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Post by Paige »

Jaye:

I think you were very brave to send the card and explain your situation as well as feelings. It must have been therapuetic if your feelings towards your pregnant coworker have changed for the better. Very healthy of you, Dr. Phil would be proud.

And Alica, I'm sure we're all very sensitive to tooting the pregnancy horn because we know how it made us feel when we weren't having any luck. So isn't it interesting that you are the target for the cold shoulder now that you are pregnant? I hope everyone on this board is lucky enough to get that cold shoulder sometime soon! If anyone can understand those feeling we can.

I hope all of the August buddies are doing well.

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Post by jaye »

Hi Paige and Alicia,

Yes, may be all be the object of other people's envy soon! Alicia, have you considered telling the person you're talking about what you went through? I wonder this - whether it would make them feel better or worse. I know it seems to me like noone except me (who I've actually met :) ) has ever gone through this before. I would like to think I'd give people hope when it finally works for me. Coz if anyone can understand how she's feeling it will be us.

Jaye
me 34, dh 36
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
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Hi all,

Jaye,

Where are you in your cycle right now? Are you still stimming? I haven't checked the other threads recently.

I also think it was great what you did with sending the card. At some point, I may have to do a similar sort of thing with my SIL....although she is already well aware of what I've gone through as my MIL has kept her posted. At the moment I'm just feeling like I never want to see her baby or have to be involved in any family function where they'll be. I just have this feeling I'd be bitchy towards her even though I know it's wrong and that I don't even want to set eyes on the baby. Basically, I'm just feeling like a complete witch about the whole thing....and I'm not a mean person. Really!

Paige/Alicia,

It must seem strange actually being on the other side of things now! I know that if I saw a pregnant woman and found out she had gone though IVF, I'd probably feel less envious/bitter. I know what a trial the whole thing was to go through and anyone who goes to those lengths certainly deserves to succeed. I'd also know that they would be totally understanding of my situation. I guess I get most irritated by those who just get pregnant so easily naturally .... you know those couples who have just always assumed it would come easily and then it does. They are usually the ones who are so quick to say stupid things to infertile couples like "just stop stressing out about it and it will happen", etc. They just have no idea what it's like to try every possible thing imaginable and still see -ives month after month (or should I say year after year?!).

Wendy,

I think you asked what classes I might take. Actually, I'm not looking to work on a degree or anything (already spent 6 years in college getting a MA in Psychology which I never used!). I was thinking more along the lines of painting or craft classes at the community college. I really just need some sort of hobby...besides working out!

Mia,

Are you still around? How are things? Haven't seen any posts from you for a long time.

Sand,

I know what you mean about needing a break but mine has extended a little too long at this point. It will be a year in April since my first try. I don't understand where the time went! I was really feeling ready to go for it this month if I could have. Meanwhile, it seems like DH's travel schedule is getting really out of control. He used to travel mainly within the state but now has a lot of out of state travel coming up. I'm starting to despair of ever being able to fit a cycle in around his travel. I wish I could conquer my needle phobia. If I could at least manage to give myself the downregging injections then the only time I would need him home would be for 5 days of the progesterone injections and taking me for the ET. No stimming as I'm doing a FET so it's really just the downregging shots. I wish they would let us sniff here instead.

Jools,

How are you? Have you been able to reach a compromise with DH regarding your next step?


Anyway, I can't believe I've typed so much this early. Please excuse any grammatical errors as I'm not even fully awake yet! :)
Hope everyone is having a great weekend.

Staci
Me 35/DH 41
TTC 4 years
Diagnosis: MF infertility
IVF/ICSI April 2004: -tive
FET Aug. 2004 (canceled due to cysts)
FET Jan 2005: -tive
FET Aug. 2005
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Post by AMITHIS »

Jaye,

I've just checked the Oct/Nov. thread to see how things are going with you. How did your scan go today? I can't believe your EC is coming up this week. Did doing a cycle without downregging seem incredibly fast to you?! Wishing you the best for EC this week!!

Staci
Me 35/DH 41
TTC 4 years
Diagnosis: MF infertility
IVF/ICSI April 2004: -tive
FET Aug. 2004 (canceled due to cysts)
FET Jan 2005: -tive
FET Aug. 2005
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Post by Paige »

Staci:

You can do the shots! My dh travels quite a bit too. So I had no choice but to give them to myself. It wasn't exactly fun, but I got through it. The progesterone was another story though....
I have a friend in Georgia whose husband is a pilot. She had to learn how to do the Progesterone shots herself. They taught her some sitting in a chair and looking in a mirror backwards technique. She's tiny like you are 5'4", 100 lbs. Her twins girls are over 1 yrs old now!

