Winter Cycle Friends 2009/2010 - Everyone Welcome!

[lou71]

Hi girls,

I'm still reading but not posting as much these days. But checking in frequently for updates on Katie's progress.

babyluv -- Unfortunately no more frosties. So another fresh cycle for me. I need to wait until January because I have a business trip planned for the first week of December which would mess everything up.

Steph -- Your babies are just gorgeous. I'm so happy for you and Andrew.

Claudia -- How are you feeling? I'm dying to see if your baby is born on the due date. We'd share a b-day.

Hazel -- So sorry to hear about your dad's passing. I know how hard that is. I'm thinking of you.

Katie -- Will Ryan c'mon already? I love that name btw. My gay bff is named Ryan. He wants to name my child if/when I have one. He said if it's a boy, I have to name him "Court". I said "Is that even a name?" Then he told me that no matter what I named my son (if it's a boy) he will call him "Court". LOL.

Gi -- Miss you too girl. You are coming close as well. I was only two days behind you at one point. Maybe January 2011 will be my time and I'll have a fall baby next year instead.

Everyone else -- Miss you all. Good luck. You are all frequently in my thoughts.

AFM -- Not much news. I do have a question though. Did any of you take any supplements? I've started DHEA with RE's blessing. I've read some good stuff on it. It seems many people had hormone levels drawn either before or during treatment and I asked RE if I needed that and he said "nope". So I'm blindly taking 25mg 3x/day and hoping that's the right dose for me. I've heard that if your natural DHEA level is high, then it could be detrimental to your next cycle. I've also heard it takes a minimum of 7 weeks to show improvement. I'll be on it about 10 weeks by the time I go to ER. Anyone have any advice/experience to add? I've also ordered Royal Jelly and Wheatgrass...lol. Hey, it can't hurt, right? I don't really need to worry about quantity.... my embies even appear to be good quality... but why the heck didn't any of my blasts last cycle implant? I transfered two fresh and then two on a FET. Both were BFN. RE seemed skeptical that I could repeat that performance of making 4 blasts again and gave me an overall success rate of 25%. I asked if I did have 4 blasts again, is it still only 25%? And he said, "no, considerably higher... closer to 50%". <sigh> We shall see. I just don't feel like I can give up yet. I wish money wasn't an issue and that we had insurance coverage for some of this.

[Arabsrcool]

Katie,
Will Ryan come already. I keep checking back in!

Gi,
I am glad all is well with you and your little one. Be interesting to see if she comes on time.

lou,
Hi girlfriend!. I wish I had some liquid gold for you, but I got nada. I think supplements sure have helped alot of girls, so I say go for it!!!!! I think of you often, I know you are probably struggling now.....EDD is approaching. I know the closer it gets the more ansy I get. I was thinking of you today, I was working out over my lunch hour (I decided if I cannot be pregnant, then I might was well get into shape) and thought about what great shape you are in. I aspire to be toned up and its theraputic for me beating myself up over my lunch hour......just lately my thoughts are consumed by what might have been. Ok, enough rambling, I will continue to stalk you and be your cheerleader!

Steph,
Your babies are gorgeous!. That black and white pic is Wonderful! I am glad you are all doing well!

afm, I have been thinking and thinking about a baby. We are getting ready to do the insurance renewal thing again, and we would have some coverage again. I broached the subject to my dh, and he is really really against the idea of trying again. He said you have already gotten rid of all the baby things, etc, etc. I think he is really afraid of the TESA procedure, and he thinks we are too old and were blessed with two little girls and should just be happy. Sigh, he is right, dammit! I think if I would have used all my frosties and not gotten pg, I would not be struggling so much with this.

miss you all

Ronda

[gi]

Hi girls,

Katie hope all is well. I can understand it must be a bit hard getting around the idea of a little boy after saying girl for so long those feelings are normal and will be totally wiped out when he is in your arms...whenever he decides to show up!!! Its getting exciting round here waiting for new arrivals, it doesnt seem like that long ago that you set up this site and we were all nervously awaiting our 1st scans!!

