NOV/DEC 2009 -- Cycle Group

[katie99]

Hi everyone -

I had the longest day ever! Up at 4:30 to go to RE, well the weather channel said 1-3 inches of snow - umm nope, try 6-7 . So I have a down the hill type driveway- ugh! the road isnt plowed yet, and i cant get down the driveway. Then it starts sleeting, so I did what any female who has cycled 5 times this year would do - I had some sort of breakdown sitting in the car at the top of the driveway in tears. I left a message at the clinic at 5:45 hysterically crying about the driveway, failed cycles, the fact thay I'm suppossed to see them every day, driving in the snow to u/s a lousy 2 follies! then i went inside & had a cup of coffee ( i needed it) and felt much better, til the efficient nurse called and talked me into driving in or risk losing these follies. Can you say - 3 white knuckle hrs on the highway!

Then when I get there my RE wants to have a chat - are you ready?

1- he says he refuses to give up on me (which made me cry again)
2- that my case is very complicated - gee, really doc?
3-That my ovaries are "odd" because they sometimes dont want to respond, then other times respond too fast. Apparently normal ovaries grow follies at a rate of 2mm per day, mine went from 0 to 20 in just 6 days! And from yesterday to this morning, they hardly grew at all - WTF? And that he cant find a pattern to this response.
4- That he believes even if he cycled me 10 years ago, I would have responded the same way ( except we'd have more eggs)
5- That he was at the RE national conference & came across a study that had 3 pts who responded like me, who had success with something called IVM? he said they all made it to a live birth - but then said that he isnt equipped for it yet - anyone know what this is?

So I'm even more confused now. I have to go tomorrow for yet another u/s I suppose to see what my crazy ovaries decided to do today.
On a high note, he did say that he thinks the 3 at 10mm still have a chance - grow little guys & hurry it up please! So as of today still only 2 at 16 & 20 - it is so frustrating when your body wont cooperate! He thinks trigger tom & ER Sat

I know I said i'll do the list, but I'm sorry, I'm wiped out from today -Did I metion when i came back i had to shovel out the driveway of that wet, heavy type of snow? that was fun

[claud662]

kelly-GL tomorrow!! that is crazy about the mixup-they had an episode on The Practice with that exact situation and the two women were carrying each other's babies!!! CRAZY!!! Follie dust to you

Franny-Glad to hear that you got your pharmacy/meds all straightened out!! That way you don't have to worry about it when you are on vacation!!

Eol-YAH for AF!!! That will be a nice Christmas gift-a BFP!!!

Katie-I've been dying to hear what your RE said this morning after your u/s....I hope it's good news

Syanna-Hope the transfer went well and I hope that you are PUPO!!

Hazel-grow follies grow!! GL tomorrow morning...btw-I also love your name!!!

AFM....it's now the waiting game to hear about my b/w. I am trying so hard not to be discouraged but I can't help it since this is my pattern-start spotting for 3-4 days and then period I am keeping my fingers crossed...

[Skylar]

Syanna: I hope your ER went very well, rest up.
Katie: I really hope everything goes well for you tomorrow, you are truly a beautiful person. You deserve to be happy.
Claud662: I know spotting is scary, but it not over til it over. As for me I will POAS, probably not until Monday, the reason is, they will tell me my results at my job. I want to be well prepare for good or bad news.
hjw: Grow follies grow. I am glad you are doing well.

Afm; just playing the waiting game. I am trying to rest up and not get too stressed a work.[/b]

[claud662]

Katie-it looks as though we were posting at the same time!! I can't imagine what today must have been like but I'm so happy to hear that you have at least another day for the other follies to catch up! That's good news and the fact that your RE is so dedicated to you!

[hjw]

Just a quickie ladies as I'm off to bed (it's only 11.15pm here but I've been feeling wiped out today for some reason).

Katie - honey, I was getting so worried about you, not just in case you'd had bad news from RE but because of you driving 4 hours in that horrible weather. I'm so pleased that RE is not talking cancellation, now we all just have to cross our fingers that the 20mm and 16mm follies settle down for a snooze for a couple of days while the 10mm ones catch up. I'll be thinking of you, try and take some deep breaths and get some rest tonight. Take care on those roads again tomorrow! p.s. sorry, never heard of IVM, but you're not going to need to cycle again anyway (PMA, PMA)!

tc4474 - hurray, you're PUPO! Enjoy, the dreaded 2ww starts here, lol! What was the final grading of your embies? How many did you transfer and how many did you have to freeze?

turtle - I had a funny mental image of your dog walking through the paint and leaving purple doggie pawprints everywhere! Sorry, I know it wouldn't have been at all amusing if it had actually happened! Yay for your 'baby in a box' arriving soon. I get given my drugs as I need them each time I go to the clinic, so it's only at the end of a cycle that I see all the empty packets lined up together and realise quite how much I've gone through. I can't imagine how scary it must have been for the very first cycle to see it arrive all at once!! So, what else did you get in your online shopping fest?

