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hlloyd
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Post by hlloyd »

Angel, I am so sorry to read your post. How confusing for you. I will continue to keep my fingers crossed until Monday and really, really hope that the result is different....perhaps it is hereditory.

Take care of yourself....and try not to do too many HPTs over the weekend?

Best wishes
Heather
Me 39+4 DH 41
4th IVF May 06 - +ve
Natural conception Sep 07
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Paula
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Post by Paula »

Not sure Bel,

Right now I think it's almost time for me to throw in the towel. It's been almost a year with no luck in lowering my fsh. You can only go so long with constant disapointment. Month after month after month after month. Its like, maybe someone's trying to tell me something? Anyways, I think I need to start thinking realisticlly. Talked to DH tonight and had a bit of a cry then. I"m feeling ok again right now. Just kind of out there, if you know what I mean.

Anyways, I"ll sort it out. Thanks for your msg though :)
Take care of yourself
Huggs
Paula
Me 40 DH 46
1 Daughter 15
TTC 2 yrs
1st ivf Aug 05 - cancelled
Taking bc pills
Tiger
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Post by Tiger »

A quickie for Heather!!

Good Luck for tomorrow babe. Everyting firmly crossed for you.

Cheers, Tiger
Blocked tubes due to endometriosis.
hlloyd
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Post by hlloyd »

Thanks Tiger, HPT was BFN this morning and I am positive that AF will show her ugly mug today.

Paula, so sorry about your results, have you spoken to your doc about DHEA....it seems to be miracle stuff and might be worth a look.

Have a great Friday everyone.

Cheers
Heather
Me 39+4 DH 41
4th IVF May 06 - +ve
Natural conception Sep 07
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Paula
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Post by Paula »

Hi Heather,

Don't worry about yesterdays bfn, wait till today and good luck!!! Got everything crossed for you that the test was just to early to tell and that you'll get that BFP!! :)

ps. what's DHEA?

Huggs
Paula
Me 40 DH 46
1 Daughter 15
TTC 2 yrs
1st ivf Aug 05 - cancelled
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missmolly
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Post by missmolly »

Heather - I am sorry that your hpt was a bfn, but wait until you have your blood test done. Its not over yet. Did the clinic clarify how many frosties you have???

Hang in there
Missmolly
1st IVF 04/05 -ve
2nd IVF (FET) 06/05 -ve
FET July - cancelled as embryo did not survive
3rd IVF (stimulated cycle) - no embryos!
4th IVF 02/06 -ve
January 07 - went interstate to a new clinic and got BFP!!!!!!!
BelB
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Post by BelB »

Hey all,

Heather, you know how I feel about those bloody hpt's.. :evil: :evil: Stay away from them..They are notoriously inaccurate, the most definitive method of testing is via blood test at your clinic, so until that result is in as far as I'm concerned you are still open to go either way..Here's hoping for a fabulously fat BFP!!!

Paula, sounds like you're going through some thinking and soulsearching at the moment, glad that dh sounds supportive. You have been through a heap, I can understand the feeling of wanting to just let it all go. Whichever way you go you'll know that you tried really hard. I was always scared most of having regret that we hadn't at least given it a good go. I had friends (the fertile variety of course) that said "just let nature take it's course", and my personal favourite "if it's meant to be it will be"..Well that was never good enough for me. I wanted to know that I had explored the possibility of attaining a pregnancy via whaever means. You've certainly done that, I'm only sorry it hasn't had the outcome you have wished for thus far.

MissMolly, you must be in the mid twenty weeks by now are you? how is it all going?

Boo and I are keeping well, we are in full steam ahead planning for the first birthday party of the century which will be held in two weeks time. I am still undecided about the whole cake thang..Apparently I am a huge failure to all motherhood if I don't make a cake from the Women's Weekly birthday cake book..has anyone seen these cakes..they are frightening!!..I don't even do packet mixes very well!!!! :oops:

Have a good weekend to all
B
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hlloyd
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Post by hlloyd »

Thanks ladies, still no AF but still don't feel anything. BT is not until Monday but as today is 14 days post transfer I would have thought it is not too early for a HPT so I am really not expecting anything different.