Steph i am glad you are not able to drive just yet as it can be dangerous here in Ireland if you get a C-section you are not allowed to drive for 6 wks! Yeah for shaving legs without been uncomfortable..cant wait for that

babyluv hee hee so you and i may be in a race together though with twins i suspect you have the advantage of coming 1st....watch this space!!!! I figured out how to sterilise the bottles last wk so everything is set up rearing to go we also bought just one tub of formula today just to have and i know the hospital use that brand....hmmm may read instructions on how to make them up!!

Ronda thanks for all your wishes and i know it must be bitter sweet posting here, i felt the same on my last pregnancy, it must be hard at the moment with your due date close will be thinking of you and all the others that were here.

Lou i esp. feel for you as well as we were so close in due dates, from experience i found it easier to move on after the due date passed esp on my Jan 2010 due date, thankfully i was pg on my 2nd due date. Please God 2011 will be your year. Also i really wouldnt be too concerned about your chances of good quality embies again if you did it once (and that was so recently) you can do it again, we were only given a 15% chance of success of conceiving this time then a whopping over 45% chance of mc...we thankfully defied the odds.

gi xxx

[katie99]

Hi everyone -

Well another day late and so far nothing. Although if I'm going to be alone all day, then thats fine - for today lol. I think its going to turn into a pj day
hey, its allowed when you're 5 days late - and besides haha really nothing else fits anymore. I've been living in Chris's big shirts lately. I'm hitting that point where I feel like I'm just going to pop like a balloon! Last night my belly was moving in waves first to one side then back again - it was a riot! And Chris ever eager to make me laugh ( even though laughing kinda hurts lately ) starts doing the shark music - you know the theme from "Jaws". I kept saying any minute now you're going to see a little triangle going across my belly (like an elbow maybe) aww, but it didnt maybe thats a good thing because I would have just peed myself laughing. I did tell him though that if he puts on the movie "Alien" I'm outta here - hee hee. Oh and for all the sleep that I didnt get last night, I think I jinxed myself the other day when i said the reflux had gotten better? Wow did it make itself known last night! You'd never believe that I could hop out of bed that fast being this big - but acid reflux is a really big motivator -grrr! Now if only Gracie would stop sleeping on the floor next to my side of the bed ( whats wrong with her big dog bed? nothing!) its becoming an olympic event to not step on her. sigh

Steph - Oh boy 1 baby in your arms and another baby on your leg - you poor thing you're outnumbered! I'm so happy to hear that you've worked out a routine for handling them both at once, I mean there isnt a choice and since they want to do everything at the same time, I knew you'd get it worked out. it will get easier when they're sleeping a little longer and you're more healed. How many hours are you managing now? Oh thank God that Andrew could take the babies for their 2 wk check up, theres no way you should be lifting that much weight this soon after surgery. and i'm not surprised that people are stopping in their track s to coo over the super cuties - surely you are aware that they are way past adorable, right? they look like little baby models! But *sigh* I'm not too suprised to hear that people are asking personal questions of you. Some of them just dont think before opening their mouths, but I'm sure they mean well.
Ok, I'm jealous that your legs are back to normal - i've never been this big in my life and its like jaw dropping to look in the mirror naked anymore! EEKK!
I did manage to shave my legs the other day (by myself too) and I'd like a medal please, it was definitely an athletic endeavor - lol. Ummm, seems like Ryan is listening to no one and doesnt care WHAT the calendar says either. I think that the miracle baby is a stubborn one already - Just get through today twin mama and Andrew will be there to help you out all weekend much love - xoxoxo

Natasha - Even finding out 4 days ago hasnt made it easier to believe. In the past 5 months I've had just the u/s and surprise penis on tues and I had a quick scan about a month ago but to look for signs of fetal distress (what a shame no one read my chart or looked between the baby's legs!) i think they were only looking at HR, cord flow and breathing. it makes me wish that I'd pushed harder for a u/s during all the months of being told "oh, you're fine" theres no need for an u/s. how are you feeling mama? How is school going? you shouldnt have much longer before a break right?

