Hi Paige
I really feel for your friend the not knowing is always hard. I have had this happen 3 times. My last level was 8 on day 12 post et and 4 two days later.
I have never had and answers as to why but have had a sucessful treatment if that gives your friend any hope. I never did any hpt's but I know it takes a while for the beta to drop. I also had one cycle when it went up before going down. Full af first two times and nothing last time.
I think she needs to talk to a Dr and possibly have another blood test done.
Sorry if this is a bit of a ramble.Just want to send major positive thoughts to your friend and hope she gets through this soon. IVF is so cruel.
On a lighter note I hope you are ok!
Jaye I agree with you didn't you just want to go and give that little boy a hug??
Keep in touch August buddies!
Hi Girls
My hospital rang me at work yesterday. This is the first contact I've had with them since I rang them to say AF had started, the day before test day (which is about 3 weeks ago now).
The nurse casually asked how I was, then said the reason for her call was to see if the cycle had been successful. You could have knocked me down with a feather. I thought she was ringing re next step. I explained that I had phoned when AF arrived, and No, it wasn't a successful cycle. She apologised and said that no note had been taken. I've read lots of times on here of similar situations. How can they do this to us ? It really made a bad day at work, worse. Just had to get that off my chest ...
Sandra x
My hospital rang me at work yesterday. This is the first contact I've had with them since I rang them to say AF had started, the day before test day (which is about 3 weeks ago now).
The nurse casually asked how I was, then said the reason for her call was to see if the cycle had been successful. You could have knocked me down with a feather. I thought she was ringing re next step. I explained that I had phoned when AF arrived, and No, it wasn't a successful cycle. She apologised and said that no note had been taken. I've read lots of times on here of similar situations. How can they do this to us ? It really made a bad day at work, worse. Just had to get that off my chest ...
Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
Hello, everyone!
I hope everyone is doing well.
Staci, I sympathize with you for enduring two hurricanes. The left over rains from Frances and Ivan has hit us really hard. Our whole state is just drenched and I think by the end of this weekend we will all be underwater!
I am almost positive that I will be doing a natural cycle in January. I have very regular periods. The only thing that might throw a wrench into the plans is that my cyles are short. My RE had mentioned natural, but I will know much more in November when I go in to see him. Just a note, however, my blast took 6 days to develop. I know they froze on day 5 for you your embies were a little behind schedule. Well so our mine, so we have that in common.
As Wendy pointed out alot of us are in limbo, or waiting for treatments. From what I have gathered from the board many of us will be going again at the end of this year or the begining of the next. It would be nice if we could all stay in touch and watch over one another during our future treatments. I don't think I could have made it through with out all the support of the ACB's
Jaye, the story about the little boy on the bus was so sad. People don't always appreciate what they have. I am sure when my son was young there were times when he tried to get my attention, but I was to busy with something else like work, cleaning the house, or talking on the phone. Now that he is almost a teenager I am very conscious of what is important. I promise if I am blessed with another little one I will not be so selfish. Dealing with inferlity really does put things in perspective.
Oh, Sand! How horrible if must have been to recieve such a call. Luckily, I have not had to deal with insenstive people at my clinic, but I can imagine how the call must have brought back so many hurtful memories.
In the same line of thought, listen to what happened to me last night.
My hairdresser who is somewhat new and does not know me that well started a conversation about babies of all things! She just went on and on about me and my DH getting pregnant, and she even said that she thought I would have a girl! I listened for way longer than I should have until I finally I just told here that we were trying. I didn't tell here we were trying and having a hard time. I just said said that we were trying. Well, she told me she was sorry and said it in such a pitying tone, I didn't know if I wanted to cry or slap her. Well, I did neither and she got the hint to change the topic, but sometimes I wonder about people.
Lots of Love!
Mia
I hope everyone is doing well.
Staci, I sympathize with you for enduring two hurricanes. The left over rains from Frances and Ivan has hit us really hard. Our whole state is just drenched and I think by the end of this weekend we will all be underwater!
I am almost positive that I will be doing a natural cycle in January. I have very regular periods. The only thing that might throw a wrench into the plans is that my cyles are short. My RE had mentioned natural, but I will know much more in November when I go in to see him. Just a note, however, my blast took 6 days to develop. I know they froze on day 5 for you your embies were a little behind schedule. Well so our mine, so we have that in common.