Tiger, Tiger, Tiger....another weekend will be over before you know it and then there will be only one more to go!!! Yay!!! Hope the days pass quickly for you (but not for a quickly ageing me!)

How you doing Angel. I bet the days are passing slowly. Hang in there, try and organise lots of stuff to do over the weekend to take your mind of it (yeah, like that'll happen). :D

Belinda, wow Annies first birthday, how exciting. I say pick the easiest looking cake...one that is smothered in candy so if you bugger it up noone will be able to tell! Good luck.

MissMolly, thanks. I hope you haven't been working too much and have been getting some r&r in between shifts. It is only 9 weeks til Xmas I am told so it can't be long until your big holiday...yay!

Paula, DHEA is a male hormone that has been shown to have some great benefits for the more mature ovary. Try this link for some info on a study that a US clinic is doing.
http://www.centerforhumanreprod.com/pre ... aries.html
Unfortunately you cannot buy DHEA over the counter here but your GP may prescribe some for you if you can be really convincing. I think there is only one pharmacy in Sydney that can supply it also but if you need to know where, just let me know and I will track them down for you.

Cheers to everyone....have a great weekend.

Heather
Me 39+4 DH 41
4th IVF May 06 - +ve
Natural conception Sep 07
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Paula
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Post by Paula »

Oh Heather, you are an angel!! Thanks so much for that information. I'm off to my dr tomorrow to see if she'll prescribe it for me. If you could find out where to get it in Sydney that would be great :) I feel excited now :) Can you imagine if it works????

Ok, can't wait to hear from you.

ps. hoping and praying your blood tests prove that hpt wrong!!!

Huggs
Paula
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1 Daughter 15
TTC 2 yrs
1st ivf Aug 05 - cancelled
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hlloyd
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Post by hlloyd »

Hi Paula

This is a link to compounding chemists in Australia...there are actually tonnes of them in Sydney.

http://www.pccarx.com.au/Pharmacy.htm

The US clinic undertaking the study recommend 75mg daily taken as 50mg in AM and 25 mg in PM. They also suggest that DHEA peaks in its effects after at least 4 months so they recommend waiting 3-4 months before starting a cycle. Apparently the clinical trials have produced a lot of spontaneous pregnancies during this waiting period so they encourage tonnes of sex during this time. Following the DHEA women are placed on a microdose GnRH-agonist protocol, followed by stimulation with 600iu of gandotropins daily (split between split between FSH (450 IU) and hMG (150 IU). If patients are over 42, no pretreating with BCP if younger they do.

Are you seeing your gp or your fert doc? If seeing your fert doc, maybe he/she could contact the clinic doing the study for more info.

Hope this helps.

Have a great day.

Cheers
Heather
Me 39+4 DH 41
4th IVF May 06 - +ve
Natural conception Sep 07
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Tiger
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Post by Tiger »

Hi All.

Sat'day arvo. I hope we are all having a good one.

Angel and Heather... I've been thinking of you both all day. My mind is racing with "No af no af no af for Heather and Angel this weekend. BFP BFP BFP for Heather and Angel this Monday!! " PMA gals! even if you did see spotting this weekend - don't worry because I am with Bel on hpt, so PMA PMA PMA for BFP!!

Bel, Annie's b'day cake will turn out F-I-N-E, believe me; love is all the ingredient you need in these things remember :wink: :wink:. How many people have you invited to the party? I too have to bake a cake for my hubby on his birthday on the 8th next month; I might also do something from the mag's Cake Book, yea he would like that yay :lol:.

MissMolly, how are you keeping up? How many more weeks before your o/s trip? I am bit concerned about this bird-flu thing that is going on, I should really get my own box of tami-flu..... By the way do you have any more scarey stories you can share with us :shock: ??

Paula :!: , I know people can all wish you best of luck and try to cheer you up, but sometimes - other people's words just sound hollow, don't they? DHEA thing (Heather, you're a star!!) sounds like a possibility, let us know how you go at the doc's.

Take care all,
Cheers, Tiger

PS Heather - YES!! This time fortnight I will be over the pacific ocean, counting down by minutes to be back into arms of my husband!!!!!
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BelB
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Post by BelB »

Hi all,
Sunday morning in Bris-Vegas, the sun is shining and the grass is green (sounds silly, but everything has been so brown lately and the recent rain has turned things around!). Hope everyone is having a lovely weekend.