Lou - Ah, I miss you something terrible. Court is cute but maybe better as a nickname? Yeah, I felt the same way, if IVF werent as bloody expensive as it is, or if we had insurance to cover it i may have kept trying with my own eggs awhile longer (who knows if it would have been any different for me) but money is always a factor in cycling decisions, isnt it?. I had asked my RE about DHEA after try #4 I think, and he told me no, and wouldnt write me the prescription for it either, and didnt want me to buy the OTC kind either. He said that he felt there wasnt enough research to take a chance since it raises the testosterone levels and that isnt good for eggs unless your hormones were off to begin with. But theres soooo many conflicting theories out there, Ghost doesnt seem too enthused, but says its "interesting" I think its a matter of an RE's personal choice. I'd ask though why your RE didnt want to test your levels first though. I dont think that Royal jelly or wheatgrass could hurt and you never know what could help, right? And i'm with Gi, you had great quality blasts last fresh try, so you'll do it again this time! I think of you often and am keeping everything crossed (as always) that this is it for you. I'll be here to cheer you on no matter what or when. much love - xoxoxo

Ronda - Its always good to hear from you. Miss you lots. Umm, yes Ryan does seem to not be on anyones schedule but his own I hope thats not a window into his personality - lol. I hope that you follow your heart and that your DH realizes how much this means to you. If theres a possibility that you end up getting insurance coverage - I say take it. There must be a reason that you cant stop thinking of this, right? Maybe your DH is just overly cautious because this last pg was so painful and he's scared of going through that kind of hurt again? A TESA isnt anything to fear - jeez especially considering thats his only part - I mean look how much physical pain we endure as women! I say if its been on your mind - then never say never cause things change all the time.
much love to you - xoxoxo

Gi - Wheeee! Your ticker sure is moving along now! 17 days left, if you dont go early. Its funny how long we've all waited for this - yet how quickly it seems like the time has passed. I know it wouldnt have been the same without the great company of the girls here - heck I may not have even made it to attempt #7 without the support I've gotten here - Blasted raging hormones! Here I go tearing up again. What I mean to say if that you girls mean an awful lot to me and i'm so grateful to have you all as friends. We are truly lucky to have this place. I'm hoping that we all just stay and end up with a mommy's thread. I would miss you all so much if we all just faded off. Jeez, whats going on with my hormones today? It seems like I'm destined to cry at the drop of a hat
How are you feeling mama? Are you getting a bit anxious? Or are you just plain ready right now? I go back & forth myself, but i'm on borrowed time now, so ready or not - if he's not out by Monday, he'll be evicted on tues - lol. Umm, yeah I hope the directions to mixing formula is simpler in Ireland, cause I've looked at our directions and they are confusing! Much love to you & J & Joan - xoxoxo

hugs & prayers to us all - xoxoxo

[rayofsunshine]

Hello everyone!

Katie-Isn't everyday PJ day?! I have been in the hospital, dressed in PJs for 14 days and had 3 days at home before that in PJs. It is comfy but I think I'm actually getting excited to put on "real" clothes. I know how ready you are for Ryan to come but it seems to work out that you have time to change a few things in the nursery for him. I have everything crossed that he cooperates this weekend!

Stephanie-Sounds like you are juggling well and getting into the groove with the babies. It seems crazy that you have their 2 week appt.-it seems like they were just born!

Babyluv-I have the same thought about having everything ready before-I'm not so worried this time around and I know my family will do/get whatever we need. Everyone has been busy buying preemie diapers and clothes already-I think they are already going overboard. I'm glad you are feeling good and ready for two more weeks. I hope you can make it as long as possible to help those girls grow.