Eol - hello! So pleased to hear that AF arrived and you're getting going on the stims. You're only starting a week behind Katie and I so we're still all pretty close. When is your first scan?

justwannabamom - GL for ER tomorrow, you'll do great! When do you get the results of the ultrasound on your leg/calf? Hope that pain goes away really soon.

claud662 - GL for tomorrow's hormone check, I'm sure it will all be fine.

Thanks for all the good wishes for my u/s tomorrow - I'll report in as soon as I get home!

Night night ladies,
Hazel zzzzzzzzzzz

P.S. Thank you for the lovely comments on my name - I've always liked it (nice to have an unusual name without it being too wacky!!) but I'll have to tell my Mum & Dad that my new cyber-friends approve too!!!

[moorebaby]

Hi everyone -

I had the longest day ever! Up at 4:30 to go to RE, well the weather channel said 1-3 inches of snow - umm nope, try 6-7 . So I have a down the hill type driveway- ugh! the road isnt plowed yet, and i cant get down the driveway. Then it starts sleeting, so I did what any female who has cycled 5 times this year would do - I had some sort of breakdown sitting in the car at the top of the driveway in tears. I left a message at the clinic at 5:45 hysterically crying about the driveway, failed cycles, the fact thay I'm suppossed to see them every day, driving in the snow to u/s a lousy 2 follies! then i went inside & had a cup of coffee ( i needed it) and felt much better, til the efficient nurse called and talked me into driving in or risk losing these follies. Can you say - 3 white knuckle hrs on the highway!

Then when I get there my RE wants to have a chat - are you ready?

1- he says he refuses to give up on me (which made me cry again)
2- that my case is very complicated - gee, really doc?
3-That my ovaries are "odd" because they sometimes dont want to respond, then other times respond too fast. Apparently normal ovaries grow follies at a rate of 2mm per day, mine went from 0 to 20 in just 6 days! And from yesterday to this morning, they hardly grew at all - WTF? And that he cant find a pattern to this response.
4- That he believes even if he cycled me 10 years ago, I would have responded the same way ( except we'd have more eggs)
5- That he was at the RE national conference & came across a study that had 3 pts who responded like me, who had success with something called IVM? he said they all made it to a live birth - but then said that he isnt equipped for it yet - anyone know what this is?

So I'm even more confused now. I have to go tomorrow for yet another u/s I suppose to see what my crazy ovaries decided to do today.
On a high note, he did say that he thinks the 3 at 10mm still have a chance - grow little guys & hurry it up please! So as of today still only 2 at 16 & 20 - it is so frustrating when your body wont cooperate! He thinks trigger tom & ER Sat

I know I said i'll do the list, but I'm sorry, I'm wiped out from today -Did I metion when i came back i had to shovel out the driveway of that wet, heavy type of snow? that was fun

check out this article: http://discovermagazine.com/2009/jun/16 ... f-the-cost

[turtle0619]

katie i am sooo sorry you had such a crappy day. i dont even know what i wouldve done if i had to travel far today. no matter how long i live in new england i will never enjoy driving in snow. it makes me so nervous. so on top of all the other things on your mind i know it was bad. i totally wouldve had a breakdown in my driveway. i'm glad your RE isnt givng up on you, and you will be able to make it to ER!! i'm crossing everything that those 10's catch up!! ((((((((((((((big big hugs)))))))))))))))
oh so i did a google search for IVM and the first page that came up was this website haha if you look to the left under IVF and ICSI the last link is a link about IVM! i didnt read about it yet because i wanted to let you know!
i hope you are warm and trying to stay calm and your puppies are snuggling with you!

justwannab where in ohio do you live? DH's parents live in cincinnati, and we lived in Ann Arbor, mi for 4 years while DH went to UofM! i really liked ann arbor (minus all the drunk frat boys playing beer pong in the streets) but i am an east coast girl. i'm glad i;m not in MI now! i think i read about the embie mix-up...super scary and crazy for both families. good luck tomorrow!! you wont remember a thing!

[tc4474]

Good evening ladies!

Hazel - Good luck on your u/s tomorrow! Trigger will be here before you know it!

Katie99 - I read online somewhere about IVM - In vitro maturation. You may want to google it if you havent. I dont know much about it though. Its got to be somewhat assuring to know that your doc doesnt want to give up on you. I really like my RE, but this office is so big that I'm not much more than a number to them. I hope your commute goes much better tomorrow too. Hang in there. Its amazing how much those follies can change in one day!

Turtle/Franny - Yay for getting your basement painting done as well as the pending baby in a box. I hear what you are saying about the pharmacy and the insurance. I am very thankful that our insurance covers most of 2 cycles, but what a pain in the bum it was for us to get meds and deal with our insurance and pharmacy. It took days to get refills approved of some of the stim drugs and we cut it way too close sometimes. I hope that you have a better experience this time around! It will all be worth it in the end.

