NOV/DEC 2009 -- Cycle Group

Discussion forum for those particularly interested in IVF and embryo transfer including frozen embryo transfer.
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sarah_ruth79
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Post by sarah_ruth79 »

Julia- I am so sorry about your mole removal. I had one a year ago and it did hurt (mostly because it was on my back so i couldn't help but stretch it a little). Hope you feel better soon, glad ot hear its not anything they are super concerned about.

Katie- Thank you so much for the boost! I dont know why I am so down. From the chart you posted looks like testing tonight would be way too early! Maybe tomorrow?
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Post by lou71 »

Hi All,

Just got back from a week in Vegas. Boy do I have some stories! It was great to get IVF off my mind for a bit. But now, back to reality.

I'm at work so I haven't been able to get caught up on the posts from the past week. I'll have to catch up on personals later.

Kelly-- I'm so sorry for your news. I know that must be heartbreaking. But the girls are right, don't give up all hope. I don't think 10-12 cell embryo's sound that bad, especially if they're still growing. Slow growing is still growing, right? And transferring three will increase your chances. I know the odds aren't what you'd hoped, but there's still a chance. Let us know how it goes. I'll keep you in my thoughts.

claud662 Congratulations! I'm so happy for you!

AFM... I see RE 12/21 for a lining check. Till then, it's Lupron and Estrace.
Lou--- 1 beautiful baby girl from a single 8 cell embie in Sept 2011
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katie99 - I'm pleased to report that my DH happily admits he's rubbish at DIY and is more than happy to farm out jobs to people who actually know what they're doing. My parents said (jokingly!) that they were disappointed that I decided to settle down with a lawyer rather than someone like a carpenter, electrician or plumber who would actually have been useful to have in the family, haha!! Lightbulbs and putting up pictures is about the combined DIY limit in this house, lol!! Your weekend wasn't quite the one I would have hoped for you, but I'm thinking that you can't have had too much time free to think about IVF, so it's all good. Your question about how the clinic knows how to adjust my meds if they don't do b/w all the time - I don't know is the answer, they didn't adjust anything mid-cycle this time and they only adjusted the Gonal-F dose last cycle when they'd seen the first scan. Have to say, I'm so pleased to be able to stay active through the stims - I'm not a lazing around person so I'm going to be tearing my hair out for the few days after ET when I try and force myself to take it easy. Today would have been the last day for golf anyway though, ER or no ER tomorrow, as it's finally starting to get uncomfortable to bend over the twist my torso. Hopefully that means the eggs are getting ripe and juicy from the trigger shot!

claud662 - OK, I promise I'll try not to be nervous about the sedation. One of the nurses has suggested I use gas & air this time to take the edge off. Half of me wishes that my clinic didn't let you be awake through ER! I think it's partly better but also partly worse knowing what to expect this time around! GL for tomorrow's beta!

sarah_ruth - I so hope you can manage to regain some PMA. I have a good friend (who I met on here) who was convinced that her 4th IVF try hadn't worked either because she felt absolutely nothing through her 2ww, and she is now 7 months pregnant with twins. POAS if you want to, but it's still probably too early so try and keep strong until the end of the week if you can.

justwannabamom - my heart is breaking for you, what an upheaval for you and DH. I hope you manage to get some rest tonight at the hotel and I'm so hoping that tomorrow brings more positive news about your embryos. I know that it would be nicer to have continuity with the RE you know, but I really wouldn't worry about another RE doing the transfer, after all he wouldn't be employed at the clinic if he couldn't do the job!

julia_78 - Ow, that pinkie toe procedure sounds horrible! Hope you stop limping soon... Your information about boy embyros being stronger is so interesting! Kind of explains why out of so many people (friends of friends, work colleagues etc) I know of in the 'outside' world who've had IVF, such a high proportion have had boys. I agree with katie99, I think it's a great plan to drive with DH, that way you won't be doing anything too physical but can still make the meeting.

Anyway ladies, off to cook dinner. I'll try and catch you later before I head off to bed.