Angela-I know how hard it is to juggle work and being pregnant-you are doing a great job of listening to your body and relaxing so you should be fine working until you know it doesn't feel right anymore. I wish they would set up more time for maternity leave for working moms. I still think we should move where they give that time-maybe move in with Gi?!

Gi-Your ticker is flying by! How are you feeling these days?

Lou-We are all cheering for your cycle in Jan. You have been on a very tough road but I am so glad you are still trying and keeping hope that you will have that beautiful baby Keep us posted!

Ronda-I would also have a really hard time giving up after getting pregnant and going through a loss. There is that feeling of maybe because it did work before. I wish you all the best and hope the answer becomes clear for you and your DH.

AFM-I'm so sorry I didn't post yesterday after my u/s-I had to take a moment because I was a little discouraged. The babies measured 5 lbs and 5lbs 8 oz. Then the doctor said, "Let's wait til next week." I wanted it to be Friday so bad and I was hoping the babies had grown more. But...I took the day and realized that they are doing what is best and the babies ARE growing so I should be thankful and patient. The good news is that they finally set a time!! The c-section is set for Monday at 1:30. They had to put it in the afternoon because the morning was booked. Yeah, I get to stop eating/drinking at midnight the night before so I will be starving and so thirsty by the time the surgery rolls around. I'm just excited I have a time

Take care and have a great evening!
Sara

[babyluv3]

Lou - Sorry girl, no advice on the supplements. I've heard good things about everything you are taking, but haven't done it myself. Glad you can take the time to be on them for awhile before going into the next round, just so you know you tried it. As for your last two cycles not working...I have NO IDEA sometimes how this stuff happens!! It just doesn't seem to make sense. Maybe it will in another year (or 10 or 20), but for now it's just a WHAT THE HECK thing. Praying for you that this next cycle IS IT!

Rhonda - I am so sorry that you and your DH aren't on the same time page. It was actually my DH that had to convince me to try again one last time (I didn't see the point as we didn't have good embryos the first two tries). Sometimes it takes awhile. I hope either you can have a sense of peace and closure soon, or he can agree to give it one more go. And yes, you are VERY blessed with your family, but I understand the desire to have more, especially since you lost one recently. I think you're right, it just makes it that much harder to leave it be now.

Steph - Thanks for the tips! What else do you recommend for the hospital bag? I'm guessing I don't need bottles, just clothes and blankets and car seats to bring the girls home. Hats? Glad you were able to manage your first day without Andrew! I'm sure I'll be finding all sorts of crazy positions for them. Are you back to nursing at all, or still pumping and formula?

Katie - UGH, sorry the reflux came back (though I'm glad you are also feeling better). Wow, almost a week overdue! What is it with you singleton mommies?? Come on Ryan!!

Sara - Oh, I was SOOO hoping you hadn't been on because you had your twins! Sorry you have to wait a bit longer, but it will be worth it! That will be 37 weeks for you right? And the babies sound like they are great weights. Are you disappointed with that, or just the waiting a few more days? I have an u/s next week to get an estimate on mine. I know they can be off a pound either way, so hopefully yours (and mine) will be even a little bigger than the u/s says. I expect mine to be around 5.5 next week. Hoepfully their growth hasn't slowed, or at least not a lot!

Angela - I saw that too about the 13 pound baby!! He was huge!! Sounds like you have a great plan on the whole maternity leave thing. Make it as far as you can, but stop if you need to.

Gi - We are SO CLOSE!! SO CLOSE!