Claud662 - Glad you went to see doc today - keep us posted on your news. Staying positive that the spotting was no big deal for you.

AFM - Well, I'm officially PUPO!!! It is such a relief to get to this point. Out of our 9 fert, we had 2 blasts transferred (one 5AA and one 5BA) which I think are good ones?? We had one that would freeze for sure, and two others that they needed another day to see if they would catch up. We'll find out on Friday how many frosties we have.

Do your doctors prescribe valium for your ET's? I had to take one 45 minutes before and it knocked me on my bum!

I have been taking it easy today and now I'm just starting the next phase of waiting.... our beta is scheduled for December 18.

[justwannabamom]

Claud662 hope you spotting quits so you can stop worring about it fingers crossed for your labwork!
Tc4474 congrats on PUPO my RE prescribes valium also
Syanna congats on PUPO!
Katie what a day you have had! Forget about the list you need to relax! Hopefully you will get news tomorrow that those follies evened out I am proof that it can happen! Good luck! Keep us posted.
Hazel GL with your u/s tomorrow
Eol pretty white panties trick works every time. Good luck.
Hjw I am supposed to call my dr tomorrow after I check with RE on what meds I am allowed to take cause my dr wants to put me on meds for sciatic back pain but I didn't want to until RE said ok. I hope it just quits. I can't hardly stand it anymore!
Franny thank god your pharmacy nightmares are over right? I live about 1 hour west of toledo closer to indiana. My RE is in sylvania 1 day a week then ann arbor the other days but all procedures are done in rochester hills. It is quite a drive so we have to get a hotel the night before. There are several office locations for IVF michigan but they all only do the procedures here in rochester.
Anyone else I missed GL to you all as well!

[HONEY34BUNNY]

Well ladies unbelievable time i have had well come to find out i was pregnant i m/c the day after thanksgiving now this was all after 5 days prior the re telling me i was not pregnant. i just dont get it went to dr to verify m/c they said yes my levels dropped well on a good note we are going to a different re filling out there paperwork now. my bh is determined now to move forward no matter our age. i am thankful it was really hard the day after thanksgiving though i could not believe the pain i was in. my mom is a nurse not always a good thing she wanted to know everything that was happening i was tired and in pain and me and my bh had cried and needed time to put things in perspective of what to do. BH did not want to move forward when we were told test was negative. I am just happy to be moving forward with a new RE I will keep everyone updated. And hope to move to the january board now but i will keep up on this board you gals have all been great.

[syanna]

Hi ladies. This morning I transferred 2, Day 2, 4-cell embabies. Again, it was difficult for him (Dr Hill) to put them in because of some kind of curve to my uterus. Laying there, all cold, legs spread, a guy shoving metal things up me, bladder about to explode.. not good at all. But finally they injected my babies in (seen it on the u/s, so amazing!) now I'm just crampy and tired. Took tomorrow off to rest. I really hope and pray that this is my time. I will talk u ladies later when I'm feeling a but better.

[justwannabamom]

Hunny34bunny so sorry about the m/c but very glad to hear you found a new RE and are back to it! Good luck!

[BRMommy2B]

Hi Ladies,

Sorry I have been somewhat MIA. I've been working long and late at work, and it seems like there is not much to report when going through an FET cycle.

I'm excited for all the PUPOs and stimmers, and my heart goes out to those who have had bad results. It's such a miserable thing, and there's nothing anyone can do, but just know that most of us here know what you're going through!

Oh, and about the link to the IVM article earlier on page 78, it's so unreal to read about the dramatic descriptions the general media describes us poor IVF women as having to go through. But I guess it's true!

AFM: I go in on Friday and Saturday mornings for ultrasounds (my only two of this cycle), and if all looks good then we'll have the thaw on Tuesday and ET on Wednesday the 16th. We're a little stressed knowing that our one little frostie may not make the thaw. Wish me luck!

[sarah_ruth79]

I will come back for personals later. Transferred 1 blast today that was not affected by CF. I think they are freezing one non-affected blast, one carrier blast and 3 that need to be rebiopsied but all made it to blast. The others of our 12 either didn't make it to blast or had cf so we aren't going to be freezing them. I was very frustrated with the re today, he wasn't one we had met before, because the way he presented the info was very confusing. it was a little dramatic. anyway, i am just resting up but honestly i have no idea why but i don't think its going to work... i mean there isn't any issue, i think i have just been sort of in a bad mood about it and generally pesimistic. maybe its all the drugs...beta will be 12/21 although the nurse gave me some tests and said i could test next saturday. how early did you guys test after 5dt?

[claud662]

Hey ladies...I hate for this to be my morning post but I think its over for me this cycle my spotting has gotten heavier and more rust colored...I will wait till I get the call later this afternoon to see if my levels dropped but I'm feeling doomed...
Question-when can I begin my FET after I get my af?