Hazel
Me 35, DH 41
TTC 4+ years
4 IUI's, BFN
#1 IVF, 04/2009, BFN
#2 FET, 07/2009, no transfer, frosties failed to thaw
#3 IVF, 12/2009, +ve HPT New Years Day!

GEORGE THOMAS ALEXANDER born 18th September 2010, 9lbs 4.5oz. Our beautiful boy.
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Post by Eol »

Hello Ladies,

Sorry to be MIA, went away this weekend for a yoga retreat- probably good thing, given this mornings news.... have been canceled again. :evil: :evil: :evil: Seems that I am "not a good responder" and this might be a no go without a donor egg.... so, I think I need to move on. I cried my eyes out- thank god my mom was home- went and sat with her for a while. Bailed out on work. Sitting at home, feeling sorry for myself. So, I think my next board might be an..... drum roll.... adoption site. Hoping that path will be right for me.

Thinking lots of you ladies. Hazel, good luck to you! Get lots of embies.....!

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Post by justwannabamom »

Eol sorry to hear you got cancelled. I hope that the next path you choose works out better for you.((((( Hugs)))))
*Kelly*
TTC 3 years
DH 29 very low sperm count
Me 29 hypothyroidism
IVF #1 July 09 BFN no frosties IVF #2 Dec 09
11 eggs ICSI 7 5 fertilized
Transferred 2 day 5 embryos on 12/15 no frosties BFN
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Post by CT_Michele »

Hazel- Good luck tomorrow. I will be thinking about you! Can't wait to hear the great report tomorrow!
Me- 28 DH- 33 Male Factor
1st IVF- 12/07- BFP! Ella Michele was born 8/26/8
2nd IVF- 04/09 - BFN
1st FET- 09/09 - Chemical
3rd IVF - 04/11 - Embies didn't make it to ET
4th IVF - Fall 2011??
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Post by Skylar »

Sara Ruth: You are so adorable, I know how you feel ,it's natural to question everything when it comes to IVF. The only thing that's going on with my body, is small twinges in my stomach, but I could be hungry. It maybe too early to feel anything. I think about you everyday. I hope everything goes well for you.
Hjw: I am glad you triggered, I know how you feel when you have a drug free day. It feels like there is something missing. Like I missed something. I hope they get a lot of little ones tomorrow.
Kelly: I know that it's hard when you don't have a lot of good eggs, my eggs were doing very well until day five, out of six, three were morulas and the others stop growing. So I was like, man this sucks. Then the doctor explain we still have a chance to have a baby. You do too, sometimes the eggs grow better inside your belly then at a lab. Try to keep PMA, your baby deserve a nice stress free home :D.
Lou71: I am glad you had a nice time in Vegas. Welcome back.
Claud662: How is mommy feeling? I am having my beta on Wednesday. I want my beta number to be high. I had seven m/c and my beta number were always low. I keep thinking if I am truly pregnant I would like my number to be high.
Katie99: I have a dh just like your, instead of a project costing $10, it ends up costing $100. My dh doesn't like outside help but, I don't mind paying someone to do the job right the first time.
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Claud662: I'm so happy for you, and can't wait to hear how your 2nd beta is tomorrow!

SaraRuth: All of this can be so mentally exhausting, and we question everything we feel or don't feel! Just keep in mind, many people don't find out they are pregnant until many weeks into their pregnancy, and you're less than 2 weeks in! It would be completely normal not to feel anything right now!

Katie99: So I have managed to completely gut and remodel my house with a semi-handyman, but a very handy FIL. I guess our marriage surviving the remodel was prep for our marriage surviving the IVF!

kelly/justwannabamom: Like every child, every embryo is different. Remember that those who start the race fastest don't always win! I have one little frozen guy or gal who started out as a not very good looking embryo, and it ended up making it to blast and hopefully will be our little fighter! Don't give up hope!

Julia78: Good for you for getting the procedure out of the way before your not able to have painkillers! I was just thinking about the fact that I have a dentist appt in a month, and if I have a cavity and am pregnant, there's not a whole lot I can do about it! Better keep flossing!

katie99: I'm like you. I'll be back at work the next day, although I refuse to work overtime or do anything strenuous. I think the hubster driving you is a great idea!