AFM - Today I felt better than I have in awhile...and I actually cooked dinner! Granted it wasn't difficult, but it felt good to do something other than nap NST was a little weird today. BP was high when she first took it (seems to be the norm), then had me take deep breaths and I was in normal range again. Weird. So the NST...they've been pretty uneventful, but today she came in after 15 min or so because A was sleeping (despite me having OJ before I got there...I didn't do it last time and was on the monitor almost an hour because she needed to wake up). So the nurse came in with the sound wave device, put it on my belly for about 5 seconds, and then both of their heart rates jumped like crazy!! No problem getting reactions after that! About 10 min later she came in and asked if I saw the maternal/fetal docs there at the hospital and when my next u/s was. When she came back to check me out 5 minutes later, I asked if everything was OK. She said she thought maybe she heard a murmur on Baby A when she was listening to her and just wanted to see if the MF docs wanted an u/s. Since I go next week, they are just having me wait until then. I'm really not concerned about it. They have checked the hearts so many times, and murmurs are so common. Alex had an innocent one, and Scarlett obviously needed surgery for the hole in her heart, but I'm sure it's nothing. Just glad I made it through another appt!

So next week should be my last week of regular OB appts and NSTs. The follow week will just be my preop and c/s if the girls decide to stay in! And since I was feeling good today, I decided to go ahead and sterilize the pump parts and some bottles instead of laying down all day. At least that's something, right?

[angelaezra]

Katie – So Ryan decided not to show up today, which is a very good thing since Chris had to work long hours today. A PJ day sounds like a great day to me! I hope that you aren’t too uncomfortable tonight and tell that terrible acid reflux to stay way…

Stephanie – I hope day two by yourself went ok. It sounds like you are like a magician when the babies are awake. Work has been long and sometimes really stressful but I am actually not on my feet the entire day. I work for a pharmaceutical company now and I spend more time driving in my car than anything, I educate my physicians, pharmacists, and nurses on the products that my company manufactures and markets so that they know how to prescribe it for their patients. I really like the fact that I am not stuck on a unit all day and I have a lot of freedom during the day. I do walk a lot and at times I really start to feel my contractions a lot. But I keep telling myself; only 6 to 7 weeks left … whoo hoo!

Natasha – It’s Friday and I hope that you will have a moment to relax a little this weekend.

Lou – No, I didn’t take any supplements but I am like you, it can’t hurt! I do understand your strong desire to not give up. If you and your DH are in agreement and your healthy, I say go for it!

Ronda – It is great to hear from you. I understand your thoughts of another child also but you never know what the future has in store you. It might be helpful to really sit down with your DH and try to find out why he is hesitating trying again. After our late pregnancy lost last year, I found out that it affected my DH a lot more than I realized. And as you know, everyone processes their grief in different ways.

Gi – I keep looking at your ticker and it is just moving right along. Kayla will be here soon! How are you feeling?

Sara – It is great to hear from you. I was a little worried when we didn’t hear yesterday but after reading your post, I certainly understand your feelings for sure. So Monday is the big day, huh? I will definitely be thinking of you around 1:30pm! It is so exciting that you finally get to meet them!

Babyluv – I am glad that you felt pretty good today! I agree with you about the murmur; I am sure everything is just fine. During my NST, the nurse had to use the sound wave device also because her heart rate would not raise 15 beats per minute above her baseline and it definitely did the trick!

AFM – Well, I made it through another week … thank goodness! I know I mentioned before that we have NFL tickets for this Sunday for the Dolphins/Bengals game and I was seriously thinking of telling DH to take someone else because the walk from the parking garage is a good mile or two. But, my sister got four tickets and a parking pass for the same game and the parking lot is next to the stadium. So that means I will not have to walk too far … yeah! It will now be a family event with my DH, sister, nephew, mom, and dad. I am kind of looking forward to it. I hope everyone has a great night!

Angela

[DandMe]

I have been quietly reading your wonderful stories... it's been a bit hard because I cycled with many of you in Jan/Feb and we ended up with an early m/c and blighted ovum..... but several months away from the internet, another FET (also blighted ovum) and a second IVF.... that so far is going great.... has been enough time away for me to want to see how you lovely ladies are going.

I admit, being pregnant again with decent betas (at last) makes it possible for me to browse this forum.