Just know that you're stronger than you think, and if you put your mind to it, you can do anything you choose.

Paige
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Post by alicia »

Jaye,

Yes, I have told her a little about what we went through. I also did say that I felt stupid to have not gotten tested until after 2 horrible years of trying. If I had it to do over again, I certainly would have gotten tested earlier. I was just one of those who thought there could not possibly be a problem with me. And good luck for EC this week. I hope you get lots of beautiful embies.

Staci,

It must be so hard with your SIL having a new baby. But I really do think it will get easier with some time. Of course it is never good to push yourself to socialize with them before you're ready, but time is an amazing healer of pain. First of all, of course it is hardest now because you've had to wait so long and it sounds like you don't have a firm date for your next tmt.

I traded contact info with another woman in my injection training class so we could help eachother out when our DHs were away on business. You could also travel with him and/or go in to the clinic for the shots. They said it costs a bit more to get the daily shot a the clinic, but they would have done it if necessary.

I STILL feel bitter when I meet women who get pg without even trying. I'll have to find a way to get over that before I join any Mom's clubs though. It won't make fitting in any easier.

Paige,

Yes, it is strange to be on the other side of that fence, but it is easier because I completely understand it. Now that I know what the problem is, I would never take it personally. And I agree that every one of us on here should be able to experience it!

Alicia
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Paige/Alicia,

Thanks for the votes of confidence....although I don't know if you'd feel the same if you had seen what an incredible coward I am even when DH is giving me the injections. We're talking stress ball in hand, eyes closed and about 20 minutes of ice first. I can't even watch him prepare the injection! Nevertheless, I think I'm going to have no choice if I want to do this sometime in the near future. So much for giving up alcohol during the downregging part of things this time :? !

Paige, I can't believe your friend does the progesterone shots herself. Now, that is one determined (and brave) person! Anyway, I'm going to talk with DH about this and see if he could show me how to do them next time. I did travel with him last time a few times so that he could do them for me. It wasn't a big problem when he was traveling in state. It's the out of state trips that involve more days away and flying that are an issue...especially since we have cats. Anyway, if I can do the downregging ones myself, then, I'd really just have to worry about the progesterone shots (which I only have to do for 5 days prior to ET). Actually, when it comes to those, my clinic probably would do a day or two for me if he was out of town. Ideally, I'd like him to be here for the ET but I guess it's not absolutely necessary. All I know at this point is that I am determined to get going. If I wait for the perfect time, it's just not going to ever happen.

Well, here I am rambling on and I just realized Paige is on her way to Aruba! Sorry, Alicia, I guess you are the only one stuck listening to me.
:)

I guess I should read some of the other threads since I have no idea what is going on with anyone right now.

Hope everyone is doing ok!

Staci
Me 35/DH 41
TTC 4 years
Diagnosis: MF infertility
IVF/ICSI April 2004: -tive
FET Aug. 2004 (canceled due to cysts)
FET Jan 2005: -tive
FET Aug. 2005
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Staci, I'm here listening too!

Haven't been around much - read my rant on the Oct/Nov boards if you're interested in what's not been going according to plan THIS time - but EC was successful today, 10 eggs. Yay me! Yes, the short protocol has been amazingly fast - it was 13 days today that we found out we were starting again, and here I am at EC already. I am amazed.

You know I don't have any problems at all when DH gives me the shots, but I think I would find it really hard to give them to myself. DH distracts me when he's giving me the shots by getting me to do math problems in my head - this really works! So how would I do that myself! But I guess if it was that or nothing I would do it, because I know I do want this. I think Alicia's idea about getting someone else also going through it to do it is a good one - the world is full of people going through this, after all, and maybe you could also help out someone else at the same time? Anyway, it seems like you're seeming more ready to go than you have been, so I'm glad. You've got frosties, too, haven't you? So isn't that a simpler procedure?

I was in theatre today and the Dr. and anaesthetist were discussing Brat Camp - I guess UK must have already had this but we've just got it now - don't know if it's made it to the US or not? Anyway, I am addicted to it, and it was so funny listening to these really intelligent, serious medical professionals talking about Fran's tantrums and when James has learned anything from the whole experience or not. (Hope SOMEone knows what I'm talking about...)

Jaye
me 34, dh 36
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
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Post by Mia »

Hello Everyone,
I have been around, I just haven't had time to post. Busy, busy, busy!!
AF should arrive next week. As soon as it does I can ring the clinic and begin the BCPs to prepare for treatment after the holidays.

Jaye,
Ten eggs that is great. Wow, short protocol does go quickly. I am already getting my hopes up for you! Calm down Mia.