Lou71: My cycle buddy! So glad you got your fun trip to Vegas! I want to hear the stories!!! My ET is Wednesday, and so my little frostie will be thawed tomorrow I guess. Wish him/her luck!

EOL: I'm sorry you're having to face this decision, and I hope that it's one you have peace with! There are so many babies out there that deserve a loving home, and with all the love you have to give any one of them would be lucky to have you!

AFM, all TWO of my ultrasound and b/w results came back right on target, so now our next hurdle prior to transfer is a successful thaw. My husband and I name our embryos, and this one is Hope! It won't be his/her real name, but it makes us smile when we say it! My ET is scheduled for 9AM CST on 12/16, so I'll check in with you all tomorrow and then I'll be PUPO the next time we chat!
Me: 29
DH: 32, Male Factor
4 Failed IUI
IVF #1 - BFN
FET #1 - BFP!!! DD born Sept 2010
IVF #2 - Chemical
Next: Work on improving DH and my fertility while saving up for next round. Why does something that we want so badly have to also be so expensive?
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Post by dodo928 »

hello ladies, I just want to give a quick update! I saw a donor at an agency that I like but it's her first time and I didn't put the bet on her with so much money and no proven. Last week, I saw her again but found she had one donation in November and the recipient has more than double the hcg level from the first beta. But the problem is we paid the agency fee to clinic's egg donor agency and chose their donor before, if I choose the one that I like, I will have to pay agency fee again in addition to the donor compensation fee. The anxiety increases as the 1st DE IVF failed. Afterall, the successful rate is supposedly to be much higher but I's on the other side. I felt a lot of burden if DH didn't go with my choice. Afterall, I's a housewife and we're spending his money on doing this. DH used his rational mind and told me the donor at the clinic has higher successful rate. But i's so drawn to the donor I like. I guess because she's a little look like me. I finally melted down and broke down and begged DH to choose her. DH told me that he would wait until RE says 'yes' and we could talk from there. We then sat at our dining table and began eating. He started to tell me that he thought my donor had a little look like me and he told me that he liked her more. Thanks for the kabob chicken leftover that he brought home from his favorite kabob restaurant! He finally told me something from his heart instead of from his mind. But i always follow my heart and we'd never had any agreement but only on stand firm and the other gives in. He really made my night! Now, we have to wait for RE to approve it!

katie99: sorry for the toilet drama! my DH is hooked up with Home Depot too! I always wish he has someone works for our house instead of himself who is an amateur. But everytime, he just insists to do it on his own. I guess men are hooked up on fixing hardware things. And women are hooked up with fertility center on getting babies!

Julia: sorry to hear about your dermatology appointment! hope the cells grow back on your toes so that you can balance your walking! my RE ordered me 72 hours bed rest after transfer. but i can go to bathroom and sit at the dining chair for meals. I heard someone told me that her RE required her 5 days bed rest.

Kelly: sorry for all the things happened to you! crossing fingers for your transfer!

Hope all the ladies doing going to get BFP ASAP!
me 44, dh 57
ttc 15 years
low ovarian reserve, high FSH, male factor
5 IUI (<2002) BFN
#1 IVF - cancelled no response (2003)
2 missed m/c from natural pregnancies (2004)
#1 DE-IVF (11/23/2009) BFN
#2 DE-IVF (05/15/2010) m/c (blighted ovum) on 06/24/10
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Post by LorrieS »

Hi girls. I'm so sorry I've been MIA. I've been very very ill and couldn't even stand to be at my pc for anything. It's been horrible but hopefully a 'strong' 'sticky' baby sign! Migraines and throwing up so badly. I'm feeling a bit better now but still causcious and taking it easy because the mild headache and nausea is still lingering and ready to come back full force if I don't take it easy.

I put my BETA results in my signey. Things are moving along in the right direction I hope.

I will come back more often (hopefully).

I wanted to give a HUGE CONGRATS to CLAUDIA!!!!!!! I'm so happy for you!!

God Bless.