As Wendy pointed out alot of us are in limbo, or waiting for treatments. From what I have gathered from the board many of us will be going again at the end of this year or the begining of the next. It would be nice if we could all stay in touch and watch over one another during our future treatments. I don't think I could have made it through with out all the support of the ACB's
Jaye, the story about the little boy on the bus was so sad. People don't always appreciate what they have. I am sure when my son was young there were times when he tried to get my attention, but I was to busy with something else like work, cleaning the house, or talking on the phone. Now that he is almost a teenager I am very conscious of what is important. I promise if I am blessed with another little one I will not be so selfish. Dealing with inferlity really does put things in perspective.
Oh, Sand! How horrible if must have been to recieve such a call. Luckily, I have not had to deal with insenstive people at my clinic, but I can imagine how the call must have brought back so many hurtful memories.
In the same line of thought, listen to what happened to me last night.
My hairdresser who is somewhat new and does not know me that well started a conversation about babies of all things! She just went on and on about me and my DH getting pregnant, and she even said that she thought I would have a girl! I listened for way longer than I should have until I finally I just told here that we were trying. I didn't tell here we were trying and having a hard time. I just said said that we were trying. Well, she told me she was sorry and said it in such a pitying tone, I didn't know if I wanted to cry or slap her. Well, I did neither and she got the hint to change the topic, but sometimes I wonder about people.
Lots of Love!
Mia
Wow, thank you all for replying and not making me look foolish! So great to hear from so many buddies!
Becky - you're right, got to look to the future and keep hoping. What's your next move? I'm going to try a few IUIs, hopefully in November and if that doesn't work, then another IVF next summer. Shame we can only have one attempt on NHS, but should feel grateful for that. Have you seen the prices they charge, even for a consultation! Madness...
Mia - yes, hopefully our time will come too. How are you feeling these days? I've been trying to keep myself busy to avoid dwelling on it too much, but not easy to do eh. I find a couple of glasses of home made wine on an evening helps at the moment!
Jaye - can't believe your sad news.
Isn't it so awful that just when you think you're safe, that BFP is snatched away from you. So unfair, but I hope it gives you some hope knowing you can get pregnant.
Ellie - nice to hear from you again. Do enjoy your twins, you are very lucky but I can understand how you'd love to have another baby. You have plenty of time to decide so just enjoy yourself for a while.
Wendy - good luck with your plans for your next cycle. I'll be going for IUI about then so will keep in touch.
Sand - how are you? Finding it getting a bit easier to cope with the result? Time does help but still feel frustrated and feel it's unfair. As I said above, wine is a good distraction at the moment! Hope you are ok.
Staci - hope Ivan didn't come too close to you? Heard it was heading for Florida and was thinking of you again. By your recent post I can see you're alive and well, thank goodness as it sounded particularly bad this time. So sad so many didn't make it. Any more thoughts on moving then? Hope you are happy and well.
Time to go. By the way, how do you get to 'the other side' please? Would love to see how those lucky ones are getting on. Keep in touch all!!
lots of love, Jeanie xxxxx
Becky - you're right, got to look to the future and keep hoping. What's your next move? I'm going to try a few IUIs, hopefully in November and if that doesn't work, then another IVF next summer. Shame we can only have one attempt on NHS, but should feel grateful for that. Have you seen the prices they charge, even for a consultation! Madness...
Mia - yes, hopefully our time will come too. How are you feeling these days? I've been trying to keep myself busy to avoid dwelling on it too much, but not easy to do eh. I find a couple of glasses of home made wine on an evening helps at the moment!
Jaye - can't believe your sad news.
Isn't it so awful that just when you think you're safe, that BFP is snatched away from you. So unfair, but I hope it gives you some hope knowing you can get pregnant. Ellie - nice to hear from you again. Do enjoy your twins, you are very lucky but I can understand how you'd love to have another baby. You have plenty of time to decide so just enjoy yourself for a while.
Wendy - good luck with your plans for your next cycle. I'll be going for IUI about then so will keep in touch.
Sand - how are you? Finding it getting a bit easier to cope with the result? Time does help but still feel frustrated and feel it's unfair. As I said above, wine is a good distraction at the moment! Hope you are ok.
Staci - hope Ivan didn't come too close to you? Heard it was heading for Florida and was thinking of you again. By your recent post I can see you're alive and well, thank goodness as it sounded particularly bad this time. So sad so many didn't make it. Any more thoughts on moving then? Hope you are happy and well.