I am so happy for the ladies who have had their babies or are so close it's just around the corner!! Good job, girls!! And Katie, I have to say that your twist really was the high note of drama for my reading update.... how shocking to find out so late.. LOL!! I was wondering though... does part of you sort of 'mourn' the girl you were expecting..?

[katie99]

Hi everyone - -

Well now we're up to 6 days late (or was I supposed to include the EDD?) and - yes, you guessed it - nothing yet. I'm really thinking that this stubborn baby will wait til tues to be evicted now. I just hope that being induced works and I dont get to try both ways of delivery - UGH! I feel good, just really tired despite that I got decent sleep last night. I feel like I've been pregnant forever now. I'm eager to see what the OB has to say on Monday...

Steph - How did your precious one's 2 week check up go? I'll bet you're so thrilled to have Andrew home for the weekend so you hopefully can get some rest? You're doing great twin mama! - xoxoxo Oh, check your DMV online, in NY you can renew online and save yourself a day wasted standing in lines

Sara - Yay honey, just get through tomorrow and you get to finally meet your babies!!! and me too, I'm so looking forward to wearing real clothes again.
Their weights sound great and may even be higher by Monday! - Good Luck we'll be thinking of you and waiting to hear how it went. xoxo

Babyluv - Glad you've been feeling good too, at least give us something towards the end, right? and you're so close now, just 1 more week of appts and then the countdown begins! As for singletons? Ack, who knows? maybe all that room just makes them too cozy?? or maybe its a stubborn boy thing? All I know is 41 weeks is toooooo long for this! hang in there honey, its almost over - xoxo Oooh, did you decide to dress up for Halloween? Gotta see that costume!

Angela - I dont know how you're able to get in & out of the car all day long, doesnt it make your belly tender feeling? Enjoy your weekend and have a great time at the game with your family! - Whew! yippee for closer parking!

Sonya - I've been following your story too, Congrats on those awesome beta numbers! I'm so happy for you! I was going to wait to congratulate you til your u/s and its good to see how more relaxed you are this time around, it makes it easier, doesnt it? we have enough stress with this process, who needs more. I do hope your clinic wont make you wait so long for your u/s this time, I remember how nerve wracking it was for you to have to wait so long last time. And, yes, I (well we) were a bit sad to pack up everything pink after thinking girl for 5 months, but as long as he's healthy is really all that matters anymore (well that and he gets here already!) I definitely want to try for a second child so maybe it will be a girl? When is your u/s?

[DandMe]

Katie; thanks for the post!

6 days is nothing!! My first son was two weeks over and I was induced.. my second was born a MONTH after his original due date!! They let me go two weeks past and then decided they 'might' have been wrong with my due date. I swear I carried that kid ten months - he was walking at 7 months old, and weighed ten lbs when he was born.. smiled at 10 days old - a real smile!

You will do wonderfully. He'll be here before you know it.

Yes I am happy about the great betas - how did you know about them? LOL I took another hpt today and the line was DARK before the pee went all the way over the test area. Freaky. I'm 18dpo. Not sure about the ultrasound. I'd love one at 6 weeks and then another at 8, but they want to do one at 7 and that's it. I'm going to see my own doc this week to try and talk him into it. You'd think that with two blighted ovums they'd have some mercy on me.

[Stephanieford78]

Katie - At this point I hope he stays in there too. That is how I felt when it came closer to the surgery date. I was so close that I didn't care for any surprises, just a for sure thing that resulted in the birth of the babies, not well, lets wait and see. lol So close, you are almost there! I really thought there would be something dramatic about this birth, but I suppose the drama is yet to come? Hoepfully it isn't something like a c-section! Lets hope that he isn't THAT subborn! So Tuesday will be IT right? Just two, maybe three more days depending on when they induce you. That is just crazy! You will have your miracle in your arms and no more chasing him around... Dad will finally be able to feel every movement while holding him in his arms. Him, his, he... wow... your boy! lol Still getting use to it yourself??