Lorrie
Lorrie (42) DH (42)
TTC for 15yrs
IVF#1 BFN - (4/09)
IVF#2 BFP - (10/09)m/c Chemical
IVF#3 BFP - (12/09)m/c 6w3d :(
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Post by justwannabamom »

Well ladies a little bit of better news today. Transfer is done. All but 2 died so they just put the 2 that were left in. They said one looked better closer to what they wanted to see. The other was still behind but at least still alive so let's hope those 2 little ones are good enough! Thanks for all the support! I hope all is well with evryone else.
*Kelly*
TTC 3 years
DH 29 very low sperm count
Me 29 hypothyroidism
IVF #1 July 09 BFN no frosties IVF #2 Dec 09
11 eggs ICSI 7 5 fertilized
Transferred 2 day 5 embryos on 12/15 no frosties BFN
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LOU- Vegas sounds great! So glad that you had the chance to get away and get your mind off things. Looking forward to hearing updates about ET.

HAZEL- Thanks for the pep talk. I know its early, I am trying to just focus on Plan B (the jan/feb cycle) just to keep myself looking ahead. Good luck, can't wait to hear the repot.

EOL- I am so sorry for your news. My heart breaks for everyone who has had to face what you are facing. My husband and I are starting the adoption process as well. What a gift you will give some lucky child. Hugs.

SKYLAR- I have been thinking about you too! You are so much better at the PMA than I am.

KATIE & SKYLAR- I am trying to get DH to be more like your DH's. since...WE JUST BOUGHT A HOUSE! Yep, our offer was accepted and we have a nice house right here in the city (DC). We are really excited...now if only we had kids to fill it with...

BR Mommy- Thanks so much for the kind words. It is so unfair that IVF robs us of any mystery. I would love to be blissfully unaware until week 6! So excited about your ET news! I just know those strong embies will be holding on. Welcome to the 2WW!

DODO- I am so sorry that the donor choice has been so rough. I am glad it seems like you and DH are discussing things openly. Maybe one blessing would be if this whole thing actually brought you closer.

LORRIE- Congrats your numbers look great!! Glad you are feeling better finally.

AFM- Well of course I have been so miserable and pouty these past few days so I broke down and POAS last night, of course it was negative (I know its super early but I had read about some people getting BFPs so I thought I would try). At least now I know that the trigger is out of my system right? I actually still feel this cycle is over, I know its early, but sometimes you just know your own body ya know? Anyway the nurse called yesterday to tell us that of the three embies they rebiopsied one had CF, one was a carrier and one was still no result. They are discarding the CF and no result and keeping the carrier. That leaves us with three frozen blasts, 2 carrier and 1 unaffected.
Because I am so convinced that this cycle is a BFN, I started asking her all kinds of questions about what the next step would be if we wanted to do IVF again. She said that because my clinic has a 2 for 1 program, we could go right into another fresh cycle using the period I would get if this cycle is BFN (assuming there were no cysts). So I wouldn't do a frozen with the ones I have because that wouldn't be covered under the programs. Ugh, I was hoping to give my body a rest with the stimming...but I guess then I would freeze more, younger eggs. What would you guys do?
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lorrie - CONGRATULATIONS!!! so happy for you, great betas! hope the migraine & nausea will pass soon so you can start enjoying BEING PREGNANT. this is so exciting...

dodo - picking a donor sounds so nerve wracking!! it's nice that you were able to convince DH to pick the donor you like. re: your question, my husband and i are staying home for xmas - our neighborhood is just like wisteria lane and we have a neighbor entertaining almost every evening until new years, so we'll definitely stay local for the holidays, just walk up & down the street ;)

justwannabeamom/kelly - you are PUPO! remember, it only takes one, and those little guys will definitely do better with you than they would have done in the lab, so fingers crossed for you!

sarah ruth - pma, pma! you are sooo early that i don't think you should be able to feel anything. that 2ww is enough to drive anyone insane, isn't it??

bemommy2b - congrats for getting cleared for ET! we are pretty close to the same schedule, it's nice to have some company :) with your ET on 12/16 does that put your beta on xmas eve?

eol - so sorry you got cancelled. big hugs to you & DH. when is your apt with RE to discuss nxt steps?