Time to go. By the way, how do you get to 'the other side' please? Would love to see how those lucky ones are getting on. Keep in touch all!!
lots of love, Jeanie xxxxx
Jeannie:
To get to the other side, click on Pregnant After Treatment...the August Cyclers are under First Trimester Friends. Not a lot of activity lately though. I think we're all holding our breath until 12 weeks...trying not to sneeze, cough etc.
I'm glad everyone is coping the best they can. I truly is a process that screws around with your emotions.
Don't give up on trying the old fashioned way....a friend of a friend just delivered a baby girl last week. She had 4 unsuccessful IVF cycles...which is all her insurance would cover. 2 months after the 4th failed cycle she was PG!
Paige
To get to the other side, click on Pregnant After Treatment...the August Cyclers are under First Trimester Friends. Not a lot of activity lately though. I think we're all holding our breath until 12 weeks...trying not to sneeze, cough etc.
I'm glad everyone is coping the best they can. I truly is a process that screws around with your emotions.
Don't give up on trying the old fashioned way....a friend of a friend just delivered a baby girl last week. She had 4 unsuccessful IVF cycles...which is all her insurance would cover. 2 months after the 4th failed cycle she was PG!
Paige
i am glad i wasnt on the bus. i can nevr seem to keep my big mouth shut!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
how could any human let a child think that he is not wanted.
hope everyone is getting on track and being GOOD
becky
how could any human let a child think that he is not wanted.
hope everyone is getting on track and being GOOD
becky
we werent blessed with our babies to raise here but we our blessed with our grandaughter
and all of our many adopted and foster children that touch our lives
and i am glad to add that our 6th grandchild will be born this spring!!!!
and all of our many adopted and foster children that touch our lives
and i am glad to add that our 6th grandchild will be born this spring!!!!
Hi everyone,
Well, I'm very happy to report that DH and I have actually enjoyed a hurricane free weekend with perfect sunny weather.
Seems like it has been forever since that has happened! My younger sister, who I haven't seen for 2 years even though we are very close, is here visiting from Vermont for the week so we took her to the Animal Kingdom at Disney yesterday. She seemed to have a good time but is more interested in going to some clubs (she is still single) so we will probably try to do that later in the week....although those places do always make me feel even 10 years older than I already am 
!
Mia,
It's so amazing how clueless people can be, isn't it? DH and I were out taking a walk in our neighborhood last week and a lady who was out walking her dog at the end of the street started talking with us. I think the 3rd question that came of of her mouth after asking what house we lived in and how long we've lived there was did we have any children. When DH said "no" she actually gave us a puzzled look and asked if we were newlyweds or something. DH just said "something like that." ( Yes, newlyweds who have been married for almost 5 years!
)
I generally avoid all the neighborhood social functions because it is just too uncomfortable between just about everyone having children around here plus the inevitable questions. Now I feel as though we can't even take a simple walk without getting confronted.
You know, I just don't think that I would ever ask someone I didn't know very well if they had children. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to the issue due to what we've gone through. The worst are those people who ask then start giving you a hard time about it saying things like "well, what's taking you so long?" etc. Every time we go to a social function where there are lots of people, I know we're in for at least several of those. It's like it doesn't even occur to these people that maybe it isn't so easy for everyone. Another issue we often run into is, after we have confided in someone, they just automatically assume the problem is me and start telling me I need to put on weight or start giving me all these common sense tips or old wives tales. It's hardly like I'm going to tell them what the real situation is as it's none of their business so the best I can do is try not to be too hostile as I redirect the conversation to something else. So terribly annoying!!
Paige,
Very encouraging story about your friend. She and her husband must have been in absolute shock! Did they have unexplained infertility (if you don't mind my asking)?
Anyway, I'd better get moving as I haven't figured out what to do to keep my sister entertained today. DH has to go to work so it may be time for shopping.
Hello to everyone else and I'm glad we are staying in touch. I wish they had put a new section on here for those who are in between treatments but I suppose we'll just have to make due with creating new threads.
Staci
Well, I'm very happy to report that DH and I have actually enjoyed a hurricane free weekend with perfect sunny weather.
