Hi everyone,
went for another ultrasound today as I had heavy bleeding yesterday, including passing clots of blood. Very scary. The one embie still looks good, heartbeat and all. It does appear though that I am miscarrying a twin as the other egg sac has collapsed. There is nothing I can do about the bleeding, but the concern is that the cramping and bleeding may miscarry the other embie. I am hanging on to hope here as I feel it will be be alright in the end, but am s till quite anxious about it. Has anyone else been in a simmilar situation, in which there was two but lost one? My doctor says that what often happens is that the other, when it is so early like this, just gets absorbed into the body. Unfortunately, that is not what is happening to me.
I know all I can do is wait for my next scan this thursday-but if there are any hopeful stories out there in which at least the other embie survived when a twin miscarried, that would be really reassuring and comforting...I so could use it!
BEst,
Elizabeth
Miscarrying a twin-any advice
Elizabeth, so sorry to hear your news. It must be a frightening and stressful time for you.
I know a not-quite-the-same story. I'm e-friends with a woman in the US who had a non-identical twin die at 28 weeks last month. The other twin is still fine although the birth has been brought forward. I know this isn't the same situation for you but it is possible for one twin to survive. I also think this happened to a friend of someone on the board much earlier this year.
Please let us know what happens at your next scan. I'll be thinking of you.
hugs
Debra.
I know a not-quite-the-same story. I'm e-friends with a woman in the US who had a non-identical twin die at 28 weeks last month. The other twin is still fine although the birth has been brought forward. I know this isn't the same situation for you but it is possible for one twin to survive. I also think this happened to a friend of someone on the board much earlier this year.
Please let us know what happens at your next scan. I'll be thinking of you.
hugs
Debra.
Elizabeth
I am so sorry to read about the horrendous time you are having. You must be beside yourself with worry. I can't give you any advice on twins but I do want to tell you that you are in my thoughts and I truly do hope that everything is ok on Thursday.
Look after yourself.
Jackie
I am so sorry to read about the horrendous time you are having. You must be beside yourself with worry. I can't give you any advice on twins but I do want to tell you that you are in my thoughts and I truly do hope that everything is ok on Thursday.
Look after yourself.
Jackie
Me 36 husband 38. Been together for over 16 years.
2000 -2003 Clomid
Sept - Oct 03 IVF abandoned due to poor response.
Dec -Feb 04 IVF early m/c
Sept -Nov 04 IVF ++++
10 July 2005 -Our precious son Joshua James was born.
2000 -2003 Clomid
Sept - Oct 03 IVF abandoned due to poor response.
Dec -Feb 04 IVF early m/c
Sept -Nov 04 IVF ++++
10 July 2005 -Our precious son Joshua James was born.
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TanyaVincent-Tomlinson
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Hi Elizabeth
What an awful thing to be happening to you- I really do feel for you. I am not sure how far you are gone, but I had vanishing twin between 8 and 12 weeks. I didn't have any bleeding, but the doctor said it was possible that I would do.
I am now in my 22nd week and all is well with our remaining little fighter.
I hope that all goes well on Thursday- I will have everything crossed for you. Keep thinking positive thoughts and believe that your baby is a little fighter.
Lots of hugs,
Tanya x
What an awful thing to be happening to you- I really do feel for you. I am not sure how far you are gone, but I had vanishing twin between 8 and 12 weeks. I didn't have any bleeding, but the doctor said it was possible that I would do.
I am now in my 22nd week and all is well with our remaining little fighter.
I hope that all goes well on Thursday- I will have everything crossed for you. Keep thinking positive thoughts and believe that your baby is a little fighter.
Lots of hugs,
Tanya x
NC-IVF in July 2004. BFP, looking forward to a little bouncing easter 2005 arrival!
me 30 yrs; DH 30 yrs
me 30 yrs; DH 30 yrs
Hi sorry to hear about your news, but have faith, I am one of the oldies from last year and I lost a twin at 8 weeks had two weeks of bleeding and the other one was ok and had a little boy in May last year happy and healthy and getting very big 7 months old now.
so keep hanging on in there there is still hope.
Love
Wibbs & joshua xxxx
so keep hanging on in there there is still hope.
Love
Wibbs & joshua xxxx
Hi,
Thanks, everyone, who replied, you've cheered me and have given me hope. It was especially good to hear your stories, Wibbs and Tanya, and a big thank you Debra for your speedy post to me-it came just in time as I was succumbing to a wave of despair..Thanks too Jackie for thinking of me.
I've rested alot since Monday. So far, I feel as if I'm slowly recovering and healing. There has been scant blood today, mostly darker stuff, but my tummy feels as if it was the scene of a battleground-just sore and swollen. This morning I had terrific nausea and this heartened me! As I said, feeling more and more hopeful. I'll let you know how the scan goes tomorrow. I feel pretty positive about it.