Sonya - Oh how F'ing happy I am to see you comfortable with being back here! Your numbers are great! That must feel so great. By the way, your first faint line looks a lot like mine did taken on the same day. Not saying that there are two in there, but you never know. Could be though, or it could be one very healthy strong baby letting off all kinds of HCG just to help mom feel better.

Angela - Glad you get to go to the game! That sounds like it might be fun. Take a pillow or cushion to sit on! Don't want mom to get uncomfortable!

Babyluv - I would say yes to hats if you can find some small enough to fit their little heads. We had to use the ones the hospital gives you because they were just that little. I am glad you aren't worrying yourself with the murmur. It is common in babies who aren't born yet, it is only after that we tend to worry a bit more. Even then it can go away or be corrected as you know with your other two. You are right around the corner!!

Sara - Monday is the day! Holy cow! I can't imagine having to wait till the afternoon though. You poor thing. They should let you eat something until like 3am. lol I hope you don't have much of an issue with heartburn. I had a problem with it if I didn't eat. Then they gave me this nasty tasting stuff to take right before surgery to help with heartburn and nausea. Yeah, it tasted so bad I almost brought it back up. People kept trying to talk to me and ask me questions, I had to tell them to shut up while I gathered myself. lol If you get that stuff, drink it like a shot and BEG them if you have to, to at least have a sip of water to smoosh around in your mouth to get the remaining taste out after you swallow it. They SHOULD give in and let you have the sip. They did for me.

Ronda - So glad to see you back here checking in on us! It is always so nice to see your name here! Miss you tons and bunches! I am so sorry that you are struggling. Even though you have two, only women like us can relate to that empty feeling and urge to try again spite what others have to say. It could be the maternal instinct of yours that knows there is a sould waiting for you. I don't see how age plays much of a factor in it since it wasn't that long ago you were trying. I remember saying that I didn't want kids past 25, then it was 30, then here I am at 32 and just had twins. I changed my thought process, not just for what I wanted, but for what Andrew wanted too. If it is possible for you to try at least one more time, maybe you can do it?

Lou - Missed you lots! Sorry I can't help answer your question though. I didn't take supplements. I don't blame you for not giving up yet. It is a maternal drive we all have, it's like we can't be stopped because we know it is right there, we just have to reach out far enough to grab it! I really wish insurance would just pay for it too! We are still paying off two loans that we took out just to pay for part of it. The end result is definately worth it. You will get there too!

AFM - Andrew came home from work long enough to take the twins to their 2 week appt. He offered to let me sleep and as guilty as I felt, I took him up on it. Mostly because he didn't get home when he planned to in time to wake me up in time to get ready. I knew he could handle it just fine and he asked the same questions I would have since he had the answers when he came back. Angelina is a healthy 6lbs even now and Ethan a wopping 7.2, my little chunky butt. The one thing that pissed me off though is the dr said they might have taken too much ckin off his little pecker. I was so worried about this before they cut him that I tried telling the pediatrician at the hospital about it. He looked at me like I was crazy and said he would be doing it just the same as he has been. Now the f'er might have ruined it for life. We won't know until he is at least a year old. I was so upset I was bawling. After all, I read about this prior to and talked to Andrew about it, how taking too much causes it to not be able to get a full erection (so in other words, he won't be as big as he would have been without the cut) and even be painful to have an erection. Andrew thinks it will be just fine, but it sucks to even hear that they might have maimed your little boy and he might need corrective surgery later in life. Other than that of course, they are both healthy and gaining well.

As far as Andrew's Army career, we think we have come up with a solution. He might volunteer to become a recruiter. This means he would be priority and pulled out of his unit to go recruit. This means no more f'ed up unit and command as well as no deployment this summer. However, it means packing up and moving to who the hell knows where and him working all hours. It is a three year commitment as well, but he can't deploy at all during that three years. We just have to cross our fingers and hope we don't get a place we simply can't stand. We will have no say in it at all. At this point, with his command ruining his career by not letting him get promoted, he has to make a move in some way. It is either this or warrant school. This way is faster, easier and guarantees him out of this unit. Oh, and guess what. Guess which asshole went on leave. The Commander!!! So Andrew couldn't talk to him about even compromising with his leave days, but the commander can take leave whenever he damn well pleases. What a SOB!! He just came back from leave for his ONE baby, was there for a week and took more leave. I swear I want to strangle these people. I am about to go get a shock collar and mail it to him with a stupid sign!