Seems like it has been forever since that has happened! My younger sister, who I haven't seen for 2 years even though we are very close, is here visiting from Vermont for the week so we took her to the Animal Kingdom at Disney yesterday. She seemed to have a good time but is more interested in going to some clubs (she is still single) so we will probably try to do that later in the week....although those places do always make me feel even 10 years older than I already am !Mia,
It's so amazing how clueless people can be, isn't it? DH and I were out taking a walk in our neighborhood last week and a lady who was out walking her dog at the end of the street started talking with us. I think the 3rd question that came of of her mouth after asking what house we lived in and how long we've lived there was did we have any children. When DH said "no" she actually gave us a puzzled look and asked if we were newlyweds or something. DH just said "something like that." ( Yes, newlyweds who have been married for almost 5 years!
)I generally avoid all the neighborhood social functions because it is just too uncomfortable between just about everyone having children around here plus the inevitable questions. Now I feel as though we can't even take a simple walk without getting confronted.
You know, I just don't think that I would ever ask someone I didn't know very well if they had children. Maybe I'm just more sensitive to the issue due to what we've gone through. The worst are those people who ask then start giving you a hard time about it saying things like "well, what's taking you so long?" etc. Every time we go to a social function where there are lots of people, I know we're in for at least several of those. It's like it doesn't even occur to these people that maybe it isn't so easy for everyone. Another issue we often run into is, after we have confided in someone, they just automatically assume the problem is me and start telling me I need to put on weight or start giving me all these common sense tips or old wives tales. It's hardly like I'm going to tell them what the real situation is as it's none of their business so the best I can do is try not to be too hostile as I redirect the conversation to something else. So terribly annoying!!
Paige,
Very encouraging story about your friend. She and her husband must have been in absolute shock! Did they have unexplained infertility (if you don't mind my asking)?
Anyway, I'd better get moving as I haven't figured out what to do to keep my sister entertained today. DH has to go to work so it may be time for shopping.
Hello to everyone else and I'm glad we are staying in touch. I wish they had put a new section on here for those who are in between treatments but I suppose we'll just have to make due with creating new threads.
Staci
Me 35/DH 41
TTC 4 years
Diagnosis: MF infertility
IVF/ICSI April 2004: -tive
FET Aug. 2004 (canceled due to cysts)
FET Jan 2005: -tive
FET Aug. 2005
TTC 4 years
Diagnosis: MF infertility
IVF/ICSI April 2004: -tive
FET Aug. 2004 (canceled due to cysts)
FET Jan 2005: -tive
FET Aug. 2005
i am glad that youhave made it threw the huracane.
and finaly have some nice weather. it is still raining here.
that is great that your sister hhis there.
i am just getting ready to go meet with my sisters.
but i understand about the clubing i am to old for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
try and have a good time shopping
becky
and finaly have some nice weather. it is still raining here.
that is great that your sister hhis there.
i am just getting ready to go meet with my sisters.
but i understand about the clubing i am to old for it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
try and have a good time shopping
becky
we werent blessed with our babies to raise here but we our blessed with our grandaughter
and all of our many adopted and foster children that touch our lives
and i am glad to add that our 6th grandchild will be born this spring!!!!
and all of our many adopted and foster children that touch our lives
and i am glad to add that our 6th grandchild will be born this spring!!!!
Staci:
I'm glad you finally had a dry weekend! My friends were "unexplained" infertility. My own situation was male factor...which I saw was on your signature as well. My clinic says that MF is easier to deal with than possible egg quality, so hopefully this next cycle will be successful for you. I know what you mean about not wanting to go through ivf cycles for the next couple of years, I was the exact same way. In fact after this first cycle I told my husband forget it, I'm not doing it again. We also didn't get any frosties, so seriously...this was it.
PS: If someone told me I had to gain weight, I'd probably give them a big wet kiss!
Paige
I'm glad you finally had a dry weekend! My friends were "unexplained" infertility. My own situation was male factor...which I saw was on your signature as well. My clinic says that MF is easier to deal with than possible egg quality, so hopefully this next cycle will be successful for you. I know what you mean about not wanting to go through ivf cycles for the next couple of years, I was the exact same way. In fact after this first cycle I told my husband forget it, I'm not doing it again. We also didn't get any frosties, so seriously...this was it.
PS: If someone told me I had to gain weight, I'd probably give them a big wet kiss!
Paige
Hi everyone
Staci - glad to see you made it through the hurricanes, hopefully thats the last of them for a while. You are so lucky living near disney though, I love it there, me & dh are big kids.
