never have a normal cycle, but switching to antagonist did it for me, i mean I was bfn, but I did have a normal stim. (for the first time!)
Please dont give up! Try the antagonist, i just wish they had switched you this cycle. OK then, expect to see me crashing jan ( I already lurk there for gi, j&c, ray of sunshine) Big HUGS to you my friend!- xoxo

cheeky -Sorry that the 2ww is killing you! Is pregynyl like an hcg booster? Is it considered luteal support? I had to do those last time, 4 shots, 3 days apart starting after ER -So not fun! hang in there my friend, you are getting there!

Syanna -crossed for stims!

2010 -Yay PUPO! wishing you sticky thoughts!

Sarahruth-usual stim is 9 to 14 days - Good luck!

hugs &prayers to us all! xoxo

[katie99]

Honeybunny -Aww hon, I'm so sorry! I've had two bfn, so I know how it feels - - you just be good to yourself right now, rest heal recover - I hope that you will find the strength to try again - (((HUGS))))

[HONEY34BUNNY]

Albany07: You know what is sad is that our health ins covers ivf 100% and meds i pay about 150 a month for my bh just does not want to go through all the ups and downs again this was my 3rd failed ivf cycle i failed iui and misscarried when i became pregnant last september on our own. then decided to go to the doctors to see what was up that was actually my 2nd misscarry. We are both 40 and my bh does not want to be too old. Me since it is all covered for 5 years i would like to keep trying i just dont know how to convince my bh this is what i want to do There are so many other people who dont even have the options to keep going and we do and my bh will want to give as soon as i say sorry test was a big fat negative. i just feel like crying. besides my hormones are still loopy my beta was a 5 what a number progesterone was a 20.7 still dont get any of this . sorry i needed to vent. Still wanting to continue the journey.

[jenice]

Turtle- I also have been cancelled x 2. I also had to do the antagonist protocol. I couldn't suppress on lupron. I'm a high responder so this wasn't the best protocol for me cause was high risk for OHSS. I think you start on stims for a couple of days then start to get suppressed on ganarelix. So it is a shorter cycle and not dragged out like with lupron. It also has less needles Ganarelix is more expensive though if you don't have insurance.

Sorry to hear about your cancellation, it is very frustrating I remember all I wanted to do was @ least finish a cycle. On my #3 IVF cycle they tried to cancel me AGAIN !!!!!! They called my RE and they decided to continue the cycle and then I had my BFN I did my FET with 2-cell and 4-cell transfer and my HPT are coming out +. I definitely think it is a trial and error process with the meds getting the right dosages and meds. Some people have no problems but I know my body doesn't usually like to cooperate. I even had a post allergic reaction after my BFN to the progesterone in sesame seed oil. It was 5 days later after I stopped the med and large welts all OVER MY ASS!!!!! I really felt defeated after my post allergic reaction but now I've got a + and am glad we continued with IVF. It is a hell of a journey though and I wanted to quit many of a time. Give yourself sometime and go out and have fun enjoy the break from IVF now so you are mentally ready for when you have to do it again.

[2010]

HONEY34BUNNY - so sorry to hear this, please stay strong!

[me2009]

franny...

big hug to you too!!

wonder if they could go in and just get the big follie and at least try with that one??


keep us posted on what the re says!!


chin up

[ashleyncsu77]

Hi everyone - just a couple quick personals and then an update.....

Franny - so sorry to hear about your cancellation. You have been such a positive support for everyone on this board. I just know it will work for you if you try the new protocol. I may be switching to the Jan/Feb board soon since that is when I will be doing my FET. So maybe we'll be able to stay in touch there!

HONEY34BUNNY - no words can help - I know. I'm so sorry for your BFN.

sarah_ruth78 - I'm on day 9 of stims and they say 8-14 is normal so you are probably right on track.

albany07 - I saw your picture on the 2WW site. So great to put a face with the name. Thanks for sending the PGD article - very interesting.

AFM - I went in today for my second b/w and u/s on stims. I am on day 9 and things seem to be going well. Today they counted 10 on one side and 11 on the other. Many are in the 14 range with a few smaller ones at 8 and one big one at 21. The nurse called a few minutes ago and said that I should reduce my Follistim and will be going in daily. She said that they are hoping to get 15 at ER which will probably be Thursday or Friday. While I am excited by the numbers I'm still trying to be realistic about the PGD. I have a son and have had 3 miscarriages so the odds aren't great. If we only get a few embryos that fertilize and survive to 5 days it's very possible that none of them will have normal chromosomes and I will have to start all over.

But...... in the spirit of the holidays I'm trying very hard to have a PMA.

katie99 - if you update the schedule this week you can change me to ER 11/26 or 11/27

Ashley

[teachermom]

Hi eveyone,

Just a quick update- I did it! I POAS this morning and it was immediately POSITIVE!! I'm a littlle concerned now though because I started spotting this afternoon. If the HPT was positive, wouldn't it be too late for implantation bleeding?

Franny I am sooooooo sorry. I am so so sorry. I know you're time will come. More later- I promise my friend.

[albany07]

Teachermom - maybe a twin implanting!

[lou71]

franny and Honey34Bunny I'm sooo, sooo, sooo sorry about your cancellation and BFN. Both are equally devastating. I wish you both the best in the future.

teachermom Your post made me immediately smile. Keep us posted on your beta!