Thank you again. I don't know what I'd do without your help, really!
Best to all,
Elizabeth
Thanks, everyone, who replied, you've cheered me and have given me hope. It was especially good to hear your stories, Wibbs and Tanya, and a big thank you Debra for your speedy post to me-it came just in time as I was succumbing to a wave of despair..Thanks too Jackie for thinking of me.
I've rested alot since Monday. So far, I feel as if I'm slowly recovering and healing. There has been scant blood today, mostly darker stuff, but my tummy feels as if it was the scene of a battleground-just sore and swollen. This morning I had terrific nausea and this heartened me! As I said, feeling more and more hopeful. I'll let you know how the scan goes tomorrow. I feel pretty positive about it.
Thank you again. I don't know what I'd do without your help, really!
Best to all,
Elizabeth
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TanyaVincent-Tomlinson
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Hi everyone,
Well, the embryo is just fine, growing, over 11 mm's now though the doctor scanning me is new and apparently didn't measure the head in this figure, according to the Dr. looking over his shoulder. So don't know exactly how big it really is.
I wish the Doctor could be more reassuring but they are very cautious at my clinic. She said that because of my situation, I have less than 95% chance (though how much less noone can really say) of carrying to term, even though a heartbeat was identified at 6 weeks. She also said to me that even if I don't carry this one to term, because I have done so well with the treatment, she is sure I'll eventually have a baby. I didn't find this exactly reassuring, though she meant it to be.
So I'm feeling a bit down though I know I should just be happy and stay positive. But with this caveat, it is difficult to feel unabashedly happy and pleased. What I really wanted was a hearty congratulations and a referral to the antenatal clinic, but not to be so. Another scan next thursday instead.
Best,
Elizabeth
Well, the embryo is just fine, growing, over 11 mm's now though the doctor scanning me is new and apparently didn't measure the head in this figure, according to the Dr. looking over his shoulder. So don't know exactly how big it really is.
I wish the Doctor could be more reassuring but they are very cautious at my clinic. She said that because of my situation, I have less than 95% chance (though how much less noone can really say) of carrying to term, even though a heartbeat was identified at 6 weeks. She also said to me that even if I don't carry this one to term, because I have done so well with the treatment, she is sure I'll eventually have a baby. I didn't find this exactly reassuring, though she meant it to be.
So I'm feeling a bit down though I know I should just be happy and stay positive. But with this caveat, it is difficult to feel unabashedly happy and pleased. What I really wanted was a hearty congratulations and a referral to the antenatal clinic, but not to be so. Another scan next thursday instead.
Best,
Elizabeth
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sophiejane
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Well I just don't belive your clinic ... As I am expecting twins as well I have been reading loads about twin pregnancies. For one it is certaily not uncommon for one twin to be miscarried or 'vanish', and the books say that the other baby will be absolutley fine if this happens. It still has a heartbeat, and thats fantastic. So it is congratulations and I am sure everything will be OK.
Be positive, and your embie will be a fighter.
Having morning sickness is also a fantastic sign as this means a strong pregnancy. Less than 95% chance means that you could have a 90% chance of carrying to terms. I'd put a £1000.00 on a 90 to 1 shot wouldn't you??????
Keep hanging on in there
From Sophie-J
Be positive, and your embie will be a fighter.
Having morning sickness is also a fantastic sign as this means a strong pregnancy. Less than 95% chance means that you could have a 90% chance of carrying to terms. I'd put a £1000.00 on a 90 to 1 shot wouldn't you??????
Keep hanging on in there
From Sophie-J
Me 33 dp 30
me tubal damage
ist ivf Feb04 -ive
fet July04 -ive
ivf Nov04 +ive twins, but sadly one twin died at 10 weeks gestation. Freya born 21st July 2005. She's amazing!
me tubal damage
ist ivf Feb04 -ive
fet July04 -ive
ivf Nov04 +ive twins, but sadly one twin died at 10 weeks gestation. Freya born 21st July 2005. She's amazing!
Elizabeth:
My ob said that once you hear the heartbeat you have a 95% chance of making it to delivery. Maybe your consultant just didn't say it right? Because it's fishy that our Dr.s used the same percentages and the same heartbeat story with opposite results.
Hang in there, and try to stay positive.
Paige
My ob said that once you hear the heartbeat you have a 95% chance of making it to delivery. Maybe your consultant just didn't say it right? Because it's fishy that our Dr.s used the same percentages and the same heartbeat story with opposite results.
Hang in there, and try to stay positive.
Paige
Paige and SophieJ,
Thanks for your posts, it is helping believe me. I share some of your outrage SophieJ with my clinic. When I pressed for a concrete reason for their reservation, they really couldn't give me one; just the same old stuff about miscarrying the one and the bleeding, blah, blah, blah. They could not link this concretely to the other embryo, really. I think they must make alot of allowances for themselves in case they are wrong-perhaps they have had some very sticky, emotional reactions from women in the past, I don't know.