I know what you mean about people asking you about children, I'm wicked though if I'm having a bad day I tell them its becuase I can't have any, then its their problem and they feel embarassed for asking stupid questions.... I never see why I should make myself feel uncomfortable about lying that 'its not the right time' or 'I'm concentrating on my career'.
I suppose its different maybe if its not really your issue to discuss, ours problems are due to severe endometriosis.. i.e me but I'd hate to think my dh loves me any less for it.
Paige seems to be on to something though, it seems that those with mf have got pregnant much easier than those of us with female problems. I know I am hoping that after being pregnant this time, even for a really short time that my body remembers what to do when the embryos go back. Happy to carry on with the IVF but not sure I could wait another 5 attemps till it works again.
Hope everyone is doing ok.
Wendy
Staci - glad to see you made it through the hurricanes, hopefully thats the last of them for a while. You are so lucky living near disney though, I love it there, me & dh are big kids.
I know what you mean about people asking you about children, I'm wicked though if I'm having a bad day I tell them its becuase I can't have any, then its their problem and they feel embarassed for asking stupid questions.... I never see why I should make myself feel uncomfortable about lying that 'its not the right time' or 'I'm concentrating on my career'.
I suppose its different maybe if its not really your issue to discuss, ours problems are due to severe endometriosis.. i.e me but I'd hate to think my dh loves me any less for it.
Paige seems to be on to something though, it seems that those with mf have got pregnant much easier than those of us with female problems. I know I am hoping that after being pregnant this time, even for a really short time that my body remembers what to do when the embryos go back. Happy to carry on with the IVF but not sure I could wait another 5 attemps till it works again.
Hope everyone is doing ok.
Wendy
TTC 7yrs, Me 35 (severe endo) DH 36
IVF nov06 8th time lucky BFP! - 1 baby boy
FET Aug o8 - BFN
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IVF nov06 8th time lucky BFP! - 1 baby boy
FET Aug o8 - BFN
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Hi August Buddies!
What a lovely idea for a thread. Now I know where to find you all and keep track of when you are cycling. I hope every one of the ACBs has little one(s) next year.
And those who have commented that it isn't pretty on the "other side" are so right! I've had pains, bleeding, and all kinds of unpromising symptoms. Each time I think it is definately the end. I'm not sure when/if I will feel like it is actually going to happen.
I miss you all - hope you are well and planning some good vacations. I just booked for Maui in January with DH. He hasn't had a vacation in 2 1/2 years, so it's definately time.
Alicia
What a lovely idea for a thread. Now I know where to find you all and keep track of when you are cycling. I hope every one of the ACBs has little one(s) next year.
And those who have commented that it isn't pretty on the "other side" are so right! I've had pains, bleeding, and all kinds of unpromising symptoms. Each time I think it is definately the end. I'm not sure when/if I will feel like it is actually going to happen.
I miss you all - hope you are well and planning some good vacations. I just booked for Maui in January with DH. He hasn't had a vacation in 2 1/2 years, so it's definately time.
Alicia
Hey everyone,
yes, it's nice to be in touch. AF has now arrived, and i'm hoping that means we can try again in November, just before Xmas. We decided to 'devote' 2004 to IVF - didn't realise what that would really mean. I don't know how many more I've got in me, but I think I can get through one more.
Wendy, I would really like to know (and I hope you don't mind me asking), how have you kept going? I mean, obviously we all have a point when it's enough, and after 2 goes - both of which had some hope - I feel like I can do one more. But I don't know if I could go through it anohter 3 times, especially with nothing to show for it (so lucky you got that +ve last time, it's surely a great sign for next time). Did you ever think of stopping? Pls don't answer if it's too personal, but it's something I've started wondering - when is it enough. Probably coz I'm still getting over what's just happened so not feeling very positive.
Can I add 'you don't want to leave it too long...' to the list of REALLY annoying comments usually made by complete strangers??? How can people be so unthinking.
Jaye.
yes, it's nice to be in touch. AF has now arrived, and i'm hoping that means we can try again in November, just before Xmas. We decided to 'devote' 2004 to IVF - didn't realise what that would really mean. I don't know how many more I've got in me, but I think I can get through one more.
Wendy, I would really like to know (and I hope you don't mind me asking), how have you kept going? I mean, obviously we all have a point when it's enough, and after 2 goes - both of which had some hope - I feel like I can do one more. But I don't know if I could go through it anohter 3 times, especially with nothing to show for it (so lucky you got that +ve last time, it's surely a great sign for next time). Did you ever think of stopping? Pls don't answer if it's too personal, but it's something I've started wondering - when is it enough. Probably coz I'm still getting over what's just happened so not feeling very positive.