[Supergenius]

ET went well today. I am on bed rest "with meals in bed" per the doc for today. now the waiting begins...december 2nd is my first beta. will do personals tomorrow as i'm typing this on my mobile phone.

oh, two embies are all snuggled in, btw.

[claud662]

franny-I'm soooo sorry to hear that you were canceled. I know that devastation and it must hurt so much now Can they switch you to an IUI since you have a nice big follie?

honey34bunny-sorry for your BFN...please keep your head up and get right back in the game!

supergenius-congrats on 2 embies!! My center doesn't do bed rest after ET but when that time comes I may convince my DH that they do!!

teachermom-congrats!!!! The bleeding can definitely still be implantation bleeding!! My gyno actually said the spotting can occur throughout the whole cycle so don't worry!!!

ashley-your numbers sound great!!! My DR also just reduced my follistim to 125 from 150! When I asked the nurse if I was stimming too fast, she said no but didn't have a reason why it was decreased?!?!

albany-I'm not a member of twoweekwait.com but I definitely lurk!! I will officially become a member once I get a BFP!!! I will check your profile later though!!

syanna-good luck tomorrow and hopefully you begin your stims tomorrow night!

[turtle0619]

hi girls!
thank you all so much for your support and thoughts. they mean so much to me. i know you all know how lonely ivf can be, and having you all take time out of your own cycles to think about me really means a lot.
so i went to the RE today...she was really confused how that one follie just jumped so high after only 2 days. she thinks we have to blame it on my endo causing havoc on my overies. its a hard pill to swallow when they say they dont know what happened. she did say it was working better then my 1st cycle and i did have a bunch of follies...they just couldnt wake them up. whatever right? it doesnt matter to me....all i know is it didnt work and i'm pissed. i tried to convince her to let me stim afew more days to see if the others would catch up, but she said if we waited my uterus would be past the point where a transfer would be able to happen. then i tried to convince her to just try for the one dominant one, and she said she felt that with the way it just grew out of control all of a sudden that it was a bad follie (no kidding) and it probably didnt have an egg in it and it wouldnt be worth putting my body though all that for an abnormal follie. (she just shot me down left and right)
soooo we are starting the antagonist protocol (thank you katie and jenice for your info on the protocol) i'm sure i'll have a ton of questions about it.
my RE also said if this doesnt work to maybe start thinking of donor eggs.......OMG!! are you serious?? i never even thought of that...i'm 33 years old, and i'm making follies (not a billion, but not NONE) well...that just made me feel horrible (not to mention it would be impossible because my insurance doesnt cover donors) i feel like i havent even had a chance yet and they are already on the last resort.
i have a million thoughts racing through my head.....sorry to be going off on a tangent that has no end.
sooooo on a positive note i am going to take the advice of a lil birdie and i'm going to trigger tomorrow anyway and then have a fun holiday weekend of gettin it on with DH!!! haha it cant hurt right?? can you imagine if it works?? (yeah right i know...very very LONG shot) but what the hell.....

honey34bunny i am so sorry sweetie! i am crying for you and with you. my heart is breaking. maybe i will see you over in the JAN. boards after the holidays??

nanine i cant believe you POAS!!!! you are sooo brave, but i am just sooooo happy for you!! your post made my heart hurt a little less today. i really hope the spotting goes away soon. you are going to have sooo much to be thankful for this year. love ya!!!

2010PUPO!!!! you go girl!!! let those little embies snuggle in (i think eating a ton of turkey will help!!) rest up and enjoy the thrill of knowing that this is your time!!

claud your follies are growing great!!! it wont be long now....any idea of ER??? grow follies grow (but not out of control)

syanna yay for AF!! good luck tomorrow with your basecheck. i'm hoping the best for you. btw...do you know dr. hill at our clinic?? cause i HATE HIM!! he is not my RE, but this is the 2nd cycle in a row where he has called me to cancel my cycle. i told my RE that i didnt like that man, and never wanted him to call me again. she said that it will be funny when i meet him one day and i have all this hatred for him, and he wont know why this crazy woman wants to kill him! if this next cycle doesnt work i'm thinking of going to a new clinic...i have no idea where to start.

superembies you had your ET today right?? i hope everything went well and you are PUPO right now!!

katie- thank you so much for your words. i know you know what i'm going through, and although it sucks and i wish you didnt know, you have no idea how much it helps having you around. you always make me feel better, and keep me positive. they said they didnt do the antagonist this cycle because i was so young, and they use it as a last resort for woman over 38 (way to make me feel good huh?) i'm just praying it will do the trick. i dont care how old they tell me my body is acting...i just want that damn ER!!

dodo good luck with YOUR ET today too!!! busy day both good and bad around here! sticky embie dust to you!!! hope you are feeling well.

albany you are amazing my dear! thank you so much for everything. i will always be here for you, and cant wait for your BFP!!

alright...everyone else..good vibes all around....what doesnt kill us makes us stronger. i WILL NOT give up!!! i think i'm gonna take some time away from the boards for a while though...ive had IVF consume my life since july, and i think i need to take a step back and clear my head before going forward in jan.
i will be around and i'll be checking my PM's and checking in on everyone, but i think i'm gonna lay low. (even though i'm addicted to these boards) i need to get back to being me again.
i love you all. you are all amazing strong woman![/b]

[kerribell]

honeybunny-I'm sorry to hear of your sad news. Hopefully you'll be able to convince your dh to try again. Just tell him that there and be ups and downs when you raise a child too and this will just be practice for that.