afm - still limping around but was able to upgrade from flip flops to uggs, yay! had my u/s this morning. lining at 11 mm (they wanted at least 6) and ovaries were "very quiet" so they think i'll be good to go for FET on 12/21 (the b/w results this afternoon should confirm i have not ovulated and that we can proceed, but from the u/s the nurse was pretty sure i would be good to go). so if all goes well, i start progesterone tonight (never thought i would ever look forward to it...). and i also have my first acupuncture apt tonight - pulling all the stops this time around ;) this better be our time, darn it!
Me: 31, DH: 39, low sperm count, motility & poor morphology
IVF #1 Sep 09 BFN
FET Dec 09 BFP, m/c 6 wks
IVF #2 Jun 09 BFP! beta 9dp5dt 176!! Twins due Mar 17

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Kelly-I'm so happy for you!! That report sounds very promising and now they are both where they should be (inside mommy's belly!!) Enjoy being PUPO and I can't wait for you to get the BFP!!!

Julia-glad to hear your toe is feeling better :lol: Good luck with your b/w results this afternoon and it seems like you are doing great!!! Have you done acupuncture before? I loved it and found it to be very relaxing....

Lorrie-CONGRATS MOMMA!!! Those numbers look amazing and so sorry you aren't feeling well but they say that if you are having TWINS that you feel the symptoms sooner :P :P :P

sarah-ruth-don't be discouraged....I had no symptoms during the 2ww (I actually thought I had my period so you never know!!!) When is your official beta test?

brmommy2b-yah for almost ET!!! I'm praying for HOPE!!!! When will you find out if the thaw is successful?!?!

Lou-Glad Vegas went well....how did you deal with taking shots and being with your girlfriends?

AFM...Totally nervous/freaking out that my beta didn't double!!!! I woke up at 4:00AM and have not been able to fall back asleep so I'm hoping and praying and nervous as h**l!!!! I should be getting the call in a couple of hours. My only symptoms are slight twinges and pulling sensations and my bb were sore the past couple days but not today!!! Wish me luck!!!
Claudia(31) thin lining and low progesterone
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Hazel -You have been on my mind all morning! I hope that you're home resting and quite cozy. Hope that it went well, and I cant wait to hear from you later! - xoxo

Julia -So glad to hear that you're feeling better! UGGs are so comfy thats just got to help. Yipppeee for 11 mm and starting PIO, yes, we must all be mad to get excited over large needles!

Eol -I wish you the best with whichever road you choose to attain your dreams!

Skylar -1 more day! wasnt that the loooongest 2w of your life? Yes, i dont mind DIY IF the man is ACTUALLY handy - which is questionable in my house :roll:

BRMommy2B -Wishing you a healthy thaw and the best of luck for your FET tomorrow! I'll say a prayer for "Hope"

Dodo -Aww your post brings tears to my eyes! If you have a lucky feeling for this donor and the added bonus that she looks like you too and then your DH says he agrees with you - well I think you have your answer - Now we just pray that your RE is on the same page!

Lorrie -OMG! CONGRATULATIONS!!!! :D oh, I 'm so happy to hear! I was worried that it didnt go right when you were MIA - YAY!!!!!!

Kelly -You are PUPO!!! and your 2 little fighters are so much happier now! - take it easy so they can settle right in! When is your beta?

SarahRuth -Congrats on your new house! Oh, I think you'll be filling up those rooms soon enough! We are alike in always feeling more secure with a plan B - I just hope that you wont be needing it! I hope that you feel better after reading Claudia's post, she was so sure that her period was coming - and now her dog is wearing t-shirts instead!! :D
Not that you'll need to even think about it, but a 2 for 1 package shouldnt go to waste, especially with the scary prices we all pay for this. Now that you know the trigger is gone, theres no need to POAS til at least 9dpt - for your own peace of mind - xoxo

Claudia -I think the worrying will never end maybe when that baby is in your arms, but maybe not for another 18 yrs :lol: I just hope that they call you early to end your stress today - xoxo
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IVF #7 -FET with donor embies 2/10 -BFP!
DS born 11/10
Trying for a sibling
4 FETs with donor embies - all BFN
FET with donor embies - one last try.. Feb 2013 - BFP!
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