Can I add 'you don't want to leave it too long...' to the list of REALLY annoying comments usually made by complete strangers??? How can people be so unthinking.
Jaye.
me 34, dh 36
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
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How much more can we go through?
Hi again Girls.
Just wanted to reply to the messages about how many goes you can stand. I have just been through my 2nd in August/Sept & am now waiting till after April 05 to see if we will all be allowed 1 free go on the NHS. It still won't be free for me & hubby however, as we have ICSI each time, as it is him that has the problem, not me, so will probably have to pay the ICSI costs, around £500.00, hopefully no more. The longer the wait in between sessions though, the more I go off the idea. You would think that after the 1st session, knowing what to expect, I would be OK about doing it again. This was not the case this time. Even the week before I started my down regulation injections I was a neurotic wreck. My poor boss had me in tears at least once, if not twice in a few days. I am surprised she puts up with me. I really do hate injections. I thought after so many it would get easier, but it doesn't. I have to hug a teddy bear when my hubby gives me them. I know it sounds daft, but it helps a bit, so does a couple of squares of my favourite white chocolate afterwards!
I am dreading the next lot. It seems an age till then & all you can think about in between is babies, babies babies!!!!! Everyone around seems to be pregnant. Doesn't it drive you nuts. I am getting fed up pretending that it doesn't bother me & I am OK about it all. I really don't think I could go through any more after the next one, apart from the cost, my body wouldn't put up with it I think. To think we have to go through all that pain again & for what, possibly nothing yet again!
I feel awful, but sometimes I wonder if I would have a problem if I wasn't with my hubby, it sounds really bad, but I can't help thinking about it. Having said that, the eggs I had did fertilise, even though it was only 1 this time, so he must be producing something, maybe I do have a problem keeping them afterall, but no-one seems to be able to tell you much do they. I have a follow up consultation on the 18th October, but I don't suppose that will tell me any more than we know. They just say maybe next time! I don't know about you, but I can't take many more next times. I'm tired, I've had enough already.
Staci. So glad you are OK & the hurricanes seem to be over & you had a nice sunny weekend. Enjoy spending time with your sister. I am so looking forward to seeing my brother in January in New Zealand. I really miss having him to talk to. We do e-mail, but it's not the same. He totally understands me.
Does anyone else who has male factor problems feel the way I do. A bit resentful really. Don't get me wrong, please, I really do love him, but I can't stop these feelings.
Love & best wishes, keep in touch!, Mandy. xxx
Just wanted to reply to the messages about how many goes you can stand. I have just been through my 2nd in August/Sept & am now waiting till after April 05 to see if we will all be allowed 1 free go on the NHS. It still won't be free for me & hubby however, as we have ICSI each time, as it is him that has the problem, not me, so will probably have to pay the ICSI costs, around £500.00, hopefully no more. The longer the wait in between sessions though, the more I go off the idea. You would think that after the 1st session, knowing what to expect, I would be OK about doing it again. This was not the case this time. Even the week before I started my down regulation injections I was a neurotic wreck. My poor boss had me in tears at least once, if not twice in a few days. I am surprised she puts up with me. I really do hate injections. I thought after so many it would get easier, but it doesn't. I have to hug a teddy bear when my hubby gives me them. I know it sounds daft, but it helps a bit, so does a couple of squares of my favourite white chocolate afterwards!
I am dreading the next lot. It seems an age till then & all you can think about in between is babies, babies babies!!!!! Everyone around seems to be pregnant. Doesn't it drive you nuts. I am getting fed up pretending that it doesn't bother me & I am OK about it all. I really don't think I could go through any more after the next one, apart from the cost, my body wouldn't put up with it I think. To think we have to go through all that pain again & for what, possibly nothing yet again!
I feel awful, but sometimes I wonder if I would have a problem if I wasn't with my hubby, it sounds really bad, but I can't help thinking about it. Having said that, the eggs I had did fertilise, even though it was only 1 this time, so he must be producing something, maybe I do have a problem keeping them afterall, but no-one seems to be able to tell you much do they. I have a follow up consultation on the 18th October, but I don't suppose that will tell me any more than we know. They just say maybe next time! I don't know about you, but I can't take many more next times. I'm tired, I've had enough already.