Tiger, thanks for your supportive somments re. the cake. I looked back through the cookbook again last night, I have decided on the "puff-puff dragon" cake. He is very cute, just one circular cake and two muffins for his eyes (I might even cheat and just cut and ice a pre-made cake). Looks like fun actually (you may have to remind me of this thought when I am in the thick of it and whinging about how hard the whole thing is!!). The birthday party is two weeks today, gosh I hope we have good weather for it!!..the good thing is though that it is a breakfast party so hopefully it will be well and truly over before the day starts getting too hot!
Not long now until you see your hubby Ms Tiger, you must be getting excited!

Heather, keep up that PMA my Qld buddy, I have been sending lots of babpositive baby type vibes up the coast to you so hopefully this will help. Do let us know as soon as you've tested won't you.

Paula, the product that Heather is talking about sounds interesting, would be keen to know what your clinic says and whether you can start on it ASAP. Do any of the overseas girls use this product do you know?

Well, hope everyone is enjoying their Sundays. Have a great week to all
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Post by Tiger »

Hello Bella-Bel,

Puff Puff Dragon sounds a treat - and lots of fun too - good luck! or should I say it in Japanese - Ganbatte!! You know I love that ready made icing stuff you can get at the supermarkets - I always use them when I bake a cake - it's very good.

This morning I woke up at 7:30am and the first thing I said to myself was... - "You're late for work!!!" ; so I raced up to my parents bedroom and I told (yelled?) them they were running late too, and I was rushing around like a blue-bottomed fly until I heard my dad mumble - "it's Sunday" ..... I honestly thought that this was Monday morning :shock: ?. This is my typical symptom of missing my hubby too much and I'm in a count down, Time is simply moving too slowly and I am starting to suffer hullicinations - again!!! yes.. :roll: .. this is not the first time I have done this. Last time it happened, I cancelled out entire week (of course it never did disappear) in my head..... How bizzare our brains work - or is it only mine???

Take care all,
Cheers, Tiger :lol:

PS Heather and Angel, PMA PMA PMA for BFP!!
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Post by BelB »

Hey Tiger,

I do this sort of thing ALL the time. This Saturday morning I woke up quite confused and said to Johnie; "is it Thursday, Friday or Saturday today". I honestly had no idea. I can understand you missing hubby, but then what's my excuse? (some say you lose half your brain with the placenta..maybe I've always been this way!?!?!)

Have a great week
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Deanne
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Post by Deanne »

Hi ladies,

Just wanted to pop in and say hello to you all. Sounds like lots has been happening!

Heather and Angel, all the very best for today - here's to BFPs for both of you!

Bel, Tiger, Josie, Paula, Miss Molly - a big hello to you guys too.

Bel, how exciting that you're planning Annie's first birthday party :) I'm sure you'll all have a ball.

Tiger I hope the days go by a bit quicker for you until you're with your hubby again. Sorry to hear your endo has been playing up. Have you ever had it surgically treated? I got an amazing amount of relief after my laparoscopy back in Jan 2004 - was completely pain free after it, and I'd had Stage IV endo. I know for other friends though surgery had limited success, so I guess it varies person to person. Hope your endo settles down soon though. It's such a bugger.

I'm doing well, nearly 23 weeks PG and getting bigger by the day ;) I can now finally feel the baby moving around and it's wonderful. He definitely has more active periods of the day (I'm calling it 'he' cos I have a feeling it's a boy, though we don't know - DH reckons it's a girl!). Usually after I've eaten and early in the morning are when I'm aware of the movements most. On Friday night we went out to a really noisy restaurant and bub was jumping all over the place! So it's true what they say about bubs being able to hear and respond to noise by this stage - pretty amazing stuff.

Anyway, love and hugs to you all. And extra special hugs today for Heather and Angel - hope to hear your good news soon.

Cheers
Deanne
Me 33 (endo), DH 32 ttc 2 years
1st IVF cycle June 05 +ve
Due 21st Feb 2006 :)
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