Gotta go. Only have time for a quicky!
Mia
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Post by jill dickens »

Hi Jaye,
10 eggs good for you that's great lets hope there are some lovely embies for ET let us know how you are getting on love JIll x
TTC nearly 9 years
Raised FSH
natural pg M/C, 12 months on Clomid +ve M/C
1st Egg Donor IVF Cycle Oct 04 +ve M/C my dream is over
Nov 04 Began the adoption journey
Nov 06 our beautiful baby girl has come home we were matched at just over 12 months
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Post by alicia »

Jaye,

Wow, you're right. That was really fast! Congratulations on ten lovely eggs! I remember you had said that you had poor response in the past, so this is an especially good number, yes? I hope they all grow into healthy embies for you. Good luck with the ET, too. I would love to see all of our August Buddies have success!

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Post by AMITHIS »

Jaye,

Well done! How are you feeling? Are you having a 3 day or 5 day transfer? (oops, sorry...I should just look at the Oct./Nov. board instead of having you repeat everything!). You're right; Alicia's idea was a good one but the problem is my clinic doesn't really have anything where you can meet others who are getting treatment there. Plus, I think I might have an even more difficult time giving a shot to someone else than I would giving one to myself! I read about these auto injector pens which I might look into getting. I don't totally understand how they work but part of what appeals to me is that at least I wouldn't have to see the actual needle going into my skin.

Meanwhile, DH hasn't mentioned a thing about when we are doing the FET and he keeps planning business trips months in advance to various places and asking me if I want to go with him. I don't understand since, for awhile, he was completely focused on my doing it as soon as possible...and that was when I didn't feel ready yet. We never seem to be on the same page with this stuff.

Anyway, I'm off to buy some hpt's since AF is due around now. I know - pathetic. At least I found a place that sells them $ 1 each so I am only spending the same amount for each test as for a lottery ticket...and, according to our clinic with the one in a million chance we have of conceiving naturally, I have about as much chance of getting a +ive result as winning the lottery. :?

Staci
Me 35/DH 41
TTC 4 years
Diagnosis: MF infertility
IVF/ICSI April 2004: -tive
FET Aug. 2004 (canceled due to cysts)
FET Jan 2005: -tive
FET Aug. 2005
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Post by Sand »

Jaye - I'm so pleased you've gone through this cycle soooo quickly ! It must have seemed a doddle compared to last time. 10 eggs - wow, that's such good news ! You made me lol about the maths problems - I'll try that next time. I usually try to think about something insane, so it might as well be maths, seeing as I love numbers anyway :) Best of luck for ET - we'll be thinking about you !

Sandra x
Me 41 yrs old - dh 49 yrs old. ttc 110 yrs.
1st cycle (ICSI)....Mar 04 -ve.
2nd cycle (ICSI)....Aug 04 -ve.
3rd cycle FET........May 05 -ve.
4th cycle (ICSI) ... Feb 06 -ve
5th cycle FET ..... Feb/Mar 11
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Post by jaye »

Thanks for the positive thoughts, everyone.

Staci, you made me laugh with the lottery joke - I feel like this whole thing is just a lottery anyway, so good luck!

jaye
me 34, dh 36
TTC 3 yrs, lap oct 02, 'unexplained'
3 x IUIs 2003, all -ve
IVF 4/04 & 8/04, both early m/c. 11/04 -ve
So much in life to be grateful for.
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Post by wendy30 »

Hi Everyone

Hope you are all doing ok.

Jaye - WOW, I can't believe how fast it has all gone for you and 10 eggs you must be really pleased. When is your ET, fingers crossed for you!

Staci - how are you, I know what you mean about doing pregnancy tests, I still do them as well. well you never know. I always think someone always wants to tell me one of these really annoying stories about giving up then finding out you are pregnant anyway, might as well be one of us. I watched a tv programme that talked about these injector pens, they are supposed to be good for those that don't like needles. I do my own, it hurts more when dh does it, I make him do the mixing bit so he's still involved.

Sand - are you sorted with a holiday yet? God its so cold here!

Alicia - hope everything is going well with you.

Paige - hope you have a great holiday.

Mia - hope your AF arrives on time so you can get started again after Christmas.

I was at the hospital yesterday, I'm now 74 days without AF & definately not pregnant, they think its something to do with my miscarraige and have given me tablets to bring on my AF, talk about feeling useless I can't even manage to have my period now. Anyway this should take a couple of weeks and I can start downregging as soon as they start so December might still be an option although it looks more like January, still knowing my FET will be happening soon should help my willpower over Christmas to keep from having too much wine & chocolate.

Speak to you all soon.

Wendy
TTC 7yrs, Me 35 (severe endo) DH 36
IVF nov06 8th time lucky BFP! - 1 baby boy
FET Aug o8 - BFN
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