What the Doctor was saying was that ordinarily one has a 95% chance of carrying to full term once a hearbeat is identified, just as yours, Paige, said. But since I also experienced a miscarriage, that percentage goes down a bit for me.
A few hours later I'm beginning to rally and feel better. In fact, I am feeling like there is no reason why I should feel down-and you made an excellent point SJ, about the 90% chance of carrying to full term. Even though we don't know the percentage really in my situation, it still looks good, either way.
Thanks for the continued support, it really means alot to me.
Elizabeth
Thanks for your posts, it is helping believe me. I share some of your outrage SophieJ with my clinic. When I pressed for a concrete reason for their reservation, they really couldn't give me one; just the same old stuff about miscarrying the one and the bleeding, blah, blah, blah. They could not link this concretely to the other embryo, really. I think they must make alot of allowances for themselves in case they are wrong-perhaps they have had some very sticky, emotional reactions from women in the past, I don't know.
What the Doctor was saying was that ordinarily one has a 95% chance of carrying to full term once a hearbeat is identified, just as yours, Paige, said. But since I also experienced a miscarriage, that percentage goes down a bit for me.
A few hours later I'm beginning to rally and feel better. In fact, I am feeling like there is no reason why I should feel down-and you made an excellent point SJ, about the 90% chance of carrying to full term. Even though we don't know the percentage really in my situation, it still looks good, either way.
Thanks for the continued support, it really means alot to me.
Elizabeth
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TanyaVincent-Tomlinson
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Congratulations, Elizabeth.... keep thinking positive thoughts, don't let yourself get wound up about the doctors. Right now you have a far more important job, and that is to look after you and your little baby.
I'll be thinking of you next week, at your scan.
Take care,
Tanya
I'll be thinking of you next week, at your scan.
Take care,
Tanya
NC-IVF in July 2004. BFP, looking forward to a little bouncing easter 2005 arrival!
me 30 yrs; DH 30 yrs
me 30 yrs; DH 30 yrs
Elizabeth - just popped on as have 4.5 month old twin girls to say how awful it must have been for you.
This IVF is such a rollercoaster - just look at my history on the bottom! What a load of old twaddle some clinics speak. You still have a 95% chance of going to term or having a baby should I say. They reckon that one in 6 pg's are twins it's just we know so early becuase of the scans. If one goes early at this stage it very rarely affects the other - it is just not meant to be as not a viable embryo for whatever reason. Some people lose them and don't even know! Fingers crossed anyway but sounds all fine with the other.
Thinking of you.....
Love
Tracey
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This IVF is such a rollercoaster - just look at my history on the bottom! What a load of old twaddle some clinics speak. You still have a 95% chance of going to term or having a baby should I say. They reckon that one in 6 pg's are twins it's just we know so early becuase of the scans. If one goes early at this stage it very rarely affects the other - it is just not meant to be as not a viable embryo for whatever reason. Some people lose them and don't even know! Fingers crossed anyway but sounds all fine with the other.
Thinking of you.....
Love
Tracey
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ttc 9 years. 38 yrs old, dh 8 hrs younger!First IVF in Aug 2002 and had ectopic.2nd IVF neg.3rd FET and negative.4th FET and positive but sadly lost our little boy at 20 weeks.5th FET and Alice Isobel and Emily Charlotte born 5th Aug 2004!
Thanks Tracey and Tanya for your messages. So far, everything is staying fine. I'm 9 weeks tomorow, and have a scan this wednesday. Last scan the baby was just fine. There was a blood clot under the sac, but this would not compromise the blood flow to the baby. As usual, my Doctor is so funny about these things. When I asked if there would be any problems, she said 'If you are asking me if there is a 100% guarantee of carrying to term, I can't give you that. (!!) I kept my temper in check and said in just as cold and rational way, 'I'm not expecting a guarantee, I would just like as much information as I can get' She then told me she is pretty sur ethe clot will just get absorbed into my body, worst case is that my body will try to expel the clot, creating cramps. Can you believe this? And up to this point I've had such good expereinces with this place. My husband has pointed out that they are protecting themselves, and tend to treat everyone as if they were all the same, i.e. as if we are all ready to pounce on them with accusations of incorrect information or something..anyway, except for continued morning sickness and lately, a kind of tightening, pulling or pressured sensation in one spot in my lower abdomen (anyone ever have this?) when I'm in certain positions, I feel fine.
Thanks again for all your input, it has kept me sane.
Seasons Greetings to you all. I'll be flying to New York x-mas day to see family and probably won't be checking the board until we get back early january.
Elizabeth
Thanks again for all your input, it has kept me sane.
Seasons Greetings to you all. I'll be flying to New York x-mas day to see family and probably won't be checking the board until we get back early january.
Elizabeth