[angelaezra]

Katie – I hope you are doing ok this weekend. I was thinking on Monday they were going to induce you but it sounds like a definite date was not set yet, huh? Yes, some parking lots do have the close parking for expectant mothers but there is always someone parked there who is obviously not pregnant because they are men who are by themselves … lol. At the point that I am at now, I just want to strangle them but that is probably my hormones ranging!

Sonya – It is so good to see you post over here. Like Katie I’ve been following you like I stated on the other thread and I just want to congratulate you again … you have had a long road and certainly deserve to be on the other side again. Ok, I have to admit I almost fell off the coach when you said they let you go two weeks and then a whole month with your first and second sons … I swear there would have been some heads rolling. I can’t imagine going that long. I know a lot of doctors used to do that 5 plus years ago but I think a lot of them learned that it is not best for the babies or for the mother in that case and several of them that I have spoken to say they will not let most women go past seven days or so. My high risk OB said that he will induce me when I am 39 weeks and I thought that I would kiss him … lol. He wants to get her out as soon as she is considered term because of my awful history. Of course I didn’t argue with that theory!

Stephanie - I am glad that Angelina’s and Ethan’s appointment went well except I was furious when I read about the circumcision! What the hell was he thinking! I truly hope that he is going to be fine like Andrew thinks. How does the incision look … is it actually healing ok? You see, sometimes mom’s know best … you had a feeling and then expressed your concern to the physician! I am wishing Andrew the best concerning Andrews change to a recruiter.

Gi, Natasha, Babyluv, Claudia, Sara, PA_FA, & Franca – I hope you ladies are having a great weekend!

AFM – Well, I spent all morning doing paperwork for work and then took a much needed nap because I spent all night going back and forth to the bathroom, which I know all of you ladies understand that. I don’t have too much more going on with me today so I will chat with everyone tomorrow.

Angela

[Stephanieford78]

Angela - It looks to be healing fine and seems to be normal except where the bottom of the cut is. It seems to dip into the skin a bit. It isn't suppose to do that, it is suppose to be flush. All we can do is hope that it is just a little swelling or it goes away over time or we will have to get him corrective surgery. I hope it doesn't come to that. I am really thinking about calling the sob and chewing him a new ass. Obviously I had a right to voice my concern before he did it. Even though he looked at me like I was an idiot, I was right and he was the idiot! Sorry to vent some more, but thanks for listening.

[natasha10]

gi - you are getting so close too.. whoo hoo!!

katie- I know exactly what you mean and they should feel dumb that they told you the wrong gender for months now. I say we all show have more than one u/s. Idk when or if im having another im sure i will but im sure going ot ask on the 11th at my next appt. they seem to not tell me too much in advance besides what my next appt will be for. Yes school is half way over for the semester I cant wait for a break. I snuck on to check and see if anything happened with you yet. you just never know when it happens. i few days then til your appt and to be induced. your so patient i'd probably be pulling my hair out by now. I must say you made me crack up when you said You saw a penis. I can t believe they were wrong. wow. =) but you had some humor that came along with it. so What have you decided to name him?

Angela- Im trying to sneak away from these darn books and home work but i'll definitely try to enjoy my weekend you too momma.

Has anyone heard from emerald since she had her baby? is she ok? I havent seen anything about her since she delivered. i hope all is ok.

[Stephanieford78]

Natasha - I haven't heard from her. I am a bit worried that she hasn't stopped back in to give a little update. I am just hoping her and her precious little girl are well. Hopefully we will hear from her soon.