Staci. So glad you are OK & the hurricanes seem to be over & you had a nice sunny weekend. Enjoy spending time with your sister. I am so looking forward to seeing my brother in January in New Zealand. I really miss having him to talk to. We do e-mail, but it's not the same. He totally understands me.
Does anyone else who has male factor problems feel the way I do. A bit resentful really. Don't get me wrong, please, I really do love him, but I can't stop these feelings.
Love & best wishes, keep in touch!, Mandy. xxx
Mandy
Hey August Buddies!!
Thought I'd try and top your 'most annoying' comments..One woman asked when I was going to have children and I answered directly that we were trying but having difficulty. she then launched into a monologue about how incredibly fertile she was and that if she ljust looked at her husband she would fall pregnant..Gee, thanks for sharing ..The other woman knew about our difficulties (I'm unexplained but I've never been tested for endo) and I told her about this other woman's response and how insensitive it was. Somehow, this woman then proceded to tell me the VERY SAME THING, i.e. that she is incredibly fertile and gets pregnant so easily. I think I crossed my eyes at her after this response..I mean, c'mon, what's going on here... 
People in England have been much more sensitive/private about our not having children and not asking about it. Though one woman who does know did respond, when I told her, with that golden nugget, 'Well, you shouldn't wait too long..' No really? I mean, were only going through this sometimes hellish expereince so no, we really don't know what the hell we're doing and could really use your considerable expertise..That one really pissed me off, because shethinks she is everyone's mother and we all need to know better..GRRRR!
OK, thanks for letting me share! Wish us Sept./Oct. Buddies luck and you should know that all of you, pregnant or not, have been excellent role models. Best to everyone.
eacole
Thought I'd try and top your 'most annoying' comments..One woman asked when I was going to have children and I answered directly that we were trying but having difficulty. she then launched into a monologue about how incredibly fertile she was and that if she ljust looked at her husband she would fall pregnant..Gee, thanks for sharing
..The other woman knew about our difficulties (I'm unexplained but I've never been tested for endo) and I told her about this other woman's response and how insensitive it was. Somehow, this woman then proceded to tell me the VERY SAME THING, i.e. that she is incredibly fertile and gets pregnant so easily. I think I crossed my eyes at her after this response..I mean, c'mon, what's going on here... People in England have been much more sensitive/private about our not having children and not asking about it. Though one woman who does know did respond, when I told her, with that golden nugget, 'Well, you shouldn't wait too long..' No really? I mean, were only going through this sometimes hellish expereince so no, we really don't know what the hell we're doing and could really use your considerable expertise..That one really pissed me off, because shethinks she is everyone's mother and we all need to know better..GRRRR!
OK, thanks for letting me share! Wish us Sept./Oct. Buddies luck and you should know that all of you, pregnant or not, have been excellent role models. Best to everyone.
eacole
Mandy:
Don't feel bad about feeling resentful towards dh. I had a tremendous amount of pent up animosity during the whole cycle. I mean...we (you and I) were fine, so how is it that we still have to go through everything and all they (the men) have to do is think happy thoughts and produce a sample in a cup? I even asked my dh...so how about a couple rolls in the hay with your brother? Who happens to be an underwear model
. That really didn't go over so well! Though my dh suggested that maybe his brother and he both produce a sample and we do IUI instead of IVF...IUI was not an option for us with his numbers alone, so I atleast got him thinking about it.
So what I'm saying is...don't feel bad about being resentful. I had LOADS of it. I think he also had a lot of guilt after seeing everything that I had to go through. After the cycle he agreed to put in an inground pool....now that had to be some guilt working
Paige
Paige
Don't feel bad about feeling resentful towards dh. I had a tremendous amount of pent up animosity during the whole cycle. I mean...we (you and I) were fine, so how is it that we still have to go through everything and all they (the men) have to do is think happy thoughts and produce a sample in a cup? I even asked my dh...so how about a couple rolls in the hay with your brother? Who happens to be an underwear model
. That really didn't go over so well! Though my dh suggested that maybe his brother and he both produce a sample and we do IUI instead of IVF...IUI was not an option for us with his numbers alone, so I atleast got him thinking about it. So what I'm saying is...don't feel bad about being resentful. I had LOADS of it. I think he also had a lot of guilt after seeing everything that I had to go through. After the cycle he agreed to put in an inground pool....now that had to be some guilt working
Paige
Paige